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December 25, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

MERRY CHRISTMAS!....Christmas is here and I'm signing off for the year now. I hope everyone has a nice holiday.

I'll be on vacation until shortly after New Year's. Steve Benen of The Carpetbagger Report will be guest blogging for me, and I may pop in occasionally myself depending on mood and availability of internet time. But probably not much. See you in 2008!

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Meow meow meow to you too, Kevin.

(Although to be fair, Cicero doesn't meow, he just sort of looks at you and bats at you face. He used to talk a lot (that's part of why he got the name), now he says nothing. This bodes ill for The Republic, I'm sure of it!)

And may the Trojans have something nice happen to them.

max
['Hrmm. Oh, yes, and a festive 'BUSH SUCKS!' right back atcha.']

Posted by: max on December 25, 2007 at 2:49 AM | PERMALINK

This is nearly the exact same post as last years

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_12/010450.php
. Could it be a coincidence? I doubt it. Happy New Year!

Posted by: Rodion on December 25, 2007 at 3:17 AM | PERMALINK

To Kevin and the rest of the Washington Monthly Community:

Please accept my wishes for a very Merry Christmas to you and yours. Glory to God in the Highest and Peace to His People on Earth! Goodwill to all men and cats! (Sorry, still feeling the aftereffects of Midnight Mass.);-)

Looking forward to all, hopefully good natured, arguments to come in 2008. With the Supreme Court hanging in the balance and the direction of U.S. foreign policy at stake, this Presidential election could be the most significant one in our lifetimes. I guess we are living out the Chinese wish of living in interesting times.

Posted by: Chicounsel on December 25, 2007 at 3:39 AM | PERMALINK

"Well, screw that. There’s nothing we can do to stop them anyway, so give ‘em the resources they want. Let ‘em fight the war the way they want. If it works — and after all, stranger things have happened — then I’ll eat some crow." - Kevin Drum, 2006

Are you hungry?

Posted by: brotio on December 25, 2007 at 4:14 AM | PERMALINK

Off topic?, or peace and love themed?

In the 2nd episode of "Michael Palin's New Europe" Michael Palin visits Istanbul and interviews a famous (and beautiful) belly-dance instructor. In the course of her talk about belly dance, she expresses the idea that belly dance is inseparable from feelings of peace and love. To belly dance is to feel all these things. Later, at the conclusion of the interview, Michael Palin asks her if she could teach George W. Bush to belly dance. (I think they both say "George Bush," but they both mean "George W. Bush.") Her expression clouds and she clearly finds this question quite a poser. Then she says, "George Bush to belly dance, this is like--Mission Impossible."

Posted by: Anon on December 25, 2007 at 5:58 AM | PERMALINK

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all, regardless of political affiliation!

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on December 25, 2007 at 7:52 AM | PERMALINK

I second Conservative Deflator! Speaking of deflation, just remember that soon, GWB will only have a year left and then it ticks down less and less after that (barring of course the oft speculated "national emergency" that allows him to take over etc, but I don't think he even cares anymore. I'm not so sure about Cheney ...) The B-43 will continue to bomb our nation and filling it with craters (many of them literal, if you know what happened in mining areas ...) and it will take who knows how many decades to undo even most of the damage, but at least we will be free of *him*. Of course, we'd better keep neocon fascist Rudi from getting in, or any of that crew. Don't be complacent during 2008 for one minute, everyone who cares must fight every inch of the way.

Posted by: Neil B. on December 25, 2007 at 8:58 AM | PERMALINK

Kevin, Thanks for politics with decency. It's a pleasure to come here and read something that really is fair and balanced.

Rest and repair--2008 is going to be a Coney Island Event.

Posted by: elr on December 25, 2007 at 9:06 AM | PERMALINK

Merry Christmas and may God bless us, everyone.

Posted by: trashhauler on December 25, 2007 at 9:10 AM | PERMALINK

best wishes

Here's hoping that the democratic candidates are stronger and smarter than they appear, the republican candidates are weaker than they appear, the average congressman is less corrupt than they appear.

Posted by: B on December 25, 2007 at 9:35 AM | PERMALINK

May all beings find comfort and joy.

Love the Inkblot ornament.

The internet gets awfully boring during the holidays for those of with no family. I discovered with Christmas, it doesn't matter how many friends you have, they always spend it with their family.

Posted by: Mazurka on December 25, 2007 at 11:22 AM | PERMALINK

Mazurka, move to NY ... I'm giving a Christmas Day dinner for four unrelated friends.

Besides, NYC features Christmas Eve as the great Jewish disco night at all the night clubs. The theory is that since all Christians spend Christmas Eve with their families, the only people you'll pick up at a disco on Christmas Eve are Jewish .... so now's your chance to go pick up a stranger who'd please your mother.

Posted by: Diana on December 25, 2007 at 11:34 AM | PERMALINK

Happy Christmas and Merry New Year to All! I hope the coming year brings happiness and joy to all persons and cats (oh, and dogs, too). I also hope it brings us the wisdom and fortitude to bring about the change our once-great country needs.

I've moved from Chicago to Santa Fe a few months ago. It's a little strange moving from a solid Blue State to a Purple one, but at least I'll now see political advertisements during the election.

Posted by: phoebes on December 25, 2007 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

Happy Festivus to all.

Posted by: Mike on December 25, 2007 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.

Posted by: dr sardonicus on December 25, 2007 at 1:31 PM | PERMALINK

Happy Holidays, Kevin! And to all the readers, posters and lurkers on this blog!


Posted by: troglodyle on December 25, 2007 at 1:40 PM | PERMALINK

Merry Christmas, everyone! I hope your lives fill up with peace and happiness from here on out.

Posted by: ferd on December 25, 2007 at 2:02 PM | PERMALINK

In episode 5 of "Michael Palin's New Europe," we get an extended tour of the museum of torture in Vilnius, Lithuania, where the Soviets did their torture work. We see one of the small cells which were nothing but pools of freezing water, and victims would stand on the floor or on a tiny round disk standing in the middle of the floor. For five days, a victim would try not to die. If you fell asleep, you fell off the disk. Victims would try to move, try to jog, would finally curl up against a blood-stained corner.

Perhaps this is one of George W. Bush's exciting enhanced interrogation methods. U-S-A!! U-S-A!!

The obscenity of Bush....

Posted by: Anon on December 25, 2007 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

Sadly, our kitty, Buddy, went to the Great Beyond yesterday. Christmas morning was a bit sad without him. His brother, Max, did a good job entertaining us by attacking the discarded giftwrap, and hiding among the presents still left under the tree.

Merry Christmas, Kevin, and best wishes for the new year.

Posted by: pol on December 25, 2007 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks to all the liberals for ruining Christmas sales. As for the animal worship on your ornament,
you may be a closet hindoo.

Posted by: al on December 25, 2007 at 7:41 PM | PERMALINK

So, completely off subject, but according to a well known blogger, you, Mr. Drum, should be having yourself a heaping dish of a certain kind of bird this year. After all, you promised you would have some, about a year ago... to wit:

"Still, honesty compels me to say that I’m glad this is going to happen. I know this makes me a bad person with no concern for human life etc. etc. (feel free to expand on this sentiment in comments), but at some point we have to come to a conclusion on this stuff. Conservatives long ago convinced themselves against all evidence that we could have won in Vietnam if we’d only added more troops or used more napalm or nuked Hanoi or whatever, and they’re going to do the same thing in Iraq unless we allow them to play this out the way they want. If they don’t get to play the game their way, they’ll spend the next couple of decades trying to persuade the American public that there was nothing wrong with the idea of invading Iraq at all. We just never put the necessary resources into it.

"Well, screw that. There’s nothing we can do to stop them anyway, so give ‘em the resources they want. Let ‘em fight the war the way they want. If it works — and after all, stranger things have happened — then I’ll eat some crow. But if it doesn’t, there’s a chance that the country will actually learn something from this."

Well? Just wondering. I mean... we HAVE learned something, haven't we? Like, maybe, if the resources WERE given, and if maybe, just maybe, a certain mind set wasn't promoted day in and day out on the home front, we MIGHT have turned things around in Vietnam. Of course, we'll never really know, will we? Because back then, it was the conservative side that got worn down and eventually folded, thinking, hell, let the liberals have their way. Once they see the horror that rears its ugly head after we leave (boat people, killing fields, etc.), they'll learn that there are times when we HAVE to make a stand when we commit our troops to a cause.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: Brian on December 25, 2007 at 8:18 PM | PERMALINK

God bless us, every one:

Good and Evil at the Center of the Earth: A Quechua Christmas Carol
By Greg Palast
.

Posted by: Poilu on December 25, 2007 at 10:47 PM | PERMALINK

When will "Conservatives" finally GROW UP and realize that Vietnam -- like Afghanistan and Iraq today -- was never meant to be "won", only to be held and fought in virtual perpetuity, strictly for the financial gain of the Military Industrial Complex?

Peace is anathema to the power elite and its corporate war machine!

Brian: You need to become much better acquainted with a little history before spouting off such wishful nonsense concerning developments like the "Killing Fields". It was Nixon's secret bombing of Cambodia, while US troops were still present in force in Vietnam, that largely propelled the Khmer Rouge's ascendancy to power.

Had "we" NOT left Vietnam, the legitimate government of that country would never have been able to intervene militarily in Cambodia, thereby restoring stability by ousting the Khmer Rouge.

And how did the US government react to that sudden outbreak of peace in Kampuchea? Why, it subsequently backed Pol Pot's murderous regime in exile, covertly financing its guerrillas in a spiteful effort to thwart the Vitnamese Communists, who'd saved the day for Cambodia's people by finally ending that long reign of terror.
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Posted by: Poilu on December 26, 2007 at 12:15 AM | PERMALINK

Thanks to all the liberals for ruining Christmas sales. ...

Credit where credit's due, Al! Any "thanks" in order are owed primarily to the trickle-down Fascists in this White House, for making such widespread destitution possible.

You can't have a "consumer-based economy" when consumers have largely been eradicated by government "fiscal policy".

Oh, and "Bah, humbug!" to you too.
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Posted by: Poilu on December 26, 2007 at 12:32 AM | PERMALINK

INKBLOT FOR PRESIDENT '08, not ornament!

Posted by: opitcal weenie on December 26, 2007 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK
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