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January 23, 2008
By: Kevin Drum

RE-DE-BAATHIFICATION....Remember that new law the Iraqi parliament passed a couple of weeks ago that supposedly advanced the cause of reconciliation by allowing Sunni ex-Baathists back into the government? Sounds like we shouldn't be counting on huzzahs from the Sunni population any time soon.

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The only Baathification I care for is the one that bathes Washington as they place king george and the boys under some jail. How come nobody wanna impeach and jail these criminals?

Posted by: dennis d' menace on January 23, 2008 at 2:16 AM | PERMALINK

Please excuse me for being so off topic. Some how they are connected you know.

Posted by: dennis d' menace on January 23, 2008 at 2:27 AM | PERMALINK

"Put this under the category of: Be careful what you wish for," Chalabi said.

Payback's a bitch. Unfortunately for everyone it's Chalabi's bitch.

Posted by: has407 on January 23, 2008 at 2:41 AM | PERMALINK

Sounds like we need to send them some more AEI interns.

"There is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept." - Ansel Adams

Posted by: daCascadian on January 23, 2008 at 2:51 AM | PERMALINK

Remember how Condi -- after making an unexpected departure from the Saudis to Iraq -- was busy putting a happy face on the law? "Both Shiites and Sunnis [concurred] that the new law [was] worse than the old version that sparked the insurgency." Condi unrealistic optimism should have been a tell.

Posted by: Apollo 13 on January 23, 2008 at 3:20 AM | PERMALINK

This one is just too sad. Yahoo frontpage for now.

Study: Bush, officials made 935 false statements about Iraq

By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.


Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al-Qaida, the study found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaida.

Posted by: mario on January 23, 2008 at 3:25 AM | PERMALINK

mighty mumbling mohammed! What a hole we've dug ourselves.

Be a good little bathist and march yourself down to the nearest Shiite militia for registration. They'll give you a personalized tattoo and a gift pack of plastic wrap, duct tape, and rope. Then go to the soccer stadium and a friendly team from Nasriye will assist you in meeting your future employer.

Posted by: B on January 23, 2008 at 8:18 AM | PERMALINK

Ah, Kevin.

The law hasn't even been implemented yet. To my mind, not one Baathsit has been purged under this law. I know you liberals are itching to celebrate failure, but Why don't we wait to see how this unfolds, eh?

Oh, and I could probably come up with 935 lies of Nancy Pelosi alone if you gave me an hour.

Posted by: egbert on January 23, 2008 at 8:21 AM | PERMALINK

The default mode when digesting ANY information regarding this war, this administration or the Republican Party is to assume what you're taking in is a lie. The truth doesn't come out even when self evident, helpful or innocuous. I remember growing up and knowing neighborhood riff-raff or eccentric schoolmates seemingly incapable of telling any story without unnecessarily embellishing it to the point of comic ridiculousness. Behind their backs everyone viewed them as oddly pathetic. They must all be working now for Bush.

Posted by: steve duncan on January 23, 2008 at 8:27 AM | PERMALINK

Question. If we had spent 1.5 trillion dollars on our own infrastructure, etc., rather than in Iraqistan,wouldn't our economy be healthier?

The debacle in the desert becomes ever more obtuse.

I'd like to see all Repugnacans banned from government in this country.

The De-Repugnacanization of America. Oh yeah, the demoncrats aren't much better!

The average Joe in America could care less about Bath this Bath that in Iraq.

Time to heal our own country. Nothing we do in Iraq will have lasting value except to those who have gotten filthy rich off of our perpetuawar.

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on January 23, 2008 at 9:12 AM | PERMALINK

Oh, and I could probably come up with 935 lies of Nancy Pelosi alone if you gave me an hour.
Posted by: egbert

Lies, troll? Finally, you come clean...

Posted by: DJ on January 23, 2008 at 9:33 AM | PERMALINK

935 False Statements On Iraq

Worst. President. Ever.

Posted by: haha on January 23, 2008 at 10:14 AM | PERMALINK

Oh, and I could probably come up with 935 lies of Nancy Pelosi alone if you gave me an hour.
Posted by: egbert on January 23, 2008 at 8:21 AM

it's been over an hour--where are they?

Another dumbass troll comes up short.

Posted by: haha on January 23, 2008 at 10:17 AM | PERMALINK

This new law just means that secular Sunnis will never get to run Iraq, and only religious Shiites will. Which is a great victory for...for...um, Iran?

Posted by: Speed on January 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM | PERMALINK

so much for the success of the surge

Posted by: dj spellchecka on January 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM | PERMALINK

haha,

it's been over an hour--where are they?

Good one. Playing with words is fun:

I could win the Boston Marathon (if I was young, in incredible shape, and born with a different body)

I could travel to Mars (if we had the cheap, convenient space travel I was promised in the SF of my youth.)

Posted by: Tripp on January 23, 2008 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK

Tom Nicholson:
If we had spent 1.5 trillion dollars on our own infrastructure, etc., rather than in Iraqistan,wouldn't our economy be healthier?

What's even worse is that we used that money to carry out an invasion that resulted in the destruction of billions of dollars worth of Iraq's infrastructure, thus redoubling our effectiveness at wasting assets. Not surprising that war results in more loss than gain, but I think even the most pessimistic have been a bit surprised at the magnitude of waste in what was supposed to be a cherry-pick. That accomplishment required unparalleled incompetence in government.

Posted by: cowalker on January 23, 2008 at 11:57 AM | PERMALINK

It seems like the Iraqis finally have the democracy they deserve. What kind of mortgage rates are they getting, BTW?

I'm glad they have universal health care though.

Posted by: bobbywally on January 23, 2008 at 12:24 PM | PERMALINK

The money spent in Iraq is based on lies,lies,lies....

http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/

God bless the USA!!

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on January 23, 2008 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

There is 'war' in how many African and Asian countries : and a mess in Israel that echoes the oppression of Jews by Germany when it comes to treatment of Palestinians. Most people don't even realize they are a diverse crew too - and include Christians - as does Iraq.
Is anyone ready to take Tom Engelhardt's Tom Dispatch seriously yet ? And the proposition that the Bush Administration's real policy has been available all the time : as a PNAC idea echoed in the "War Game" Post-Saddam Iraq
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB207/index.htm

Posted by: opit on January 23, 2008 at 1:42 PM | PERMALINK

Question. If we had spent 1.5 trillion dollars on our own infrastructure, etc., rather than in Iraqistan,wouldn't our economy be healthier? -Tom Nicholson

Yes our economy would be healthier *overall*. However, the George W. Bush administration would have been deprived of the opportunity to throw their primary constituency (Southern working class social conservatives) nice juicy steaks with those defense dollars. This defense stimulus combined with the housing bubble distracted everybody from the exportation of the high-tech non-defense sector of the economy. The New American Empire was supposed to make up for those losses and it has failed. A few have gotten mightily rich and parachuted away, while the rest of us are left holding the bag.

Posted by: Doc at the Radar Station on January 23, 2008 at 9:45 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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