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February 9, 2008
By: Kevin Drum

ELECTION MADNESS....Wait a second. There are more elections today? Oh jeez.....

Kevin Drum 12:27 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (16)

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McCain should select Frist as his veep. Just sayin'.

Posted by: piehole on February 9, 2008 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin: i think you should go back to supporting Hillary. Atrios busted you for your pre war stance. Probably an Obama man. See how easy it is for them when they have little else to offer.

Posted by: fillphil on February 9, 2008 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

Well, uh, yeah--isn't that what we said we wanted? Not having a few thousand Iowans and New Hampshireans pick the candidates for the rest of the country? Today is the first time I'll be voting in the Washington State caucus, and not coincidentally the first time Washington's caucus votes will have any influence whatsoever on the process. Get back to your delegate-toting-up, Kevin--math is power!

Posted by: antiflimflammatory on February 9, 2008 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

It will be interesting to see if all the DC pundits' coverage of the race changes after they all go out and vote for Obama. As I'm pretty sure most of them will. (No snark here, just making an observation.)

Posted by: lampwick on February 9, 2008 at 12:58 PM | PERMALINK

There are more elections today? Oh jeez.....

Hang in there until March 12, Kevin. When you wake up that morning, it'll be the proverbial - and literal - 40 days and 40 nights until the eve of the next primary or caucus.

Posted by: low-tech cyclist on February 9, 2008 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK

"Oh jeez"? What is this, Fargo? North Dakota primary's over, dude.

Posted by: mrsaturdaypants on February 9, 2008 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK

I just got back from TRYING to attend the Democratic Party caucus for Sarpy County (Nebraska) Democrats.

I say trying, because the traffic on Highway 370 (two lanes westbound) was backed up literally three full miles (from 108th Street, Highway 370, to Shadow Lake Shopping Center at 78th Street and Hwy 370), bumper-to-bumper. And I suspect the parking lot at the site of the caucus (Papillion-La Vista South HS) was already packed!

Bearing in mind Sarpy County is a very Republican county (thanks to the presence of Offutt AFB), this is amazing (and doesn't bode well for Republicans)!

Posted by: Zoomie on February 9, 2008 at 2:32 PM | PERMALINK


Hallelujah! If Nebraska Democrats are that fired up, we are going to beat John McCain like a rented mule in November!


Posted by: Digger O'Dell on February 9, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

I'm about to leave for our Democratic caucus here in Seattle. Thankfully it's not raining hard, so I can walk (only about ten minutes on foot). Obama drew 20,000 yesterday to his rally at Key Arena (which holds only 17,000). Riot police had to be called for crowd control because people continued to try to get inside after the arena was already full. In comparison, Hillary drew about 5,000 the night before.

Posted by: mfw13 on February 9, 2008 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

Just got back from a Seattle-area caucus. In precinct that I suppose you could describe as upper middle class, made up mostly of people in their 30's to 50's and only a few that looked to be in their teens or twenties, Obama had around 85% of the vote on the first round. I had to leave before the second round, but Hillary would have had to pick up another 20+ votes in order to get a second delegate. Huge turnout.

Posted by: bobb on February 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM | PERMALINK

I also just got back from my caucus in an upper-middle class Seattle suburb. Turnout was also huge (3-4 times 2004 turnout). Final vote in our precinct was 76-17 Obama (6-1 in delegates), with four people changing from Hillary to Obama after the speeches.

Posted by: mfw13 on February 9, 2008 at 5:42 PM | PERMALINK

Huckleberry wins Kansas in a landslide. I'm sure it helped to have the support of Fred Phelps and his entire in-bred family in Topeka!

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on February 9, 2008 at 5:59 PM | PERMALINK

Plenty more of that:


We're looking at results in the 3:1 range in Seattle. I would expect something similar in Tacoma. Look for results from places like Everett to the north (much more white working class), Vancouver to the South (right on the OR border) and Spokane and rural areas in Eastern WA.

Posted by: Colin on February 9, 2008 at 7:29 PM | PERMALINK

Our precinct in Vancouver, WA broke for Obama 5-1. We live in a pretty liberal part of town (downtown Vancouver, in some ways a bedroom community from Portland, OR), but Vancouver is definitely a more blue-collar town than Seattle.

Posted by: antiflimflammatory on February 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM | PERMALINK



It's not just us latte liberals.

Posted by: Colin on February 9, 2008 at 7:54 PM | PERMALINK

This article is probably too old for people to notice a reply, but here goes anyway.

Super-delegates from Washington who have declared their support for Hillary need to be challenged on that decision, now that the decision is so clearly out of line with the wishes of the Democratic voters they represent. Here's one list:


I'm going to contact all of them. I hope others will too. I haven't written an actual paper letter to a congress person since I was in grade school many decades ago. But in case an actual paper letter might carry more weight than an e-mail, I'm going to do that for at least the ones who might be wanting my vote in the future. If they're not willing to represent my wishes and the overwhelming wishes of Democratic voters in this state on something as important as this, why should I give them my support?

Posted by: bobb on February 10, 2008 at 10:28 PM | PERMALINK



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