March 14, 2008
WATCHING THE WATCHMEN....In practice, I don't know how effective the Intelligence Oversight Board has been over the years. But I guess the answer is, a little too effective for President Bush's taste:
Almost 32 years to the day after President Ford created an independent Intelligence Oversight Board made up of private citizens with top-level clearances to ferret out illegal spying activities, President Bush issued an executive order that stripped the board of much of its authority.
...."It's quite clear that the Bush administration officials who were around in the 1970s are settling old scores now," said Tim Sparapani, senior legislative counsel to the American Civil Liberties Union. "Here they are even preventing oversight within the executive branch. They have closed the books on the post-Watergate era."
....Under the old rules, whenever the oversight board learned of intelligence activity that it believed might be "unlawful or contrary to executive order," it had a duty to notify both the president and the attorney general. But Bush's order deleted the board's authority to refer matters to the Justice Department for a criminal investigation....Bush's order also terminated the board's authority to oversee each intelligence agency's general counsel and inspector general, and it erased a requirement that each inspector general file a report with the board every three months.
All part of the final year cleanup before Bush retires to Crawford, I suppose.
—Kevin Drum 1:52 PM
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Not that referring anything to this DOJ would matter anyway.
Posted by: John on March 14, 2008 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK
Not that this was the point of your post, but Bush ain't retiring to Crawford. I'll be surprised if he ever sets foot on that "ranch" again after January.
Posted by: shortstop on March 14, 2008 at 2:06 PM | PERMALINK
So just what function does the Intelligence Oversight Board now perform? To exclusively let the President know that illegal spying is taking place? Very effective, I'm sure.
Posted by: Billy Paulson on March 14, 2008 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK
Kevin -- you keep forgetting. Bush isn't going back to Crawford; he's retiring to Paraguay to escape trial as a war criminal. Just like many Nazis did and escaped extradition after WWII.
I accept your apology.
Posted by: wileycat on March 14, 2008 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK
O.K. This is off-topic, but it's 1 p.m. central time and it's been a bad week. Where's Domino and Inkblot?
Posted by: gloria on March 14, 2008 at 2:13 PM | PERMALINK
What gloria said. We need cats.
Posted by: thersites on March 14, 2008 at 2:15 PM | PERMALINK
Even after 7+ years I'm still unsure -- Is W Cheney's errand boy in issuing this order, or what? Cheney wants to go all 'Unitary Executive' for the benefit of Hillarack and hir successors.
W always seemed more like the "My way or the highway" kind of guy, concerned only about America after 1/20/09 only regarding his legacy (to be determined about 250 years out, it seems), and the reduced tax and regulatory burdens for his true constituents.
Is there any evidence that W cares that much about the non-W stuff of Presidenting?
Posted by: MaryCh on March 14, 2008 at 2:16 PM | PERMALINK
He can't sit back and let the nattering nabobs of negativism destroy his legacy.
Posted by: AJ on March 14, 2008 at 2:21 PM | PERMALINK
Fortunately, this is just an Executive Order, and can be undone by another Executive Order in 312 days.
I'm only worried about Bush doing stuff that the next President can't undo by fiat. Judicial appointments, telecom immunity, regulatory agency appointments whose term doesn't expire with the change of Administration, destruction of records, stuff like that.
Posted by: low-tech cyclist on March 14, 2008 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK
"Fortunately, this is just an Executive Order, and can be undone by another Executive Order in 312 days." (low-tech cyclist)
My countdown clock says 311 days. Is it being overoptimistic? Or did a surrender in Iraq-liberal reprogram it?
Posted by: wileycat on March 14, 2008 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK
What shortstop said:
Not that this was the point of your post, but Bush ain't retiring to Crawford. I'll be surprised if he ever sets foot on that "ranch" again after January.
Posted by: ed on March 14, 2008 at 2:43 PM | PERMALINK
before Bush retires to Crawford
I predict the prop ranch will be sold within 24 hours of his retirement.
Posted by: Brautigan on March 14, 2008 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK
The Constitution is just a go--am piece of paper!
Hail to the chief Executive Intelligencer.
The economic downward spiral is Bush's legacy.
How on earth do we dig ourselves out?
The dollar seems to be blackholing.
Amen to dis-intelligencing our branches of government.
Posted by: Tom Nicholson on March 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM | PERMALINK
I'm sure the Dems will love the new freedom to wiretap Repugs - with all new Repug anti-laws.
Posted by: me-again on March 14, 2008 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK
Oops. I see shortstop and wileycat beat me to it. Damn you both! :-D
Posted by: MeLoseBrain? on March 14, 2008 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK
All part of the final year cleanup before Bush retires to Crawford, I suppose.
And it can't happen soon enough. What a relief it will be to never again be subjected to the smirks and posturing of that overpriviledged egomaniac.
Posted by: Del Capslock on March 14, 2008 at 4:15 PM | PERMALINK
Even after 7+ years I'm still unsure -- Is W Cheney's errand boy in issuing this order, or what? Cheney wants to go all 'Unitary Executive' for the benefit of Hillarack and hir successors.
The answer to your question will have to wait until the damage done by Bush/Cheney - Cheney/Bush has collapsed the USA, broken it up into smaller countries, and economic development and social development reaches a point at which there can be historians and archaeologists studying the ruins of the former USA to make a determination.
It's coming. Count on it.
Posted by: Praedor Atrebates on March 14, 2008 at 4:18 PM | PERMALINK
Hear, hear. Is he just trying to further reduce the odds of impeachment?
This certainly is of a piece with making it a top priority to try to shut down surveillance suits by giving retroactive amnesty to telcos.
Posted by: Crust on March 14, 2008 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK
The OIB did a great job in deleting terabytes of data from AD.
Posted by: Jet on March 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM | PERMALINK
Cheney/Bush has collapsed the USA, broken it up into smaller countries" Posted by: Praedor Atrebates on March 14, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Ohhhhhh, that explains the resurgence of The South Will Rise Again.
Posted by: Stuck in AL on March 14, 2008 at 7:04 PM | PERMALINK
The south wont rise again because its full of northerners escaping the rust belt they created.
Posted by: Jet on March 14, 2008 at 8:02 PM | PERMALINK
With this administration, it's been the Intelligence Overboard Sight.
Posted by: josef on March 14, 2008 at 11:30 PM | PERMALINK
Is this site the only commentary-related entity in the US that isn't addressing Pastor Wright's pulpit exclamations? You marginalize yourselves when you ignore the obvious. On the other hand--big surprise.
Posted by: Billy Bob Schranzberg on March 15, 2008 at 1:12 AM | PERMALINK
Billy Bob:
Why does Barack Obama have to answer for what his pastor says? How retarded is that? What's next, having to answer for what your barber or the guy who shines your shoes says? You conservatives are so pathetic.
If you do have to answer for your spiritual adviser says, then when is John McCain going to apologize for what this creep Rod Parsley says ? He is McCain’s “spiritual adviser” and he is advocating the mass murder of Muslims! When is McCain going to apologize for this scumbag’s hate speech? Huh?
Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on March 15, 2008 at 10:16 AM | PERMALINK
It's not a ranch. It's a ranchette.
Posted by: Basher on March 15, 2008 at 10:44 AM | PERMALINK
Why does Barack Obama have to answer for what his pastor says?
Posted by: The Conservative Deflator
It could be because BHO wrote book and made speeches crediting this guy as being his spiritual mentor and inspiration. When BHO sat in the pew for the last twenty years. It would be nice to know which part of Wright's racist spewings he listened to and never denounced until called on it.
BHO has gotten a pass on most of this stuff and you lefties whine when some body finally calls him on it. I love it!
Posted by: Fat White Guy on March 15, 2008 at 11:39 AM | PERMALINK
Fat White Guy at 11:39 AM: "BHO has gotten a pass on most of this stuff and you lefties whine when some body finally calls him on it. I love it!"
Who the hell is BHO, dear heart? And which "lefties" were "whining" in this thread and when, specifically? And what does this have to do with Bush Boy's erasing accountability for himself and all his criminal friends? What was the title and body of the original post again? Oh, yeah: Bush does some rear guard grunt duty in order to scorch his and his pal's many, odiferous trails. Oh, and I'll tell you what else, sweetums, when you're a black man in a massively racist society, then and only then can you spew about "racist" language. But, really, you're just too cute to take seriously. Seriously!
Posted by: Conrad's Ghost on March 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK
Who the hell is BHO, dear heart? And which "lefties" were "whining" in this thread and when, specifically?
Posted by: Conrad's Ghost
If you actually read my post you would have seen that it was Conservative Deflater. Also for those slow on the uptake BHO is Barack Hussien Obama. Also,if your were paying attention I was responding to a specific post.
Sweetums there is a differnce between spewing about racist comments and actually spewing racist drivel which is what Wright has done. So pay attention. Get a grip on life. Blacks are just as racist as any other group. Being a minority does not give you a free pass to be a racist except in liberal lefty world or some other alternate universe.
Posted by: Fat White Guy on March 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK
"I was pleased to have the endorsement of pastor John Hagee yesterday."
Posted by: John McCain 2/27/08 on March 15, 2008 at 5:33 PM | PERMALINK