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May 3, 2008
By: Kevin Drum

A CONTEST....Let's have a contest. As we all know, Hillary Clinton chose filly Eight Belles to win the Kentucky Derby today. Instead, EB came in second and then had to be euthanized after breaking both ankles right after crossing the finish line. So here's the contest: Who do you think will be the first pundit/columnist/talking head to use this as an idiotically extended metaphor for the state of Hillary Clinton's campaign? Matthews? Dowd? Jonah Goldberg?

Or has someone already done it?

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It's already on Halperin's The Page

Posted by: Fenway Wrigley on May 3, 2008 at 8:53 PM | PERMALINK

I'll confess, my first thought when I heard the news was that the story seems to be tailor-made for a Daily Show clip.

Posted by: danimal on May 3, 2008 at 8:56 PM | PERMALINK

and coming up hard on the rails... it's the washington monthly!

Posted by: billy on May 3, 2008 at 8:58 PM | PERMALINK

Um... you?

Posted by: adam on May 3, 2008 at 9:03 PM | PERMALINK

First I've heard of it.

Posted by: wilder on May 3, 2008 at 9:05 PM | PERMALINK

But Hillary's ankles are famous in wingnuttia for being thick and strong, (Do a web search.)

Posted by: Rich McAllister on May 3, 2008 at 9:07 PM | PERMALINK

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/resist-urge-by-digby-i-realize-that-lot.html

It would be Digby...not hyping but putting the idea on the table.

Posted by: Richard on May 3, 2008 at 9:07 PM | PERMALINK


The wits (so to speak) at TotalFark, apparently.

Posted by: Kurt Montandon on May 3, 2008 at 9:14 PM | PERMALINK

I'm a bit surprised no one has noted Clinton's filly not only was euthanized, but lost to Big Brown...although using that as an allegory just reeks of political incorrectness.

Posted by: Vincent on May 3, 2008 at 9:15 PM | PERMALINK

Digby most certainly wasn't the first. Several diaries on kos has already gone there.

And Kevin, saying "who will say this first" doesn't mean you didn't actually say it ;)

Posted by: Mike in Denmark on May 3, 2008 at 9:15 PM | PERMALINK

I think if we're including joking about it, then include yourself Kevin. The "extended" part you mention, I think, only kicks in when someone mentions that the winner was ... Big Brown.

Posted by: john on May 3, 2008 at 9:19 PM | PERMALINK

OK, like a quiz.

I guess you!

Posted by: Matt on May 3, 2008 at 9:25 PM | PERMALINK

But it's such a good idiotic extended metaphor. Let us have our fun, Kevin.

Posted by: Jason on May 3, 2008 at 9:25 PM | PERMALINK

OK. WHY do you have to kill the animal for broken ankles? It seems monstrous and absurd.

Posted by: Ty Lookwell on May 3, 2008 at 9:37 PM | PERMALINK

Or has someone already done it?

Old joke. IIRC that would be National Lampoon (or Monty Python?) on Princess Margaret having to be euthanized after breaking a fingernail on the infield at Ascot.

Posted by: has407 on May 3, 2008 at 9:37 PM | PERMALINK

Or maybe it was SNL. Memory fades...

Posted by: has407 on May 3, 2008 at 9:46 PM | PERMALINK

Unfortunately, Ty Lookwell, horses have a terrible time healing from even one broken leg (or ankle), never mind two. They have delicate immune systems that make them extremely vulnerable to infection even in the best of times, and they die if they can't stand up. Most likely they simply realized that she would never make it no matter what they did, and elected to spare her unnecessary suffering. The increased weight on her back legs would have caused all sorts of further problems, and they just don't heal well when they can't walk.

It is a terrible thing to euthanize a horse like this, but sadly (and I had horses growing up) it's sometimes infinitely better than watching them suffer as they try to recover. She's an invaluable horse and I guarantee you that they didn't just decide she wasn't worth trying to help.

Posted by: Wally on May 3, 2008 at 9:59 PM | PERMALINK

Why would it be an "idiotically extended metaphor"? It looks for all the world like Eight Belles did it on purpose, just for laughs.

Posted by: Grumpy on May 3, 2008 at 10:00 PM | PERMALINK

Wally -
thanks for the thorough and thoughtful reply.

Posted by: Ty Lookwell on May 3, 2008 at 10:06 PM | PERMALINK

Not to make light of the death of the poor animal, but this is exactly the kind of silly thing that political reporters love to latch onto as a "metaphor" in lieu of discussing substance. God help you if you're a struggling candidate and there's a flat tire somewhere in your motorcade.

Of course, Clinton was pretty shameless and predictable in playing the "betting on the filly" card. She bet on the wrong horse, as it were.

Posted by: Hyde on May 3, 2008 at 10:11 PM | PERMALINK

There goes tomorrow's photo-op!

Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton on May 3, 2008 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, what drives the story forward is the name of the winning horse. That's what makes the metaphor so stunning.

Posted by: koreyel on May 3, 2008 at 10:18 PM | PERMALINK

"It looks for all the world like Eight Belles did it on purpose, just for laughs."

Or is it part of a vast right-wing conspiracy?

Posted by: Ross Best on May 3, 2008 at 10:19 PM | PERMALINK

I wouldn't think it would happen- rather they'd avoid it on purpose- because they'd think that doing it would undermine their credibilty my making them look too crass and classless. The metaphor is a graphic, excessive one that could easily rub people the wrong way and have them tuning out a columnist / personality permanently.

But, if a lot of liberals like me are saying something like what I just wrote (and if what I wrote is an accurate guess), then the conservatives always have the motivation to "play against expectations" and revise their plan to make acute liberals feel like we don't know how to play against them.

Often, but not always, with these conservatives these strategic plays come down to the psychology, not the strategy. Their personalities are frequently a lot more psychological than they are rational, despite conservatives' associating themselves with the raional-male stereotype- these people just don't know their own face.

Posted by: Swan on May 3, 2008 at 10:20 PM | PERMALINK

"it would undermine their credibilty my making them look too crass and classless."

Oops, should be "by making them look too crass and classless."

Posted by: Swan on May 3, 2008 at 10:22 PM | PERMALINK

Instead of talking about it openly, the conservatives would, I think, promote the story obliquely.

Posted by: Swan on May 3, 2008 at 10:24 PM | PERMALINK

Scarborough called it Friday morning on Morning Joe

Posted by: john on May 3, 2008 at 10:27 PM | PERMALINK

Scarborough will say it Monday morning and later claim it was a joke.
The right wing media will leave it alone,it would look unserious. They're always serious.

Posted by: TJM on May 3, 2008 at 10:32 PM | PERMALINK

Wonkette had ya beat by a good hour, Manwich:

http://wonkette.com/386888/#viewcomments

Posted by: Doug on May 3, 2008 at 10:32 PM | PERMALINK

Wonkette had ya beat by a good hour, Manwich:

http://wonkette.com/386888/#viewcomments

Posted by: Doug on May 3, 2008 at 10:32 PM | PERMALINK

Shouldn't Hillary consider this as an omen, a not very subtle warning from the gods? It's time to get out of the race, girl.

Posted by: BNB on May 3, 2008 at 10:36 PM | PERMALINK

It is monstrous -- my daughter's riding instructor says this is pretty much unheard of in England -- we run them too young in this country.

Posted by: jerry on May 3, 2008 at 10:50 PM | PERMALINK

You won't believe this...someone's already ravelled out the metaphor on Daily Kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/3/22543/77918/903/508616

Posted by: Asp on May 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM | PERMALINK

Wally, I think that's a horrible thing to say about Hillary Clinton. Outraged, i tell you.

Posted by: absent observer on May 3, 2008 at 11:04 PM | PERMALINK

Why is it an "idiotically extended metaphor"? How about calling it an "obvious metaphor"?

This example, this comparison, this metaphor is no different than all of the many devices used by the best-quality political cartoonists.

However loathesome and stupid people like Matthews may be, that doesn't mean that comparing Hillary's campaign to a euthanized lame race horse is stupid, just that it's obvious enough that they're able to see it and grasp it and repeat it.

Smart, talented people can use obvious comparisons, too. It's not illegal.

Posted by: Anon on May 3, 2008 at 11:17 PM | PERMALINK

I have a better idea: let's not have a contest.

Posted by: Horatio Parker on May 3, 2008 at 11:19 PM | PERMALINK

I'm putting my money on Kevin Drum.

Oh look! I won!

Posted by: pjcamp on May 3, 2008 at 11:24 PM | PERMALINK

many will use it but only Brooks will talk about the great divide between Americans who watch the Kentucky Derby and Americans who watch the World Cup.

Posted by: jimmy on May 3, 2008 at 11:25 PM | PERMALINK

Were it not apt, there would be no use of it.
Hillary and her Karma penalty. And even more ironically, the "horse race" coverage she offers for ratings, even though she has already lost. She deserves these comparisons. Eight Belles deserved much better.

Posted by: Sparko on May 3, 2008 at 11:32 PM | PERMALINK

If this had happened on a weekday, they'd all be falling over each other to use it. Limbaugh is usually the worst, Matthews is usually the one seems like he knows it's awful but he can't help himself.

Posted by: Miss Otis on May 3, 2008 at 11:45 PM | PERMALINK

If this had happened on a weekday, they'd all be falling over each other to use it. Limbaugh is usually the worst, Matthews is usually the one seems like he knows it's awful but he can't help himself.

Posted by: Miss Otis on May 3, 2008 at 11:45 PM | PERMALINK

Extended metaphor?

Hell, I'm betting somebody actually blames Clinton for it.

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on May 3, 2008 at 11:59 PM | PERMALINK

How about some hack at MyDD, like... alegre?

Posted by: username2 on May 4, 2008 at 12:30 AM | PERMALINK

I'm certainly hoping that this becomes an issue. Perhaps Hillary can give a funeral oration, then part her toga to show the crowd her battle scars.

Posted by: calling all toasters on May 4, 2008 at 12:40 AM | PERMALINK

How does a horse break both its ankles? Did they know that Chelsea was betting on EB and pushed the horse too hard to win?

Posted by: F64club on May 4, 2008 at 12:41 AM | PERMALINK

I've already used it.

Posted by: Memekiller on May 4, 2008 at 12:51 AM | PERMALINK

Oh, come on, Kevin. This sort of thing is found in Big Novels of all sorts. It's an OMEN. She bet on the horse, and they had to kill the horse.

You guys have NO SENSE OF HUMOR at all.

Posted by: POed Lib on May 4, 2008 at 1:03 AM | PERMALINK

Guess what? You just did, you sick ass.

Posted by: Athansor on May 4, 2008 at 1:03 AM | PERMALINK

How long after until some Clinton supporter tries to blame the Obama campaign for what happened to Eight Belles?

Posted by: biggerbox on May 4, 2008 at 1:23 AM | PERMALINK

A horse similar to Obama (if this is the meaning of your post) would not have been in the race you sicko!!!!

Posted by: Noel on May 4, 2008 at 1:26 AM | PERMALINK

damn you, Chicago!

but you do have a sense of style.

Posted by: this is us saying this is all you on May 4, 2008 at 1:53 AM | PERMALINK

For my first post here, I'd like to announce that when I heard the news about the filly Eight Belles today, I cried hard for two minutes. I NEVER do that. Just because our brains are a little bigger, we get to make them run until their legs break.

Other than that, this topic is WAY down the list of interesting things on your site. I guess it does give the Obamatons something to talk about besides their one-syllable cheers and grunts.

Posted by: Casey Chapple on May 4, 2008 at 2:21 AM | PERMALINK

This has Maureen Dowd written all over it.

Posted by: Old Hat on May 4, 2008 at 2:39 AM | PERMALINK

For my first post here, I'd like to announce that when I heard the news about the filly Eight Belles today, I cried hard for two minutes. I NEVER do that. Just because our brains are a little bigger, we get to make them run until their legs break.

Horse racing is such a humane fucking sport, isn't it?

Don't forget that other horse they pumped so full of steroids and amphetamines his legs broke. Barbaro. Then keeping him alive for however many months because they needed his precious semen to create more and more racehorses to entertain bored rich people.

Horse racing is fucking barbaric.

Posted by: Old Hat on May 4, 2008 at 2:44 AM | PERMALINK

Kevin, et al.,

I feel compelled to voice my sorrow and, yes, outrage at the tone-deafness I see demostrated here. I think this topic and the discussion thereon here is SHAMEFUL and unworthy of this blog.

What happened at the Kentucky Derby today was very very sad. In fact, it was nothing short of tragic. Notwithstanding Hillary's expressed choice in today's horse race, in my opinion, it is the very height of bad taste, given the heartbreaking misfortune of that brave filly, to try to draw any comparisons between the tragic events at the Kentucky Derby tody and the race for the democratic nomination. I would hope that everyone, including the media commentators, has the good taste not to go where Kevin is pointing.

Posted by: Erika S on May 4, 2008 at 3:10 AM | PERMALINK

Moreover, mark my words . . . Hillary will get many sympathy votes on May 6 if the media and bloggers go too far in drawing ill-spirited comparisons between her position in the nomination race and today's Kentucky Derby tragedy.

Posted by: EWS on May 4, 2008 at 3:25 AM | PERMALINK

Erika, I would tend to agree with you, if it had not been Hillary who had tried drawing the equivalence herself. Still, I think it would be sick to make it into a joke.

Posted by: Ramki on May 4, 2008 at 3:26 AM | PERMALINK

The fates have decided.

Posted by: Brojo on May 4, 2008 at 3:30 AM | PERMALINK

Who will be the first to accuse Hillary of having Eight Belles killed?

(Quaker in a Basement.)

Posted by: Brojo on May 4, 2008 at 3:38 AM | PERMALINK

Ramki,

Hillary's picking of "8 Belles" the female horse over the "Old Brown" male horse was done in the spirit of fun only -- the tragedy of the horse race was not forseen or forseeable. There was no bad taste involved when Hillary equated herself with the filly "8 Belles" and Obama with "Old Brown." The unforseen and heartbreaking tragedy at the Kentucky Derby has made extending Hillary's equation both cruel and more than faintly misogynistic. If Obama allows his surregates or his public supporters to go there (or keeps silent about their doing so), it will be another misstep for him. (Remember Bill Clinton's comments before the SC primary that were perceived to be racially tainted which caused the Hillary campaign so much trouble!)

Posted by: Erika S on May 4, 2008 at 4:35 AM | PERMALINK

Erika, since you appear to be up, still (hope by choice and not by night pests), I agree entirely that carrying this metaphor at all past the race today is sickeningly obtuse and maximally boring. Anybody who does it is exposed as chaff. I favor Hillary and so may have an obscured view of bad behavior among her supporters, but I've noticed a LOT of it on Obama's side, and not a peep from the candidate. It may bite him yet.

Posted by: Casey Chapple on May 4, 2008 at 5:01 AM | PERMALINK

The mordant wit of Erika S has not been seen since Mark Twain laid his pen aside.

Posted by: DAY on May 4, 2008 at 5:45 AM | PERMALINK

I feel compelled to voice my sorrow and, yes, outrage at the tone-deafness I see demostrated here. I think this topic and the discussion thereon here is SHAMEFUL and unworthy of this blog.

What happened at the Kentucky Derby today was very very sad. In fact, it was nothing short of tragic. Notwithstanding Hillary's expressed choice in today's horse race, in my opinion, it is the very height of bad taste, given the heartbreaking misfortune of that brave filly, to try to draw any comparisons between the tragic events at the Kentucky Derby tody and the race for the democratic nomination. I would hope that everyone, including the media commentators, has the good taste not to go where Kevin is pointing.

As Lloyd Bentsen said, after Dan Quayle objected that his famous "you're no John F. Kennedy" line was "uncalled for":

"You're the one who made the comparison, Senator."

Posted by: douglasfactors on May 4, 2008 at 8:34 AM | PERMALINK

UM...yes, YOU...but, frankly, I'd e-mailed it to family soon after the DERBY finished because I'm way too into the way the minds of our illustious media and blogosphere operates...way too many tidbits that couldn't be ignored...the filly against the less experienced BIG BROWN and another favorite being COLONEL JOHN...get real...add to that those who've been trying to "KILL HILLARY OFF" and you've got a swell metaphor....

Posted by: Dancer on May 4, 2008 at 8:35 AM | PERMALINK

Ever since the Patriots won the same year the Red Sox finally won.. and John Kerry still lost.. I've given up on using Sports results as a harbinger.

Posted by: PE on May 4, 2008 at 9:53 AM | PERMALINK

Anyone thinking of using this tragedy as a metaphor should ask himself: would you go there if one of Hillary's Yankees (say, Mike Mussina), or Barack's White Sox (say, Orlando Cabrera) died on the field? Well, Eight Belles was an athlete just like they are.

Posted by: kth on May 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK

Actually, this is the first thing that has made me feel sad for the junior Senator from New York.
For the most part anything that beats Clinton up delights me, but anyone in any way related to or touched by that tragedy has my utmost sympathy.

Posted by: Bill H on May 4, 2008 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK

Kev,

Interesting method of bringing it up by critisizing it and then asking who would be so crass and low to bring it up first, as if the first to do it is the worst while subsequent bringer uppers, metaphorically speaking, are not quite as noteworthy as the first responder.
Damn, Kev, did ya ever think about getting in to politics?

Posted by: majarosh on May 4, 2008 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

It is very sad, the filly's death. But as omens go, wow. If a novelist created such an incident, the reviewers would criticize him or her for being so heavy-handed.

And if I were Hillary Clinton, I'd start carrying a rabbit's foot and wearing a strand of coral or turquoise at all times.

Posted by: PTate in MN on May 4, 2008 at 10:59 AM | PERMALINK

"Horse racing is fucking barbaric."

You'd better believe it. At the lower level of competition things are even worse. Horses that don't do well at the racetrack often become 'killer' horses, which means dog food companies come straight to the racetrack to pick up the horse and take it to the factory, with the owner getting $500.

Posted by: nepeta on May 4, 2008 at 11:42 AM | PERMALINK

Oops, I got my terminology wrong. The guys from the dog food company are the ones called 'killers.'

Posted by: nepeta on May 4, 2008 at 11:45 AM | PERMALINK

mountain out of molehill problem...

now here's a molehill into a mountain problem:

Everyone got a preacher problem! Hill has a Bill problem, McCain a Hagee/wife/Bush problem and Obama-man is blessed with an old testament, doom and gloom prophet problem. (Does the name Jeremiah ring a bell? Or is that Pavlov?)

I'll tell why that's good: we've been so ruined by the cheerful idiot in the White House that we'll need the corrective of a glass half full pessimist. On the preacher front, point goes to Pastor Wright!

Posted by: Dr Wu, I'm just an ordinary guy on May 4, 2008 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK
....She deserves these comparisons....Sparko at 11:32 PM
Only in Obamaworld would anyone even think that.
...How long after until some Clinton supporter tries to blame the Obama campaign .... biggerbox at 1:23 AM
About never, but implied smear was expected even as Obama fan F64Club at 12:41 blames Clinton. Posted by: Mike on May 4, 2008 at 12:05 PM | PERMALINK

Drudge - within minutes of the race and news of Eight Bells's fate.

Posted by: MaryLou on May 4, 2008 at 12:08 PM | PERMALINK

The chattering classes are inexplicably in the tank for Clinton. Actually, it is explicable: Obama wants to end the clown show.

At any rate, I don't see this happening.

Posted by: Jim D on May 4, 2008 at 12:15 PM | PERMALINK

Aw, come on, how can you NOT talk about it? HIllary apparently asked everyone to bet on the horse, she came in second to Big Brown, the jockey said I just couldn't get her to stop....and she ended up breaking two ankles and being euthanized. I mean, if I believed in god and oracles or any of that....just how much more clear a message could some god send? Big Brown? I mean, no, there's no logical reason to take it into consideration, but I know when I read it I had to check the date to make sure it wasn't April Fools, that I wasn't reading The Onion, and then double check a couple other web sites because of just how unbelievable the thing appeared....

Posted by: catherineD on May 4, 2008 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK

My first off-topic comment ever: Is it just me or is the MSM seriously trying to torpedo Obama's nomination?

Posted by: Del Capslock on May 4, 2008 at 12:40 PM | PERMALINK

Let's assume for a moment that, rather than the unlikely events of (1) a horse named Big Brown running in, and (2) winning over, (3) a female horse (4)(when female horses haven't even run recently) in the Kentucky Derby (5) preceding the presidential election where the first black contender with a real chance in a presidential primary is competing against (6) the first woman with a real chance, and (7) the woman in the presidential primary campaign is losing to the black man, and (8) the woman bets on the losing female horse in the Kentucky Derby- the common action of human interference explains all these "coincidences" (after all, I'm sure plenty of excellent statisticians would tell you that the chances the Kentucky Derby can be rigged far exceed the chaneds of all (1)-(8) happening together by chance). We'll allow that maybe only Eight Belles' actually finishing second and the tragic injury weren't rigged.

Then, what do you think inspires the race-rigger to such a goony action? Jackass movies? Picking on littler kids when he was in elementary school?

And, more importantly, how can a race like that be rigged? For one thing, ultrasonic devices can mess with a lot of different animals, from squirrels, to cats, birds, dogs, and humans. How would you make all the horses run behind Big Brown?

Posted by: Swan on May 4, 2008 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK

I really see no need to think about Hillary Clinton, and I try never to any more. I'm just crying for that poor, poor horse.

Posted by: shortstop on May 4, 2008 at 12:55 PM | PERMALINK

We have a winner:

The brown one wins and the female finishes second and has to be taken out.

Posted by MediaCzech, BarefootandProgressive.com, 6:47pm ET, 5/3/08

Admittedly, it is a Kentucky blog, so this kind of thing isn't particularly new to us.

Posted by: JaB on May 4, 2008 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

The first blogger to use the "idiotically extended metaphor" was Kevin Drum.

Posted by: mhr on May 4, 2008 at 1:29 PM | PERMALINK

Anyone wondering what is misogyny and how does elitism manifest itself should simply read the comments section on this post. It's fairly disturbing.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 4, 2008 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK

Obviously, everybody's going to use it, but I predict only Camille Paglia will use it in all seriousness and at great length.

Posted by: mats on May 4, 2008 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK

They're put down because there's no way to keep them alive without them being in intense pain. The horse can't stand but will keep trying to.

Putting them down isn't "monstrous" at all.

How does a horse break both its ankles?

By stopping too abruptly. A modern race horse has skinnier legs than Babe Ruth.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on May 4, 2008 at 2:20 PM | PERMALINK

You started two posts in a row with "As we all know...", and then mentioned something I didn't know. But now I know!

Posted by: Dan K. on May 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM | PERMALINK

faintly misogynistic

The untimely death of the poor horse and the ultimate (hoped for) defeat of Sen. Clinton faintly appeal to the sense of tragedy, which appropriately mirrors both the damage Clinton has done to her own legacy and the much greater tragedy of the W. Bush presidency.

It's Eight Belles for America. The metaphors are inexhaustible.

Posted by: Brojo on May 4, 2008 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

Oh my...didn't know what "Eight Bells" referenced until I checked Wikipedia.

"The term "Eight bells" can also be a way of saying that a sailor's watch is over, for instance, in his or her obituary. It's a nautical euphemism for "finished".

I'm sad for the horse, but this idiotically extended metaphor is unbelievable.

Posted by: on May 4, 2008 at 4:02 PM | PERMALINK

Oops, that was me.

Posted by: danimal on May 4, 2008 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK

PTate: "If a novelist created such an incident, the reviewers would criticize him or her for being so heavy-handed."

Exactly. It lands with a big thud. Ugly thing, full of "faintly" racist and misogynist implications dragging a skunk boat of pride in one's ability to make these dubious comparisons. Funny that something so shallow can still have the effect of being smacked with a hockey puck.

Del Chapslock: "Is it just me or is the MSM seriously trying to torpedo Obama's nomination?"

Now THIS is interesting. There's an opportunity now to hash this problem out, with lots of smart people watching the process. Bob Somerby at the Daily Howler makes it his business to point out were members of the MSM behave badly in the performance of their jobs, and made an irrefutable - to me - argument that Al Gore's campaign was quite deliberately sabotaged. THIS race is confusing the hell out of lots of us, with libs torn exactly in half and no Solomon in sight. (Yeah, yeah, we'll patch it up.) The MSM has NOT been helpful. Just for example, Olbermann used to be amusing and thought-provoking. Now he's an embarrassing, fanatical Obama-clown. (Yep. I'm for Hillary. So kill me.) Gail Collins and Andrew Rosenthal and the other goofs at the NYTimes are using it as their own personal blog, leaving considered, measured, balanced, HELPFUL observations behind. As Hillary does better, with the voters insisting on messing with the pollsters and talking heads, I believe the MSM, if it is to maintain ANY credibility, HAS to report the truth. Therefore, if you support Obama, you may be observing the MSM actually doing their job, while perceiving that they are trying to squash Obama.

Posted by: on May 4, 2008 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

That blank space should have said me.

Posted by: Casey Chapple on May 4, 2008 at 4:59 PM | PERMALINK

Here's a different version of my comments a little clearer, with a little elaboration. Also in the comments below the diary, I answer some objections.

Posted by: Swan on May 4, 2008 at 5:41 PM | PERMALINK

Don't know if it's been mentioned but the only knock on Big Brown was that he'd run too few races, he wasn't experienced enough.

Posted by: markg8 on May 4, 2008 at 6:43 PM | PERMALINK

Anyone thinking of using this tragedy as a metaphor should ask himself: would you go there if one of Hillary's Yankees (say, Mike Mussina), or Barack's White Sox (say, Orlando Cabrera) died on the field? Well, Eight Belles was an athlete just like they are.

Posted by: kth on May 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM

You mean Hillary's Cubs, don't you?

Posted by: Vincent on May 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM | PERMALINK

Hillary jinxed that poor horse.

Posted by: sab on May 5, 2008 at 12:14 AM | PERMALINK

KAUS of course.

Posted by: on May 5, 2008 at 12:23 AM | PERMALINK

Swan: Here's a different version of my comments a little clearer, with a little elaboration.

You clarify nothing. You elaborate nothing. You are an ignorant blog whore. Go away.

Posted by: on May 5, 2008 at 1:02 AM | PERMALINK

Who do you think will be the first pundit/columnist/talking head to use this as an idiotically extended metaphor for the state of Hillary Clinton's campaign? Matthews? Dowd? Jonah Goldberg?

Clinton made a well-publicized and politically calculated move putting it "on the philly". She deserves whatever "idiotically extended metaphor" gets thrown at her.

Posted by: has407 on May 5, 2008 at 1:59 AM | PERMALINK

this morning's El Nuevo Dia (san juan, PR) has a whole article talking about the comment and keeps refering to clinton as "the mother of Chelsea"

Posted by: dave Buchen on May 5, 2008 at 9:57 AM | PERMALINK

It's been revealed that EB's jockey listens to Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: on May 5, 2008 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

First blogger is Kentucky's own Media Czech at Barefoot and Progressive, 6:47 p.m. Eastern time Saturday.

However, I happen to think he said it just right.

http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2008/05/derby-wrap-up.html

Posted by: Yellow Dog on May 5, 2008 at 3:14 PM | PERMALINK

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/05/03/2008-05-03_fate_of_hils_derby_pick_a_bad_omen.html

Posted by: Nils on May 6, 2008 at 12:55 AM | PERMALINK

You're the 2nd I've heard. So take a bow, all the while noting that you didn't...actually...use the extended metaphor; you just wondered when it would be used....Nice.

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