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June 2, 2008
By: Cheryl Rofer

EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION CONTINUED....Reprieve, a human rights organization (UK branch, US branch), claims that the United States is using prison ships to keep prisoners outside legal jurisdictions. They say that there have been more than 200 new cases of rendition since 2006, when President George Bush declared that the practice had stopped.

A US Navy spokesman denied that such things were happening. Members of the British Parliament are calling for an investigation.

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Call for investigation of Somalia as well....

"We'v written extensively (see below) on this new "regime change" operation: the third government that Bush has taken down in his"War on Terror" -- and the third such action which has quickly descended into a bloody quagmire of chaos, ruin, terror and death for the innocent people caught in the maw of his brutal geopolitical games."

http://www.chris-floyd.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1108&Itemid=135

Posted by: Media Don't Tell on June 2, 2008 at 10:33 AM | PERMALINK

Meanwhile, in Iraq, the International Red Cross, it was reported, had "its first opportunity in more than 20 months" to see hundreds of former Abu Ghraib prisoners now rehoused in a state-of-the-art multimillion dollar prison, Camp Cropper, that the Bush administration has built, almost without notice, near Baghdad International Airport. Finally (but not exhaustively), back in our growing homeland security state, "in a stealth maneuver, President Bush has signed into law a provision which, according to Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), will actually encourage the President to declare federal martial law." The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, according to Frank Morales, "allows the President to declare a ‘public emergency' and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to ‘suppress public disorder.'"

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/135352/nick_turse_on_the_bush_planetary_lock_up

Posted by: Global Prison Planet on June 2, 2008 at 10:47 AM | PERMALINK

http://www.flyclear.com/about/clear_howclearworks.html

The larger prison of "anti-terrorist" security clamp-downs.

Posted by: Slowly Closing Door on June 2, 2008 at 10:54 AM | PERMALINK

The Bush-men of the Apocalypse loosed again on truth, justice and the American way. Bush simply must be impeached or imprisoned. This type of behavior must stop forever and never be replicated. I am so embarrassed by these idiots.

Posted by: Sparko on June 2, 2008 at 10:56 AM | PERMALINK

OT, but great news:
new Fafblog.

Posted by: joel hanes on June 2, 2008 at 11:05 AM | PERMALINK

"that the Bush administration has built, almost without notice, near Baghdad International Airport. "

It's not near BIAP, it's on BIAP. You can throw a rock from the main gate and hit a taxi-way.

Posted by: 1SG on June 2, 2008 at 11:14 AM | PERMALINK

The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, according to Frank Morales, "allows the President to declare a ‘public emergency' and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to ‘suppress public disorder.'"

And yet people call me 'crazed' when I mention the future civil breakdown as the global 'development' plan based on constant expansion falls apart.

If I thought those troops would protect me I'd be more grateful, but I know they will protect the ultra-rich instead.

Pretty clearly the powers that be have chosen the "barricaded lifeboat" option for the upcoming problem years.

Sigh. Most people didn't even get a choice. And there were other options that could have worked if we had started them earlier.

Posted by: Tripp on June 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK

Let's hope the "public emergency" is not declared before the election and the inauguration.

Posted by: peggy on June 2, 2008 at 11:42 AM | PERMALINK

While members of our US Congress have their thumbs up their butts.

Posted by: ZombieNation on June 2, 2008 at 11:46 AM | PERMALINK

Tripp: If I thought those troops would protect me I'd be more grateful,

Of course they'll protect you. Don't worry, they won't let you anywhere near that mean ol' electrified fence, where you might get hurt.

Posted by: thersites on June 2, 2008 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK

Maybe a "public emergency" just in Democratic leaning states and big cities.
This is the crowd that stop counting the votes in Florida and had the Supreme Court steal the election. Are they just going to slink out of the White House, issue a few pardons, and be done with it?
If commenters think I need tinfoil, I wear a ladies large hat.

Posted by: Peggy on June 2, 2008 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK

Prison spaceship Earth.

Posted by: Brojo on June 2, 2008 at 11:57 AM | PERMALINK

What happens offshore, stays offshore.

Posted by: ckelly on June 2, 2008 at 12:05 PM | PERMALINK

My prediction: The wingnuts will point to the official denial and denounce those who strongly suspect that the official denial is a lie right up UNTIL it turns out that the official denial IS a lie. At THAT point they'll claim that there's nothing wrong with disappearing people into secret floating prisons so it doesn't matter EITHER a) that the U.S. government is doing it OR b) that the U.S. government lied about doing it.

We've seen this pattern before.

Posted by: John on June 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM | PERMALINK

I was encouraged when I heard all-news radio WTOP mention the off-shore prisons earlier today. WTOP has the largest rating for listeners in the DC region. At least DC commuters are hearing about the prisons.

Posted by: pol on June 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM | PERMALINK

Why would the US navy know about these ships? There're plenty of other flags for a prison ship to fly with international sailors and blackwater guards. The navy's denial of knowledge means nothing. Why'd they bother? Spin control?

Posted by: slanted tom on June 2, 2008 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK

I really wonder about stories like this, since we don't even manage to prosecute that many terrorists. Does a lot of the war on terror just consist of secretly + summarily liquidating people? Or do we do a lot more of the prosecution in secret courts than most people ever hear about?

Perhaps if the statistic is that ove 90% of War on Terror prosecutions are done in secret courts, it's not bandied about because it's so appalling.

When I was a kid, my dad was a big believer in Irish naionalism. I remember how appalling throwing IRA-connected prisoners into a hole for years, with no legal right to a trial, to a review of their confinement and no way to know if or when they'd ever get out, used to sound. As I got older, I was appalled further to realize what a lock out of access to the media being the little guy fighting against the super powers was-- the IRA probably only hurt as many civilians as a ratio of casualties inflicted as any side in a war usually does, and it probably wasn't their official policy to hurt civilians, but everyone seemed to believe the IRA was involved in some kind of a religious war, and they were almost universally portrayed in both the entertainment and news media as criminals and bad guys. To hear much at all of the true story of the situation in Northern Ireland over the past 50 years, one always has had to go to small-publication books put out by independent activists, as far as I ever discovered.

It's interesting how the times have changed, and to discover that what was appalling for another country to do in the '80s is now standard operating procedure for the US in the 2000s.

Posted by: Swan on June 2, 2008 at 2:15 PM | PERMALINK

Didn't the British "store" insurrectionist colonials (I think we called them patriots) in leaky ships in New York harbor during the American Revolution?

Posted by: Ray Waldren on June 2, 2008 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK

Wasn't floating prisons the plot line of the CBS series "The Unit" last year? I wonder if they knew anything or if it was just a logical conclusion to draw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unit

Posted by: mikeyes on June 2, 2008 at 2:54 PM | PERMALINK

Way, way off topic, but Bo Diddley has died. If you love rock and roll even a little bit, go to your room and cry for an hour. The rest of the world will continue to go to hell even if you stop paying attention for that long.

Blue Girl has linked to some excellent videos.

Posted by: thersites on June 2, 2008 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

Civilized nations do not pretend that there are places without law, where they can act lawlessly: Instead, at all times, everywhere, they ask "Which system of law applies?"

The uncivilized alternative, as we now see, can erode law everywhere.

Posted by: Laws&order on June 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

A US Navy spokesman denied that such things were happening.

Here we go again - first Bush denies it, than says it's a matter of national security and than WANTS congress to pass a law allowing it.

Maybe we could just use EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION to make Bush and Cheney disappear - since after all they do appear to be an enemy of the state, and certainly of democracy.

Posted by: Me-again on June 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

What? Bush lied?

Posted by: W Action on June 2, 2008 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

Call Nan @1-202-225-0100 DEMAND IMPEACHMENT. I called today, now its YOUR turn.

Posted by: Mike Meyer on June 2, 2008 at 7:08 PM | PERMALINK

While I personally think that extraordinary rendition is an abomination that has no place in American democracy, it was unfortunately started by Bill Clinton’s administration. Click here for details. I’m afraid the Democrats don’t have the moral high ground on this issue……

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on June 2, 2008 at 10:50 PM | PERMALINK

I have no comment on the practices described at the links.

I would like to point out that every site that has posted on this story has echoed the rhetoric of 'prison ship'

Now to me, that sounds like they have the Astral Queen out there.

But what they seem to have is an amphib or two where they (may or may not) have made temporary use of the brig on those ships.

There is a bit of unnecessary rhetorical excess here that I think will cause the story to be marginalized. The dry facts should speak for themselves.

Posted by: Kolohe on June 3, 2008 at 1:37 AM | PERMALINK

The 'Bataan', being used as a prison ship...you can't make this up...

Posted by: john_manyjars on June 3, 2008 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

"the IRA probably only hurt as many civilians as a ratio of casualties inflicted as any side in a war usually does, and it probably wasn't their official policy to hurt civilians"
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Wrong. The IRA actively and proudly targeted civilians. There wasn't anything remotely accidental or incidental about these deaths and it was their declared intent to kill such "traitors," even if the "traitor" in question was simply someone doing their job or spoke too often about compromise.

Posted by: trashhauler on June 4, 2008 at 11:49 AM | PERMALINK

"...what they seem to have is an amphib or two where they (may or may not) have made temporary use of the brig on those ships."
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This is undoubtedly the case. We would not need, nor choose to use, an amphib carrier like the Pelelui or Bataan simply to house prisoners. Why keep a warship with its escorts and embarked MEU hanging around to hold prisoners? That part of the story, at least, is grade A bullshit.

Posted by: trashhauler on June 4, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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