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June 11, 2008
By: Kevin Drum

QUOTE OF THE DAY....From Owen Cargol, then president of Northern Arizona University, explaining his locker room conduct to a fellow employee:

In a subsequent e-mail to the employee, Cargol described himself as "a rub-your-belly, grab-your-balls, give-you-a-hug, slap-your-back, pull-your-dick, squeeze-your-hand, cheek-your-face, and pat-your-thigh kind of guy."

Uh huh. You'll be unsurprised to know that Cargol was considered an ideal choice by the Coalition Provisional Authority to become the first chancellor of the American University of Iraq last year. Via Henry Farrell.

Kevin Drum 11:22 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (54)
 
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Cargol, who at the time was a married father of two children, went on to say that he was a “sensual kind of guy” who hoped the employee could “feel comfortable enough with me (and others) to reciprocate the same level of playfulness and affection,” the newspaper reported.

"Playfulness and affection"? Is that what the kids are calling that these days? I'm so old I remember when that was called "sexual assault."

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on June 11, 2008 at 11:36 AM | PERMALINK

This is why I am a male lesbian. I just can't get into all this "guy" stuff.

Posted by: red@cted on June 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM | PERMALINK

*

Posted by: mhr on June 11, 2008 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

This stuff just writes itself.

Posted by: junebug on June 11, 2008 at 11:46 AM | PERMALINK

Early contender for winner of the thread: red@cted.

Posted by: thersites on June 11, 2008 at 11:48 AM | PERMALINK

I'll bet Cheney and W grab each other's balls all the time.

Posted by: Oregonian on June 11, 2008 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK

Great news -- Baghdad will have college football this fall! Peace is just around the corner.

Will recruits have to let Chancellor Cargol pull their dicks to be considered for the team? Will Baghdad be included in the BCS rankings?

Posted by: pj in jesusland on June 11, 2008 at 11:55 AM | PERMALINK

There's a certain kind of criminal defendant who thinks that he can explain away just anything. Cargol fits the profile really well.

On the other hand, the source of this story suggests that the AU-Iraq is doing OK and that Cargol's departure from that institution resulted from his past catching up with him, not from any more recent misfeasance. But I wonder if there's more to the story?

Posted by: David in NY on June 11, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK

It should not surprise Americans W. Bush administration officials enjoy sword play.

Posted by: Brojo on June 11, 2008 at 12:04 PM | PERMALINK

From the link.

"The spokesman said he didn’t know Cargol’s whereabouts"

Anyone try Larry Craig's office?

Posted by: optical weenie on June 11, 2008 at 12:07 PM | PERMALINK

"Cargol described himself as "a rub-your-belly, grab-your-balls, give-you-a-hug, slap-your-back, pull-your-dick, squeeze-your-hand, cheek-your-face, and pat-your-thigh kind of guy."


That's a Republican soul handshake.

Posted by: kc on June 11, 2008 at 12:08 PM | PERMALINK

I've heard of a few different incidences of this lately. Perhaps there is correlation between academic success, unchecked ambition, and ball grabbing.

Posted by: B on June 11, 2008 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK

"Cargol described himself as "a rub-your-belly, grab-your-balls, give-you-a-hug, slap-your-back, pull-your-dick, squeeze-your-hand, cheek-your-face, and pat-your-thigh kind of guy."

So let me get this straight...Cargol sees himself as...um...well, "straight", amirite?
huh...
So...um...yeah...didn't our government get it's undies all up in a bunch cause they said gays would be doing this in the military?

Perhaps the government should...oh, you know...think again about who they think is going to be throwing the "grab-ass" parties.

Posted by: sheerahkahn on June 11, 2008 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK

And Republicans object to "fist-jabs"! Sheesh.

Posted by: David in NY on June 11, 2008 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK

I've always favored self-reliance in these matters.

Posted by: thersites on June 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM | PERMALINK

This is why I always wash my hands after being introduced to Republicans.

Posted by: rk on June 11, 2008 at 12:19 PM | PERMALINK

Something of a theme. John McCain is actually advertising his own balls on the intertubes:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/11/2165/55268/106/533829

Posted by: BigBird on June 11, 2008 at 12:24 PM | PERMALINK

I guess Colbert beat us to it. It's called tickling the rocks and it's how god-fearing patriots great eachother.

Posted by: asdf on June 11, 2008 at 12:24 PM | PERMALINK

I'm guessing that in Cargol's, uhm, interesting take on conservative lexicon, he's a pull himself up by the jockstrap kind of guy.

Posted by: The Critic on June 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM | PERMALINK

I wonder if there's more to the story?

Child abusers tend to infiltrate institutions where children are subjected to arbitrary authority. This allows the abuser to appear to be giving children aid and comfort when in fact they are molesting them systematically. Orphanages are notorious for harboring child molestors, as are juvenile corrections institutions. The child molestation at Oprah's school in South Africa is a recent example, and was something easily predicted. It should not surprise Americans that child molestors have been attracted to working for NGO's in Iraq that cater to the welfare of children.

Posted by: Brojo on June 11, 2008 at 12:54 PM | PERMALINK

The Critic: I'm guessing that in Cargol's, uhm, interesting take on conservative lexicon, he's a pull himself up by the jockstrap kind of guy.

But it's not his own jockstrap.

Posted by: anandine on June 11, 2008 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK

There's a misprint...

...Cargol described himself as "a rub-your-belly, grab-your-balls, give-you-a-hug, slap-your-back, pull-your-dick, squeeze-your-hand, cheek-your-face, and pat-your-thigh kind of GAY".

Say it loud, say it proud--nothing wrong with that.

It's great for him to be out, so many closeted Republicans yet to go.

Posted by: Neal on June 11, 2008 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "cheek-your-face?"

Posted by: jerry on June 11, 2008 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

Cargol described himself as "a rub-your-belly, grab-your-balls, give-you-a-hug, slap-your-back, pull-your-dick, squeeze-your-hand, cheek-your-face, and pat-your-thigh kind of guy".

That's funny, I've always considered myself a *GET YOUR FUCKING HANDS OFF OF ME* kind of guy. Different strokes, I guess.

Posted by: hw on June 11, 2008 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

So in other words, he's telling you he's gay.

Posted by: QrazyQat on June 11, 2008 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "cheek-your-face?"

Ever hear of mooning jerry?

Posted by: optical weenie on June 11, 2008 at 1:28 PM | PERMALINK

Bush is so restrained (in this single area of his dysfunctional life), settling for a long, meaningful look into Vladimir Putin's eyes.

Posted by: Gaia on June 11, 2008 at 1:38 PM | PERMALINK

Oh my god. I remember the Cargol scandal here at NAU. He seemed so charming (he had that Kennedy accent), but he really was quite disturbing.

Posted by: Erin in Flagstaff on June 11, 2008 at 1:38 PM | PERMALINK

"It certainly looks like here's someone who's had some administrative experiences."

And most of them appear to involve hyphens.

Posted by: fms on June 11, 2008 at 1:40 PM | PERMALINK

Shh. Way too many people know of "mooning jerry". I thought I had finally ditched that after college, then after moving to three different cities.

(But thank you for the explanation.)

Posted by: jerry on June 11, 2008 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

if anybody is so inclined and has a few extra minutes, Mr. Cargol is in dire need of a wikipedia profile.

interestingly enough,
his name doesn't appear in the arizona northern university's entry either.

Posted by: dj spellchecka on June 11, 2008 at 1:56 PM | PERMALINK

He's going to grab your balls and pull your dick but not in a, you know, homosexual kind of way. No, not at all. More in a, you know, medical kind of way. Lookin' out for your health, you know?

This guy didn't get a Roman Catholic education by any chance, did he?

Posted by: Cal Gal on June 11, 2008 at 2:22 PM | PERMALINK

can we bring back the term 'masher'.

Posted by: pansypoo on June 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK

What was Cargol coaching - Ultimate fighting?!

I mean I don't really care if you are gay but at least be honest about it and keep your friggin' hands to yourself or a willing adult partner.

I remember the "good old days" when only women had to put up with this crap. (And I am being sarcastic - those days were not good and NO ONE should have to put up with this crap.)

Posted by: Tripp the Crazed! on June 11, 2008 at 2:54 PM | PERMALINK

Those kind of guys usually end up spitting out broken pieces of teeth.

Exactly the kind of representative this country needs.

Posted by: CN on June 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK

If he were also a "tap-your-foot" kind of guy, then I'd worry.

Posted by: CapMidnight on June 11, 2008 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

Do these guys just want to drive the Onion right out of business? Man, it must be getting harder and harder to come up with new, original, fictional material over there.

Posted by: Basilisc on June 11, 2008 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

Now, do we have Iraq by the balls or does it have us by the balls - or amazingly, both?

Posted by: Neil B. on June 11, 2008 at 4:55 PM | PERMALINK

I was at NAU when the Board of Reagents picked this winner against the universally negative recommendation of the entire faculty. Ahhh the memories of being completely ignored....wait a minute...

Posted by: catalexis on June 11, 2008 at 5:13 PM | PERMALINK

Cargol described himself as "a rub-your-belly, grab-your-balls, give-you-a-hug, slap-your-back, pull-your-dick, squeeze-your-hand, cheek-your-face, and pat-your-thigh kind of guy."

As long as it's not a terrorist belly-rub....

Posted by: Stefan on June 11, 2008 at 5:17 PM | PERMALINK

Those kind of guys usually end up spitting out broken pieces of teeth.

Not at all. All that "locker room behavior" is how fraternity members ensure each other's silence on all their backdoor behaviors - mutual blackmail.

Posted by: IowaNative on June 11, 2008 at 5:32 PM | PERMALINK

was "fisting", you know the terra type?

involved?

Posted by: Anon on June 11, 2008 at 5:57 PM | PERMALINK

This is NAU, people.

"He's a lumberjack and he's okay!"

Posted by: zenger on June 11, 2008 at 6:10 PM | PERMALINK

Zenger:
"This is NAU, people.
"He's a lumberjack and he's okay!" "

Oh, Zenger, you made my day. As an employee and alumni of NAU I thank you for the lumberjack reference.

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