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June 12, 2008
By: Kevin Drum

SMEARS....Today the Obama campaign unveils "Fight the Smears," a website dedicated to real-time debunking of, um, smears. Seems like a great idea, but I wonder what it's going to look like once they have more than four smears debunked? You're going to have to scroll for miles if they just keep adding new stuff to the top.

Kevin Drum 12:58 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (24)
 
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yeah. the scrolling could be an issue. They better break it down into groups:

HannitySmears.com
MalkinSmears.com
EDHillSmears.com
GenericMuslimSmears.com
OReillySmears.com
LouDobbsSmears.com
LiebermanSmears.com

Posted by: glutz78 on June 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe they should just have a continual link to Larry Johnson's hate site.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower on June 12, 2008 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

Yesterday Kevin posted on the topic of what Obama will get done/priorities.

The Obama style may well be known from its ablitiy to not be what Dems are used to: Talking great things but being rather passive in its efforts.

His HQ in Chicago could be as well known and ground breaking as Clinton's Little Rock War Room in '92. I note with a smile all the traumatized Dems so worried about the Senator and how he will deal with this campaign and the Presidency.

Nothing is certain, but I am not so worried. I am expecting to be amazed and entertained, and I am expecting the emails from the local coordinators suggesting how I may help out.

Posted by: keith g on June 12, 2008 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK

Still waiting for barackobama.com to introduce Friday catblogging.

Posted by: lampwick on June 12, 2008 at 1:37 PM | PERMALINK

Damn! Just after posting the above, I went next door and saw this.

Way to go Barak!

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/obama_campaign_taking_over_lar.php

Posted by: keith g on June 12, 2008 at 1:38 PM | PERMALINK

I heard that Muslims don't have catblogging. *gasp*

Posted by: absent observer on June 12, 2008 at 1:42 PM | PERMALINK

also - no real place to submit smears that you see for them to be debunked. That would be a good idea.

Posted by: yep on June 12, 2008 at 1:46 PM | PERMALINK

[inhales deeply] Smell that fresh air!

But would any self-respecting GOP supporter would go read such a website?

Facts are irrelevant; "winning" "victory" doggedly continues as the Mantra of the Enlightened Conservative.


Posted by: Zit on June 12, 2008 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK

I agree with glutz. You can also classify the smears by category:

1) Foreign-sounding name
2) Religious affiliation/soft on Muslims
3) Speakers at his former church
4) Campaign appointees
5) Personal clothing accessories (flag pins, etc.)
6) Wife's public remarks
7) Unfair ridicule of McCain's remarks
8) Wife's perfect wardrobe
9) Vegetable preferences (arugula, etc.)
10) "Good talker"
11) Ivy League elitist
12) Are his good looks natural???
13) Secret love child

Posted by: pj in jesusland on June 12, 2008 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK

14)bumping fists

Posted by: Zit on June 12, 2008 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

JMHO but I think this is a waste of manpower and electrons. The people who will believe the smears most likely do not use, or have access to, the intertoobz.

Seems like this is more like a preaching to the choir effort.

Posted by: optical weenie on June 12, 2008 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

ABC's web site almost alway features a prominent link to some screed by Elizabeth Hasselbeck about Obama.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on June 12, 2008 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK

Sen. Obama has already done more to convince the electorate he believes in himself and his goals than either Kerry or Gore did in their whole presidential campaigns. Obama's self-confidence exceeds McCain's, and the voters will respond well to it.

Posted by: Brojo on June 12, 2008 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

From keith g's cited site:

"Obama Campaign Taking Over Large Swaths Of DNC Operations."

"Obama's directive to his donors not to give to 527s, it's the latest sign of how rapidly he's moving both to remake the party in his own image and to impose message discipline on it"

hummm, Young blood infused into the DNC, new ideas, new plans of attack, new sense of power...I like it.

Out with the old, in with the new. It is sooo time.

Posted by: Zit on June 12, 2008 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK

I think they need to reformat the entries too. Even though there is "LIE" before each smear, the smear is there in the text. They should state the truth under each smear, not repeat the lie.

Posted by: AndyB on June 12, 2008 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK

Seems like a great idea, but I wonder what it's going to look like once they have more than four smears debunked? You're going to have to scroll for miles if they just keep adding new stuff to the top.

I like how it's just a given that the list of right-wing smears will be miles long.

Posted by: Gregory on June 12, 2008 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK

Quoth optical weenie: "The people who will believe the smears most likely do not use, or have access to, the intertoobz."
It is, however, important to educate the choir to whom we are preaching, on precisely how to answer each one of these smears. If I know that I can dispatch the idiotic assertions of my right-wing co-workers with confident fact-based rebuttals, I'm definitely better off. In fact we all are, because the wingers will think twice about repeating those idiotic assertions, even to each other.
Basically, if their echo chamber is full of holes, it echoes less. And right now, the echo is all they've got goin' for them.

Posted by: Govt Skeptic on June 12, 2008 at 3:10 PM | PERMALINK

The game, then, is to start a weird smear and see if you can get it on the web site, making you the champion.

Let me think, a good Obama smear?


Posted by: Matt on June 12, 2008 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

What to do: link to Fightthesmears.com if you have a website or blog.

Then stand back and let Google do its thing.

Posted by: KathyF on June 12, 2008 at 4:13 PM | PERMALINK

hummm, Young blood infused into the DNC, new ideas, new plans of attack, new sense of power...I like it.

Out with the old, in with the new. It is sooo time.

Posted by: Zit


Jim Johnson.


ps- Is Bill Clinton still a racist?

Posted by: david on June 12, 2008 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK

I like how it's just a given that the list of right-wing smears will be miles long.

New to this country, are you?

Posted by: DH Walker on June 12, 2008 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK

The quantity of smears could actually be part of the point. After a while, for anyone who isn't a total freeper, scrolling through the list of the ridiculous and hysterical becomes its own debunking, and immunization against further smears.

Posted by: bluewave on June 12, 2008 at 9:06 PM | PERMALINK

Of course a website is an appropriate tool for this. An unbelievable number of these smears are perpetrated via email, and this crap gets passed on by people who really should know better. Having a handy link to send to the perpetrator (copying everyone) is convenient and will be effective in a limited way...with people who genuinely aren't sure what's true and aren't predisposed to believe wild rumors.

Posted by: shortstop on June 12, 2008 at 11:22 PM | PERMALINK

"JMHO but I think this is a waste of manpower and electrons. The people who will believe the smears most likely do not use, or have access to, the intertoobz."
Posted by: optical weenie

have to disagree here. factcheck.org has a good article pointing out that all the "smears" email come from the right. this is the one way that they are internet-savvy.

Posted by: dj spellchecka on June 13, 2008 at 2:33 PM | PERMALINK
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