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July 21, 2008
By: Kevin Drum

McCAIN DESPERATION WATCH....Is the McCain campaign losing it? In an ad today about spiraling gasoline prices, the narrator asks portentously:

"Who can you thank for rising prices at the pump?"

This is accompanied by the picture on the right and background noise of a crowd chanting "Obama! Obama!"

Are they serious? They're going to try to convince the American public that Barack Obama is responsible for $4 gasoline? Or is this one of those pseudo-ads that never really gets aired anywhere and is released just to see if it can get some press attention from suckers like me? Regardless, this is really lame.

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McCain's folks are hoping that the *absolutely* moronic, ready-to-be-fauxified former Bush supporters will just be mindlessly hypnotized and suck this kind of monstrous crap in. Maybe they're trying to associate "opposition to off-shore drilling" with high gas prices *now* which is beneath idiotic. In any case, McCain can no longer claim to be taking a "high-road" campaign - severe idiocy is just as decertifying as nastiness.

Posted by: N B ♪ ♪ on July 21, 2008 at 4:18 PM | PERMALINK

BTW, I want to see this question pressed to the oil and drilling companies: Why didn't/won't you drill more on the land you already have available?!

Posted by: ♪ on July 21, 2008 at 4:19 PM | PERMALINK

Bush got tons of great coverage in 2000 for attacking Clinton/Gore for letting oil go to $30/bbl.

McCain knows that he can toss out anything and it will get reported as fact. Get used to it.

Posted by: John McCain: More of the Same on July 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM | PERMALINK

Is the McCain campaign losing it?

It's even worse than that. Over at TPM, Greg flags a CNN story about the Times telling McCain he needs to redo his homework in order to get himself a little space on their op-ed page. The campaign's response? You'll be shocked to learn that the Republican nominee is claiming bias at the Times.

Will somebody please explain to me how this race is still within single digits?

Posted by: junebug on July 21, 2008 at 4:25 PM | PERMALINK

In the redblooded parts of Murica, they all know anything they don't like is the fault of the liburls. It may play a lot better than you think.

Posted by: bigTom on July 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

Before deciding that the American public is too sophisticated to blame Barack Obama for the price of gasoline, remember that an equally scurrilous advertisement convinced enough voters that Max Cleland was soft on defense and allied with Osama bin Laden.

Posted by: joel hanes on July 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

McCain's campaign is running on fumes already and nothing he's done so far has given him any traction in the polls anywhere. My reaction to the ad was that it made no sense at all, which is all to applicable to McCain's efforts to date.

Posted by: David W. on July 21, 2008 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

junebug: Will somebody please explain to me how this race is still within single digits?

McCain is a war hero. Obama is an effete elitist.
You know this is BS. I know this is BS. The vast majority of commenters here, even those who disagree vigorously on every other damn thing, agree that this is BS. But it still sells, out there in the heartland. I doubt if this is the shoe-in everyone else seems to think it is.

As always, I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: thersites on July 21, 2008 at 4:32 PM | PERMALINK

Why stop with $4 a gallon gas? Why not blame Obama for global warming, declining fish stocks, rising food prices, Katrina, or any number of outrageous things done by the Bush administration?

Yup, I think McCain is being a sissy by only blaming Obama for high fuel prices. Someone with real cojones could add a lot more to the pile.

Posted by: sdh on July 21, 2008 at 4:35 PM | PERMALINK

"Will somebody please explain to me how this race is still within single digits?"

Sure.

"It is good for the leaders that men do not think"
-- Adolf Hitler

Posted by: on July 21, 2008 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK

I doubt if this is the shoe-in

Not shoe. Shoo! Shoo!

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on July 21, 2008 at 4:38 PM | PERMALINK

Exactly, Joel or that a guy with three purple hearts was Jane Fonda sympathizer.

Obama looks like a leader now, looks like the obvious choice and thats exactly where the GOP wants us.

Now the swiftboating begins. Their only weapon is fear, making my jewish mother in law fear that blacks will take over the country or whatever.

Posted by: the fake fake al on July 21, 2008 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK

Quaker,
I knew that. The stupid bronze keyboard forgot, though.

Posted by: thersites on July 21, 2008 at 4:42 PM | PERMALINK

Oh hell, just go for the brass ring! Replace the image of a gas pump with the burning Twin Towers! Geez, who taught these people hardball anyway?

Posted by: steve duncan on July 21, 2008 at 4:45 PM | PERMALINK

Well, ever body knows it's them Muz-Lims owns all the earl. Anni fool know that. Yeh-eh (spits).

Posted by: CT on July 21, 2008 at 4:47 PM | PERMALINK

In Bizarro world, T Boone pickens, oil man who has made billions by selling you that expensive oil, stands in front of a wind farm, claiming he will save us from our oil addiction, while Obama is seen with a fuel pump who has, somehow, morphed into T. Boone Pickens.

Posted by: Jet on July 21, 2008 at 4:54 PM | PERMALINK

If Obama is so powerful he caused $4 per gallon gasoline how does McCain explain the "Obama is inexperienced" charge?

Posted by: pj in jesusland on July 21, 2008 at 4:56 PM | PERMALINK

Their goal isn't to convince Americans that Obama is responsible for $4 gasoline. Their goal is to tear down Obama. It is classical emotional conditioning; Pair a neutral stimulus with something that evokes an aversion response, and soon the neutral stimulus will also produce an aversion response. A month from now, if the ad works, people won't say, "wow, what a desperate move by McCain trying to link Obama and rising gas prices." They'll say, "There's something about Obama that I just don't like. I just don't feel he cares about me."

Tit-for-tat. The Obama campaign should take every possible opportunity to show McCain hugging GWB.

Posted by: PTate in MN on July 21, 2008 at 4:56 PM | PERMALINK

I can't wait for the debates. McCain's looking more and more senile by the day. The debates ought to expose that broadly.

Posted by: Scott Herbst on July 21, 2008 at 4:59 PM | PERMALINK

Dear Senator Obama,

Some free advice. No matter how idiotically McSham speaks during the debate, do not sigh.

Thank me later.

Posted by: thersites on July 21, 2008 at 5:04 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin,

A lot of people will readily believe that $4 gas is a result of environmentalists and Democrats who won't make the common-sense decision to drill more. I'd be interested to see how that belief polled. Since McCain is trying it, I imagine internal polling showed it works.

This is actually a serious threat to Obama's ascendancy on economic issues. Enough that I think he should say that he's willing to compromise with proponents of drilling and open up ANWR in return for:

1) Increased CAFE standards
2) A Mahattan project for alternative energy.
3) Increased funding for mass-transit
4) Some percentage of the oil recovered from ANWR does not go on the world market but is earmarked for Americans (i.e. the SPR).

Degrading the environment for little return is a shame, but Republicans have raised ANWR-drilling to a totemistic level. Obama should use that foolishness and trade ANWR for a host of actions that will benefit the economy and environment.

Posted by: Rock on July 21, 2008 at 5:14 PM | PERMALINK

Will somebody please explain to me how this race is still within single digits? Posted by: junebug

Seriously? Approximately 50% of voters support Bush twice. Look at most of the Republican members of Congress. The three from Washington State haven't had an idea between the three of them in the 6+ years they've been in office together. They can pretty much be guaranteed to vote against anything and everything progressive, humane or rational (not that you get a lot of that even with a Dem majority in both houses).

Posted by: Jeff II on July 21, 2008 at 5:16 PM | PERMALINK

Umm... do you know somewhere that still has gas at only $4 a gallon? Sheesh, if Obama can get me that, it will save fifty cents per.

Posted by: kidkostar on July 21, 2008 at 5:19 PM | PERMALINK

Does anywhere in America still use those old mechanical gas pumps, or is this an indication of clever targeting to the backwoods demographic? The last time I saw a pump that looked like that, I was in Honduras.

Posted by: Ethan on July 21, 2008 at 5:25 PM | PERMALINK

"Who can you thank for rising prices at the pump?"

A weak dollar and the Enron loophole.

Anything else?
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Posted by: Grand Moff Texan on July 21, 2008 at 5:37 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, and Kevin?

There is no "i" in "portentously."

The only reason I know this is because "portentous" was part of the name of a death-metal band I was in over twenty years ago, and we gave up because people kept getting our name wrong.
.

Posted by: Grand Moff Texan on July 21, 2008 at 5:39 PM | PERMALINK

Ethan, it's just another metaphor for the Mavericks' floundering campaign.

Posted by: Sunn O))) on July 21, 2008 at 5:40 PM | PERMALINK

The only reason I know this is because "portentous" was part of the name of a death-metal band I was in over twenty years ago...

And now you go by The Best Ever Death Metal Band Out Of Denton??? Which one are you -- Cyrus or Jeff?

Posted by: junebug on July 21, 2008 at 5:45 PM | PERMALINK

It's true!...I saw Obama changing the signs at my local gas station the other night when he thought no one was looking.

Posted by: Glenn on July 21, 2008 at 5:51 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry. Couldn't resist the Mountain Goats nod.

Posted by: junebug on July 21, 2008 at 5:53 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, you should check this post at TPM:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/another_oildrilling_myth_is_bo.php

"Here's what Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann of Minnesota had to say in an op-ed for National Review, promoting drilling in ANWR:

The fact of the matter is that Congress is standing in the way of $2-a-gallon gas. It is Speaker Pelosi and the House Democrats who are refusing to let commonsense energy legislation come to the floor."

I think it's safe to say that [baselessly] blaming high gas prices on Democrats will soon become a ubiquitous GOP talking point. Sigh. It'd be nice if these lying goons ever seemed to show even the slightest compunction about spewing absolute BS.

Posted by: J on July 21, 2008 at 5:55 PM | PERMALINK

"The people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders. All you have to do is tell them that they are in danger of being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism..."
--Hermann Goering

Posted by: Quotation Man on July 21, 2008 at 5:57 PM | PERMALINK

Uhh, Kevin, weren't you saying something earlier today about how Mencken might finally be wrong this year? Want to rethink that?

Posted by: SocraticGadfly on July 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM | PERMALINK

Mencken won't be proven wrong. The white supremacists in the American heartland will latch onto any meme that permits them to reject Obama on some basis other than the real one: his color.

Posted by: harpo on July 21, 2008 at 6:11 PM | PERMALINK

It's so hilarious to see Republigoons saying Dems are responsible for high gas prices, when a lot of the price comes from speculation (it has to have some effect *on* price not just be a response to it; as Senate testimony has indicated) That speculation is in large part due to regulatory back-downs like the Enron loophole (Gramm, McCain's "adviser") etc. Of course if we had imposed discouragement of population growth instead of Republican-driven encouragement of it (through the child tax credit being offered all the way up to 100k in earnings), there'd be less demand and lower prices. But population growth is both a religious delusion as well as a tool to reduce wages through labor supply.

Posted by: Neil B. ♪ ♪ ♪ on July 21, 2008 at 6:19 PM | PERMALINK

kidkostar: In SE Virginia away from the urban core it's usually 3.98, but it sucks out here for other reasons.

Posted by: ♪ on July 21, 2008 at 6:22 PM | PERMALINK

And what effect has Sen. Obama had on the price of oil these last few years that Sen. McCain has not until he switched his position on offshore drilling . . . 2 WEEKS AGO!

Morons.

Hope the Obama campaign have that flipflop ad lined up for later. By then it should include Iraq. Or is McCain going to tell the Iraqis and the US people he's determined to stay no matter what anyone else thinks?

And I hope they incorporate some humour. You have to laugh at these idiots. And it will be all the crueller for doing so.

Posted by: notthere on July 21, 2008 at 6:24 PM | PERMALINK

Great News!!

This must mean that Obama all by himself can change the gas prices back!

He must be magic.

Posted by: lilybart on July 21, 2008 at 6:38 PM | PERMALINK

The maroons, the 23% that still think Bush is breathing, will believe anything, so an ad like doesn't matter.

Other people will see it for what it is.

Posted by: lilybart on July 21, 2008 at 6:40 PM | PERMALINK

Will somebody please explain to me how this race is still within single digits?

Have you noticed that one of the candidates is black?

Posted by: shortstop on July 21, 2008 at 6:40 PM | PERMALINK

notthere,
That type of ad won't work. Gas prices are hurting people right now. And they want immediate relief. By saying that drilling ANWR and offshore will bring prices down, the republicans are giving people a reason to vote for them. It doesn't matter that the price reduction won't occur until far in the future, if it will indeed occur. People just want to see some relief ahead.
If Obama points out that McCain did a flip flop, I think he'll lose on this. People will think that McCain has changed his vote because he is reacting to "conditions on the ground". They will also see Obama as being too stubborn to give them a fiscal break.

Posted by: optical weenie on July 21, 2008 at 6:42 PM | PERMALINK

Also, by charging McCain with the flip-flop about ANWR, you keep the issue alive, and oil prices are themselves a weak point for Obama. Better to try to do the thing Obaama is good at: rejecting simplistic blame games and talking about real long term solutions.

Posted by: buckets on July 21, 2008 at 7:13 PM | PERMALINK

Also, by charging McCain with the flip-flop about ANWR, you keep the issue alive, and oil prices are themselves a weak point for Obama. Better to try to do the thing Obaama is good at: rejecting simplistic blame games and talking about real long term solutions.

Posted by: buckets on July 21, 2008 at 7:13 PM | PERMALINK

A popular viral email compares statistics in 2006 and statistics now, and says the change is the result of the democratic congress. Lots of elderly people mail it back and forth to one another. It's a killer with the Alzheimer's demographic. So there's lots of context for this ad.

Posted by: Grampa Shitbrains on July 21, 2008 at 7:14 PM | PERMALINK

I think ptate is correct. The GOP is trying to make negative associations between Obama and anything bad (gas prices, terrorism, high taxes) with the flimisiest of justifcations. Not only does this condition voter reactions down the road but maybe -- just maybe -- Obama will make a gaffe enabling the GOP to say, "See! We were right all along."

Of course, Obama wouldn't talk about the troubles along the Iraq-Pakistan border, as McCain recently did. That's not bad, that's just stupid. Stupid presidential candidates (and presidents!) make mistakes just like the rest of us and that's OK. People tolerate & even relate to stupidity, especially when it comes mixed with heavy doses of patriotism and spirituality masked as faux humility.

What a bunch of goofballs Americans are. We want our leaders smart but not that smart. Smart leaders get treated like 7th grade science nerds -- ridiculed mercilessly. People pity the dumb guys in the class -- the ones who finish fourth from the bottom.

Politics just isn't fair.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on July 21, 2008 at 7:14 PM | PERMALINK

I would say that McCain is reaching very deep into the bag to pull something, anything out that will stick to Obama, and repel people.
The unfortunately reality for McCain is that his biggest problem isn't Obama, it's himself.

Posted by: sheerahkahn on July 21, 2008 at 7:15 PM | PERMALINK

We are deep into Goebbels territory here, where McCain and his bunch of morons believe that the more preposterous the charge, the more likely it sticks.

Fascist desperation.

Posted by: POed Lib on July 21, 2008 at 7:37 PM | PERMALINK

Everything we see during the summer is a trial balloon, a test and only a test.

Posted by: James E. Powell on July 21, 2008 at 7:44 PM | PERMALINK

Hey Junebug -

Hail Satan! Hail Satan!

;)

Posted by: lampwick on July 21, 2008 at 8:03 PM | PERMALINK

Is Obama lossing it? Did anybody watch those lawyers at Netroots from the link over at Mr. Greenwald's blog. You got to watch that.

That lie on this FISA bill is too big to bury. It's not going away. It can't go away.

Posted by: Me_again on July 21, 2008 at 8:07 PM | PERMALINK

Is Obama lossing it? Did anybody watch those lawyers at Netroots from the link over at Mr. Greenwald's blog.

What link? You need to at least tell us what post of Greenwald's the link is in if you want people to look at it.

Posted by: Mnemosyne on July 21, 2008 at 8:24 PM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: mhr on July 21, 2008 at 8:45 PM | PERMALINK

Hail Satan! Hail Satan!

And all hail West Texas. Little known fact, lampwick -- the fourth contender, after weeks of debate, was Rosemary's Baby's Milk Teeth.

Posted by: junebug on July 21, 2008 at 8:51 PM | PERMALINK

I obviously do not agree with the republicans, but this is part of their mind control propaganda they usually spew. I recently read an email dated 5/28/08 entitled "Big Oil" authored by Bill Phillips. This is where the propaganda begins its journey.

Posted by: pattywagn on July 21, 2008 at 9:27 PM | PERMALINK

Did McCain hire Shrum to do his ads?

Posted by: reino on July 21, 2008 at 10:03 PM | PERMALINK

there was a McCain float in our county fair parade and their message was "McCain will give you gas for $2.49, but Obama as president will mean $7.99 for a gallon of gas= who will you vote for?"

what a bunch of crap...

Posted by: andyvillager on July 21, 2008 at 10:26 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain is going to get annihilated in November.

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on July 21, 2008 at 10:29 PM | PERMALINK

Eventually, someone has to say enough horse shit, and just sue them for slander as part of a massive class action on behalf of American citizens. The media won't do its job--they are all surge-slobbering Gannon-gobblers.

There is no art in their lies any more. Has Diebold given our tyrannical leaders so much confidence they lack any imagination at all?

Posted by: Sparko on July 21, 2008 at 11:33 PM | PERMALINK

Are they serious? They're going to try to convince the American public that Barack Obama is responsible for $4 gasoline? Or is this one of those pseudo-ads that never really gets aired anywhere and is released just to see if it can get some press attention from suckers like me?

Well, if we're not out there telling as many uninformed people as we can that the ad is wrong, people will believe it. This is the type of thing they would try to turn the election around with, and as a country we deserve the government we get if lies like these really are the brick and mortar that determine who get picked to be our leaders.

Posted by: Swan on July 21, 2008 at 11:48 PM | PERMALINK

It's the link where the lawyers are talking about how Obama will fix things back the way they were once he gets into office. Lawyers talk about not impeaching Bush as a way to correct things, the Dems didn't allow even the FISA Bill to go forward, which of course would have brought Bush to accountablity if the 30 felony counts were know in press and media, more than just the 1 min slot on Olbermann.

It's a really awful, I mean, there is alot more to Bush than just his wiretapping and torture, not that those acts are not bad enough for Bush and Cheney to be impeached but what about those unbid contracts. Has anyone listen to those congressional hearings on C-Span. There has already been 13 military deaths simply due to electrocutions from bad wiring done by KBR who completely indifferent to their deaths obviously. And Bush was seen playing golf again the other day AFTER saying he would gave it up for dead troops members. Bush's is really a nasty guy who's criminal actions are massive in many ways. And Dems are just going to let this administration skate on everything EVEN after Obama just lied for AT&T and Verizon - least that is what the lawyers are saying in this meeting, like, there is different plain for congress people.

It just makes me sick. Here is the link to the netroots lawyers meeting - the bloggers ask all the right questions. It's this awful two-tiered system that Mr. Greenwald talks about. It's like the live in a different dimension because here we have all these dead Americans, all this evidence that Bush has lied and done awful things - it's no big deal to these lawyers.

You really need to listen to whole thing twice to get the brute force of it, and it is brutal.

If Obama has choosen to surround himself with people like Cass Sunstein, that I think we don't really know much Barak Obama at all, and it is looking worse all the time.


Posted by: Me_again on July 22, 2008 at 12:26 AM | PERMALINK

The Village blowhards are just looking for a negative frame for the Obama campaign. This kind of stuff is shopping the meme.

Posted by: Eric on July 22, 2008 at 12:31 AM | PERMALINK

If Obama has choosen to surround himself with people like Cass Sunstein, that I think we don't really know much Barak Obama at all, and it is looking worse all the time.

Barack Obama is for real, but he's just fallen victim to the machine, which is really sad. It's not that uncommon, or anything- it's the problem we're facing.

I think it's kind of annoying though if Barack Obama supporters are going to choose his change (if it really happens) to start believing that there is a lot of creepy stuff going on out there, and then wrongly accuse him of being a covert Republican when he's really just getting intimidated-- kind of like blaming the racket after a bad tennis play (kind of like, "I didn't support Barack over Hillary because I was too dumb to figure things out, I supported him because he was bad and he tricked me.").

I think a big problem with all the corruption out there is we're facing something totally unprecedented-- we're living in a society with a huge middle class, so if the Nazis show up here, it's a lot more the case that people don't feel motivated to resist them because people have so much to lose. So long as the Nazis are smart enough not to push people too hard, everyone's saying "Why should I give them a hard time-- why don't I let someone else do it?" Having a soft touch (like not letting racism and media control become too overt too quick) really helps their game. This is the face of American fascism. It's probably not a new phenomenon, though, it's just more common than it was in Nazi Germany.

Posted by: Swan on July 22, 2008 at 12:57 AM | PERMALINK

It's probably not a new phenomenon, though, it's just more common than it was in Nazi Germany.

That is, keeping their cards close / trying to stay in the shadows or to cultivate a benign appearance, and the cowardice of well-to-do victims are not entirely new, but it looks a lot different this time because these characteristics are more pronounced in America than they were in other places where ultra-conservatives have tried to seize control of everything.

Posted by: Swan on July 22, 2008 at 1:01 AM | PERMALINK

Also if people are expecting that Obama should expose shit if he's getting pushed around-- it's pretty ridiculous that people who themselves are too cowardly to do much would expect Obama to make a different self-interest calculation than they do or to guess that the conservative threats are bluffs.

Posted by: Swan on July 22, 2008 at 1:05 AM | PERMALINK

And everybody knows Obama is a closet Muslim who can't wait to knock that ham sandwich out of your hand.

Posted by: deejaayss on July 22, 2008 at 2:19 AM | PERMALINK

Can Joe Sixpack have beer with Juan Cole, who knows Iraq and the middle east inside out? No, of course not, 'cos they will feel stupid due to their ignorance. But can they have beer with Bush, who is equally stupid? Or how about McCain, who is announcing that he is stupid (by not knowing important differences between sunnis/shias; claiming geo ignorance by creating a iraq/pak border in his mind; and now blaming Obama for gas prices) enough to sit down and have beer with.

That is the essence of McCain's campaign. Being dumb and stupid worked for Bush. It will work for me too. Why kill brian cells trying to keep up with facts and reality when that has little bearing on electability?

Posted by: rational on July 22, 2008 at 3:17 AM | PERMALINK

Scott: Don't get your hopes up about the debates. The ones in 2000 exposed Bush as a smirking moron, but the press meme afterwards was that Gore was a big meanie because he rolled his eyes.

Ditto 2004: Bush (even with the aid of electronic devices) showed himself for the idiot he is, but Kerry was "cold."

Posted by: sullijan on July 22, 2008 at 9:24 AM | PERMALINK

I hate to make this election about intellectualism vs. anti-intellectualism (remember Adlai Stevenson), but crikee here we are.

McCain is a self-avowed ignoramous on the economy, so he surrounds himself with the likes of Phil "Mental Recession" Gramm making himself look even dumber. He doesn't know the difference between shias and sunnis and he cites problems on the Iraq-Pakistan border as evidence that Obama is not prepared to lead the military (this while Obama is talking to Karzai and Maliki).

When the media calls McCain on his ignorance his campaign managers turn it into charges of liberal media elitism. Americans tend to pity and forgive stupidity. Pity wins votes. But Americans hate elitists almost as much as they hate Osama bin Laden. Just ask Teresa Heinz Kerry (and John, for that matter).

Obama has address this without turning himself into another Adlai Stevenson, and an African American Adlai Stevenson at that. Americans like humor -- maybe some more humor on the campaign trail? Not patronizing GOP humor, but the natural kind that shows understanding and confidence.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on July 22, 2008 at 9:30 AM | PERMALINK

ARE THEY LOSING IT? They have a sad, old geezer for a candidate...his brain farts daily (and, NO, he's not funny) show the loss of ability we'd have to deal with YET AGAIN...and still he is not accountable for anything...sound familiar...right about now I'd vote for anyone who promises to break up the media consolidation that has helped (along with deregulation and GREED) to bring a once proud country to it's knees!!!

Posted by: Dancer on July 22, 2008 at 9:48 AM | PERMALINK

You ask: Or is this one of those pseudo-ads that never really gets aired anywhere and is released just to see if it can get some press attention from suckers like me?

I can attest that it is showing in New Mexico on a pretty heavy rotation ... 3 times a half-hour during local and national news, plus occasional other appearances.

BO is still just doing Hope and Bio ads that never mention JMcC or the R's. In contrast, this is JMcC's second negative ad in the state.

Posted by: Eric in Santa Fe on July 22, 2008 at 9:53 AM | PERMALINK

It's even worse than that. Over at TPM, Greg flags a CNN story about the Times telling McCain he needs to redo his homework in order to get himself a little space on their op-ed page.

Well, to be fair, the Times doesn't seem to require the same of Brooks, MoDo or Kristol...

Posted by: Gregory on July 22, 2008 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK

"A month from now, if the ad works, people won't say, "wow, what a desperate move by McCain trying to link Obama and rising gas prices." They'll say, "There's something about Obama that I just don't like. I just don't feel he cares about me.""

Ding ding ding ding, we have a winner. At least according to this here article I just finished reading and which is strangely on target for your comment. Basically, it seeks to explain a standard paradox in political opinion research - how people can be understood in the aggregate to vote for the 'right' choice at times even though, when asked in surveys, they prove to be shockingly ignorant of specifics. The authors challenge this model by positing that people make affectational judgments upon encountering candidate information but then drop the specifics, leaving only the judgment behind. Similarly, the GOP is hoping that the broad based smears on Obama will insinuate themselves into enough brains, even when accompanied by faulty logic and facts, so that later, when those specifics are forgotten, they can just issue cues to elicit the affective judgment (Obama=bad/foreign/etc) that can then be voted on.

Posted by: Josh R. on July 22, 2008 at 11:20 AM | PERMALINK

Well, to be fair, the Times doesn't seem to require the same of Brooks, MoDo or Kristol...

Touché, Monsieur Pussycat.

Posted by: junebug on July 22, 2008 at 12:01 PM | PERMALINK

How is this race still in single digits.Last week ABC CBS and NBC witheld polling results that showed a huge gap (may be in the 10-15 point range.They decided to can the results and reword the questions to get the desired results 3-5 point lead for Obama.$%%$%%$!!!

Posted by: johnJohn on July 22, 2008 at 12:35 PM | PERMALINK

johnJohn, please put in a link etc. about how you found this out, it should be seen and despised all over.

Posted by: ♪ on July 22, 2008 at 12:58 PM | PERMALINK

Media matters and TPM both had articles about this last week I will see if i can find out witch day it was.back soon...

Posted by: johnJohn on July 22, 2008 at 1:05 PM | PERMALINK
there was a McCain float in our county fair parade and their message was "McCain will give you gas for $2.49, but Obama as president will mean $7.99 for a gallon of gas= who will you vote for?"

what a bunch of crap...

Given that gas prices are (regardless of policy) likely to go up, with only minor and very temporary reverses, until gasoline is no longer used as a fuel, McCain may be making a very shrewd opening to his 2012 campaign.

Posted by: cmdicely on July 22, 2008 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK

The wife and I saw this ad run on television. We both lost our minds laughing. It's ludicrousness is pretty obvious and the wife is nowhere near being in the tank of Obama.

Posted by: The Critic on July 22, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

I have been wondering about McCain "losing it" as well. Yesterday, TPM had a montage of McCain on the news that made my jaw drop. He was such a sorry mess – his talking point (he just had the one) was lame and his delivery suggested even he didn’t believe it. It must be demoralizing for an old warrior to find himself facing off against this much talent/smarts/timing.

Nate Thurmond, the basketball Hall of Famer, tells a story about the night, late in his career, when he looked up and saw a young Julius Irving coming down the court at him. “I could see it in his eyes. I wasn’t going to be able to stop him.” - Obama must look like that to McCain. And Bill Clinton, too. I think it throws them off their game. Anyway, that's my theory.

Posted by: Victoria on July 22, 2008 at 8:20 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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