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July 24, 2008
By: Kevin Drum

YET MORE McCAIN....As the sun was setting in Berlin on Barack Obama's big speech, John McCain stepped out from Schmidt's Sausage Haus in Ohio to rebuke his opponent:

I would rather speak at a rally or a political gathering any place outside of the country after I am president of the United States. But that's a judgment that Sen. Obama and the American people will make.

Jeez, could he be any more transparent? Why not just carry a big blinking sign saying "Barack Obama Isn't A True American Patriot"? I mean, I realize we're in the silly season and all, but as Atrios says, this criticism is head scratchingly weird. Non-presidents give speeches outside the country all the time.

And yeah, I realize I've been posting an awful lot about McCain campaign trivia lately. But the guy's really been on a helluva roll the last few days, hasn't he?

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I love Schmidt's Sausage House!

Posted by: Steven Donegal on July 24, 2008 at 5:53 PM | PERMALINK

Petulant as a PUMA. Nothing to offer except pure peevishness.

Posted by: shortstop on July 24, 2008 at 5:55 PM | PERMALINK

Several of the nuttier regions of the blogosphere have already made the comparisons to Nuremburg in 1934. Hoo Boy! This is going to be a long campaign season. I'm still waiting for Willie Horton, Part II to appear.

Schmidt's has great cream puffs.

Posted by: Just a Dude on July 24, 2008 at 6:01 PM | PERMALINK

McCain campaign trivia lately

McCain campaign drivel 24/7.


What's a "PUMA" again?

Posted by: ckelly on July 24, 2008 at 6:02 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks, Kevin.

On the contrary, I enjoy your recent play-by-play of McCain's thought-terminating cliches and logical fallacies.

Posted by: paxr55 on July 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM | PERMALINK

Schmidt's has great cream puffs

And at least for today, one giant flake.

Posted by: ckelly on July 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM | PERMALINK

Atrios used a vulgarity.

Vote Grandpa Simpson!

Posted by: John McCain: More of the Same on July 24, 2008 at 6:05 PM | PERMALINK

Good thing McCain didn't do any campaigning or political events outside the country. It would be embarrassing if we found out he had attended political events in Columbia or Canada recently.

Posted by: danimal on July 24, 2008 at 6:08 PM | PERMALINK

If you're in Columbus, stop for the Sunday buffet. Really good if americanized german food.

The creme puffs are very good.

McCain is just whining. He is complaining about Obama giving speeches in foreign places, when he did that himself 3 weeks ago - 1 in canada, 1 in columbia.

What a total asshole.

Posted by: POed Lib on July 24, 2008 at 6:08 PM | PERMALINK

McCain has been on a terrible role for a while now, but the simple calculus of American politics states that he can basically pork farm animals on national television, and he can automatically count on 40% of the vote, at least. That's what is so dangerous about these elections. Even people as god awful as George W. Bush and John McCain can win them. All they have to do is avoid pederasty, and they have a good shot.

So I dunno. We shouldn't get complacent. A lot of people didn't think Bush would win in 2000 or 2004 because he was such an incompetent baboon, but he was our president for 8 years.

Posted by: BombIranForChrist on July 24, 2008 at 6:09 PM | PERMALINK

McCain spoke recently in Canada. Mexico and Colombia. Has he forgotten? Is he confused or just a liar? Does he care? Do we?

Posted by: Mimikatz on July 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM | PERMALINK

I'm a hard core Dem and Obama supporter, but I'm not all that thrilled with this Berlin speechifying. It strikes me a wee bit arrogant. It's not going to change my vote, and may not make any difference in the election, but it strikes me as kind of weird and inappropriate.

Posted by: SFMike on July 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM | PERMALINK

I would rather eat sausage I can get than filet mignon that I can't. And all grapes that are out of my reach are most certainly sour and bad for your digestion to boot.

Posted by: Delia on July 24, 2008 at 6:14 PM | PERMALINK

Two hundred thousand Europeans cheering an American politician and waving the star-spangled banner. Oh, the outrage...

Posted by: allbetsareoff on July 24, 2008 at 6:16 PM | PERMALINK

On the contrary, I enjoy your recent play-by-play of McCain's thought-terminating cliches and logical fallacies.

As do I. McCain's not offering anything but bilge; the idea that it's unseemly to discuss his constant missteps, errors and scramblings is...well, just petulant. You are covering what passes for a campaign in Camp McCain. Should he come up with a coherent thought or a cohesive policy, I'm sure you'll cover that as well.

Posted by: shortstop on July 24, 2008 at 6:17 PM | PERMALINK

Obama: Speech before 200,000 in Berlin
McCain: Lunch at the Sausage Haus

Kinda says it all, don't it?

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on July 24, 2008 at 6:20 PM | PERMALINK

Might be too late for tongiht's Daily Show, but would be an amusing "Compare and Contrast"...

Posted by: on July 24, 2008 at 6:21 PM | PERMALINK

If McCain keeps this up, instead of using the inane "My Friends" in his talk, he's going to have to use "My Friend".

Posted by: RobertSeattle on July 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM | PERMALINK

Can I suggest this picture to accompany this post?

Posted by: southpaw on July 24, 2008 at 6:25 PM | PERMALINK

Petulant as a PUMA. Nothing to offer except pure peevishness. Posted by: shortstop

So, he's wearing a push-up and stiletto heels?

Cougar, puma, same thing.

Posted by: Jeff II on July 24, 2008 at 6:26 PM | PERMALINK

This entire trip I have had the feeling that McCain is truly steamed. It is like Obama has really, really gotten under his skin. He has personally made statements that no Presidential candidate should ever make. He has had his surrogates make even crazier statements. They have sent out silly videos to reporters. They have called his "press pool" the jv team.

My theory is that McCain is just about to totally lose his composure. McGrumpy might blow his stack for good any day now.

Posted by: Ron Byers on July 24, 2008 at 6:26 PM | PERMALINK

time to inject a little reality with regard to Reagan's Berlin speech, which was nowhere near as good or bold as Kennedy's--from Kos--

In short -- no one was paying any attention to Reagan. Far from bringing out a thronging horde, Reagan's second visit to Berlin was barely noticed either by the press or the populace. There were no crowds on the street. No one even thought of climbing a tree to see him.

At the Brandenburg Gate, the streets weren't choked by hundreds of thousands eager to listen. Instead, about 20,000 Reagan supporters were brought in for the occasion, positioned to provide a backdrop, and prompted to cheer. When the speech was over, they were bused home.

In 1963, Berlin was looking to Kennedy to show that Berlin would not be allowed to fall to communism. In 1987, communism was near the end of a two decade collapse, and Reagan's speech was a media event made for America, not Berlin. It was staged as much as pulling down the statue of Saddam. What he said was little noted by the people of Europe, and had no effect on the end of communist control. Only in retrospect, and in the minds of Reagan's fanatical supporters, did the speech gain mystical connotations.

the only thing anyone remembers about Reagan's speech was one line, and it was neither poetic nor inspiring. Of course, there weren't many people there to inspire aside from Reagan sycophants.

Posted by: haha on July 24, 2008 at 6:28 PM | PERMALINK

Election snark aside, is it me or does John McCain look and sound like he's in pretty bad shape? I know he's 71 years old and he's survived cancer and torture and he's basically been campaigning nonstop for 12 months...but he really looks unwell.

SF Mike, is it arrogant of Obama to give a speech to 200,000 people who voluntarily show up? Shame on him for taking advantage of his own power to inspire! The nerve.


Posted by: The Lucky Sea Men on July 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM | PERMALINK

Wow, there are a lot of spittle-flecked pixels flying from Kevin lately.

Strangely, they are notably absent at The Corner, despite Kevin's unsubstantiated assertion.

Posted by: a on July 24, 2008 at 6:31 PM | PERMALINK

Strangely, they are notably absent at The Corner, despite Kevin's unsubstantiated assertion.

apparently you can't read all the posts from those morons that he's been copying here--typical Republican conservatard, can't read, can't think.

Posted by: haha on July 24, 2008 at 6:39 PM | PERMALINK

Barack Hussein Obama is a true American patriot?Posted by: mhr

Maybe. Maybe not. I don't give a shit since the term patriot has been so badly degraded by people like you over the last seven years. I just know that he's a hell of a lot smarter than the stupid fucker in office now and the pathetically unqualified Rethug hoping to take his job.

Posted by: Jeff II on July 24, 2008 at 6:43 PM | PERMALINK

Lost in all the patronizing punditry, cautioning us all to be incredulous of the "foriegn" speech, was how enormously important and stabilizing Obama's effort proved. We have global problems, including climate instability, food shortages, oil shortages, and roiling wars. In the midst of these gargantuan challenges, America has been intellectually isolationist for EIGHT years. Stunningly stupid and selfish in our disregard for the rest of the planet. To help restore some confidence at a crucial time, Obama needed to deliver the message he did today exactly where he did it. The world will not wait for us to develop real leaders. We will be a desperate nation bereft of friends. Kind of like New Orleans must have felt under Bush.

Posted by: Sparko on July 24, 2008 at 6:43 PM | PERMALINK

Small man, big mouth.

Posted by: Swan on July 24, 2008 at 6:51 PM | PERMALINK

Apparently, given his acumen for geography, McBoob doesn't realize that Colombia, Canada and Mexico are outside the U.S.

Just another ignorant Rethuglican jackoff!

Posted by: jackything on July 24, 2008 at 6:53 PM | PERMALINK

What BombIran said. We can't get complacent.

ss: ...the idea that it's unseemly to discuss his constant missteps, errors and scramblings ...

Not unseemly so much as repetitious, and distracting. Yes, the man regularly makes a fool of himself. It's funny sometimes. Remember how amusing Bush's idiocies were in 2000? Are we still laughing at those?

Posted by: thersites on July 24, 2008 at 6:59 PM | PERMALINK

McSame gave a speech in Canada during his last trip to some economic group according to First Read.

Posted by: terrsa on July 24, 2008 at 7:08 PM | PERMALINK

He was in Mexico and Columbia last month too.

Posted by: Bub on July 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM | PERMALINK

Some McCain staffer will be along soon to translate what the StraightTalker really meant to say.

Posted by: AJB on July 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM | PERMALINK

Presumably, McCain would rather be speaking on the deck of an oil rig. But alas, said oil rig, having suffered an oil spill just before McCain's visit became 'inconvenient' for McCain's 'no risk off-shore drilling' policies.

It's almost like Mother Earth herself has conspired against McCain. Not like anyone will pay attention...

Posted by: raff on July 24, 2008 at 8:15 PM | PERMALINK

Didn't McCain just make several speeches in foreign countries like Colombia and Mexico, so WTF?? Just because he has all of the charisma of a moldy dog turd, doesn't mean he should diss Obama for doing the same things he does. I thought these conservative assholes were always the ones chirping about "politics stops at the water's edge"? Fugging hypocrites!

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on July 24, 2008 at 8:36 PM | PERMALINK

I don't think the sheer volume of coverage is a good indicator of wehter or not it's helping said candidate. McCain can kvetch all he wants about how much coverage Obama is getting overseas, the point is his campaign could never sustain the glare from that kind of spotlight. Seems he can do or say anything, appear anywhere and is given a pass by the main stream press. He can change his positions, hone his statements, forget/confuse facts, garble on and on about nothing and no one seems to bat an eye. If Obama forgets to shake one hand or kiss one baby it's some sort of indication of a deficiency of his character. I'm a big Obama supporter and I'd love to see McCain getting more press and as soon as possible.

Posted by: ADelena on July 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM | PERMALINK

My friends, our neighbors to the north and south hardly constitute foreign countries, insomuch as we are all amigos and amis [pause for creepy grin] here. And I had a good reason to be in Colombia. I was never in Colombia. My visit to Colombia was taken out of context. Colombia, gem of the ocean, is a staunch supporter of human freedoms. Here, try the ribs.

Posted by: shortstop on July 24, 2008 at 8:54 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin,

That McCain quip which you look down upon is the kind of thing that wins elections. And McCain is winning the election. He is making the charge that Obama is arrogant and unpatriotic and that charge is going unrebutted. Look at what the poll numbers do next week. I don't know how you can be so disconnected from a country that elected Bush twice, but what you are seeing is McCain winning not failing. Unless Obama can paint McCain as unprepared (attack the opponent's greatest strnegth), unprincipled, and continuing failed economic policies he will lose. Obama needs to stop "appearing presidential" and attack.

Posted by: Rock on July 24, 2008 at 9:20 PM | PERMALINK

I saw a part of McCain's interview and after he made that quote, Kelly O'Donnel tried asked a follow-up question to get him to elaborate on or explain it. Instead, he repeated himself word for word. It was pathetic and really makes me wonder what world the wingers are living in when they try to suggest that Obama is the one that can't speak without a teleprompter

Posted by: tanstaafl on July 24, 2008 at 9:21 PM | PERMALINK

Of course Obama is a true American patriot ! No campaign photographers, no visit to wounded troops.

Posted by: Mike K on July 24, 2008 at 9:41 PM | PERMALINK

don't liberals ever get tired of ginning up claims that republicans are attacking the patriotism of their guy? It is so silly.

Posted by: on July 24, 2008 at 10:19 PM | PERMALINK

McCain didn't actually win the Republican primaries. He was the last man standing in a system that gave him victories with 36 percent of the vote. That system benefitted Bush against better qualfified repukes in 2000, but it carried the risk of nominating someone as unqualified as he is with half the charm.

McCain is going to fold under the pressure. He's an old man, suffered torture as a young man, and doesn't have the stamina for the marathon he let himself into. One could feel sorry for him. I'm not.

Posted by: knut wicksell on July 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM | PERMALINK

"McCain spoke recently in Canada. Mexico and Colombia"


I don't think those qualify as real countries in conservative mind set...

Posted by: benmerc on July 24, 2008 at 10:35 PM | PERMALINK

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
--Samuel Johnson

Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on July 24, 2008 at 10:36 PM | PERMALINK

don't liberals ever get tired of ginning up claims that republicans are attacking the patriotism of their guy? It is so silly.

Posted by: on July 24, 2008 at 10:19 PM

Oh yes, we liberals are just so oversensitive.

We think that Ben Stein comparing Obama's nomination acceptance speach to 'something the Fuhrer would have done' or this turdblossom from Redstate are hysterical, overblown and just a little bit despicable.

Whereas John McCain and the Republican's are so manly and thick-skinned that they would never think to whine about Wesley Clark's remarks being a personal attack on John McCains military service, compare them to the Swiftboat attacks against John Kerry and then get Bud Day from those Swiftboat attacks to defend John McCain.

Posted by: tanstaafl on July 24, 2008 at 11:05 PM | PERMALINK

Hmm. I thought it was funny that McCain would say such a thing after visiting Mexico and Colombia recently.
But after reading half a dozen blog posts and dozens of comments (geez, man, get a life!), I finally understood what he said:

...would rather speak at a rally or a political gathering...

I don't remember him at a rally or political gathering in either country. He gave several speeches, but not at the kind of *venue* as Obama. Perhaps the subtle nuance of that statement makes him correct and incorrect at the same time.

Anyway, I don't expect him to be the Republican nominee. He's just a placeholder until the convention.

Posted by: springfielder on July 24, 2008 at 11:46 PM | PERMALINK

Just to give a small impression: In the 80s I lived in Kreuzberg, a district of around 100.000 people close to the center of West-Berlin. Because of low price housing there were a lot of students and other people leaning to the left living in that area. Quite a few of them wanted to protest against the Reagan visit and his policies (mainly because of nuclear weapons). As a security measure West-Berlin police closed down the whole district without notice and did not allow anybody under 30 years of age to leave the district for abaout two hours. All the bridges crossing the canal were blocked by police. There was an outrage the next day because nobody had seen such an anti-democratic measure since 1945. The area were Reagan held his speech was not open to the public anyway.
Now Obama: Not counting the contents of his speech, just the fact, that around 200.000 (mainly young) people went to listen to Obama on their own will yesterday means just an enormous change of Berlin/US attitudes.
I bet, McCain would not even draw one tenth of this amount of people in Berlin, they probably would have to carry somme supporters of Angela Merkels party and give them sandwiches and beer for free.

Posted by: emil ruebe on July 25, 2008 at 3:03 AM | PERMALINK

Damn! Too many Columbusites or at least people who know about Schmidts! And to think McCain was standing where I did many years ago...

It shows McCain has good taste buds, but still no brain.

Posted by: Bryan Price on July 25, 2008 at 4:11 AM | PERMALINK

I would rather speak at a rally or a political gathering any place outside of the country after I am president of the United States.

Of course. McCain the candidate speaking in Berlin will draw 500 spectators, 200 of whom will be there to throw eggs.

Posted by: ogmb on July 25, 2008 at 6:26 AM | PERMALINK

Two corrections:

1) He was standing in front of a sign that said "Fudge Haus," even though he reportedly ate at the Sausage Haus."

2) The quote you cite came from a 7/24 NBC interview. The quote from the Fudge Haus is virtually illiterate, and bears only a passing resemblance to wither English grammar or the more coherent version that you cite.

Posted by: jhm on July 25, 2008 at 6:38 AM | PERMALINK

I don't remember him at a rally or political gathering in either country. He gave several speeches, but not at the kind of *venue* as Obama. Perhaps the subtle nuance of that statement makes him correct and incorrect at the same time.

Well, but the still subtler nuance is that he couldn't convince 10 people to gather to rally him if he were paying them, taking the choice out of his hands entirely. So he's back in Camp Loser.

Posted by: shortstop on July 25, 2008 at 7:30 AM | PERMALINK

The Trash Talk Express

Posted by: kevin k on July 25, 2008 at 7:35 AM | PERMALINK

McCain to Media: I Think You're Fucking Morons

Posted by: TR on July 25, 2008 at 8:46 AM | PERMALINK

Am I the only one who's noticed how McShame plants his little feet, delivers his line, and then plasters on the "Aren't I just the cutest thing" grin on his face...remind you of anything? HEH, HEH, HEH

Posted by: Dancer on July 25, 2008 at 8:55 AM | PERMALINK

McCain Memo: 'Respectful Campaign':

Throughout the primary election we saw John McCain reject the type of politics that degrade our civics, and this will not change as he prepares to run head-to-head against the Democratic nominee...Overheated rhetoric and personal attacks on our opponents distract from the big differences between John McCain's vision for the future of our nation and the Democrats'...Throughout his life John McCain has held himself to the highest standards and he will continue to run a respectful campaign based on the issues.

Posted by: croatoan on July 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM | PERMALINK

Kevin wrote: "I've been posting an awful lot about McCain campaign trivia lately."

McCain's remarks are not the spontaneous mumblings of some old coot. They are carefully focus-group-tested, crafted and scripted by highly-skilled experts in propaganda and media brainwashing techniques -- the best that money can buy.

And they are part of the fabric of propaganda being woven by the corporate-owned mass media and the right-wing extremist media in collaboration with the McCain campaign and the RNC on behalf of their common owners, America's Ultra-Rich Ruling Class, Inc., who want Their Man McCain to be the next president to continue the CheneyBush policies of government of, by and for right-wing extremist corporate billionaires.

We will see in the next three months a replay of the media glorification of George W. Bush and character assassination of Al Gore and John Kerry that made the 2000 and 2004 elections close enough for the CheneyBush gang to steal them with voter disenfranchisement and fraud.

And when John McCain is sworn in as president in January 2009 following the third very close, "disputed" election in a row, many Democrats who refused to learn the lessons of those elections and spent much of this campaign wondering "when will the media start to call McCain out on his BS" will be very disappointed.


Posted by: SecularAnimist on July 25, 2008 at 10:13 AM | PERMALINK

This is how John McCain will win the election. He will paint Obama as another John Kerry -- Ivy-league educated, arrogant, effeminate. He will portray himself as a simple ordinary American. Obama speaks in paragraphs, and white, lower-middle class voters don't like that, especially from a black guy. This is how McCain will win Ohio, Penn. and Michigan. This strategy has never failed the GOP.

McCain will also win Florida by casting doubt in the mind of Jewish voters about Obama's commitment to Israel.

McCain's election will be a tragedy for this country.

Posted by: g. powell on July 25, 2008 at 10:16 AM | PERMALINK

I'm betting you've got one out of four right, g. powell. McCain will win Florida.

Posted by: shortstop on July 25, 2008 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK
I don't remember him at a rally or political gathering in either country. He gave several speeches, but not at the kind of *venue* as Obama.

McCain doesn't make speeches at the kind of venue as Obama in the US either. McCain has trouble gathering anyone interested in hearing him speak. But the speeches McCain has made outside of the country have been political speeches to political audiences. Smaller audiences, in less open venues, but the first is typical of McCain and the second typical of Bush-era Republicans in general: they speak only to their pre-screened supporters, no matter where they are.

Posted by: cmdicely on July 25, 2008 at 10:54 AM | PERMALINK

Wow. Some Dems sure have short memories.

The Repubs run the same flag wavin', tax cuttin', bible thumpin' POTUS campign every four years.

OF COURSE, Obama hates America.

Posted by: Dood on July 25, 2008 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK

More McCain? No, thank you. Please no more.

Posted by: slanted tom on July 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM | PERMALINK

I love the juxtaposition: Obama speaks to 200,000 people in Germany; McCain speaks to a handful people in a German restaurant.

-Z

Posted by: Zorro on July 25, 2008 at 11:47 AM | PERMALINK

Funny, he certainly didn't have that sentiment when Lord Rothschild (yes, of THAT family) held a fundraiser for him in London last March

http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/british-lord-hosting-fundraiser-for.html

Posted by: Kevin on July 25, 2008 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

Zorro wrote: "Obama speaks to 200,000 people in Germany; McCain speaks to a handful people in a German restaurant. "

McCain doesn't need to speak to hundreds of thousands of people. McCain has the corporate-owned mass media speaking to tens of millions of people on his behalf.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on July 25, 2008 at 11:55 AM | PERMALINK

McCain doesn't need to speak to hundreds of thousands of people. McCain has the corporate-owned mass media speaking to tens of millions of people on his behalf.

Stipulated. However, those same tens of millions of people see the same juxtaposition.

-Z

Posted by: Zorro on July 25, 2008 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

Seriously, I thought the story was something out of The Onion when I read about it on the BBC page yesterday.

All that was missing was McCain saying, "Neener neener", after his little pissy comment about how he'd like to make a speech as president, so there.

Posted by: sara on July 25, 2008 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK

I believe that it was McCain who hounded Obama to go on this foreign trip in the first place - remember the 'why won't Obama visit Iraq' phase of the McCain campaign a few weeks ago?

• Now that Obama did visit Iraq, he managed to help set in motion a chain of events that has resulted in the first timetable for US withdrawal - McCain should be careful of what he demands from Obama for the balance of the campaign!

• As many have pointed out, McCain also made some foreign visits/speeches of his own recently, so the hypocrisy of McCain's feigned outrage is thereby doubled

Posted by: Snewt on July 25, 2008 at 1:37 PM | PERMALINK

I believe that it was McCain who hounded Obama to go on this foreign trip in the first place - remember the 'why won't Obama visit Iraq' phase of the McCain campaign a few weeks ago?

• Now that Obama did visit Iraq, he managed to help set in motion a chain of events that has resulted in the first timetable for US withdrawal - McCain should be careful of what he demands from Obama for the balance of the campaign!

• As many have pointed out, McCain also made some foreign visits/speeches of his own recently, so the hypocrisy of McCain's feigned outrage is thereby doubled

Posted by: Snewt on July 25, 2008 at 1:38 PM | PERMALINK

The Sausage and Fudge Hauses are parts of the same family enterprise, but how funny was it for McSame to be talking with "Fudge" behind his head?

Fudging the facts again but advertising it this time, eh, Johnny?

Posted by: Cal Gal on July 25, 2008 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

snewt at 1:37 explains how the McCain campaign wins this argument. LOL:

it was McCain who hounded Obama to go on this foreign trip in the first place - remember the 'why won't Obama visit Iraq' phase of the McCain campaign a few weeks ago?

Now that Obama did visit Iraq, he managed to help set in motion a chain of events that has resulted in the first timetable for US withdrawal

See, John McCain was responsible for the successful withdrawal of troops from Iraq. Such subtle diplomacy!

Posted by: springfielder on July 25, 2008 at 4:19 PM | PERMALINK

Remember during the primaries when the GOP establishment pretty much settled on McCain and bullied Romney, Huckabee, and everyone else out of the race. I can actually envision a draft movement at a political convention for the first time in my adult life.

Posted by: aline on July 25, 2008 at 6:44 PM | PERMALINK

Surprised that McCain didn't make campaign stops at the International House of Pancakes while Obama was away.

Posted by: bob h on July 27, 2008 at 7:41 AM | PERMALINK
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