August 8, 2008
JOHN McCAIN AND THE LOW ROAD....This is an old story, but sometimes the old ones are the best, aren't they? It starts in 1988, following the impeachment of the loathsome governor of Arizona, Ev Mecham — a man whom John McCain had publicly called on to resign a few months earlier. In Arizona, an impeached governor is replaced by the Secretary of State, which in this case turned out to be a Democrat, Rose Mofford, a woman with a bright white beehive hairdo who had quietly overseen Arizona's elections for decades and had no ambition for higher office.
A few days after she was sworn in Mofford headed to Washington for a largely ceremonial visit but, to her surprise, was ambushed at a congressional hearing by Idaho's James McClure, who ran her around in circles with a series of complex questions she plainly wasn't yet able to answer about CAP, Arizona's main water project. Why embarrass her this way? Longtime Arizona reporter Amy Silverman tells the story:
Coincidentally, that very same day, Pat Murphy, then publisher of the Arizona Republic, was also in Washington to meet with the delegation. He and his wife had lunch plans with McCain, and as Murphy recalls, they went to the hearing room where Mofford was testifying, to meet up with him. Murphy had written glowingly of McCain and considered him a personal friend.
As Murphy recounted in an e-mail recently (he left the Republic many years ago, and now lives in Idaho), the incident crushed him. He says it was the beginning of the end of his respect for and friendship with McCain.
...."During lunch, McCain said, almost with mischievous glee, that he had slipped some highly technical questions to [James McClure] to ask Mofford — questions she wouldn't be prepared to answer or expected to answer.
"Flabbergasted, I asked McCain why would he want to sabotage Mofford's testimony, when in fact the CAP was the nonpartisan pet of Republicans and Democrats — such as far-left Udall and far-right Goldwater — since its inception.
"His reply, as near as I remember, was, 'I'll embarrass a Democrat any time I get the chance.'
"The lunch continued in strained chit-chat. We then walked back to McCain's office, where a few reporters, all of them from Arizona papers, as I recall, were waiting. One said there was a rumor McCain had tried to sabotage Mofford's testimony, to which he said something like, 'I'd never do anything like that.'"
Just good clean fun! McCain was hoping to recall Mofford for no special reason — he just didn't want a Democrat serving out Mecham's term — and videotaping the ambush was all part of the plan. Needless to say, denying his involvement was all part of the plan too.
Like they say, politics ain't beanbag, and McCain didn't do anything illegal here. (Mofford served out the rest of Mecham's term when Arizona's Supreme Court scotched McCain's recall plans.) But you might want to keep this story in mind when you read all those furrowed-browed accounts about how straight talkin' John McCain is so plainly uncomfortable with the negative direction that his advisors have taken his presidential campaign. Turns out McCain might be enjoying the low road a little more than he'd like you to think.
Much more here. Mark Kleiman's clip-n-save version is here.
—Kevin Drum 2:03 PM
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McCain is starting to remind me of two other fighter pilots who went to Washington, except, unlike Cunningham, McCain had the good sense to marry someone rich, so he doesn't have to nick people for a few thousand dollars for votes. He seems to have the same joy in petty humiliation that Bush has. Other fighter pilots I've met have been good guys. I wonder what happened to these three.
Posted by: anandine on August 8, 2008 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK
Sen. Charles Grassley (R) of Iowa, who has been bullied by John McCain in the past, has reportedly said, "The more you get to know him (McCain), the less you like him".
I know this is true with me. How about with you???
Posted by: The Conservative Deflator on August 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM | PERMALINK
TCD: "The more you get to know him, the less you like him".
I know this is true with me. How about with you???
I asked some of my co-workers and they said yes, it's true with me.
Posted by: thersites on August 8, 2008 at 2:26 PM | PERMALINK
Sen. Charles Grassley (R) of Iowa, who has been bullied by John McCain in the past, has reportedly said, "The more you get to know him (McCain), the less you like him". Posted by: The Conservative Deflator
As Grassley is a piece of work himself, that's saying a lot if it's true.
Posted by: Jeff II on August 8, 2008 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK
You know that old Beach Boys song? How about that old Pink Floyd song they wrote about my opponent?
"We don't need no tire-inflation,
We don't need no winning polls.
No Dem orgasms in their chat-rooms:
Preacher, leave them kids alone.
Hey, Preacher, leave them kids alone!
All in all he just a guy with some balls...
All in all he just a guy with some balls."
Posted by: John McCain on August 8, 2008 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK
I have suspected for quite a long time now, and McCain's actions just this past week while onstage at Sturgis, have confirmed for me that McCain is a misogynist.
The respect he has demonstrated towards females in the past, and now this, have tipped over into the category of sleazy, slimy, and lecherous old white male with masculine identity issues.
Posted by: Helen Rainier on August 8, 2008 at 2:40 PM | PERMALINK
can we ship mcstain back to the Hanoi Hilton for some remedial education? he obviously did not learn a gd thing there. other than to be a watb. jeebus.
Posted by: The Spin We're In on August 8, 2008 at 2:42 PM | PERMALINK
"I'll embarrass a Democrat any time I get the chance."
Now there's a campaign slogan that would rally the GOP base behind him.
Sigh, if only McCain still felt that same way now, instead of agreeing with them on a whole host of issues and becoming a embarrassment to the party.
Posted by: Chicounsel on August 8, 2008 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK
I find this story highly suspect Kevin. It's very difficult to believe that McCain could provide technical questions to anybody.
'I'll embarrass a Democrat any time I get the chance.'
Alas, poor John has been embarrassing himself and the GOP ever since.
Posted by: ckelly on August 8, 2008 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK
Chico, you really are a piece of work. Please don't breed.
Posted by: trabekian on August 8, 2008 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK
Still, let's not forget that John McCain has a comprehensive economic plan that will create millions of good American jobs, ensure our nation's energy security, get the government's budget and spending practices in order, and bring relief to American consumers.....
Posted by: Stefan on August 8, 2008 at 2:51 PM | PERMALINK
McCain really has the Navy Tailhook mentality.
The New Times has been on his case for years. This is a nice 2000 campaign piece on him and his benafactors.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2000-02-17/news/haunted-by-spirits/
Posted by: Fnord on August 8, 2008 at 2:53 PM | PERMALINK
but Obama's people are going to make absolutely sure no one takes her seriously. And you sit around wondering who could have leaked to Green.
The Obama campaign has access to internal Clinton campaign e-mails? I think not. Try again.
Posted by: Shine on August 8, 2008 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK
No surprise. McCain has shown he is desperately dishonest too, not just by hiring a Rove-ite but through his recent energy price ad smears against Barack Obama. McShame is dishonest enough to put out an ad implying that people like BHO were responsible for the high gas prices today. Well, first that's hypocrisy because McCain opposed OSD for years until recently too. Mr. Fake Talk Express has implied that he, McCain, was always for off-shore drilling - But McCain just changed his mind several weeks ago, only a few weeks before Obama.
Second, it's a lie because the core reason for the recent oil price rise is rising consumption - we and citizens of other countries are responsible for our own gluttonous appetites, not environmentalists. If we'd followed the advice of the latter, such as strict CAFE standards opposed by Repiglicans, the price of gas would be maybe a dollar lower not the few cents someday from OSD.
(BTW - let's allow some off-shore drilling but only *on condition* that the oil from such wells *must* be used directly in the USA! - See how they like them apples ...)
But here's the clincher: I found out from a piece in .The New Yorker that McCain used to be called "punk" in his youth. Then he marries the narcotics-stealing woman he had an affair with - see, Republican family values as the icing for his partisan hackery. The S**t-talk Express.
Posted by: Neil B. on August 8, 2008 at 2:58 PM | PERMALINK
About time the Arizona press is heard from! Chicago reporters are getting all kinds of air time, but up to now nobody from Arizona who knows anything about McCain's operation there. I wonder why?
Posted by: Altoid on August 8, 2008 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK
I had the honor of voting against McDodo in his first election to the House, when he ran for long time Republican Rhodes' seat. After Mofford's term as governor the people of AZ elected Fife Symington, who also won reelection before he had to resign after being convicted of impropriety over some loan documents he was truthy on. Symington was also a S & L officer, like Keating, who oversaw the looting of government guaranteed deposits for dubious and high risk investments. Despite McNasty's relationship with Keating and lack of good works, Arizona voters still keep reelecting him. The election of Mecham, who created quite a controversy with his public use and then defense of the word pickaninny, and the reelection of Symington, while his trial was ongoing, demonstrates the strict Republicanism of AZ voters and why they will offer their electoral votes to the Republican in November.
Posted by: Brojo on August 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK
... in 1988, following the impeachment of the loathsome governor of Arizona, Ev Mecham — a man whom John McCain had publicly called on to resign a few months earlier...
Just so we're clear, McCain didn't experience some sort of epiphany about Mecham, or about the issue of race. McCain had absolutely no problem with Mecham, or with Mecham's outspoken bigotry, particularly as related to Mecham's intransigent opposition to a holiday honoring Dr. King. McCain, after all, voted against that bill as a US Representative in '83. After winning the governorship of Arizona in '97, Mecham's first official act was to rescind the previous governor's (Bruce Babbitt's) executive order establishing the holiday. McCain said Mecham was right to do so.
The only reason McCain called on Mecham to resign was because he'd become a liability to the state's business community. Industry conventions were taking a pass on Arizona, and the NFL yanked the Super Bowl from Tempe -- each taking their events places where folks had less primitive views on race. McCain's call for Mecham's resignation had nothing to do with any kind of enlightened attitude. Lest we forget, McCain was trumpeting the virtues of the Confederate flag as recently as '99.
Posted by: junebug on August 8, 2008 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK
I have suspected for quite a long time now, and McCain's actions just this past week while onstage at Sturgis, have confirmed for me that McCain is a misogynist.
The respect he has demonstrated towards females in the past, and now this, have tipped over into the category of sleazy, slimy, and lecherous old white male with masculine identity issues.
Posted by: Helen Rainier
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You really can not hold him accountable for this, it is not his fault he has a small penis.
Posted by: JoeSixPack on August 8, 2008 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK
And those criticizing negative campaigning may be a wee bit disingenuous. If their candidate has negative characteristics making him vulnerable, then negative campaigning is unfair.
Or are we saying Obama is too big a pansy to defend himself? Do we want a pansy for Commander-in-Chief?
Or are we saying the American sheeple are too stupid to make democratic choices?
Posted by: Luther on August 8, 2008 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK
Let's not forget that during the Republican primaries McCain stated unequivocally that "Democrats want to surrender to al Qaeda." He is a mendatious reptile who is not fit to hold any public office, let alone the presidency.
Posted by: CT on August 8, 2008 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK
Luther, the American people might do OK on their own, but with the idiots in the MSMemia misdirecting them, they can't very well make good choices.
BTW, I suppose you meant, negative campaigning is unfair if the target *doesn't* have negative characteristics? If the converse, it strikes me as fair unless "mean."
Posted by: Neil B. on August 8, 2008 at 5:30 PM | PERMALINK
Well in that case how about asking McCain some question on middle east strategy?
The last time I suggested a question for McCain he had just talked tough to Russia about Georgia. I suggested asking him where he expects to get the troops to back up the couple of US troops already in Georgia if things go wrong. I worried US brazenness towards Russia might lead to trouble. (That and US training and funding for the Georgian army which went from nothing to what looks like a serious army) Unfortunately my suggestion was not picked up.
Maybe I will have better luck this time.
Senator McCain, you have suggested that under your strategic leadership Iraq will be more stable in 2013. Can you elaborate on what this stable situation would look like and what you would do to achieve this.
The regional election plans hit a snag, if you were president today, would you be pushing for regional elections? If so there might be dangerous militias in Basra, Baghdad and Ramadi at the time of the elections, who would you want to kick out, and how?
Who would you say has a better chance of securing Basra, the Iranian trained and supported Badr brigades or the popular anti-Iranian Jaish-al Mahdi movement? Would you be glad to see the anti Iranian movement win big in the local elections?
Who would you like to see in charge of Ramadi before and after the regional elections? Would you be okay with Militia of members of Saddams former Baath party ruling the streets of Ramadi at the time of elections? Would you be okay with insurgents that are responsible for the deaths of many US soldiers winning the elections here?
How fast do you think the oil of the relativly stable Kirkuk should be on the market to benefit Americas Kurdish allies and allow the economy of the most secure part of Iraq to blossom? Would you join Richard Perle (or whatever GOP heavyweight loves hunt oil more than a stable Iraq) in his call for this oil to be on the Market ASAP?
Well you get the drift. There are plenty of questions that McCain should be able to answer of the top of his head since he has a plan to secure Iraq in four years time.
This night my thoughts will be with the people left in Tskhinvali who are stuck between the US and Russia. I hope that 30 years from now we do not learn that Bush approved this violence just before leaving office provided it is wrapped underneath the Olympics coverage. I hope the white house does not see this as a way of still getting Georgia into NATO over the wishes of the rest of the world.
Here you can see the EUCOM people bragging about how great the Georgian army will be.
Posted by: ios on August 8, 2008 at 7:29 PM | PERMALINK
"There is no reason for any Clinton staffer to reveal this stuff without the concurrent motive to embarrass Clinton -- "
Or some deep-down Clinton staffer/believer who wants some payback against a genius or two who sabotaged the campaign with equals parts of ego and incompetance.
Look and see who comes off worst in the leaked memos and you'll know who's being targeted.
Posted by: Steve Paradis on August 8, 2008 at 10:55 PM | PERMALINK
(BTW - let's allow some off-shore drilling but only *on condition* that the oil from such wells *must* be used directly in the USA! - See how they like them apples ...)
I may misunderstand what you're saying, but what I think you're describing is actually how it's done now. All oil produced from offshore federal leases (all currently in the Gulf of Mexico, AFAIK) must remain in the US. I think there's an exception for limited in-kind transfers (e.g., an operator can trade 1000 barrels produced near Mexico for export to Mexico in exchange for 1000 barrels transferred at, say, Tiajuana) but that amounts to a few dozen thousand barrels a year.
Posted by: Mark on August 9, 2008 at 1:41 AM | PERMALINK
It starts in 1988, following the impeachment of the loathsome governor of Arizona, Ev Mecham
Perhaps parsing a peripheral topic of this post, but I take exception w/your (and generally "popular" characterization) of Meacham.
A little backround...
At the time Meacham was elected, the Phoenix area (eg: Maricopa county... Tempe, Gilbert, Mesa etc.) was by far the dominant economic driver of Az. It was also massively dysfunctional. Going back to (at least) the mid-70's, +/- 90% of the Maricopa economy was dependent on 2 primary sources:
* new home construction
* significant R/D & manufacturing presence of Motorola
That was it! Otherwise, a few malls, mom & pop shops providing the basics... but no diversity of sustainable economic base.
The new home industry was overwrought with fraud, fueled largely by corrupt politicos. Essentially...
* a) developers greased necessary pols hands for Carte Blanche expansion into the nearest empty desert
* b) no planning and/or financing for services (utilities, future water needs, reasonable cost of land)... eg: over and over, developers were given tract property for near nothing. Hey, it would create jobs and "growth" so why not, right?
* c) Phoenix/Maricopa advertised nationwide to attract buyers to "Valley of the Sun" developments. They poured in. And the majority of 'em were construction workers building these cracker boxes (quality was terrible).
* d) said projects would exhaust themselves, construction jobs would end, huge % of the project's homes were bought by now unemployed trades people who couldn't make payments, so the inevitable foreclosure/firesale cycle ensued sending Maricopa county economy into the pits.
Generally, this cycle averaged about 36 months, repeating itself at least 15 times through the late '80s. Boom & bust!!! As went the Maricopa economy, so did the state of Az. Every 3 years, the state went broke. The politicians & bankers, entirely corrupt. Charles Keating was the only banker who got busted, but there were many others fueling what, essentially, was fraud.
Fast forward to the election of Meacham. He made his $$m's w/a bunch of Pontiac dealerships... certainly not a confidence building resume. He campaigned on diversifying Az's economy. He promised to bring investment into diversified sectors. And, lo & behold, he was doing it!!! Trips to Asia & Latin America in particular were beginning to bare fruit, and this was precisely what Maricopa & Az needed. Ok, so far so good.
A nationwide movement to establish a holiday for Martin Luther King began, certainly a good thing. The Az. legislature proposed funding this holiday, giving state employees a paid day off. This, during one of the "bust" cycles when the state was broke.
At this time, people of color were not seen in Phoenix: it was lily white. There was a small enclave, just south of the Salt River, where these folks lived. This area was run down rental property, and most of 'em worked in agriculture... mostly the "orange belt" right next to this squalid near slum. There were many, many slum lords who owned this real estate who go rich doing so. And most of the whitey's living out of sight had no idea the area existed.
Meacham opposed this state funded holiday... said the state couldn't afford it. The local paper (Az. Republic/Gazzette) had a couple reporters who went after Meacham relentlessly, day after day, accusing him of being a racist. National "rights" groups added their support to this effort. And somehow, the question: how does another paid holiday for +99% of white state employees honor MLK?... got lost in the shuffle.
A massive protest by these employees who wanted a free pay-day and nothing else, morphed into a symbol of Meacham's racism... it steamrolled unchecked until his impeachment.
The holiday went through, became law. The tenements continued many years as housing for 99% of Phoenix's people of color. And it wasn't until mid-90's that Maricopa County joined the 20th century, diversifying an inbred economy that took them nowhere but bust'n boom.
I watched this episode unfold, and was most certainly in the minority w/POV as I've described. I'm lily white caucasion. I lived there through entire '80's, worked in the trades & had a moderately successful small biz. I also had a couple of "blacks" for the "not seen" zone work for me nearly this entire period, and they were the only 2 "coloreds" I ever saw on construction sites in Maricopa county through those years.
Meacham got screwed. He was doing what no other state politician, for decades, had the balls and/or foresight to execute. And these efforts were sorely needed. I never saw him as "loathsome", and in fact he overcame my skepticism of his credentials/motivations w/focused actions.
Just my $.02 (actually, now $.0136 on world market and falling fast!!!)
Posted by: jdmckay on August 9, 2008 at 8:10 AM | PERMALINK
I'm tired of McCain's lies and half truths. I’m trying to turn the tables on the McCain folks and their stupid tire gauge stunt. I’m having gauges made and selling them on eBay in hopes of raising $2300 for Obama (the max contribution). If you are down, can you please forward this on to other like minded folks. Thanks!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110277515563
Posted by: gate on August 9, 2008 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK
Poor lady, being tortured by McCain.
Posted by: Redeye on September 10, 2008 at 1:42 PM | PERMALINK
good i like it..
Posted by: 100ice Community on September 26, 2008 at 10:47 AM | PERMALINK
Great post,
Thank you very much.
Posted by: cuocthiseo on January 6, 2009 at 2:55 AM | PERMALINK
Yeah I agreed on you, it's very sad to know that she is being tortured by McCain. Hope someone will help her.
Posted by: How to start a nursing agency on March 3, 2009 at 6:37 AM | PERMALINK
Even this is just an old story still it has been a part of the story. Thanks for sharing this one.
Posted by: Sikat ang Pinoy on January 12, 2010 at 5:19 AM | PERMALINK