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August 29, 2008

MCCAIN/PALIN '08.... There's a political adage that's been around for a while that says the first "presidential decision" a candidate makes is picking a running mate. If that's the case, John McCain would apparently be a very odd president.

Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain has chosen Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, NBC News has learned.

She would be the first woman ever to serve on a Republican presidential ticket. The pro-life Palin would also be the first Alaskan ever to appear on a national ticket.

Palin, 44, was elected Alaska's first woman governor in 2006.

Every network confirms it; this is the actual Republican ticket for 2008: McCain/Palin.

It's more than surprising; it's the strangest running-mate decision since Dan Quayle. Sarah Palin spent a year working as a commissioner for the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, and has been governor for a year and a half. Now, she'll be the Republicans' vice presidential candidate, and if things go well for McCain, one heartbeat from the presidency. When it comes to being untested and unknown, Palin is in a league of her own.

Just yesterday, advisers to the McCain campaign conceded to the New York Times that McCain "thinks highly" of Palin, but "her less than two years in office would undercut one of the McCain campaign's central criticisms of Senator Barack Obama -- that he is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief." So much for the McCain campaign's message.

Stepping back, we have the man who would be the oldest president in American history, who happens to have a record of health problems, picking a virtual unknown who's been a governor for less than two years. Amazing.

McCain communications chief Jill Hazelbaker told CBS News this morning that McCain is going to "make the choice from his heart." That seems even more bizarre -- McCain barely knows Palin, hasn't worked with her in any capacity, and hadn't even asked her to serve as a campaign surrogate at any point in the process. For all the talk about McCain valuing personal relationships above all else, McCain has practically picked a stranger, to himself and the rest of the nation.

This strikes me as a tremendously desperate move on McCain's part, which is unlikely to go over well. More soon.

Steve Benen 10:55 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (201)

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Well, I think I shot down that whole Obama-celebrity thing with the Palin-Beauty Queen thing!

Posted by: John McCain on August 29, 2008 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK

Flop sweat.

Posted by: TR on August 29, 2008 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

Who needs experience when you've got breasts?

:)

This is just the type of gimmick that the media LOVES!

Posted by: Nashville_fan on August 29, 2008 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

Perhaps he had to choose her because nobody else wanted the job.

Posted by: just guessing on August 29, 2008 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK

It seems really short sighted- grab the news today, and then what? McCain, I think, is in big trouble. Could it be that no one wanted to be on this ticket?

Posted by: stasera on August 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM | PERMALINK

Yeah, but all those millions of Hillary voters who FLAT-OUT REFUSE to vote for Obama will now run to McCain/Palin because she's a lady...

Ah, Republicans... Thanks for the Labor Day comedy routine!

Posted by: rusrus on August 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM | PERMALINK

PRESIDENTIAL PRECEDENT

NEWSWIRE--With John McCain's selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate, voters will elect either the first black president or the oldest elected president and the first female vice president.

Is it race, sex or age? That's a mystery.
But superlatives can be unpleasant:
Although someone's assured to make history,
They can still make a mess of the present.

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Light verse, ripped from the headlines

Posted by: Kevin on August 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM | PERMALINK

Is she related to Michael Palin of Monty Python? She should be good for some laughs.

Posted by: Speed on August 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM | PERMALINK

One of the objectives all along was to distract the press away from Obama's speech. Mission accomplished.

Posted by: smiley on August 29, 2008 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

Aww, I so wanted it to be Michael Palin. *That* would be change I could believe in.

By the way, isn't "Change we can believe in" poor grammar? Shouldn't it be "Change in which we can believe?" :)

Posted by: Misplaced Patriot on August 29, 2008 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

Hil-ar-i-ous! Supporters of Barrack "Jay Gadsby" Obama whining about a candidate with all image and little experience? The only thing the Democratic nominee has ever run is his mouth. (And for the next office, of course.) Even his strongest supporters can't come up with a single substantive accomplishment for their guy. You are the ones who made having a pretty face and a compelling personal story enough to move into the White House. Live with it.

Posted by: Pat on August 29, 2008 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

Obviously...this is a ploy to get the allegedly disgruntled Clinton supporters. She will get creamed by Biden in the debates.

Posted by: Lisa on August 29, 2008 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

on paper, it makes sense:
1) she's a woman - if maccain believes there is enough mad HRC people out there, he can hopefully get them to vote for a woman cause she's a woman
2) Alaska was looking less than certain, and three electoral votes may be all it takes for Obama to win. Mccain has to thread such a narrow needle to pull this off, keeping AK is actually that important.
3) the house thing totally blew up in his face, and Romney could not be chosen. Pawlenty is unknown and probably not helpful, and lieberman would have been hari-kari
4) she's young, and apparently relatively talented as a politician

of course, lots of things make sense on paper: communism, the laffer curve, my plan to retire at 35...

Posted by: nerpzilla on August 29, 2008 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

No, I think the media is going to run in the opposite direction. They know it's intended to manipulate them (announce day after Obama's speech, and make it a WOMAN, hahahaha, they can't ignore that, historical choice, etc.)

And while the media has cheerfully been manipulated for a long time, they hate it when it's so obvious. And that worm has been slowly turning over the last few months.

And the "we love McCain" bus has started to leave the station over the last two weeks, and McCain isn't noticing (did you read the Time Magazine interview -- they really made it a point to discuss his prickly and abrasive manner).

I think this is going to backfire in a big way.

Posted by: Z. Mulls on August 29, 2008 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

Looks like I can finally get rid of my prescription for Ambien.

Posted by: ohollern on August 29, 2008 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

According to Wikipedia, she has done well for the State of Alaska, but that's not a representative state by any means, this is clearly supposed aimed to get the PUMAs on his side.

Good to note: McCain loves young and pretty. If she had blond hair and lots of $, she could be wife #3!

Posted by: r_m on August 29, 2008 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

Chuck Todd on MSNBC is already giving Palin a pass for her ethic trouble because he says she was just protecting her sister.

And he has already portrayed Joe Biden as a bully that can't "beat up on her.

Uh oh.

The McCain immunity has just been extended to his lady friend.

Posted by: Nashville_fan on August 29, 2008 at 11:04 AM | PERMALINK

Obama picked Joe for foreign policy heft and to appeal to whites. John picked Palin for reformer/outsider cred and to appeal to women.

The choices are strangely symmetrical.

McCain will suddenly be a champion for women. With the snap of a fingers he can now say things like "It's time to take the 'men only' sign off the White House."

Shrewd. Unexpected. This will be a hard-fought campaign.

Posted by: mk on August 29, 2008 at 11:04 AM | PERMALINK

She has a four month old baby with Down's syndrome...why in the world she would want to spend the next two and a half months on an airplane as part of a doomed VP run is beyond me.

It really does seem like a desperate pick. Someone will have to ask her in the VP debate if she shares McCain's opinion of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay act proposed legislation.

Posted by: jibeaux on August 29, 2008 at 11:04 AM | PERMALINK

Offbeat choice, and I sense McCain figured he had to do something bold to get his base energized. But will an economically conservative, pro-gun, anti-abortion woman genuinely appeal to the Hillary crowd? Probably only to those who supported Clinton solely because of her gender, and there aren't many of those.

Posted by: Vincent on August 29, 2008 at 11:05 AM | PERMALINK

Who needs experience when you've got breasts?

Geebus. Do we really need the misogyny?

Her problem isn't that she's a woman or that she's attractive. Her problem is she's on the wrong side of the issues and a complete unknown. I guess if we go back to the "warm bucket of spit" model for VP, the choice makes sense. But the importance of that role has been increasingly significanct since Gore.


However, I will borrow your construction for a McCain critique that attacks his "experience":

Who needs temperament and judgment when you have a wattle?

Posted by: lobbygow on August 29, 2008 at 11:05 AM | PERMALINK

In fact, its arguably a good pick in part because Joe Biden will NOT be able to beat her up too much.

Posted by: Pat on August 29, 2008 at 11:05 AM | PERMALINK

The one thing we must all remember is that this Veep is very likely to become president.

Are you frightened yet? You bloody well should be!!

Talk about unqualified, untested, not able to be president. McCain is 72 flipping years old and THIS VP MAY VERY WELL BECOME OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!

Christ, I'm feeling ill.

Posted by: MsJoanne on August 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM | PERMALINK

This is too good to be true.

Biden will frag her mercilessly.

Posted by: MsMuddled on August 29, 2008 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK

This is a much stranger pick than Dan Quayle. Quayle had been a congressman/senator for twelve years when picked to run with GHW Bush. Maybe it's the strangest VP pick EVER.

This undercuts McCain's argument of Obama's inexperience, totally and completely. The oldest president ever (at 72) needs a credible running mate. If Palin had decided to run for president, she would have been laughed out of the building.

Wow! This is great news.

orange

Posted by: OkieFromMuskogee on August 29, 2008 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK

Oh, I see. NOW we're worried about someone being qualified to be in the White House. Got it.

Posted by: Pat on August 29, 2008 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK

In fact, its arguably a good pick in part because Joe Biden will NOT be able to beat her up too much.
I thought women wanted to be on an equal playing field.

Posted by: msw on August 29, 2008 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK

She's Fox News Ready.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on August 29, 2008 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK

after last night, the obama campaign is set to kill her with kindness. they can welcome her to the race, and welcome the republican party to the 21st century, and then return to noting that the ideas she represents are proven failures and not the change we need.

in the bigger scheme of things, had theresa laporte designed a better ballot in palm beach, we could argue that lieberman tipped the 2000 race to gore, and in making that argument, we would be identifying the only post-world war ii race where the veep choice made a winning difference.

PS. and even on the losing side, the only veep choice that helped croak a ticket was mcgovern's pick of eagleton, and he wasn't going to win anyhow.

Posted by: howard on August 29, 2008 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! Maybe he's chosen her "from the heart" because he couldn't have used any other criteria. This is great news and proves McCain doesn't really want to be elected. I think, after last night, even he's voting for Obama.

Posted by: Frak on August 29, 2008 at 11:10 AM | PERMALINK

The Alaska/Hawaii exotic state rivalry just got a lot more heated.

Posted by: lampwick on August 29, 2008 at 11:10 AM | PERMALINK

"McCain barely knows Palin..."

And he desperately hopes we don't know her either, or won't come to know her.

Posted by: Lukeness on August 29, 2008 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

Palin, somewhat of a whistleblower, helped put an end to Stevens 'bridge to nowhere'. This COULD help explain why the Rove DOJ [snark] is going after Stevens.

Posted by: Jet on August 29, 2008 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

msw, WE do. But it is not widely accepted.

And you're bordering on my giving you a hearty Fuck You...just sayin'.

Posted by: MsJoanne on August 29, 2008 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

Obama delivers a speech of vision, maturity and vision. McCain's responce: stunt casting. Practically speaking, will anyone be comfortable with a 72 year old President who looks like walking death who's Vice President is an ethically challenged hack from Alaska with no practical experience?

Biden will pick his teeth with her bones at their debate, and he's charming enough to look nice doing it.

Extremely pro-life...that certainly lure female votes away from Obama.

In a time of true crisis we have on one hand one of the most inspiring candidates in recent memory, on the other we have pathetic political vaudeville. Is there really a choice?

Posted by: Saint Zak on August 29, 2008 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

lobbygow,

As a proud owner of breasts myself, I am certainly not trying to be a mysogynist.

I'm just trying to figure out what does she bring to the ticket OTHER than her breasts - or her femaleness - not that there's anything wrong with that!

Do we want Palin meeting with Putin was my point - guess my humor may have missed the mark.

Posted by: Nashivlle_fan on August 29, 2008 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

Nashville_fan is right. An old man and a "girl". You can't beat up on either one of them.

That's Just What I Said

Posted by: Dale on August 29, 2008 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK

...AND her husband is connect to big oil. Perfect, perfect.

Posted by: Saint Zak on August 29, 2008 at 11:13 AM | PERMALINK

Correction:

PUMA = Palin understands my angst.

"Looks like I can finally get rid of my prescription for Ambien"

That's some funny stuff there ohollern! Snarkety snark! Biden will cream her and Obama will pwn McSame. I feel better too!

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 11:13 AM | PERMALINK

Well, msw, I certainly support that. By all means, let Hairplug Joe unload on the pretty governor with the downs syndrome baby. Make sure he flashes that creepy smile he has between broadsides. Should work out just fine.

Posted by: Pat on August 29, 2008 at 11:14 AM | PERMALINK

This strikes me as a tremendously desperate move

Desperation is right. No one else wants to go down with McCain's ship.

Posted by: MsMuddled on August 29, 2008 at 11:14 AM | PERMALINK

What in the hell is Kay Bailey Hutchison babbling about on MSNBC? They didnt even give their hacks the talking points!!

Posted by: Jonathan on August 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK

Somebody who fired a subordinate for not firing her ex-brother-in-law? How Nixonian can you get? John McCain has his Dick Cheney.

Posted by: Aaron on August 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK

Bwahahahahahahahhahhahahahahhahaha...

AHHHHHAhahahhahahahahhahahahhaha...

Whew--

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHhahahahhahahhahahha!

Posted by: McCain/Who?? '08 on August 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK

lets see, Obama's age and even less experience. that takes away the young and inexperienced argument McCain had been making.

if Hawaii isn't really a state, as the right seems to argue, Alaska ain't any better.

after 8 years of turning the country over to Oilmen, and getting nothing but record gas prices out of it while Exxon gets record profits, we now get a woman tied to Big Oil whose only real experience is on the oil and gas compact commission?

this is like stealing candy from a baby. McCain grossly overestimates the number of hardcore PUMAs, and this pick is an admission of a desparate need to try a game-changing move before it is too late - that they are too far behind to take a safe but non-newsworthy pick like Pawlenty.

he'll get a brief bump out of this, and then they got nothin. no one has ever heard of her, Alaska's issues are not like those in any other state, she has had no practice on this big of a stage, and some on the right will recoil at (a) any woman on the ticket and (b) a woman with 5 kids taking this on. And I doubt her husband will be as much help as a surrogate as Jill Biden.

Bold, unexpected and I can see why they did it; I just dont think it will work.

Posted by: zeitgeist on August 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK

I really think they are throwing this one away ...and hoping that Obama will have difficulty cleaning up the Bush mess.

Posted by: John R on August 29, 2008 at 11:17 AM | PERMALINK

Pick a laughable unknown from the most corrupt state in the Union.

Brilliant!

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 11:17 AM | PERMALINK

Wow, according to the news analysis he seems to have picked Palin because she is attractive and her choice is most likely to take away attention from Obama's speech. Can there be a more obvious case in point that Republican only care about politics and don't give a damn about effectively governing the nation?

Posted by: Shalimar on August 29, 2008 at 11:18 AM | PERMALINK

Her problem isn't that she's a woman or that she's attractive. Her problem is she's on the wrong side of the issues and a complete unknown.

Posted by: lobbygow on August 29, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Funny, isn't it how the same thing can be said about the One. lol

Posted by: Chicounsel on August 29, 2008 at 11:18 AM | PERMALINK

I agree with everything that you've said. She's the pick that scares me the most, because I'm unsure of how they'll go after her. But we're less than 80 days away from the election. Unless she is a Meryl Streep-like actress, it's going to be a very, very tough sell for her to look presidential. There's light experience, and then there's almost no experience. She fits the latter. She is, as you said, in a league of her own. But since I'm not yet paid to worry about this, since they've been right about all of their moves thus far, I'm not going to lose any sleep over this.

Posted by: Brian on August 29, 2008 at 11:18 AM | PERMALINK

George H.W. Bush didn't have any trouble manhandling Ferraro. Of course, the media was on his side.

Posted by: sj on August 29, 2008 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK

Ooh la la! That McCain just loves the ladies!

Stewart and Colbert must be jumping up and down for joy.

Posted by: Lucy on August 29, 2008 at 11:20 AM | PERMALINK

I don't think a McSame supporter really wants to compare creepy smiles with anyone

Posted by: short fuse on August 29, 2008 at 11:20 AM | PERMALINK

There was an episode of News Radio where the eccentric billionaire Jimmy James ran for president. His ulterior motive was to get his name out there and pick up women. Somehow, this reminds me of that episode. You know, if I were McCain's wife, I'd be very nervous.

I can sort of see the logic. She's young, which helps with the "Angry old man" vibe that McCain has. She's a woman, which might help with the disaffected HRC die hards. McCain's obviously banking on his experience balancing out her inexperience. This still looks like a dumb choice to me.

Posted by: Diogenes on August 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK

Andrea Mitchell cracks me up!

She's telling Bill Burton from the Obama campaign about the woman who brought some tea to the hotel room thought Obama was "too mean" to John McCain and now she's still undecided. (Funny how John McCain can say ANYTHING he wants about Barack Obama - and no one is bothered in the least! )

You can't make this stuff up!

Posted by: Nashville_fan on August 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK

Biden will frag her mercilessly.

I doubt it for two reasons.

1. He cannot be sen to be bullying a young woman. I know that is a pretty archaic attitude but that is the reality of modern gender relations.

2. The bar will be set pretty low for her and it is really pretty unlikely that she won't exceed expectations. The truth is that all the experience stuff is nowhere near as important as people make it out to be and that doesn't expose itself in an actual debate. Anyone who is intelligent and reasonably well briefed will hold their own in a foreign policy debate just fine. I don't know much about Palin but I suspect she is pretty bright. So if we (meaning Democrats) go into the debates with the expectation that she is going to make some sort of a fool of herself than we will lose the expectations game badly and that is really all that matters in terms of electoral perceptions.

The same is true for McCain by the way. If we bank on him falling flat in the debates, we are likely to be greatly disappointed. It never, ever works that way. Even if he tanks, the media won't play it that way (see Bush v. Gore and Bush v. Kerry).

Don't fall for it. Its fool's gold.

Posted by: brent on August 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK

McCain's pick of Palin, a woman with very little executive experience, a woman who has approved a 26 billion dollar oil pipeline to Canada instead of the United States shows that McCain's decision was made from an adlolescent place of "I'll show you mentallity" instead of one of wisdom and judgment and will be a disaster! Maybe McCain really is senile and confused and incapable of making sound judgments in light of the fact that he is 72 years old and has health issues and if something was to happen to him, this 44 year old woman would be in charge of the highest office in the land with the many huge problems facing us today, because when it comes to doing the people's business, it is not a game but serious, deadly business. If she was Qualified, that would be different but she is not and that is the bottom line. Not to mention that his argument that Barack has no experience And Is not Ready is out the door, his strongest argument against Barack.

However, in this evil ploy to pull Hillary women from Barack with no consideration as to whether or not this woman has the ability and experience to lead the United States here and on a world scale shows a very adolescent way of thinking and as McCain's first executive decision, a disaster!

Posted by: Angellight on August 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK

Talk about your big government programs. If she moves to Washington, will she miss out on her government check just for being an Alaskan? Did they make the announcement on the Exxon Valdez II? Will she be the Silly Walks Czar? (oops, wrong Palin.)

The jokes write themselves.

Posted by: ajw_93 on August 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK

Why does this remind me more of a Ferraro "just because she's a woman" pick than anything else?

Maybe he's trying to recreate the Mondale electoral success!

Posted by: The Other Ed on August 29, 2008 at 11:22 AM | PERMALINK

Pat, McCain has been the one braying endlessly about the importance of "experience" the past two months, not us.

The Palin pick merely exposes all that bluster as being disingenuous and nothing but political posturing. We simply laugh at the extreme obviousness of the hypocrisy of the McCain campaign here.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw on August 29, 2008 at 11:22 AM | PERMALINK

I can see her being interviewed by Bill O'Reilly:

BILL'O: So, are there any skeletons in your closet?
PALIN: No.
BILL'O: From your beauty queen days? No sex tapes or compromising pictures that might come out?
PALIN: Absolutely not.
BILL'O: Are there any photos of yourself in skimpy swimsuits? You understand that I'm a culture warrior and I have to know these things.

Posted by: Speed on August 29, 2008 at 11:23 AM | PERMALINK

Biden should just let his wife, Jill, "pick her apart".

Posted by: maya on August 29, 2008 at 11:23 AM | PERMALINK

She has a four month old baby with Down's syndrome...why in the world she would want to spend the next two and a half months on an airplane as part of a doomed VP run is beyond me.

Comment is beyond the pale. I am a professional woman, have an infant with Down's as well, and am a lifelong Democrat.

What I can tell you already about Palin is she undoubtedly has quite a bit of courage. I already know she has better judgment than you.

Now to Steve Benen's original posting: I disagree strongly. Yes, I if I was a Republican, I would have preferred Olympia Snowe, who I worked with on the Hill and who grew up in an orphanage and who has the same independent mind as McCain.

But I don't think the choice of Palin is "desperate." I think she will give us a run for the money. My undecided friends are all abuzz about McCain's choice. At this point in time she has the best chance of becoming the first woman president through, if McCain should win, her VP incumbency or should the 71 year old McCain pass away in office.

In th next few months Palin will be no more of an "unknown", and no less experienced than Obama.

I will be voting Obama, but I couldn't disagree more with the idea that Palin will detract from the Republican ticket. I think she adds in both substance and electoral strategy. I think it is a very very astute move by McCain.

Posted by: Shel on August 29, 2008 at 11:23 AM | PERMALINK

It's lots of fun, but then again GHW Bush won despite Quayle, so it probably won't matter either way.

But this should be question number one at the debate: Suppose a promising cure for Down's syndrome could be developed through research on embryonic stem cells. Governor, would you still support banning such research, as advocated in your party's platform?

Posted by: Basilisc on August 29, 2008 at 11:24 AM | PERMALINK

I don't think a McSame supporter really wants to compare creepy smiles with anyone

The Joker

McCain

Two-Face

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 11:24 AM | PERMALINK

Yes, this takes away the experience argument, but I think this is a very smart pick for McCain. He's rolling the dice. He's making a play for the disgruntled Hillary supporters and the "change" motif. He's not going to go with the serious, boring "I'm so experienced" campaign. He's going to grab Obama's campaign themes with one hand and sling mud with the other.

Palin is very popular in Alaska because she is a savvy politician with a jocular, straight-talky style. It's possible this pick could backfire on McCain (and it certainly will if the media pooh-bahs call McCain out on the hypocrisy inherent in picking someone so inexperienced as his VP when his life expectancy is so questionable) but nobody has ever gone broke betting against the American media doing its job. It seems far more likely that they'll spend the next two months babbling about how white working class women who liked Hillary will love Palin.

I suspect the theatrics will play to his advantage. God, I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: AJL on August 29, 2008 at 11:25 AM | PERMALINK

I swear we have a mole in the McCain camp.

If "Ace" asked me who to pick, I'd suggest someone in a blood red state with very recent experience and, if I could get it past him... make it from THE MOST CORRUPT REPUBLICAN DOMINATED STATE POSSIBLE.

You think this pick won't shine a bleedin' spotlight on Stevens and Young and tar the whole crew?

3 electoral votes! 3!!!!

All the geographic strategy of the Biden pick with none of the policy chops.

As P.A. likes to say... "The mind reels."

Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on August 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM | PERMALINK

Bit too distracted by the prospect of Gustave bearing down on us (Lafayette LA) to process this, but first reaction is: Palin Who?

Getting in storm supplies. Batteries, chocolate and drinking water...ain't we got fun.

Posted by: MsNThrope on August 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM | PERMALINK

pat = concern troll

keep it up, pat. so far everything you've said on this post has been backward, and wrong.

better trolls please!!

orange

Posted by: just bill on August 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM | PERMALINK

Yet Another Big Oil connection for J. McCain

Posted by: mljohnston on August 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM | PERMALINK

Yet Another Big Oil connection for J. McCain

Posted by: mljohnston on August 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM | PERMALINK

It is a great pick, he now adds Alaska to Utah and Idaho in the win column

Posted by: fat karl on August 29, 2008 at 11:27 AM | PERMALINK


Anent Shel and 11:23AM

Shel's "undecided" friends are all abuzz and have communicated this to Shel in the minutes since the pick became known. Apparently, his "decided" friends knew that the "undecided" ones were going to want to communicate their buzzedness to Shel and haven't tied up the airwaves to Shel with their own reactions. I bet they'll communicate their buzzedness to Shel eventually.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on August 29, 2008 at 11:27 AM | PERMALINK

I will be voting Obama, but I couldn't disagree more with the idea that Palin will detract from the Republican ticket. I think she adds in both substance and electoral strategy.

Personally, I love how this pick emphasizes how John McCain is incredibly close to death.

How's that for electoral strategy, concern troll?

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM | PERMALINK

Palin has ZERO foreign policy experience.

Zero.

Spin that.

Posted by: Nashville_fan on August 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM | PERMALINK

Dale:

You can't beat up on either one of them.

I think after last night those days are over with. Barack and Biden are going there. This is clearly about taking the country back. I am talking passion and compassion.

A limp gauntlet didn't get thrown down last night.
Rockets got fired...


Posted by: ROTFLMLiberalAO on August 29, 2008 at 11:29 AM | PERMALINK

anyone notice that she has admitted to smoking weed? http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/governor06/story/8049298p-7942233c.html

Posted by: northzax on August 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM | PERMALINK

Why can you not be tough on a woman in a debate?

How can be the leader of the free world but not handle tough talk in a debate?

I'm confused.

Posted by: Nashville_fan on August 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM | PERMALINK

Pick a laughable unknown from the most corrupt state in the Union. Brilliant!

Umm, she is rated by Democrats in her state (including me!) as an excellent reformer who took on the massive corrupt that the oil and gas industry brought to both parties elected officials there.

She has been undaunted in going after Big Oil and fired all the political appointed they had placed.

You may not want to vote Republican -- I won't -- but I seriously suggest you refrain from voting at all if you insist on reversing your facts.

Posted by: malmute on August 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM | PERMALINK

So it's McCain/Quayle.

But Marilyn Quayle.

Posted by: penalcolony on August 29, 2008 at 11:31 AM | PERMALINK

Why is the media already running with the theme that Palin CAN'T be attacked BECAUSE she is a woman?

You think that Russia and Iran are going to follow this rule too?

Posted by: Nashville_fan on August 29, 2008 at 11:32 AM | PERMALINK

Do you all not see the hand of Karl Rove in this?

First Rove works against McCain's instinct of picking Lieberman and (most importantly) works on McCain's staff (to whom he is connect to) to argue against picking Joe.

Then he gets the staff to play up Palin even though McCain doesn't know her nor was she a supporter of his in the primaries. Why?

Because Rove sees Bob Barr cutting into McCain's vote in the West and the Atlantic South. He sees Ron Paul's gathering in Minneapolis being more exciting than the GOP Convention. McCain has to do something to fire up the base and take the wind out of the libertarians sails.

Palin is a cost-cutting, reform governor of Alaska, a maverick against the state's corrupt GOP establishment, a perfect sidekick for McCain. How can the libertarians, reform Republicans and economic conservatives complain now that McCain picked a like-minded person to be his VP?

Of course Palin is a pro-war as they come and that's the catch. She'll be the darling of the cosmo libertarian crowd from Eric Dondero to Reason to CATO. She doesn't offend the neocons or the Christian conservatives.

So it will be important for Bob Barr, Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin to emphasize a non-interventionist foreign policy. It's the fundemental difference between them and the GOP. Always has been.

Posted by: Sean Scallon on August 29, 2008 at 11:32 AM | PERMALINK

Palin dissed veep job

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12969.html

In an interview just a month ago, she dissed the job, saying it didn’t seem “productive.”

In fact, she said she doesn’t know what the vice president does.

Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain ticket mate.
Palin replied: “[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that V.P .slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question.”

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 11:32 AM | PERMALINK

She reminds me of Anita Bryant.

Posted by: MsMuddled on August 29, 2008 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK

This is an appalling choice, and she will withdraw within the week, I predict.

Sarah Palin appears to be the Vice Presidential nominee for the Party of Family Values, the Party of Family first, the Party of take care of your children.


The reason is simple: This decision is a total contra-family values decision.

On April 18, 2008, Sarah Palin gave birth to a child with Down's syndrome. This is for some a moment to affirm their family values credentials.

Here is a comment from a publication from a family physician about children with this condition:

The care of the infant or young child with Down syndrome can be complicated and may involve a myriad of immediate and long-term medical problems and psychosocial issues.

The quote is taken from "Primary Care of Infants and Young Children with Down Syndrome", by REBECCA B. SAENZ, M.D., published in American Family Physician, 1999.

URL: http://www.aafp.org/afp/990115ap/381.html

Another quote:

The psychologic benefit derived from the bonding of mother and infant can be extremely important at a time when, because of the infant's disability, the mother may be questioning her own adequacy.

It is clear that Sarah Palin has decided that her own naked ambition and lust for the power of the Vice President have led her to consign this child to the dustbin. What kind of family values are those?

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK

Please, please, please do not make the argument that women will reject her b/c she chose to give birth to a child with Down's. They won't.
I am strongly pro-choice, and strongly pro-Obama.

But I have nothing but respect for women -- and men -- who are true to their beliefs on this issue in welcoming children with disabilities into their lives. The press release she issued about her baby as a precious gift from God was beautiful. Trashing her for this is simultaneously offensive and stupid. I respect the choice she made, even as I insist on the right to make a different one.

Posted by: Genevieve on August 29, 2008 at 11:34 AM | PERMALINK

From the Great Orange Satan, Governor Palin on the office of the Vice President:

n an interview just a month ago, she dissed the job, saying it didn’t seem “productive.”

In fact, she said she doesn’t know what the vice president does.

Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain ticket mate.
Palin replied: “[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that V.P .slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question.”

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Completely unqualified, no foreign policy experience at all, and hard right on issues like choice. She is far less experienced than Quayle.
It's FerrarroII: the sequel.

Posted by: Marc on August 29, 2008 at 11:34 AM | PERMALINK

"make the choice from his heart."

Sarah Palin spent a year working as a commissioner for the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission

McDodo's heart has a stain darker than any crude oil.

Posted by: Brojo on August 29, 2008 at 11:34 AM | PERMALINK

Let's not celebrate. She has more executive experience than anyone else on either ticket!

Quayle? No. I can tell you Palin has a very keen mind.

Posted by: xenophile on August 29, 2008 at 11:35 AM | PERMALINK

Maybe someone can give me more information than this, but one of the talking heads said that there was an issue of abuse behind the firing of her brother-in-law. Is there any truth to that--did she try to get the guy fired because he was beating her sister? Maybe I was hallucinating, but that's what I thought I heard.

Posted by: Brian on August 29, 2008 at 11:35 AM | PERMALINK

I disagree with Steve. Makes good sense, overall. A woman Veep might be an attempt to appeal to Hillary Clinton diehard PUMAs. Palin has the advantage of being younger, while I think a young woman will less directly make Schmuck Talk Express™ look old than a younger male Veep would have done.

Posted by: SocraticGadfly on August 29, 2008 at 11:35 AM | PERMALINK

All of you wanna be pundits who claim Palin is an 'astute' or 'wise' choice need to get real.

2 years ago she was a mayor of a town of 6,000 people. No experience at all, nothing, nada, zilch. McCain just gave up a central theme of his campaign, that Obama hasn't enough experience.

She has quite a few ethical problems. She is tied to big oil and gas. More of the same, on a silver platter.

Hillary voters will NOT flood to her in droves simply because she's a woman. Hillary supporters support Hillary, not just her gender.

And Shel, you forget that Obama has been campaigning for Over and year and a half. I seriously doubt she will do what he has done in a little more that 2 months.

Posted by: citizen_pain on August 29, 2008 at 11:35 AM | PERMALINK

I think the pick was targeted to the National Press. I'm assuming the McCain team focus grouped this, so I would be so sure this is an "awful pick.

Shorter upcoming Ron Founier article:

"Maverick McMaverick's pick proves his awesome maverickiness."

Posted by: Shine on August 29, 2008 at 11:36 AM | PERMALINK

"Yeah, but all those millions of Hillary voters who FLAT-OUT REFUSE to vote for Obama will now run to McCain/Palin because she's a lady..."

Millions?!!?! Hahahaa.. that's laughable.

And please stop perpetuating the myth that women are so politically simple-minded that the only reason they supported Clinton was her lack of a Y chromosome.

Posted by: Nancy on August 29, 2008 at 11:36 AM | PERMALINK

Direct quote from the McCain PR: "As the head of Alaska's National Guard and as the mother of a soldier herself, Governor Palin understands what it takes to lead our nation and she understands the importance of supporting our troops."

That's her foreign policy cred. They really are desperate here, aren't they?

Posted by: Basilisc on August 29, 2008 at 11:36 AM | PERMALINK

McCain is just using the VP pick to pick up women. Or he's going with the Harriet Miers model.

That's Just What I Said

Posted by: Dale on August 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM | PERMALINK

Well, Her husband is a production operator on the north slope, hardly an oil big wig.

That said, Palin brings very little to the McCain ticket other than being a whistleblower, which many GOPr's dislike as they see it as unloyal. McCain will certainly call her a corruption fighter especially if Stevens [red meat] gets tossed under the bus.

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM | PERMALINK

Sarah Palin spent a year working as a commissioner for the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
McDodo's heart has a stain darker than any crude oil.

Be careful. She cleaned it up. Threw out all the big oil appointees and hacks.

Posted by: Dov on August 29, 2008 at 11:40 AM | PERMALINK

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK

_______

hey anon. dno't you know what family values are for other people's families?

Posted by: northzax on August 29, 2008 at 11:40 AM | PERMALINK

Misplaced Patriot: By the way, isn't "Change we can believe in" poor grammar? Shouldn't it be "Change in which we can believe?" :)

This is just the kind of pedantry up with which I will not put.

Posted by: Cervantes on August 29, 2008 at 11:41 AM | PERMALINK

WE do. But it is not widely accepted.
And no doubt Iran, Russia and China will accord her the same gentility.
What a joke.


Posted by: msw on August 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM | PERMALINK

Sarah Palin? Never heard of her. Seems pretty, and pretty innocuous -- not that she won't be thoroughly demonized by nightfall.

Adding Palin to bolster McCain reminds me of her namesake's famous "Dead Parrot Sketch"

PALIN: "He's not dead. He's just pining for the mesas."

Posted by: alibubba on August 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM | PERMALINK

For a brief moment, at least, I think Obama might clinch the deal.

Kay Bailey Hutchinson would have been hard work. Even Mitt Romney (Michigan! Michigan! surely a state Obama is deeply vulnerable in). Or the governor of Minnesota? (again a state the Republicans could well take-- trending red pretty steadily these last few years).

Alaska? No serious national political experience? Who cares?

The only thing I can think of is Karl Rove thinks this is going to be a really close race, and has identified the disenchanted Clinton voter (female, middle and lower middle class) as a key swing group-- especially in the Midwest. Add to that a potential appeal in some of the Mountain States which might otherwise have tilted.

It sounds like Mr. Maverick has out-Mavericked himself.

For the first time in this race, I dare hope.

Posted by: Valuethinker on August 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM | PERMALINK
McCain is going to "make the choice from his heart."

Hope that pre-nup is still valid, Cindy.

Posted by: The Answer WAS Orange on August 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM | PERMALINK

Steve, would you post an update on the investigation of Palin's alleged abuse of office? Perhaps Rachel Maddow would then echo on the tv?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121746477267499109.html

Posted by: Dave on August 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM | PERMALINK

Everyone here is attacking the pick on rational grounds. The one thing we have learned about the Rove version of a campaign is that rationality has nothing to do with it...

'Now they can't make the experienced argument'
Why not? You are assuming they are running a campaign with a sense of consistency or logic when they have proven they are not.

'She's weak on the issues...'
Sure but at the end of the day so it John McCain. If people understand McCain's policies he loses anyhow. What they really want are endless shots of an attractive woman on a snow mobile, caring for a child with down syndrome, and hanging out with fishermen and oilworkers.

'Biden will chew her up.'
Biden can devastate her if he wants BUT he might look like a bully. Even if she is objectively poor, she may be better than expected and that, not her performance, will be a story.

'Drill, Drill, Drill'
Palin will be lauded by everyone on the right as an energy expert and the MSM will not challenge it. (she's from Alaska y'know)


I think she may be a poor choice but never underestimate the folks on the right. If the campaign is about ideas Palin is no help, if the campaign is about distracting the MSM while McCain and the right-wing media go on the attack, she may be a great choice...

Posted by: sven on August 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

This pick supports Obama's contention that McCain is not serious.

Incredible.

Posted by: Lucy on August 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

I think that some of her perceived-by-McCain/Repubs pro's can actually work against her. For example, are religious-right, conservative, "family values" women going to get fired up over a woman that campaigns while she has a four-month-old infant at home?

Won't some of the male conservative Democrats that pundits are so concerned about Obama attracting going to be turned off by the possibility of a young, inexperienced woman running the country should something happen to McCain?

Posted by: FLDem on August 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

i hope Team Obama is not as naive as many commenters here. Those of you from Alaska say that Palin was actually cleaning up corruption and standing up to Big Oil. I say "so what?" We tied her to Big Oil, we tie her to the Stevens/Young Alaska Republican Party Corruption and let her spend the precious few days she has benfore the election explaining her way out of it.

Sheesh, have y'all learned nothing from the last 28 years of Presidential campaigns?

Posted by: zeitgeist on August 29, 2008 at 11:45 AM | PERMALINK

Ah, so the plan is...

We can't criticize McCain because he's a POW.
And we can't criticize Palin because she's a girl.

Posted by: doubtful on August 29, 2008 at 11:46 AM | PERMALINK

I think it is a smart choice by McCain. A lot of the comments above are outright sexist.

Posted by: Jill on August 29, 2008 at 11:46 AM | PERMALINK

So Palin has a four-month-old baby with Down's Syndrome and she is going to become Vice President?

Where are the family values in her life?

Posted by: tomj on August 29, 2008 at 11:46 AM | PERMALINK

That's odd -- why did John McCain pick Tina Fey as his running mate?

Posted by: Stefan on August 29, 2008 at 11:46 AM | PERMALINK

You have to admit that Sarah Palin is pretty hot (remember she was in the Ms. Alaska Pageant) and MUCH BETTER on the eyes than Joe Biden

http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=5055328

Posted by: Bobby Ewing on August 29, 2008 at 11:47 AM | PERMALINK

Was Paris Hilton not available because she's too young to qualify? Certainly she has great knowledge on energy issues!

Posted by: Speed on August 29, 2008 at 11:48 AM | PERMALINK

Who got passed over? And who refused?

This is a McCain pick, not a party pick. There are barons in the Marches who will now sit on their hands when the king asks for help.

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on August 29, 2008 at 11:49 AM | PERMALINK

Yes. No woman with a disable child should be a professional or hold a demanding job.

Posted by: TheMoronView on August 29, 2008 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK

If the same failed policies that have been supported by John McCain and George Bush are implemented by a woman - does that make them better?

P.S. The fact that her child is 4 months old and has Down Syndrome is a non-issue. Doesn't affect gas prices, foreign policy, or the housing slump.

Irrelevant distraction.

Posted by: Nashville_fan on August 29, 2008 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK

Biden's job is to beat up McCain, not Palin.

Posted by: Gary on August 29, 2008 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK

regarding: By the way, isn't "Change we can believe in" poor grammar? Shouldn't it be "Change in which we can believe?"

... "never end a sentence with a preposition"

A Harvard freshman approached an upperclassperson on the first day of class: "Can you please tell me where the library is at?"

The upperclassperson replied: "Here at Harvard, we never end a sentence with a preposition"

The freshman then said, after a pause: "OK then, can you please tell me where the library is at, asshole?"

Posted by: Joanie Abalone on August 29, 2008 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK
hey anon, dno't you know what family values are for other people's families?

It seems Palin is the subject of an ethics investigation if thats what you mean,,,

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM | PERMALINK

This is an amazingly poor choice for a candidate with serious questions about his age & health.

Palin has even less experience than Obama, governs a state with a miniscule population, and has absolutely no foreign policy experience.

Bottom line is that people are going to be a lot more nervous about voting for McCain now, knowing that someone as inexperienced as Palin is next in line for the presidency.

Posted by: mfw13 on August 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM | PERMALINK

Obama's paid campaign staff is almost as large as Alaska's state government; and his list of donors is several times larger than the population of Alaska.

Posted by: lampwick on August 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM | PERMALINK

McCain/Palin in a landslide!!! (In Alaska that is)

Posted by: RobertSeattle on August 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

@ davis x. Who got passed over? And who refused?

Tell it, brother davis. She's a sacrificial lamb. No one else is going down with John McCain.

Posted by: MsMuddled on August 29, 2008 at 11:57 AM | PERMALINK

I hope experience isn't our arguing point. She has more executive experience than Obama or Biden. I think a lot of the negativity here is because she is a woman.

She has a formidable record as a reformer.

Everything I have read here is ad hominem attack. Not ONE piece of information or discussion on her policies and views (except an ironic reversal of her contentious relationship with the oil companies into a false accusation of toadyism).

Posted by: codepink on August 29, 2008 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

Great. Another Oil connection on the Republican Ticket. Haven't we had enough of Oil Company influence in our politics?

Posted by: JWK on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM | PERMALINK

Imagine someone with less than two years of experience governing the fourth-smallest state, who is implicated in a tawdry state trooper scandal, nominated to be the second in command of the most powerful nation on earth. Biden will make mince meat out of her.

It's one thing to live the American Dream. It's another thing to be dreaming.

After this decision maybe McCain will be invited to be a guest celebrity in "Vagina Monologues."

Posted by: pj in jesusland on August 29, 2008 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK

Codepink,

She has more executive experience doing what?

What has she done?

Senator Obama has been one hell of an executive running his campaign - and he has the RESULTS to show for it.

I want someone to answer the question: WHAT HAS SHE ACCOMPLISHED?

Posted by: Nashville_fan on August 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK

It's quite obvious to me this pick was made out of desperation AND misguided logic more than anything else. Contrary to popular belief, I think the Republicans were somewhat affected by (at least paying close attention to) the DNC. McCain is OBVIOUSLY trying to STEAL Obama's thunder.

When it became apparent that the so-called "disgruntled female Hillary Clinton voters" might not go McCain's way quite as he planned, he decided to "shore up that voter block" with Sarah Palin.

Palin is NOT Clinton, and will NOT have the same draw power. The state of Alaska has NO national appeal, and being that she's anti-abortion won't go over too well with a LOT of women voters!

As others have already posted here, Palin has LITTLE EXPERIENCE, and will open the door for the Democrats to take the fight to the GOP even more so! McCain is simply trying to imitate everything Obama's already doing successfully---and voters with their EYES WIDE OPEN should not be fooled!!

Posted by: Derrix-Jaheim ZeMBenebwe on August 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK

Not as strange as it seems - Palin has built her short political career on reform, and McCain is trying to show his maverick streak.

Posted by: Andy on August 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK

Looks like McCain just picked his very own Danielle Quayle.

Good thing Biden doesn't know anything, she'll do fine in the VP debates.

LOL!

Posted by: Racer X on August 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK

Just yesterday, advisers to the McCain campaign conceded to the New York Times that McCain "thinks highly" of Palin, but "her less than two years in office would undercut one of the McCain campaign's central criticisms of Senator Barack Obama -- that he is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief." So much for the McCain campaign's message.

I recently reread Hunter S. Thompson's excellent Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72, which traces McGovern's organization-based guerilla primary campaign. HST believed McGovern's Veep choice sunk his Presidential bid -- first because Eagleton was of the old, corrupt system McG's people were running against, and secondly because he botched replacing him so badly.

If this news is correct, McCain either has one of its major campaign narratives silenced, as Steve points out -- after all, McCain is old, so Palin's preparedness to step up is unavoidably an issue -- or they'll have to replace her for one reason or another (I can't believe a Rove-run campaign would so give the finger to the fundies by pushing a pro-life choice), which just once again proves what a clown show his campaign is, and that McCain is just not ready to lead.

Posted by: Gregory on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 PM | PERMALINK

According to Open Secrets, over the course of her lifetime she has donated a grand total of $648 to republican causes and lists her occupation as "housewife."

Posted by: Blue Girl on August 29, 2008 at 12:05 PM | PERMALINK

Riiight "codepink". She has a formidable one-year record, and prior to that she was mayor of a small town. She is the subject of an ethics investigation. These aren't "ad hominum". She stated in an interview that she didn't know what the Vice President did. She's an anti-abortion fanatic. You can try to make believe that sexism - I smell a republican desperately defending the choice of an unqualified religious fanatic and trying to use her gender to rule questions off limits.

Posted by: Marc on August 29, 2008 at 12:07 PM | PERMALINK

Imagine someone with less than two years of experience governing the fourth-smallest state, who is implicated in a tawdry state trooper scandal, nominated to be the second in command of the most powerful nation on earth. Biden will make mince meat out of her.

Like Bill Clinton (our best president)?

The arguments here are idiotic and sexist.

Posted by: Patricia on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 PM | PERMALINK

This is hysterical. You can almost hear the dittoheads saying, "Why did McCain pick a vice-president from another country?"

Republicans have to be sitting there with their heads in their hands at this pick. All of McCain's experience and judgement and this is who he picks as his veep? I know McCain thinks this is a canny pick, going for a woman, but picking her stinks of an affirmative action pick and that won't sit well with the homies.

Sure McCain thinks Palin will be able to debate on energy and now we'll hear about ANWR until we go deaf, but it will also put the focus on all the oil corruption within the Republican party up there, on Don Young and Ted Stevens and exposes more of an achilles heel than an strength.

Having such a WTF pick will only cause questions of judgment, wondering about whether better candidates turned down an veep offer as political suicide or create wonder if this is the best the Republicans can do.

Posted by: petorado on August 29, 2008 at 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

She's also a creationist. From ScienceBlogs:

"The volatile issue of teaching creation science in public schools popped up in the Alaska governor's race this week when Republican Sarah Palin said she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in the state's public classrooms. Palin was answering a question from the moderator near the conclusion of Wednesday night's televised debate on KAKM Channel 7 when she said, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information."

Posted by: Marc on August 29, 2008 at 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

How is "She has no foreign policy experience" sexist?

Posted by: Nashville_fan on August 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK

I think a lot of the negativity here is because she is a woman.

Male politicians with a lot more heft than Palin are routinely skewered in Comments, yet "negativity here is because she is a woman".

Text HQ for a better tack.

Posted by: Lucy on August 29, 2008 at 12:14 PM | PERMALINK

Conventional wisdom watch...NPR's Linda Wertheimer could barely contain her puzzlement over the pick. Her tone was one if incredulity and she indicated that she simply couldn't see any rhyme or reason for picking Palin.

The official announcement is being made at the Nutter Center at Wright State. Appropriate name.

Posted by: jrw on August 29, 2008 at 12:15 PM | PERMALINK

Nashville, it's SoP for winger trolls. They think that you can magically ward off all criticism from progressives by using the gender of a female candidate as a talisman. If anyone anywhere makes any comment that has any sexist connotation, then of course all opposition to her is sexist.

Of course there are also female bigots, and a handful of hand-wringers who will make the mistake of getting into the swamps with em.

Go ahead, defend your inexperienced creationist anti-abortion fanatic who is the subject of an ethics investigation. Hint: sexist sexist sexist won't work...

Posted by: Marc on August 29, 2008 at 12:16 PM | PERMALINK

I worry about Biden being a little too condescending. I hope he just answers the questions directly and treats her like she is an experienced national figure. Biden is pretty good, but he can be a little pompous.

Posted by: Ron Byers on August 29, 2008 at 12:16 PM | PERMALINK

Voters don't picture the Vice President as President.

Arguably the worse vice presidential choices have resulted in election victories, not losses (Agnew, Quayle)

That said, this choice is not too bad at all. I am voting straight Democrat and always have, but his choice has increased, not decreased my views of McCain.

Someone above said she is subject to an ethics probe. That is not true, it is backwards. She is an ethics reformer.

Posted by: HKK on August 29, 2008 at 12:17 PM | PERMALINK

I completely disagree that having a baby, damned close to a newborn, doesn't matter! How many real people can leave their baby for months at a time? How many WOULD??

Sorry, if you have a child, you should be with that child for more than a few hours a month.

And this is coming from a pretty hard core feminist.

Posted by: MsJoanne on August 29, 2008 at 12:18 PM | PERMALINK

Sarah Palin = Smurfette
http://mattmardislecroy.blogspot.com/2008/08/sarah-palin-and-smurfette-syndrome.html

Posted by: Matt on August 29, 2008 at 12:22 PM | PERMALINK

It's apparent that McCain has sent a "girl to do a woman's job". His speech (going on right now in Ohio) isn't doing anything for me. McCain is such a FRAUD!

Posted by: Derrix-Jaheim ZeMBenebwe on August 29, 2008 at 12:24 PM | PERMALINK

Someone above said she is subject to an ethics probe. That is not true, it is backwards. She is an ethics reformer.

Um, Palin is the subject of an ethics probe.

Posted by: Lucy on August 29, 2008 at 12:25 PM | PERMALINK

did anyone hear the boos when mccain was describing her

Posted by: zet on August 29, 2008 at 12:26 PM | PERMALINK

So, is McCain saying women are stupid that they would flock to this pick just because of her gender ? What a slap in the face to women across the country of any party ! Brian

Posted by: Brian H on August 29, 2008 at 12:27 PM | PERMALINK

Chuck Todd on MSNBC is already giving Palin a pass for her ethic trouble because he says she was just protecting her sister.

And he has already portrayed Joe Biden as a bully that can't "beat up on her.

Uh oh.

The McCain immunity has just been extended to his lady friend.

Posted by: Nashville_fan on August 29, 2008 at 11:04 AM | PERMALINK

That's funny--I don't remember ever hearing Chuck Todd say that men couldn't beat up on Hillary Clinton because she is a woman. As a matter of fact, the "bullies" on MSNBC/NBC did a super job of doing just that. So I guess he means that men can beat up on Democratic women in campaigns, but not Republican women. I think I get it now . . .

Posted by: bamaky on August 29, 2008 at 12:29 PM | PERMALINK

and as the mother of a soldier herself

Wow, I guess Cindy Sheehan is also qualified to be C-in-C too!

Posted by: Bob Loblaw on August 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM | PERMALINK

Well, I've read all the comments, and I actually think this was a smart choice for McCain. All his other potential picks has large issues that would alienate the base. Palin will solidify his base. This isn't a play for Hillary voters - this is play to energize the Right (which has not been enthused with McCain). And, btw, I'm an Obama supporter.

If you want some fun, go sit on RedState where they have their live chat going and watch them wax poetic about the news...hysterical.

Posted by: inthewoods on August 29, 2008 at 12:35 PM | PERMALINK

Um, Patricia, Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas for fourteen years before he became President. That's a bit different than having two years as Governor and a stint as mayor of a 5,500-person town. Besides, Arkansas has more than four times as many people in it as Alaska, and the Governor actually has to work to balance the budget, unlike Alaska where the state gets so much revenue from oil that it cuts its citizens a check every year. Clinton also was a Rhodes Scholar and a Yale-educated lawyer, whereas Palin was a beauty queen with a bachelor's degree.

Posted by: The Fabulous Mr. Toad on August 29, 2008 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

Indeed, I support everyone being "polite" to candidate Sarah Palin as the media and the Republican noise machine has been to Hillary Clinton.

(however, human decency does compel me to say leave her infant child and motherhood choices out of criticism... unless the governor herself chooses to make an issue of it.)

Posted by: short fuse on August 29, 2008 at 12:38 PM | PERMALINK

Good grief, the comment wasn't that women can't be professional and have disabled children, and it wasn't "beyond the pale" unless the pale is a very medium brown. The comment was why would you want to leave your family behind to hitch yourself to McCain's Soon-to-be-Shooting Star-That-Will-Go-Down-In-Flames. Go run your state and maybe at least get to hug the baby before bed every night.

Posted by: jibeaux on August 29, 2008 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

It isn't a criticism. It isn't something to try to pound on her about. Lilly Ledbetter is something to pound on her about. It is something that I, as a mom, wonder what she's thinking, is all. I wouldn't want to campaign at that point in my life with a GOOD candidate, much less John McCain.

Posted by: jibeaux on August 29, 2008 at 12:47 PM | PERMALINK

Her only qualification is that she is female. (Hmm, women will vote for her, just the way blacks flocked to Lynn Swann and Ken Blackwell.) And her very 'unknownness' will get the media looking very closely at her, and will get her ethics problems, her ignorance of foreign affairs, etc. out, yes, even the MSM.

McCain will get a brief bump -- maybe. But it will be gone before the convention ends.

The comparison between Quayle and Agnew and her disappears once you look at McCain's age. Nobody was sewriously worried about GHWBush or Nixon not surviving their terms. This time 'a heartbeat away' will mean something.

Posted by: Prup (aka Jim Benton) on August 29, 2008 at 12:51 PM | PERMALINK

Well, first, I was wrong. He went with a woman.

Second, Sarah who?

Third, when Jack Ryan (Mr. Jeri Lynn/Seven of Nine) was discovered to be a bit of a sex pervert it became clear that Barack Obama was going to win the Illinios senate seat. The Republican't party sent for Alan Keyes, African American conservative from Maryland and ran HIM against Obama.

Minority sacrificial lamb, just like Michael Steele.

The only way Palin can get into the Naval Observatory (where the VP lives) is to help McC*nt win over women. If she doesn't deliver, the Republicant's will be able to point at her and claim it was all her fault.

Posted by: Lance on August 29, 2008 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK

I wonder if McCain dies before the election if she will run as president and get to choose another VP?

Posted by: GeorgiaGirl on August 29, 2008 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK

Did anyone notice the McCain forgot his flag pin?

Posted by: Nashville Raised on August 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM | PERMALINK

Watch out. You are making some incredibly sexist arguments here that the Democrats and Obama can't afford to be associated with.

In arguing that Palin is "untested and untried" you are making clear that the Democrats operate under an incredibly sexist double standard. It is not an argument that a party that just spent months trashing an more experienced woman in favor of an "untested and untried" man can afford to be seen promoting.

It looks like the Republicans, impressed by Clinton's 18 million votes, have woken up to the fact that women's electoral power is no longer something they can afford to ignore.

At the same time, the Democratic party has appeared to be trying to win back the "angry white male" vote by trashing and minimizing the power that women have worked so hard to gain within the party over the last 30 years.

In this case, the Republicans are the ones on the right side of history.

Posted by: esmense on August 29, 2008 at 12:58 PM | PERMALINK

Somebody might have made this suggestion in one of the 157 or so comments above me...

But we shouldn't criticize McCain's pick for lack of experience or lack of evidence of leadership,...

We should mention, over and over, the double-standard applied here. McCain criticizes Obama for lack of experience and then picks a VP who has an ounce of experience for every pound of experience that Obama has (she's the Governor for 1.5 years of a state with a smaller population than any medium-sized U.S. city).

The right will cover up their double-standards and talk up her "executive" experience.

With this pick...the double-standard is the thing. Pass it on.

Posted by: Chris on August 29, 2008 at 12:59 PM | PERMALINK

She's Fox News Ready.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on August 29, 2008 at 11:09 AM

Not tall enough, not blonde enough.

Posted by: Vincent on August 29, 2008 at 12:59 PM | PERMALINK

"In this case, the Republicans are the ones on the right side of history." -Posted by: esmense

You mean by opposing abortion and affirmative action?

Posted by: 2Manchu on August 29, 2008 at 1:02 PM | PERMALINK

I just caught part of Sarah Palin's introduction. I don't know about her credentials or her idealogy, but good God--- she's a MILF!

Posted by: Jim on August 29, 2008 at 1:03 PM | PERMALINK

McCain's choice of Palin is an insult to Hillary Clinton and her supporters....substituting Barbie doll for an intelligent, hard working, experienced candidate.

Beauty queen to the left of him, beauty queen to the right.....

Posted by: ES on August 29, 2008 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK

jibeaux - I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder about how she would make the choice to run given the motherhood challenge she balances... I was trying to point out it's a precarious political argument, because few would say the same thing about about a male politician. (and I was not directing my comment specifically at you, sorry if I offended).

Posted by: short fuse on August 29, 2008 at 1:34 PM | PERMALINK

All the HRC supporters I've spoken to are FURIOUS about this. And, frankly, a number of women who supported Obama are insulted as well.

Hillary earned it. She earned it. The whole point of Hillary was that she was so good you could never credibly dispute she earned it. She was a vindication for all the women who haven't been respected in spite of being smarter, better, and working harder.

The suggestion that electing Palin is the same as electing Hillary is profoundly insulting. Palin didn't earn it. Nobody's heard of her. People are LAUGHING at her. They are comparing her to Dan Quayle--and it's not because she's a woman, it's because she's a nobody no one's ever heard of just like Dan Quayle!

And then she gets on stage, and she doesn't come off like Hillary does--strong, masterful, imposing, solid. She has NO gravitas--and Hillary was a woman of undeniable gravitas who earned every ounce of it.

Palin stealing Hillary's line about the glass ceiling is presumptuous and offensive to all the women who bloodied their knuckles fighting their way through the glass ceiling. Condoleeza Rice would not have been an insult. Kay Bailey Hutchison would not have been an insult. Elizabeth Dole, Susan Collins, Christie Todd Whitman, MEG Whitman, Carly Fiorina, would not have been an insult.

How DARE she suggest with her glass ceiling line she is continuing Hillary's legacy? She's not fit to pick up Hillary's shoes, much less her mantle!

Debbie Wasserman Schultz put it best: "I know Hillary. And Sarah Palin is no Hillary."

John McCain doesn't get it. He doesn't respect women, or he wouldn't insult us by suggesting Palin is a Hillary Clinton just because she's a girl, too.

Posted by: anonymiss on August 29, 2008 at 1:47 PM | PERMALINK

Okay, everybody lay OFF the kid with Down's. For Christ's sake.

Posted by: miwome on August 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM | PERMALINK

It's possible that Palin was picked *because* her political career is so short - there's less to pick over and drag out into the public eye. So, from a political POV it might not be a bad pick.

The Base will *love* her, especially her views on education and abortion.

Hillariettes? Maybe not so much. If the appeal is to be to the middle-class, middle-aged women... Most mothers are likely to be appalled. She's got 4 kids under 18 (the oldest being 19 and in Iraq; a stressful situation by itself), the youngest under 6mo and the 3 in the middle all teenage girls. That's a *big* handful. Who's gonna be seeing to them, while she's attending international funerals, and worrying about the possibility of the Old POW dropping off any minute? Is the kids' Dad gonna stay home to take care of them and bake cookies for their school outings? From a woman's point of view, she's not the best or most caring of mothers.

IMO, she's a 50/50 pick and may be harder to slam than Mittens would have been.

Joanie Abalone, @ 11:51,

The "rule" of prepositions", as taught in Poland (Warsaw U):"prepositions are not to end the sentence with".

Posted by: exlibra on August 29, 2008 at 1:57 PM | PERMALINK

Will this revive the "Cleavage" debate made so popular by RW gasbags as they drooled over Hil last spring?

I hope so!! :)

Posted by: olo on August 29, 2008 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

She looks like one of those Mormon-sect women with that beehive hairdo.

Posted by: phoebes in santa fe on August 29, 2008 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

Wow. This could not be better. Mccain's endorsement of his VP choice was so bland and generic that he could have been talking about almost anyone in the country. And she was no better. She compared herself to Hillary Clinton at the same time as saying she was a soccer mom. Hmm. Guess I could look into political office given that I've brought my own kids to soccer games.

And she supports teaching creationism in he public schools? How about voodoo? Astrology? This is just incredible. Intelligence has been lacking for a long time in the Republican administration. Guess Mccain determined that it was a winning strategy.

Posted by: DBaltimore3 on August 29, 2008 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK

Reading the comments on various blogs, I'm convinced that McCain's sent a bunch of surrogates out to use comments sections in an attempt to create a "Palin=MILF" meme. I'd say she's cute in a TV-news-anchor-from-Syracuse sort of way, but in terms of hotness, there a probably a dozen women at this moment shopping in your nearest local supermarket who are hotter than her. Just sayin'....

Posted by: Cleon on August 29, 2008 at 2:17 PM | PERMALINK

Now it's all about experience, riiight...I can't get over the hipocrisy of the Obama-maniacs. Now suddenly it's all about "experience" - if Obama was not scared of Hillary he would have chosen her for VP, unifying the party, having the best candidate for the job by balancing his lack of experience with her. Now that McCain has chosen a woman, a mother of five, governor of the biggest state of the nation, the Obama no-brainers are calling it foul. Cracks me up.

What are you so scared of, that a woman might one day run the presidency? Why not? I appreciate that McCain has given me a reason to vote for him.

Posted by: Jill on August 29, 2008 at 2:23 PM | PERMALINK

Now it's all about experience, riiight...I can't get over the hipocrisy of the Obama-maniacs. Now suddenly it's all about "experience" - if Obama was not scared of Hillary he would have chosen her for VP, unifying the party, having the best candidate for the job by balancing his lack of experience with her. Now that McCain has chosen a woman, a mother of five, governor of the biggest state of the nation, the Obama no-brainers are calling it foul. Cracks me up.

What are you so scared of, that a woman might one day run the presidency? Why not? I appreciate that McCain has given me a reason to vote for him.

Posted by: Jill on August 29, 2008 at 2:23 PM | PERMALINK

As a trollop myself, any comment made against a woman I find completely and indefensibly SEXIST. Even if it's not really!

JFC, here we go again......

God help us, is she going to give Putin a fish from Alaska when they meet? This election is between the party of personal issues; abortion, who's homosexually fucking whom (and trying to get married), other faux women's rights now that Palin is the VP pick, rich stay that way, etc. vs. a “global” approach to solving larger and certainly more pertinent problems wherein the mantra goes “we all need to work together to change the ideological gridlock”.

This shouldn’t be a contest at all but here in the Stupid States of America it's bigger than the national Enquirer and Dancing with the Stars put together. By the way, happy 72 Senator McCain!

I need another Ativan.

Posted by: William the trollop on August 29, 2008 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Okay, everybody lay OFF the kid with Down's. For Christ's sake.

Posted by: miwome

But will the wingnuts?
I just had a huge argument with someone yesterday about how Obama is some sort of "baby-killer" because of the "Born Alive" anti-choice insanity in Illinois. Fox interviewed Jill Stanek, wingnut religious fanatical "nurse," saying she had held an aborted Down's fetus, etc., etc., whereas Obama wanted to kill them all!
With Palin, there is the implication that women who choose to have babies with Down's have somehow made a more "moral" choice.

Will the wingnuttery go that low?

I wouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: munchkinpup on August 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK

anonymiss states it very well about comparing
Palin to Hillary:

"Hillary earned it. She earned it. The whole point of Hillary was that she was so good you could never credibly dispute she earned it. She was a vindication for all the women who haven't been respected in spite of being smarter, better, and working harder.

The suggestion that electing Palin is the same as electing Hillary is profoundly insulting. Palin didn't earn it. Nobody's heard of her. People are LAUGHING at her. They are comparing her to Dan Quayle--and it's not because she's a woman, it's because she's a nobody no one's ever heard of just like Dan Quayle!

And then she gets on stage, and she doesn't come off like Hillary does--strong, masterful, imposing, solid. She has NO gravitas--and Hillary was a woman of undeniable gravitas who earned every ounce of it.

Palin stealing Hillary's line about the glass ceiling is presumptuous and offensive..."


It is also time to recognize the FACT that many women are indeed misogynistic. Particularly conservative Republican women, who will vote for Palin as VP because they share the same warped viewpoints regarding women's equality and sexuality.

To hell with her lack of experience!

Who gives a rat's ass if she is a creationist and views scientific facts as mythology!

Who cares if she believes women do NOT have the right to control their reproductive lives!

Palin has benefited from decades of struggle suffered by other women--FEMINISTS-- who actually cared about women's rights, including reproductive rights.

Palin literally makes me sick.

Posted by: munchkinpup on August 29, 2008 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

I completely disagree that having a baby, damned close to a newborn, doesn't matter! How many real people can leave their baby for months at a time? How many WOULD??

Sorry, if you have a child, you should be with that child for more than a few hours a month.
And I am a pretty hard core feminist
Posted by: MsJoanne

Dollars to donuts this was not posted by a woman.
How old were Kennedy's kids? oh right, they had a miscarriage in office.

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

I understand she's an avid hunter. Ok, good stuff for a VP; has she ever bagged an attorney?

Posted by: Oldjoe on August 29, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

Statement from NOW's Kim Gandy:

"Not Every Woman Supports Women's Rights"

August 29, 2008

Statement of NOW PAC Chair Kim Gandy on the Selection of Sarah Palin as John McCain's Vice Presidential Pick

Sen. John McCain's choice of Alaska governor Sarah Palin as his running mate is a cynical effort to appeal to disappointed Hillary Clinton voters and get them to vote, ultimately, against their own self-interest.

Gov. Palin may be the second woman vice-presidential candidate on a major party ticket, but she is not the right woman. Sadly, she is a woman who opposes women's rights, just like John McCain.

The fact that Palin is a mother of five who has a 4-month-old baby, a woman who is juggling work and family responsibilities, will speak to many women. But will Palin speak FOR women? Based on her record and her stated positions, the answer is clearly No.

In a gubernatorial debate, Palin stated emphatically that her opposition to abortion was so great, so total, that even if her teenage daughter was impregnated by a rapist, she would "choose life" -- meaning apparently that she would not permit her daughter to have an abortion.

Palin also had to withdraw her appointment of a top public safety commissioner who had been reprimanded for sexual harassment, although Palin had been warned about his background through letters by the sexual harassment complainant.

What McCain does not understand is that women supported Hillary Clinton not just because she was a woman, but because she was a champion on their issues. They will surely not find Sarah Palin to be an advocate for women.

Sen. Joe Biden is the VP candidate who appeals to women, with his authorship and championing of landmark domestic violence legislation, support for pay equity, and advocacy for women around the world.

Finally, as the chair of NOW's Political Action Committee, I am frequently asked whether NOW supports women candidates just because they are women. This gives me an opportunity to once again answer that question with an emphatic 'No.' We recognize the importance of having women's rights supporters at every level but, like Sarah Palin, not every woman supports women's rights.

Posted by: munchkinpup on August 29, 2008 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

Obama's 150 days in the Senate makes him presidential?

Posted by: on August 29, 2008 at 4:34 PM | PERMALINK

So in your eyes Governor(s) are not qualified to be presidents only Senators? For once a Republican's Republican has been chosen to run, if only for VP...it's a start.
Ronald Reagan would be proud and so are legions and legions of ordinary Americans like me.

I see a landslide, the likes of which not seen since 1980.........

Posted by: Reaganite on August 29, 2008 at 6:38 PM | PERMALINK

I see a landslide, the likes of which not seen since 1980......... -Raganite

Oh, so do the rest of us. Obama/Biden will crush them.

I'm shocked you'd admit it, though.

Posted by: doubtful on August 29, 2008 at 8:53 PM | PERMALINK

Says Ms. Kim it's a "cynical effort to appeal to disappointed Hillary Clinton voters and get them to vote, ultimately, against their own self-interest."

I would hope that self-interest is not the deciding factor ... ask not what your country can do for you ...

Posted by: buckeye 6 on August 29, 2008 at 9:34 PM | PERMALINK

I cannot help but notice the similarity among the women McCain chooses to be close to. Deferent women who just happen to be former beauty queens!

Posted by: spikey11 on August 29, 2008 at 10:26 PM | PERMALINK

A limp gauntlet didn't get thrown down last night.
Rockets got fired...
Posted by: ROTFLMLiberalAO

Sure hope so. Iron fist, meet velvet glove.

That's Just What I Said

Posted by: Dale on August 30, 2008 at 1:22 AM | PERMALINK

1. How can Obama Campaign claim Palin does not have the experience to be President?

2. Her PRESIDENTIAL credentials are vastly superior to his!

3. Bill Clinton didn't have anymore experience either, back in 1992.

4. Biden does not have the Foreign Policy experience John McCain has, and Joe has never been right about any decisions he has made. PLUS, Biden is flawed with ethical violations. He has never been correct with any of his Political assessments on any Foreign Policy.

There are no comparisons that Obama bin Biden can make that have any credit!!

Posted by: Bill in Niantic on August 30, 2008 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK

I understand and even admire Palin's choice to go ahead and have her baby, even though he had DS and even though she has a super high-power, high intensity job. This is what is possible in a society that supports working mothers--if you get pregnant, you have the choice to keep your job AND keep your baby. She knew what the job of governor entailed and obviously thought she could handle it.

What appalls me is her judgment now--just as she is beginning this new, yet unknown life as mother of a child with a disability--to accept McCain's invitation to take one of the most intense jobs in the world. If things get rough at home or if her baby gets sick and needs its mother, she is not going to have the option of quitting her job, cutting back her hours, taking sick leave, or any of the other rights that normal working mothers of newborns have.

The first year of life is a volatile time. As a mother of a three year old and as someone who for financial and other reasons had to go back to work full time one month after her child was born, I am grateful at least that my husband was able to stay at home full time with the baby and that my job allowed me to just not show up when the baby was really sick or really needed me.

This will not be the case with the Vice Presidency of the United States. The VP cannot quit or cut back hours to care for newborns in need.

In the end, every working woman has the right to choose her own balance of work and family. Nevertheless, having myself recently experienced the intensity of raising even a healthy baby, I truly wonder about the family values and judgment of Sarah Palin in accepting this nomination when she has such a young and needy baby.

Posted by: Melissa on August 30, 2008 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

Wait till you see the nude Palin pics when she ran for Miss America. Vaa Vaa Voom, sex sells baby and they now have the winning ticket and may America go to hell when they do!

Posted by: Richard Neva on August 30, 2008 at 2:15 PM | PERMALINK

Hey look.. McCain chose Julia Lousie Dreyfus from Seinfeld!

Posted by: alias2u2 on August 30, 2008 at 3:22 PM | PERMALINK

As for the mangled line being put out that Palin doesnt even know what the VP does, read her reported remarks. "But as for that VP talk all the time, Ill tell you, I still cant answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? Im used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that were trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question."
I'm an onlooker from Australia. America leads the free world, what the US does affects us. The thought of a poll-driven political theorist like Obama is scary, he thinks he can make speeches to Putin, and nut-cases like the boss of Iran and they will cave in.

Posted by: belfast on August 30, 2008 at 5:02 PM | PERMALINK

I think the selection of Sarah Palin is an insult to women. The assumption that she is an adequate replacement for Hillary and that women vote solely based on something as superficial as gender is laughable.

However, I must say that this talk about Palin's DS baby is irrelevant and sexist, albeit not intentionally so. Men with special needs babies go on the road all the time. I see no reason why anyone would assume that Palin has to take primary parental responsibility all the time. She's not a single parent.

Will conservative women care about this either way? When considering a strongly pro-life, anti-gay, creationist woman, they will pass on the at-home-mother issue.

As to the rest of us, we'll pass on the whole package.

Posted by: luuna on August 30, 2008 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK

Sarah Palin is a former beauty queen, who has been governor for less than 2 years, her only other real experience working for Alaska oil and gas interests. Palin is being investigated for abuse of the powers of her office.

Worse than that, she is no friend to the animals. As one commentator put it, more like the anti-christ to all creatures. She recently used $400,000 in state money to defeat a voter ballot initiative to stop the cruel aerial gunning of bears and wolves. Palin has worked to increase hunting in the state. She has even led the way to stop voters from expressing their views thru wildlife ballot initiatives.

It is an insult for McCain to think he can get women who supported Hillary to vote for him simply by picking any woman. Palin is in no sense a substitute for Hillary. Palin does not champion any of the values promoted by Hillary. Palin's viciousness towards animals, her willingness to support any industry at any cost, proves that. This inexperienced person with no regard for wildlife and a willingness to inflict needless pain and suffering on animals, will make Dan Quayle look like a brilliant choice. She has moved me to work for Obama's election.

Posted by: Animal Law Coalition on August 30, 2008 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

"to defeat a voter ballot initiative to stop the cruel aerial gunning of bears and wolves"

Perhaps you should look to the root of who supported putting that initiative on the ballot? Where did the money come from to support it? Was Animal Law Coalition a contributor?

My home state, Alaska, consists of 375 million acres. Of that, 222 million are run by BLM, i.e. for those who don't know that means Bureau of Land Management (a federal agency). Then we have a whole group of preservationists who put "conservation" in their name and run tear jerker ads to the Lower 48.

How about running the ad of three Eagle River, AK joggers and their dogs as they were stalked by a wolf pack on their early morning jog? I live in Anchorage and have bears and moose as frequent visitors to my back yard.

People here actually eat moose, caribou, goat, and even some bear. We aren't all allowed to hire a plane and hunt. How about veal farms in the Lower 48? I don't eat veal but I do eat moose and caribou.

We all have our idiosyncrasies and I find Alaska a great place to live. We don't want to be like everyone else.

Posted by: Glenda on August 31, 2008 at 9:46 PM | PERMALINK

Well, after reading most of the comments I find it disappointing that so many are focused on the gender issue.
The economy in the United States is appalling. Is anyone out there suffering due to low wages, gasoline prices, high utilities? What about your grocery bill?
People right and left are losing their homes.
Should we really have gone to war with the Middle East?
What about our deficit?
And what about the overall low morale of the average American. Do you take a look at these issues and wonder if it will get better?
Bottom line is this; 8 years of a Republican in the White House. We have gone so downhill. Shouldn't we be looking for change? Anything has to be better than what is happening to America now.
Although I don't personally believe in abortion, is it not taking a giant step backward to reverse Roe v. Wade?
Mrs. Palin appears to be a very energetic person. I'm sure she has done some wonderful things for her state. But can you picture her negotiating with Iran, Iraq, Russia, China? I would like to know that the person representing the US has more experience with Foreign Affairs. It quite frankly scares me. These are difficult times that need SEASONED politicians to help us get America back on the upswing.
What is it going to take to realize that a Republican in office has not worked?
Maybe these comments are from the rich that do not experience the extreme hardships of the average American.

I apologize for any incorrect grammar or misspellings (sp?)

Posted by: Loretta Myers on September 1, 2008 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK

Wow she could be the youngest vice president grandmother. Can the obama campaign start running ads like mccain using the Spears family since Mrs Palin and the Spears have so much in common. Unwed daughters having underaged sex ( isn't that a crime RAPE ) Is that the new republican tickets values, "children having children is O.K. as long as you vote for Mccain/Palin" Maybe underage sex is o.k. for republicans but it is not for the American people. Enough is enough I am Christan but can not go with the new values the republican party's has conceded to of allowing children to have children, maybe if she wasn't out campigning most of her life she could raise her 5 children first instead she will watch her child and yes she is a child raise a baby.

Posted by: Ed Faes on September 1, 2008 at 1:14 PM | PERMALINK

Wow she and her daughter can raise there babies together NOT! Mrs Palin has a 4 month old that she is not taking care of right now or for the next 4 to 8 years. She and her daughter will have babies that are 8-9 months apart in age. I believe in family values but can not accept child rape as o.k. as John McCain and Mrs Palin have done.

Yes we need to look at the issues of Iraq, economy, and American middleclass disappering.
But, Mrs Palin is a heartbeat away from a feeble old man from becoming Commander in chief and she cannot even control herself from having a baby at 43 years old and governor of a state and a 16 year old who had underaged sex. From the sound of Mrs Palin's comments about her daughters pregnacy that she consented to her daughter to have underage sex with another minor being the father two young lives that have to accept responibilities that there parent could not.

And to end is it getting sickening how the republicans are exploiting this Hurricane to show how they care soooo much by cutting the convention. And continually to tell everybody that they are doing so out of compassion to the victims. Why doesn't McCain send 100 million dollars to the victims he has the money. Hell why doesn't Bush and Chenney, Exxon mobil and all the other oil compainies send the first 2 billion dollars to aid them to show how much they care instead of the federal gov.
I 'll be holding my breath..

Posted by: Ed on September 1, 2008 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

Obama has so many plans already laid out.. Check out his web site, its got every issue abroad and lists specific plans for turning the country around.

If this campaign is voted on emotion Mccain wins if its voted on issues/plans Obama wins

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

Posted by: Jason on September 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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