I think Dan Quayle after his years of being vp was as ignorant and ill informed as he was in elementary school. Years, as we have seen in W, don't add up to wisdom. (Palin doesn't seem to have an abundance of wisdom, just talking points.)

Pure desperation.

Not only is this a "Hail Sarah" pass by McCain, it is a slap to every seasoned Republican politician currently on the national stage, telling them all they aren't as good as a beauty queen with a resume that fits on a postage stamp.

I guess Hilary said no.

Oh man, this really could be gold. This has to be the dumbest veep choice since Quayle.

And to think McCain wants to lead this country.

Palin has never been to Iraq. I'm looking forward to McCain denouncing her disinterest in the troops.

Palin's son is being deployed to Iraq with the Army. Does that count?

If he was going to take this angle he should have chosen Kay Bailey Hutchinson. I'm sorry but now it looks like he's chasing a little tail !

How is she going to debate Biden? Biden will have to be careful to not be dismissive when he does debate her. But it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.

Republicans will not being showing up in November.

McCain is in his two-minute offense and it's still the first quarter.

Can we enjoy Mitt, Giuli and Huckabee's humiliation for a few moments? Ah yes.

Actually McCain is using Palin to get some cheap shots in on Obama's experience a la Ron Fournier. "She's as experienced as Obama" they say.

That's Just What I Said

If he was going to take this angle he should have chosen Kay Bailey Hutchinson. I'm sorry but now it looks like he's chasing a little tail !

How is she going to debate Biden? Biden will have to be careful to not be dismissive when he does debate her. But it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.

Republicans will not being showing up in November.

It seems that Palin was an attempt to get the far right. However, one segment may have a problem with her - the anti-Harry Potter bunch. She named two of her daughters after TV witches.

I'm stunned. He misspelled 'students'? How do you do that?

From Newsmax.com interview:

Newsmax: "What is your take on global warming and how is it affecting our country?"

Sarah Palin: "A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I'm not one though who would attribute it to being man-made."

Like Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, Sarah Palin deliberately deceives the American people about the reality of anthropogenic global warming to protect the trillion-dollar profits of the oil corporations.

Like Dick Cheney, George W. Bush and John McCain, Palin disparages and discourages investment in efficiency and clean, renewable energy technologies, and demands that the American people hand over precious, irreplaceable public resources to her cronies and financial backers in the fossil fuel industry, so they can drill for more oil both offshore and in ANWR.

Alaska is, indeed, already experiencing some of the worst impacts of global warming of any state in the country, and is extremely vulnerable to the escalating effects of global warming, which is more rapid and more severe in the polar regions.

But by denying the scientific reality of anthropogenic global warming, Palin helps to perpetuate practices which threaten not only the lives and livelihoods of the people of her own state, but threaten to bring impoverishment, displacement, famine and death upon hundreds of millions of people all over the world.

She is more reprehensible than a holocaust denier.

Government of, by and for ExxonMobil is not the change we need. It's more of the same.

Sorry about the double post.

One more thing -- McCain has effectively hamstrung his supporters argument on experience.

It's good to see that this was written by a guest. I was afraid that Kevin had suddenly turned stupid.

Priceless.
Well he did get the attention away from the greatest political speech ever made. Now everyone is talking about his choice and what an idiot he is.

natural cynic,

I suppose, though, I'd rather be named after a wizard than a branch of mathematics or something cars drive on.

Also, has anyone mentioned she did a fashion spread in Vogue.

Who's the celeb, now?

I was afraid that Kevin had suddenly turned stupid. -Redmond

Yeah, wouldn't want to do anything stupid, like overlook the fact that Kevin Drum moved to Mother Jones and Steve Benen now writes the Political Animal blog.

Nope, sure wouldn't want to be stupid.

Romney and Pawlenty are pissed? How about Snowe and Hutchison?

McCain may find out what Fritz Mondale learned in 1984. It is just shrewed politics if you pick a white male because he is southern or Catholic or from a key state. But pick a woman? Why that is just pure plain and simple politically pandering.

I have to say that I think all of the attacks on Palin that I have heard so far today seem like pretty thin beer to me. The "scandal" with her brother-in-law is not likely to gain much traction for instance. I have also felt that the whole experience issue was pretty overrated. Truth is that no one really has the experience to be President except the President.

Honestly, a lot of the attacks just seem like wild flailing about to me. Absent anything new, or until she utters some gaffe, I think the best bet here would be to take it down a notch and focus on her right wing orientation on some of the social issues.

Oh noes!

Missing emails from the governor's mansion in Alaska!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/211443.php

By my calculation, McCain must think that the correct qualifications for president or vice president is between two years as governor of a wilderness state and 5 1/2 years as a POW.

Steve Benen, I think you ought to run the "Dead Parrot" sketch with Michael Palin.

Seriously, what better metaphor for McPOW than a dead parrot?

* In a few years, Palin may be as accomplished as Dan Quayle was in '88.

As of today, Palin is more accomplished than Obama. Further, Democrats were giving serious consideration to Kaine, governor of Virginia since 2006, who assumed office the same year as Palin.

I think the best bet here would be to take it down a notch and focus on her right wing orientation on some of the social issues.

Exactly.

Well he did get the attention away from the greatest political speech ever made. Now everyone is talking about his choice and what an idiot he is.

LOLZ

I'm stunned. He misspelled 'students'? How do you do that?
Posted by: MarkH

He used student's inappropriately. (Now he wants to use VP's inappropriately.

That's Just What I Said

Palin has never been to Iraq. I'm looking forward to McCain denouncing her disinterest in the troops.

I've seen a pic of Palin visting the troops in Germany. Or so the caption said...

To another commenter: the pencils had

Student's for McCain

with the apostrophe as such.

As of today, Palin is more accomplished than Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UcVB1qMcTA

Rove on how many years of gubatorial service and how big a city makes one VP-worthy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-jrk2e0MMs

Hey stupid liberals, shut your traps, Mayor Palin is a GRATE pick for Vice President!

Veep. To. Nowhere.

Feminists for Life, the outfit Sarah Palin proudly belongs, holds that it is more than just an anti-abortion organization. "FFL often works in coalitions with other organizations on other issues. For example, the Massachusetts FFL core group teamed up with the Massachusetts Citizens Against the Death Penalty to testify against capital punishment in legislative hearings in Massachusetts. In working on various issues, FFL and other organizations with which they act in coalitions, act according to a concept called 'consistent ethic of life,' a term coined by the late Cardinal Bernadin, meaning pro-life (anti-abortion), anti-capital punishment, anti-euthanasia, as well as anti-war, anti-nuclear armament, etc. That is to say, these organizations are against the taking of life in each of these circumstances. Each organization in the coalition will not necessarily work directly on all these issues, but they will not act in contradiction to the 'consistent ethic of life' principle. For example, the coalition will not include an organization that is pro-life and pro-death penalty." (Found at http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/3716/FFLApaper.html#politics ) I wonder how much Palin goes along with the "anti-capital punishment, anti-euthanasia, as well as anti-war, anti-nuclear armament, etc." stuff. If the Democratic VP nominee was prominent in a group with those goals, the nutters would have a field day.

I'm suspicious that the McCain camp is pulling a Harriet Miers on us. Palin will withdraw in a few days' time, citing family reasons and Mittens will come back, touted as the experienced and non-crazy VP candidate.

A last note on the new Republican VP pick: McCain likes long shots, taking chances,hotdogging and always assumes (because he's born to military aristocracy?) the he'll somehow pull out of the dive, land the plane, and get home despite terrible judgment and errors. He's as wild and dangerous as ever: he only flipflops on policy and promises.

I predict we will see some prominent and respected Republicans abandon John McCain after this. I also think this may compromise his stranglehold on the military vote. This very well may be remebered as one of the worst political moves in our history.

He'll get a few days of Twilight Zone-like publicity then he'll have to live the the decision;

She is more reprehensible than a holocaust denier.

But she's a hockey mom :-)

Chew on this for a second, fellow Democrats.

If by some miracle McCain wins the election, then we get to wonder when, not if, McCain dies in office. Then the United States of America gets the mayor of Visalia (pop. 6,700) as Commander-in-Chief. Just think about it. Her finger on the nuclear football, going toe to toe with the likes of Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Il, Hugo Chavez, Hammas, Hezbullah and al Qaeda.

Sleep tight, my friends.

I predict we will see some prominent and respected Republicans abandon John McCain after this. I also think this may compromise his stranglehold on the military vote. This very well may be remebered as one of the worst political moves in our history.

Our boys and girls in the armed services are already donating 6-1 in favor of my man Barack Obama.

What's the over/under on that ratio going up to 10-1 now that Mayor Palin is on the ticket?

The result was one for the books. People are going to be talking about last night for quite a while.

This was posted on this blog 12 hours ago. Now, what happened last night???

natural cynic: "one segment may have a problem with her - the anti-Harry Potter bunch. She named two of her daughters after TV witches."

Don't which other one you're thinking of, but Willow was probably named for the town in Alaska. Her other daughter, Bristol, was named for the bay where the Palins fish. Seems they like to name their children after where they were conceived. Note that her newborn son's middle name is Van.

As of today, Palin is more accomplished than Obama.

The idea that the best experience is gubernatorial/mayoral experience is dim-witted and of recent vintage. It came out of the fact that W was a governor and Gore was a Senator. You could have writen, using the same logic, that she is more accomplished than McCain.

The Obama campaign's paid staff all by itself is larger than the entire government of Alaska; and there are five times more Obama volunteers and donors than there are residents of that state.

So, even if Obama had never held a single elected office, merely running his campaign gives him more executive experience than Palin has ever had.

I think it's not unreasonable for Sarah Palin to suddenly reconsider and withdraw before the convention. She will have served the purpose of deflating Obama's post-convention bounce.

I'm hoping Palin turns out to have the same effect on the ticket as Ferraro, rather than Quayle. Apparently Geraldine Ferraro likes Palin.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/2646884/Geraldine-Ferraro-A-salutary-tale-for-Republicans.html

Still, McCain has clearly blown Obama's speech off the top of the news cycle.

That might actually be good for us, as 38 million people heard Obama on the principal TV channels, plus even more on PBS and cable, so with the talking heads off chasing another shiny object, people may actually have to decide for themselves whether they liked Obama, without being told fibs and spin by R-friendly commentators.

On top of that, McCain wins today by not having anyone talk about his birthday.

Still, back to Obama and the convention. What did people think about all those generals & admirals etc.? That was my biggest surprise. My reactions were that, first, my image of what top military officials look like has been significantly expanded; second, that that was a bucket-load of Democrat-supporting brass; and third, that Bush must have really really really pissed off the military far beyond my wildest imagining. Also, it's a bit scary seeing top military taking strong political positions (glad they're on my side, but how about next time?). Lastly, I would think that the line-up of military supporting Obama would worry Republicans a lot, except that I recall all the top officers suporting Kerry to no apparent effect whatsoever.

Overall, I thought the Democrats did a great job of gradually building their case during the convention, and in building excitement and keeping things moving along. I thought Brian Schweitzer and Michelle Obama were great, and that Kerry, Biden, Richardson, and Hillary gave speeches that were among the best that I've heard them give. I suspect that, sadly, none of this will have much of an effect on the "underinformed voters", but maybe re-energizing the base will be sufficient. It inspired me to give some more money, anyway (even before all the begging e-mails that arrived this morning).

Student's for McCain

I sort of like that version. Instead of using the plural, implying a gathering of multiple students, it's a contraction of student is. Somewhere in this great country, surely some individual "student's for McCain."

But he or she must be awfully lonely.

This comment from the Romney and Pawlenty are pissed WaPo entry:

not like that angry hillary and her idiot husband. sarah palin is a real woman who knows how to keep her family strong. i bet she gladly gets dressed up in a little teddy and swallows her mans load and will even give up the boodie. would hillary do that? no. that is why her man had to get with a fat chick but our chicks are smokin hot and know how to keep us honest. mccain/palin 08!

Christ on a crutch.

And this:

Mitt, You and McCain are Republicans. Cunning and betrayal is what you all do best.

Heh.

Beehive hairdo? Is she an Alba fan? Fonzi?

She's so retro. Fits right in the McCain/Bush patina.

More people watched Obama last night than the opening ceremony of the Olympics (at least in America).

Palin's already gaffing and theres already tape embarrassment, there's the lack of knowledge about the job, and those missing emails, among other issues. What we don't know (yet) is how Rove pulled these strings, since this is too important a decision to be left to McSame. Rove runs everything else in the campaign, this has to be part of it as well.

I've seen it described elsewhere that this is the opening of the Petraeus 2012 campaign, if unofficially, but there are two things that argue against that theory:

1. Obama would be the incumbent then, and easily more popular than W, and therefore much harder to dislodge.
2. Allowing an Obama WH means prosecutions for the Bush/Rove/Cheney cabal, and that means jail time. At the very least we would expect to see a serious effort to dig up the emails, etc., already under subpoena which means really bad press for the RSRs.

So, my two cents argues that this is all about pulling a rabbit out of the hat late, a Manchurian candidate to step in when McSame has to drop out for any of a number of reasons (age, cancer, etc.) with a limited time for oppo research. If the cabal works it right, it will be someone so tied in with them that prosecution will never happen.

Petraeus in 2008? He's already said no, but those in the know paint him as an opportunist who [while losing nine billion (no typo) dollars in cash as well as lots of AK-47s too in Iraq] would only be too happy to move on up.

You slander the McCain campaign when you suggest that the inscription "student's for McCain" is a misspelling. It is a hep kewl kid contract of the full remarkable claim "A student is for McCain." Now this is be another lie unless they have, indeed, found one whole student who supports McCain (more likely than not, so long as they count enrolees in anger management classes as students) but it is correctly spelled and almost grammatical in spite of rule that says that article is required in sentence.

BlooperFest '08 begins in earnest:

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/palin_probe_could_mean_election.php

Meanwhile, Gustav is officially a hurricane again.

I hate to tell McCain, but the nine days' wonder of a chick as VP is not going to survive another hurricane hitting New Orleans right before the convention.

Veep. To. Nowhere.
Posted by: ROTFLMLiberalAO

Love it! If McCain gets elected, Republicans putting the first female in the White House will be the least of our troubles.

That's Just What I Said

robert waldmann - Please don't write about grammar or punctuation, even if you are hep kewl.

So, Old McPOW got himself a piece of cheesecake for his birthday? How unoriginal...

I wanted to see how Palin's education compared to Hillary's (what can I say; in my family, we're suckers for solid schooling) and found this:
http://tinyurl.com/5sdzyd
Majored in *journalism*???? Doesn't it make her a tad liberal? OTOH... Of course, it puts her right with Old Man's "base"; she'll keep him well "sprinkled" (if Cindy allows it)

Democrats were giving serious consideration to Kaine, governor of Virginia since 2006, who assumed office the same year as Palin. -- TangoMan, @18:03

And would you like to compare their respective *mayoral* experiences too? Richmond (a capital of a state) vs Wasilla?

Mark H, @17:50,
It wasn't so much a misspelling as a grammatical error; apparently, the Old Man's campaign doesn't know the difference between plural and possessive (Student's for McCain). Hopefully, that's where the journalism major (from Idaho) of his new VP will become relevant in the future.

Still, McCain has clearly blown Obama's speech off the top of the news cycle.

I turned on Fox a few minutes ago, and Brit Hume and the panel were (glumly) talking about Obama's speech.

Amen, Rick B. And how many distinguished Republicans (and least a few!) will come out with very strong language repudiating such a choice? Since when is a Veep choice driven by a young blogger and Limbaugh?

[...]unless they have, indeed, found one whole student who supports McCain [...] -- robert waldman, @18:43

That is *precisely* why I'm inclined to think that what was intended here was not a contraction of "student is", but a possessive. "[One] student's [dick] for McCain".

I just heard on MSNBC that McCain has only met this lady ONCE. Once!

Palin Positions You May Not Know About:

1. Creationist who wants Creationism taught in schools.

2. Denies Global Warming exists

3. Anti-Abortion, including in situations or rape and/or incest.

4. Supported Pat Buchanan in 2000.

5. Agreed with Barack’s Energy Policy as of… 24 days ago.

6. Said… 25 days ago.. that she didn’t even know what the VP does.

7. Under investigation by Special Prosecutor in Alaska for possible ethics violations.

8. Entire Alaska budget is only $2.9B, less than most medium sized cities in the USA. For example, San Diego, CA, has a City Budget of 3.29B

9. She vetoed wind power and clean coal projects, including a 50-megawatt wind farm on Fire Island and a clean coal facility in Healy that had been mired in a dispute between local and state governments.

10. McCain offered her the job after meeting her one. I’ll repeat that… ONCE.

McCain offered her the job after meeting her one. I’ll repeat that… ONCE.

Well...she's his type.

So how long until Larry Flynt publishes nude fotos of John McCain's pick for vice?

Heh, was that after meating her once?

SNL and Leno will have a ball with this.

McCain's incipient senility

1) Steve Benen noted that McCain had to read Palin's name off of a piece of paper today. That means this was Rove's selection. I suspect most agree with that.

2) The fact that Rove is calling the shots means that McCain is a shell of his former self. He would not have ceded control like this in 2000. No fighter pilot jock, with an ego founded on straight-talking would...

Conclusion:

We all know seventy year olds. Some mentally agile, some mere shells of their former selves. We've speculated often on McCain's agility.

Given 1) and 2) I conclude McCain is a mere shell. He no longer has his full mental capabilities. His neocortex is rotting away. Note that Michael O'Hare over at Kleiman's blog calculated the odds of McCain dying within four years at one-in-six. The argument was made to shout out the possibility of a Palin presidency.

The next argument that needs to made is:

What are the odds that McCain will have to be removed from office because of senility?
And what provisions do we have for this exigency?

I just heard on MSNBC that McCain has only met this lady ONCE. Once!

Hey, do you blame him? She was Miss Congeniality and plays the flute. Even Mrs. McCain was never Miss Congeniality.

EddieInCA:

Killer catechism.
Edit in some links and spread it wide.
It is devastating.

Sarah Palin?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Harriet Miers with an updo.

How foolish to deep six his most effective argument against Obama: inexperience.

What a maroon.

Sarah Palin will be an excellent VP candidate. For the Democratic Party. It's as if John McCain spent long hours thinking of the worst thing he could do to ruin his chances of winning, and decided it was her.

Maybe it's an admission that he knows he has no chance of success and would just rather spend the last few months of the campaign with a hot babe instead of some cranky neocon insider.

At least she's given us the term VPILF to add to the national subconscious. And I swear I did not make this up:

http://www.vpilf.com/

Have a great Labor Day Weekend!! :)

I hadn't heard that one, Curmudgeon.Tboggs calls Governor Palin a GILF.

That's Just What I Said

A poster on HuffPo claims that he has contacts within the Romney campaign who told him that Palin was the last choice, not the best choice.

What he was told was that Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, Kay Bailey Hutchinson and Bobby Jindal all turned down the offer of the veep spot before it was offered to Palin.

It occurs to me that this is a fairly big story should it prove to be true. Any possibility of bloggers/journalists checking it out?

Now we know why McCain got that couch for the airplane.

Cindy is thinking. I don't like this. I don't like this one bit.

McCain had to read her name. I'm surprised he didn't have to open an envelope and read the winner.

That's Just What I Said

Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, Kay Bailey Hutchinson and Bobby Jindal all turned down the offer of the veep spot before it was offered to Palin.

Yeah, and I turned down a bj from Sharon Stone.

as an Alaskan this Palin buisness is really distressing. We've got a good thing going on up here and the last thing we need was more attention. Things are different up here, economically, politically, socially, a good part of the state is populated by people who don't like and couldn't imagine living in the rest of the country. With the PFD checks coming out in the heat of political season, with the rest of the nations economy floundering, I don't like thinking of what all the attention on that issue will bring. Wasilla, Palin's hometown, would scare most Americans. Despite it's potential to doom McCain it is sad day up here.

http://www.dongshow-productions.com

What does it mean that an entire political party cannot contemplate a woman in a position of power without immediately reducing her to a sex object?

They're a bunch of infantile chickenhawks who have a deep hatred and fear of women?

Our boys and girls in the armed services are already donating 6-1 in favor of my man Barack Obama.

Well, no.

Obama's gotten 57% of the donations that have gone either of the nominees from men and women in the armed forces, he's leading McCain 6:1 in the very small universe of donations from military personnel stationed stationed abroad.

I'm really amazed that most people don't get it. This decision is the result of the Far Xtian Right teling John McCain that if he wants their support, this time it has to be a real quid pro quo: they get "one of ours" on the ticket. Not only that, but people are missing the fact that the 2008 Republican Party platform is completely Xtian Right on all policy points. People have wondered why McCain didn't try to exercise any control over the platform. It's because he has sold his soul to the Dobson/Perkins wing of the American theocracy.

Go read Jeff Sharlet's book, "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism At The Heart Of American Power." These people have been working for this day for 80 years.

We realy have come to the point of deciding whether we will remain America, the constitutional republic, or become America, the theocratic state. And polls show that about 45% of Americans would welcome the latter.

This may seem like an act of lunacy to people in "the reality-based community," but all the arguments about her "experience," etc., will mean nothing to these people. They're the ones who elected the manifestly-moronic George W. Bush because he told them his favorite political philosopher was Jesus Christ. He was "one of us." This act on the part of McCain will bring these people out like they came out in 2004 for Bush.

They aren't worried about the economy, they think the war in Iraq presages the Armageddon they pray for, they're voting to bring The End Times.

I am a Obama supporteR 100%. Mccain and his running mate have no business to run this country due to lack of experience and their beliefs. Mccain, picked the alaskian govenor due to oil!!! Do you see how this relates? Mccain is another Bush. He doesn't care about education,enviornment,minimum wage or poverty.He will do nothing to improve our country it will only get worse!! Mccain, does not want peace in this world and thinks they can run the iraq army. Wronggg ....you can not do that. To make this economy better we must remove the troops and make peace in this world. This economy is getting worse and worse we need a positive change Obama can do this. Obama wants to improve health care benefits to children by providing health care to all, he wants to fund higher education in the first yeat of college, he supports medical and scientific research to find cures to diseases. He supports women in science and math, he wants peace in this world. OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!! NO ONE ELSE!!!!

For those of you who didn't read the WaPo link about Romney and Pawlenty being pissed, there was also this from two-bit whore Howard Wolfson:

"The fact that Palin is pro-life and pro-gun will be a block for many of Senator Clinton's supporters -- but not all. And it will raise the question for many why Senator Obama didn't pick Senator Clinton as his running mate."

Uh, no, it won't. We all understand that you can't choose as your running mate someone who just a few months ago argued that you are not qualified to serve as Commander in Chief but your Republican opponent is. As for the pro-life and pro-gun positions not being a block for all of Clinton's supporters, those are people generally known as Republicans. You'd be hard pressed to find any women who are loyal Democrats - i.e. those who did not cross over and vote for Bush because he promised to give them a couple of hundred dollars in a one-time tax break - who will cross over and vote for a ticket that is adamantly anti-choice, even if one of those on that ticket does have a vagina.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

has its better and worse days, like any other blog. Today is one of the better ones. On the subject of Palin but also on the other news from Baked Alaska:

Alaska Update

The dogsled with the votes from the Village of Hughes arrived and were counted. Big disappointment. They're all Democrats up there. Nobody voted in the Republican primary. So Don Young still leads Sean Parnell statewide by about 150 votes with several thousand absentee ballots yet to be counted next week. The primary is important. If Parnell wins, the Republicans will probably hold the House seat. If Young wins, it will probably flip to the Democrats.

As I look at McCain's other VP possibilities, I come to the conclusion that no one he would have picked would have been any better than Palin. They might have more experience but it's still that screwed up Republican experience that McCain has. Experience at looking at things through corrupt and warmongering eyes.

That's Just What I Said

I'm really amazed that most people don't get it.

I think people do get that, actually. The Palin pick has produced some of the same reaction that greeted McCain's breathtaking about-face in 2004. After all, how could someone so mavericky and moderate and heroic prostrate himself so shamelessly before the Bush radicals?

McCain is a fraud and a hack who is willing to create a potential catastrophe for the country in order to get elected. But then, isn't that the m.o. for your modern-day GOP.

I still can't stop rolling of the floor...

Mark Kleiman on Sarah Palin, Geraldine Ferraro, and The Mitt:

... too bad that the Republicans also imitated the Democrats in coming up with a grossly under-qualified woman, especially now when there are some fully qualified alternatives. If he didn't want Condi Rice or Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Christine Todd Whitman or one of the female CEO's, how about Mitt Romney? Don't tell me the Mittster wouldn't have changed his gender for a shot at the Oval Office; he's already changed everything else.

http://www.samefacts.com/archives/campaign_2008_/2008/08/palin_the_stuff_keeps_pilin_up.php

Yeah, and I turned down a bj from Sharon Stone.
Posted by: Econobuzz

If Kevin were still running things you wouldn't get away with that one. :-)

PS If one of the tech people would replace the image, poli_ani_title.gif, with the image, pa_logo_byline.gif Kevin wouldn't still be previewing all our comments.

That's Just What I Said

Can Fox get any lower??

Probably.

if obama was snarky smart, he'd take mcmuffin's "passed over" ad and change only the words "hillary" to "romney" and any gender-specific words.

he won millions of votes. "but isn't on his ticket. "why? "for speaking the truth. "on his plans: "on his attacks: "the truth hurt. "and mccain didn't like it. obama : "i'm barrack obama and i approved this message."

Why not Monika Goodling? Oh. Experience. Right.

The only reason McCain was standing before crowd in Dayton was because he had been nailed there. Wonderful plumage! He was pinin' for the Alaskan fjords!

Since what McCain did in picking paltry Palin is so silly, we should call him McClown.

Taking the temperature of the tea leaves:

First, Palin is getting severely panned. Severely. By both Dems and Republicans. So here is my question: What gets jettisoned first? The convention before Gustav? Or Sarah before the convention?

Seriously.

Palin?
A blatant mistake if there ever was one. The republicans have got to find a way to throw her under the dog sled. Abort! And fast. She's got zero upside and is being ridiculed by anchors from Anchorage to Tallahassee.

She has gotta go.
The republicans need a dirty pic or something to get them out of this blizzard.

As of today, Romney and Pawlenty are pissed.

This is not fair and it is not balanced.

Mitt Romney and the other guy are team players. Mitt was my first choice. I am sure many of you agree.

Sarah will be a good VP. Mitt can still become President in 2012. You heard this from me first.

And I want to give a shout out to all of you who asked for McCain ticket to the big event in Dayton today. I won't name names due to peer pressure, but thanks for showing up for J-Mac in Dayton today. Big time.

Thank You

McCain Blog Outreach Coordinator

Because libs don't really care about Obama's day either - they just want to win power.

Yeah, it's called "politics."

Conservatives are called conservatives for a reason: they don't like changes to their social order like having a newbie woman from state in the sticks who isn't a known quantity jumping over the established old boys and getting the number two spot in the party hierarchy. I say McCain loses at least as many votes as he thinks he's going to gain from this misadventure.

The Dems will have some serious ammunition that after searching the nation for the best possible candidate for veep, Palin is the best the Republican Party could come up with. That doesn't say much about their talent pool.

Conservatives are called conservatives for a reason: they don't like changes to their social order like having a newbie woman from state in the sticks who isn't a known quantity jumping over the established old boys and getting the number two spot in the party hierarchy. I say McCain loses at least as many votes as he thinks he's going to gain from this misadventure.

The Dems will have some serious ammunition that after searching the nation for the best possible candidate for veep, Palin is the best the Republican Party could come up with. That doesn't say much about their talent pool.

McCain Bush Outreach Coordinator: which one of the 11 or 12 houses are you trying to keep in order?

I am glad that beauty contests will outstrip policy discussion in Minnesota.

The GOP convention or rotate the tires?

If you are Republican in 2008, you are either insane, moronic or evil. The "Palin" rider completes the apocalypse team. . .

The republicans need a dirty pic or something to get them out of this blizzard. -- ROTFLetc, @21:56

Among Palin's many talents is flute playing. You don't think this will be enough to remind them of that other "flautist" in the neighbourhood of the White House (Lewinsky)?

In all the commentary about McCain's pick, there's one missing: from Cindy. 'd be nice if she took him off her sugar mama's tit. And she could do it, too; all the houses are hers, the airplane is hers... If she were to ground him, he'd be bare butt to Alaska ice (with a barracuda swimming close)

I think that ignoring Romneys and Pawlenties speak volumes about McCain. Its all about pandering and all about McCain.

Sparko

Everyone knows John McCain.

People respect John McCain.

John McCain should have picked Mitt. Sarah will do fine, however.

Sparko you need to get out more. But Thank You for your interest in John McCain.

McCain Bush Outreach Coordinator

"She is more reprehensible than a holocaust denier."
-- SecularAnimist

And you call yourself shitwit!

There are more sanctimonious, half-witted, pin-headed, WWF class, organic fascist comments in this thread than Pat Robertson could imagine on LSD.

No wonder Democrats can't convince the electorate that they aren't the arrogant, elitist, closed-minded, malicious, cutthroat moonhowlers you represent.

I try not to get personal with my comments, but you and the Redneck Left are essential to the Republican base. You keep Karl Rove ticking. He depends on you.

And you always come though.

Eric Blair: ...with McCain, making a groundbreaking VP pick...

Were you referring to a woman as VP candidate? Hmmm.... Ferraro predates Palin by a couple decades, or don't you remember?

Or are you referring to the most unqualified choice for VP in modern history? In which case, yes, Palin is most definitely a groundbreaking pick.

Palin hits the fan.

Fired police chief calls Palin a liar.
Has emails to prove it:

http://www.samefacts.com/archives/campaign_2008_/2008/08/fired_police_chief_calls_palin_a_liar.php

God this is fun....

First the first time on this blog AliBubba makes some sense.

John McCain is against this type of nonsense and so should you.

Good on you Bubba.

Now Vote McCain!

McBOC

McPain Bush Troll Coordinator: Thanks for your interest in progressivism. I believe we know McCain very well now. He reminds me of a monarch of the 9th century. Divine rights and all of that. Here's the thing: Americans don't like monarchs who name successors like "Sarah the Unready." We don't even have time to instruct her on kingly duties. I suggest you have High Chancellor Rove imprison her in the tower of House #6 till such a time as she has mastered Latin. . .

Sparko you need to get out more.

Obama is right about McCain. He is not serious about securing the future of America. Any candidate who would potentially endanger the country out of political expediency is worthy not of respect but disdain and rejection.

Take a hike, Outreach Coordinator.

McCain puts Country between 9th and 15th...with a bullet.

That's Just What I Said

"I didn't decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president... In truth, I'd had the ambition for a long time." -- John McCain, "Worth the Fighting For"

Today, McCain removed all doubts as to the overwhelming and desperate nature of his ambition. He knows his time is running out, and yet would saddle the country with Palin just to achieve his ego-driven ends. Country first, my ass.

And McCain has flip-flopped on at least 78 issues (what's the exact total today, Steve?) in the space of a few months. Quite the Maverick. When Rove says jump, McCain pulls the ejection lever. And even selected Sarah the Unready(??) to ensure that the nobles remain in control should his health zonk out like his ideas have. . .
I think chess notation is best when discussing McCain's "strategy."

PXP ???

Queen to K8 Mate (Blue wins--wait till you see a Wolfson-free Hillary attack!)

hey outreach coordinator! If Palin is going to be such a great vp, wouldn't she be in line in 2012, not mittens?

Oh right, that was satire. Got it.

McCain Bush Outreach Coordinator: Sarah will do fine, however.

Yeah, as a door stop. Just imagine those late night policy debates between McCain and Palin. That McCain was so desperate as to made such an offer, and she was naive and stupid enough to accept his offer, reflects badly on both of them.

Poor Sparko

Work Harder dude. America is big enough for everybody.

Can't we all get along?

McBush Minion: "Can't we all get along?"

Hmm, would have to ask the NSA. They have the transcripts. I am hoping the "Serfs Up!" in 2009. The GOP has a bit of a Fiefdom problem. Sarah the Unready has a VERY limited dowry too.

Sparko:

I think chess notation is best when discussing McCain's "strategy."
PXP ???
Queen to K8 Mate (Blue wins--wait till you see a Wolfson-free Hillary attack!)

Sparko

I am on the good list. It gets checked twice.

Apparently you are on the bad list. We all make our own beds. Enjoy yours. Not my fault that dilligent peeps may include you.

When J-Mac is Pres, drop me a line and I'll get you off the Watch list..

Thank You

McBOC

Any candidate who would potentially endanger the country out of political expediency is worthy not of respect but disdain and rejection.

For FIVE AND A HALF YEARS McCain was a prisoner of war, PREVENTED by the NORTH VIETNAMESE from being able to endanger his country out of political expediency! FIVE AND A HALF YEARS! FIVE AND A HALF YEARS! FIVE AND A HALF YEARS!

Steve: "Anything to add?"

Yes, I have.

Walter Monegan speaks, and the vengeful portraits the former Alaska Public Safety Commissioner paints of the woman who would be vice president and her steelworker husband are certainly not flattering ones.

I'm sure there's more coming our way on this sordid little family drama, all of which apparently escalated from a bitter child custody disagreement between Palin's sister Molly and her ex-husband, Michael Wooten, who served until recently as an Alaska state trooper.

If the incident in question did in fact occur as Monegan has alleged, Gov. Palin stands accused of using her office to conduct a petty personal vendetta against a former family member. And for that gross abuse of the public trust, she could well be subject to impeachment proceedings by a very unfriendly state legislature.

"First the first time on this blog AliBubba makes some sense."

So, you're as worried about the Atomic Mole People as I am.

John and what's-her-name have a plan, y'know. Not a very good one, but it's in place. Pretty much.

Thanks to all you that made the trip to Dayton today to hang with J-Mac.

One request. Our peeps are not trolls. The peeps are talent.

Please treat our peeps respectfully. This is not a easy forum for them to enter.

Thank You. Truth Matters.

McBOC

ROTFLMLiberalAO said: The republicans need a dirty pic or something to get them out of this blizzard.
Isn't that what photoshop is for? Can't they ask some of those Fox News artists to doctor some pictures; they've done it before.

Watching old McC*nt fawning over his new bit of tail makes me wonder how long it will be till Cindy laments "Well, John is just a 72 year-old who wants to be 40" ?

I don't understand why there is so much speculation about what if Palin becomes president, when President McCain dies in office.

When McCain dies, he will have a Senatorial burial, not a Presidential one.

As far as Palin is concerned, she will still be the Governor of Alaska, but with a LOT more name recognition.

The Republicans are NOT going to win the White House in 2008. It's just not realistic. I believe that any sensible Republican politician nicely declined McCain's invitation to be his VP. the serious candidates on the Republican side, are preparing themselves for 2012. They're proving their bonafides in the trenches this election cycle.

I suggest we stop worrying about the potential of McCain being President. Spread the word in a positive manner about what Obama has to offer. Take a hint from our McBOC and his unruly minnows. You have to give it to McBOC and his positive attitude - regardless of how misplaced it is - he doesn't insult anybody by calling them names.

I wonder if 'nice' liberals would get the same reception at some of the Right Wing blogs, if you were to try educating some rednecks there?

VOTE DIGBY-CLARK-2008---VOTE THE INTERNET digby's a woman.(singular-contraction)

Why would someone who is pro-life, where there is no question that no matter what the results she's having the baby, have amniocentesis in the first place?

McCain must be completely clueless about the women's vote. A female Hillary supporter was asked by the local news here what she thought of the choice and she summed it up pretty succinctly: "Does he think women are just interchangeable?" And while Palin's current bouncy excitement about being the new Republican VP pick may be initially kind of refreshing, I see the Saturday Night parody developing even as we write. She's got a way too perky 'captain of the cheerleading squad' quality about her that is going to get annoying really fast.

Please remember she will actually be deposed befire the election in her troopergate scandal involving the firing of the state's top cop. To paraphrase Jay Leno to Hugh Grant, "What was he thinking?"

Some of the pluses (few) and minuses (many) of the pick are rounded-up here:
"Sarah Palin: The New Harrier Miers -- or Dan Quayle in Drag"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/art-levine/sarah-palin-the-new-harri_b_122582.html

O man! This is amazing. Guess I am qualified to be VP, then, too?

The folks who have claimed McCain is more than a little senile are apparently right.

Either that, or it's desperation. I do think his candidacy is doomed.

AND she doesn't care about polar bears?

She just lost the animal/wildlife vote as well.

I don't know anyone, dem or repub, who doesn't care about polar bears (the poor things).

Only 25,000 left, vs. 7 billion people.

McCain would do better with a polar bear as VP!

You have to give it to McBOC and his positive attitude...

If creepy, passive-aggressive zombie-like incantations are your idea of "positive", OK.

But you're right, the doomsday scenario of another Dubya-like puppet for amen imperialism will not come to pass, because Obama is going to win.

Tim Pawlenty has every right to be pissed off. While everyone else was abandoning ship from the McCain campaign in the summer of 2007, Pawlenty stayed loyal and campaigned his arse off for McCain when everyone thought he was a loser. I would have thought that sense loyalty McCain has as a military man would have made an impression on him but apparently not. Now, unless McCain wins and offers Pawlenty a cabinet post (Dept. of Transportation more than likely), his political future on the national stage is shot. He could run for governor again and win in 2012 but he could not win a Senate seat against Amy Klobuchar as long as she remains popular. He's no more presidential material on his own than Jim Gilmore was. McCain used him and left him and that all there is too it.

As for Romney, McCain doesn't like him which is why I knew he'd never get asked. His future is shot too because most Republicans don't like him either. Back to the boardroom for Mitt.

The Palin pick was a staff pick. McCain wanted Lieberman but Karl Rove and his team talked him out of it. McCain is becoming more and more a creature of his Rovian staff every day and that may very well turn out to be how his Administration will when its filled with neocons.

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We all know that history is not a liberal strong point

We all know that revisionist history is not a liberal strong point...

Fixed it for ya!

Blue Girl: I can only imagine what MHR said. Must have been pretty funny. I compare the GOP to 9th century monarchs because they aren't very good.

A governor with a 80% approval rating while 87% of Alaskans are positive that she's lying about her hand in having or trying to have her ex brother-in-law fired. Governor Palin appears to be very well-spoken, an advocate of political reform and yes a self-described hockey mom. But she's also a blatant liar who didn't think her plan to attempt to cover up her oldest daughters pregnancy would ever come back to haunt her.