Good words to be used to be thrown back into his/McSame's/Palin's faces.

Palin shares a similar ideological identity as Dick Cheney who has a national approval rating of about 13%. Put a dress on Cheney. Add a high pitched, irritating voice. Add enough spin to make darkness into light and what do you get? The reformer, reforming Cheney into Palin, without the experience.

Karl, meet Sarah Palin

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C'mon, beee-atch! Kaine aint HOT!

Rule of thumb for anything Rove says:

Whatever he accuses his opponent of, is what he's doing himself.

He was telegraphing what they planned to do to see what the reaction would be.

McCain/Palin is like manna from heaven. What McCain has to do now is effectively restart, re-imagine and reconceptualize his campaign. Virtually all of his arguments are out the window. THere's no question that the Republican convention will be all about national security and terrorism, but its going to be very hard to make the case and present John McCain as the steward of or national saftey when his actions in choosing Palin were reckless and irresponsible beyond description.

John McCain has put his age, judgement and temperment front and center. Its all now fair game. He'll get a few days of Twilight Zone publicity over this, but then he stuck with the decision he's made. I'm guessing the media doesn't play his game this time. There's blood in the water with this, and I don't see the media resisting. Palin will throw the convention into disaray, they'll have to scramble to make sence of her, and McCain's acceptance speech will most likely be a disaster, especially compared to Obama's.

Let's be honest, who is she really going to appeal to? She's pretty rabidly pro-life and she's a creationist. She will only appeal to the extreme element of the Republican base. Middle class voters, swing voters...people who've been hit hard by the bad economy are feeling alot anxiety. I don't think they're interested in "stunts."

Come on! IOKIYAR.

Palin. All the Cheney without the Dick*.

*Borrowed from Ripper McCord

Thanks for the freebie, Karl.

Democrats won't have to comment much on this one. Palin will have to pull off a meteoric rise more stunning than Obama's, and some Republicans will have to grow up a little in order to make this pick work.

Kind of off thread here, but as an outdoor person , I cannot imagine anyone from the state of Alaska, who enjoys the hunting and fishing in such a wonderful environment, could possibly entertain the thought of moving to Washington, D.C. Would her husband follow? Certainly not if he intended to keep working and doing his commercial fishing gig. She would probably be the most absentee VP ever. What can she be thinking? Country first? Not sure her life, including that of a new mother, is really compatible with the sacrifices that will be required.

Rules only apply to Democrats, you know that. Haven't you figured out how this game is rigged yet?

Karol Rove has a way about himself that reveals that unique characteristic of self indulgence to power, greed, and money. Let’s face it; Karol Rove knows he has a constituency of millions in Right Wing voters that can not wait to cheer, support, and further America’s grief in cultural development. Its interesting the way Steven and Kilzoy point out that prism’s for Judgement are specially used and made according to Karol Rove.

Charles Lewis has a book out called “The Buying of The President�, in it illustrates Karol Rove openly teaching his negative politicking skills in the University classes in Texas, and likely others. Hell, America is exampled right here in this article by Rove’s slick contextual mix via Fox. Imagine all this time that political decisions made and encouraged by Rove and executed by Bush and Company in the Iraq war, or in those secret Mortgage prisms that are failures, or those Derivative Hedge Funds lining up at the Federal Reserve window for American middle class tax money from a blunder in trillion dollar mistakes to get recovery to stay the course. Here American tax dollars pay for their mistakes. I would like to get one of those prisms.

Another author, Jon Faulkner hits the target too, of America’s problem with Karol Rove and his complicit Mainstream Media. Faulkner points out very well, very accurately

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/16780

“Millions of Americans are ready and anxious to vote for Bush ll, McCain, the senile version. Why so many voters would do such a thing is entirely outside the province of rational explanation… Even a dumb animal learns that after it’s been burned a few times it doesn’t revisit the source of its injury… Certain men, driven by unfettered greed, will casually abandon all consideration of moral allowance in their driven pursuit of more, more, more. This is a form of mental illness.�

No wonder Hillary seeks Universal Health Care, they all need it don’t know it.

Rove's comments highlight McCain's dumbfoundingly reckless choice for VP, given his age and health issues. It make me question not only his judgment & responsibility to the American people but his mental soundness as well.

McCain isn’t a maverick, he’s a gambler.

Rove's attack on Obama's presumed political choice of VP should be the primary one we use against Palin's choice. Basically, all we need to say is "Is this really the most qualified person McCain could find?" That's it. Let's all skip the personal attacks on her, and just focus on asking why she was picked.

More inane coverage from Old Media--

At this moment, the top headline at WashingtonPost.com is "With VP Pick, McCain Reclaims Maverick Image".

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought McCain's maverick image arose out of the perception that he bucked his own party...not pandered to it.

Headline from the liberal media New York Times, for an article that is somewhat critical of Palin:

Sarah Heath Palin, an Outsider Who Charms

Come on, you bastards, do your job this time!

Re the media is going to jump on this... dunno about that. Don't forget they are ALL owned by right wing big business which does NOT want Obama to get in.

With comments like those Rove is likely to be hired to join Kristol on the op-ed page of the NYT.

For those in the reality based world Palin is a cynical and token, if not insulting, choice for VP. For the others, of whom there are far too many, she is everything they want: a right-wing ideologue they'd like to have a beer with - if only she wasn't a woman.

Does the unreality crowd care about her qualifications to replace McCain? I doubt it. Can Biden wipe her out in a debate on foreign policy? Absolutely. But she'll play the victim - he beat on a helpless, defenseless woman routine - if he's not careful. Her anti-abortion, creationist, drill, drill, drill for oil, will play well in many quarters.

Yes, McCain made a reckless, perhaps desperate, choice, but the Rethug spin machine can turn thin resumes into votes at will.

Republicans used to call the Democrats the party of "special" interests. McCain is appealing to the special interests on the far right wing of his party -- evangelicals, gun nuts, creationists, anti abortionists, fossil energy interests, anti government extremists, states' rights advocates, etc. Rather than uniting his party, McCain is fracturing it.

Oh,Oh. Could it be that once Mc* has the nomination with Palin playing to the base, he is going to make a strong shift back to maverick mode. With the media going along... He has to give independents and moderates a plausible excuse for not voting for the smarter, more charismatic black radical liberal. Expect McCain's agenda to sound more and more like Obama's.

I wish everyone would stop calling McChameleon's latest antics a game changer.Fact is contending for commanding the strongest nation and conventional warfare military is not a joke. Politics are not a joke and never will be. So people need to call John on this kind of bullshit and ask him to treat the process with dignity.

It is really amazing that americans do not demand that presidential candidates even pretend to take the process as a big deal.

Anyway...

Wrong angle of attack so far from Obama - going right at her lack of experience. That's walking right into Rove's trap. Instead, question the double-standard.

youtube of Rove's comments are here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-jrk2e0MMs

Americans are taught that anyone can grow up to be President. Apparently the growing up part doesn't matter, and it's just: anyone can be President. How sad that a great country has descended to such a travesty.

It really doesn't matter. GOP voters is already stripped down to the extremely low information nitwits and those in complete denial. Nothing will dissuade those two groups.

But for the GOP's horrible record of long term planning, I would believe that they are throwing this election to Obama so that the Dems are blamed for the inevitable fallout of Bush/Cheney's idiocy. But it's probably just turd blossom's inability to see beyond the tip of his nose.

1. Attack your opponents strength from your weakness.
2. Accuse your opponent of doing what you're doing. Just do it first.
3. Betray no shame at anything.

Ladies and gentlemen, do you want to be as powerful as Karl Rove? Memorize these 3 rules and pursue them like an alley cat in heat.

"no shame"

The mind boggles...the senses reel...

Dubya's iteration of this rule--"Mistakes?...None I can think of..."--will be the subject of PhD dissertations in Poli. Sci. Departments for decades.

Will the Republican faithful quail about supporting Palin as if she were their longest-held desire? Of course they won't. Rationales will trip from their tongues like water down Niagara Falls. These are people who now support torture. Prior to their political leaders deciding to use torture, I'd like to think that most Republicans would have punched you in the nose if you'd accused them of wanting to torture. That's the key.

One consistent Rove tactic has always been to attack the other guy for the very thing that he himself plans to do. The purpose is to insulated the Rove decision from attack.

"I think he's going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice," Rove said.

When McCain follows with exactly that type of choice, Rove deflects criticism by sayiing, "Well Obama did it, too" The MSM then prints- "They all do it" and the issue goes away.

Karl's thought process:
1) How am I going to fuck the American people today?

2) Who on the other side will I accuse of doing the same thing in order to give myself some cover?

Karl Rove is a turd - end of story! Unless you wish to shun the outhouse where he currently resides, one FOXNEWS! No quarter to Murdoch's perverse sense of the world! -Kevo

Kaine was also Lt. Governor for four years.

Is this a qualification for president? No, but how does being Lt. Governor of Virginia stack up against being mayor of Wasilla? Governor of Alaska? I guarantee the campaign for Lt. Governor involved more money, media, and outside interest than that for the Gov. of Alaska. If Palin has 1.5 years of useful experience then Kaine has 7 years of the same or better, not just the three as governor.

Just a random thought: Rove is just as described by other comments here; but he is definitely not stupid. His motivation in this choice (and for sure it was HIS choice) is to use two or three key (non)issues as a wedge. Revolving around science: 1) Creationism/ID in schools. She is for including it in schools. Many Americans agree so the election (and of course with the help of MSM) comes down to that!! 2) Climate change. Ditto, lots of Americans think that the evidence is still out on that and that human responsibility is unproven. If my guess is right, then Rove is attempting to make the campaign about science vs (extremist)Christianity. All he needs is for a small number of Obama supporters who are conservative Christians to change because of these themes and 'voila President Palin!!! BTW *A third item revolves around the whole 5 kids one of whom has Downs theme. Obviously anti birth-control as well as anti-abortion! Supports handicapped folks. She must be a great person ...WOW!!!

The convention is still a day or two away and this already has an Eagleton smell to it. I think people are obsessing too much about Palin, they should be wondering who will play the Shriver role in all this when the dust settles.

I'm sure that when McCain gives Palin the boot there will be plenty of spin masters out there trying to turn this dross into gold. "McCain has the mature judgement to admit his mistakes and correct them!!!" NOW THAT REALLY WILL SET HIM APART FROM BUSH

Steve, the ad writes itself, and it could be a nice, understated response to the pick:
1) Rove clips
2) clip of McCain stumbling in his intro of Palin
3) screen of her political experience, lined up to correspond to what Rove said
4) Screen: Had enough of this?

Wow, I am thrilled with this choice! C'mon, we all just watched Hillary get crushed by a man. Now McCain becomes the man who elevates a woman, who respects our aspirations! And do you know, Palin just had her fifth baby in April of this year? She understands me in a way that Obama never, ever could! And her baby has Downs! I respect this woman! And she is not running for number one, like the inexperienced guy on the other side. She's looking better and better.

I assume "Cn" means the inexperienced guy on the other side of the Palin ticket - after all, McCain hasn't exactly demonstrated a commanding grasp of the issues.

The Obama campaign should make this the centerpiece of a commercial to be run next week. Over and over and over. Actually, once should be enough.

Jesus, have these assholes ever been right about anything, ever?

I at first thought that TBlossum's comment meant that he was unaware of the possible VP candidates for the Republican ticket and had nothing to do with the selection process. But having read one of the above comments, it may actually be that he was throwing up a trial balloon to see how people would react. When he got no reaction, he went ahead with the selection of Palin. Who knows?

Someone in the Obama campaign, hire Jim M. (at 11:16AM) to make some ads for you.

But how could Karl not know this would come back to bite McCain later? I smell a rat ...

Rove's a traitor.

Throw him in jail.

Plus, Kaine was mayor of a mid-sized city with all the most troublesome social issues of large cities - a Philadelphia or St. Louis on a smaller scale. Palin was mayor of a strip-mall suburb of the single urban outpost in a state that otherwise resembles Lapland more than anyplace in the lower 48.

allbetsareoff is right, being a successful mayor of Richmond (also the state capital)is quite a feat, and to have gone from there to state office is another feat. The current mayor of Richmond is, by the way, former VA governor Douglas Wilder.

Let's also recall that, as a governed entity, Alaska isn't a real state. There is no state income tax at all; the state budget is filled by fools like you and me through mineral rights royalties. Palin will have never dealt at all with taxation issues.

Remember, these are Republican Operatives we are talking about. They have this one already worked out. According to Republican logic:

1) Obama had to pick someone who would at least have foreign relations experience.
2) Obama had to pick someone who would have more political experience. etc...
3) Karl Rove, as described in this post, sets the rules for the MSM where 'light weights' just won't do it for Obama.
-- Result Obama picks Joe Biden.
4) Karl Rove, is pretty sure of himself that because of his setting of the parameters, Obama had no other choice than to pick Biden.
-- Now comes the spin for his previous comments.
5) McCain has SOOOO much experience that he can pick someone with virtually no experience because John already has all the answers.
6) Plan B in the event you don't believe #5.. You back track a little, and still claim Palin has more executive exerience than Obama and Biden put together.

Problem:
a) She'd have more experience than McCain as well, using that logic.
b) Obama probably has more people on his payroll and volunteers in his campaign than the entire State of Alaska's State government employees - the ones Palin would be responsible for.

AFter all that... nothing really matters, because the MSM will keep on parading Republican talking heads making sense of the pick.

Love it. Just replay Karl's comments in an ad, then follow with a picture of Palin and the caption "Is she ready from Day One?"

A charade, sideshow, mere entertainment...that's all this election "cycle" is....just to keep the peeps distracted while behind the scenes, the international money grubbers are preparing their big salvo: the DESTRUCTION of the US, MEXICO and CANADIAN economies. The US is first, scheduled to blow up during September. Watch the price of gold to know when it's gonna happen. When it drops, GET YOUR MONEY OUT OF THE STOCK MARKET AND OUT OF THE BANKS.

As it is the dollar isn't worth much and will be worth even less soon. Then you're gonna see some shit.

Election? no wai. Cheney is here to stay.

Dictator for laaaaaahhhhf

Welcome to the Fourth Reich.

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