Way to stand by your wife and daughter, St. John.

Yes Steve lets remember that ANYTHING, ANYTHING

John McShitstain: Who's dick do I gotta suck now?

Yes Steve you said it - it sould be underlind bold and italics ANYTHING! They will stoop as low as they think neccessary to win this.

McCain has become Captain Queeg. He has lost it. Best to to ahead and rip off his epaulets and turn command over to a "saner" leader, such as Pat Dobson, Larry Craig, Lyndon LaRouche, or Mark Foley.

So, the only member of congress with real life experience being tortured, who signed a false confession under torture, so he presumably KNOWS that it is an unreliable and therefore ineffective interrogation technique, threw in the towel with the Republican base and signed off on a law that essentially authorized the US to do to suspected Muslim fundamentalists, what the North Vietnamese did to him, even though he knows in his deepest depths it is wrong, but will satisfy the red meat cravings of his party's base, has now hired people that he despises because they very publically did everything in their power to assassinate his character, to do the same thing to his opponents now...solely in order to win an election? And this is a surprise? How?

We already knew that McCain has no principles left and will do anything and take any policy position that he thinks will advance his electoral chances. Real presidential timber there...assuming you are one of the 29% of dead-enders who still think that Duh-bya is doing a heckuva job.

The Republican party has a darker side?!?!

Well, he couldn't beat 'em!

If you can't beat them, join them.

There's no room for bleeding hearts in politics.

The Republican party has a darker side?!?!

Yep. The ones who don't even bother to pretend to decency, unlike the friendly, "you'd have a beer with them" phonies who do.

John McCain's philosophyis if you can't snow'em smear'em

The Republican party has a darker side?!?!

I'm with martin on this one. The public side of the GOP supports torture, unconstitutional signing statements, the unitary Executive, FISA, and (a la Palin) the disintegration of the union. What darker position are they holding in reserve?

A man of honour, that John McCain. And decency, don't forget decency. Decency and honour.

Big problem here: The Eskew et al tactics work. Its not going to be enough to sit back and let the Republithugs implode, as well as that strategy seems to be going this week. I hope Obama has some arrows left in his quiver to deal with this. He's been too quiet for my taste the last few days. The high road 'families off limits' is pitch perfect, but he needs to start in on the other stuff NOW!

Eskew. Figures. McAce's team is now complete.

47 flip-flops, campaign based on falsehoods, innuendo, and out right lies, the doughnut-sprinkled MSM reluctantly, if not begrudgingly, beginning to desert the knuckle-head and his divisive choices, and McAce feels the need, not to turn the train around and lose with dignity, but to hire the penultimate smear artist. Wow. What a bozo.

If the MSM used this story line to paint McAce, just this one story line ,and beat it into the ground, that he is now just hired the guy who shot him and his family in the groin to ensure 8 years of Bushit, this election would be decided next week. This guy is so ,so, depressing. I mean Eskew sliced and diced McAce's whole family. He should be slapping this goon with a glove and meeting him outside for a duel, not paying him for a repeat performance.

"The evil men do live after them, the good is oft interred with their bones". Amen...

Ironic, isn't it? The Republicans are all crying foul about the Palin-daughter-story, yet McCain hires the man who smeared HIS daughter to hold her hand through the election! I worked for McCain in SC from 1999-2000, and I remember the things Bush et al. did to him -- the major smear being about his, well, racial slur daughter. This is just sad.

One word: Alzheimer's

Sorry guys, this shit won't flush. I was just watching a Liz Trotta interview on Fox and even SHE was coming down on Obama's side. LIZ TROTTA! Not sure Fox will put up the transcript but I'll keep checking for it. It was priceless.

John McCain is a Maverick and a PoW! And a Maverick!

This just shows how mavericky and PoWy he really is. If the Vietnamese couldn't get him to talk, you think silly ole Jake Trapper can.

McCain't/Palin 'never

Obviously, they want Palin to smear Obama.

I know, I know, I know!

Eskew is going to peddle the rumor that McCain's opponent fathered some black children!!

If McCain's willing to do this to win, he's willing to do just about anything.

You're just now realizing this?! What was your first clue? McCain sold his soul long ago - I guess all his flip-flops and sellouts to side with the "base" and the even darker side of the GOP were too subtle for you?

I suggest we change McCain's epithet from 'McSame' or 'McBush' to 'McDesperate.'

-Z

Just to remind you, it's Obama and Hillary Clinton who are the overly ambitious, do-anything-to-be-president politicians.

On a related noted, what is Chris Lehane up to?

On a different note, what the hell is it with the Republicans and the name Tucker? Tucker Bounds? Tucker Eskew? Tucker Carlson?

You GUESS "this means it's McCain who is turning to the darker side of Republican politics"???

After 72 flop-flips on everything he ever stood for in 2000? After "Drill here - drill now"? After picking the Wasilla Hillbillies for second family?

No wonder Wet-Start Johnny wouldn't answer those questions on "political honor" last week.

Just to remind you, it's Obama and Hillary Clinton who are the overly ambitious, do-anything-to-be-president politicians.

We needed to be reminded of your baseless opinions?

"Eskew is going to peddle the rumor that McCain's opponent fathered some black children!!"

No. Bristol Pailin's child...

"Obviously, they want Palin to smear Obama."

Maybe--more to emasculate both he and Biden, a la Anne Coulter.

I'm not holding my breath for the few vocal PUMA deadenders, but I hope this Palin business conclusively demonstrate to those independents and Nader supporters that there is a real difference between McCain and Obama, and the difference is night and day. Anyone who says otherwise is fatally naive or a GOOPer in drag.

The Republican party has a darker side?!?!

The Republican party has a lighter side?!?!

The Republican party has a lighter side?!?!

You can't get much lighter than white sheets.

-Z

Brian: I believe it comes from the usage of the medicated pads, "one who (uses) Tucks" they come in handy after the machine makes you 'take your medicine'

I bet Johnny Boy could use some cooling relief right about now...

"We needed to be reminded of your baseless opinions?"

I think I need to take some sort of class on how to express myself proper. I was being facetious, which I thought was obvious. I was mocking the claims made by the Republicans since the Clintons and Obamas arrived on the national stage.

I think I need to take some sort of class on how to express myself proper.

And I need to take some lessons on how to spot facetiousness. Especially when it's a stable of my own posts. My apologies, Brian. :)

I think I need to take some sort of class on how to express myself proper.

And I need to take some lessons on how to spot facetiousness. Especially when it's a staple of my own posts. My apologies, Brian. :)

We need a way to tell this Brian from concern-troll Brian, lest he accidentally take friendly fire...

Oh, no worries. I just didn't want to be mistaken for someone like Al. I'll now refer to myself as Brian J.

But anyway, while I don't doubt that Palin is a decent person, and while I have nothing but sympathy for Bristol Palin, isn't it a hoot to watch the Republicans in meltdown mode? This is looking like a debacle of the highest order. It couldn't happen to a more deserving group of chumps. The only turn of events that looks to stop the bad coverage is Joe Biden peeing himself in public or Obama raising significantly less money than McCain in August.

But anyway, while I don't doubt that Palin is a decent person, and while I have nothing but sympathy for Bristol Palin, isn't it a hoot to watch the Republicans in meltdown mode?

I'm with ya, buddy. One of the games I play whenever listening to or reading anything by conservatives is "guess the principle". Whenever they make some point or other, it's noteworthy to keep track of what moral or rational principle underpins what they're saying. It doesn't take long at all to come to the conclusion that movement conservative orthodoxy exists in a vast ocean of hypocrisy.

The Palin nomination, the the reported responses of the Republicans to the unwinding soap opera of her life, prove the truth of the observation that the right wing of today's Republican party revels in public displays of ignorance.

TCBR people know I am generally against personal attacks in general, but the Palindrone has gotten to me.

Brian J says "I don't doubt that Palin is a decent person" Well, I do. Very much I do.

So far almost every word she has said has proven to be a lie -- not a political exaggeration, or a spin, a LIE. Liars are not 'decent persons.' (Okay, maybe her kids play hockey and she is a 'hockey mom.')

A person who uses a 4-month old baby as a political prop, even if the child weren't handicapped, when she knew every paper would print pictures of the whole family and all she had to say was that 'of course, I have another child who is too young to be here' is not a decent person

Any mother who, when her 'water broke' demanded to be taken on a six-hour plane trip instead of to the nearest hospital is not a decent person.

Any woman who, when her motherhood is questioned, deflects the story by revealing her daughter's unwed pregnancy -- when she could merely have her doctor release medical records -- is not a decent person.

Any person who spends public money on a hockey arena and refuses to spend public money on a library -- and I am someone who is a hockey fan and believes in the important of recreation centers for youths -- is not a decent person.

Any person who attempts to use her public position to force an official to join her in a personal or family vendetta -- even if the vendetta is against a bad man and fires the official who won't bend to her whims is not a decent person.

Any person who is asked "In relationship to families, what are your top three priorities if elected governor?" and replies
"1. Creating an atmosphere where parents feel welcome to choose the venues of education for their children.
2. Preserving the definition of “marriage� as defined in our constitution.
3. Cracking down on the things that harm family life: gangs, drug use, and infringement of our liberties including attacks on our 2nd Amendment rights."
and who, throughout the questionaire repeatedly questions, by implication, mandatory schooling
is not a decent person.

Any person who is offered the chance to be second-in-line to the Presidency and accepts, kbnowing she is manifestly not qualified, and knowing that the baggage she brings with her will injure the person making the offer -- no matter what you think of McCain and the Republicans -- is not a decent person.

...isn't it a hoot to watch the Republicans in meltdown mode?

Caution: the MSM has been extremely clear over the past ~20 years that they will stop at nothing to get the GOP elected, facts be damned. Translation: they may not let the Republicans go into meltdown mode, or at least not let the public as a whole see that they are.

-Z

Cheney to McCain (well, forget the age difference):

Yes John, I am your father!