When all you've had the whole campaign is putative foreign policy experience (and repeatedly making the wrong decision isn't really the kind of experience you should be touting), you can't back off from that.

Sarah Palin has to stare down the Russians every day. In fact, she goes to the Bering Strait once a month to personally look over the strait right into Putin's eyes.

She once drank Russian vodka and ate Russian caviar-she can handle Putin as well.

She once drank Russian vodka and ate Russian caviar-she can handle Putin as well.

Caribou Barbie

"The truth might work, but for the McCain campaign, the instinct to mislead is too strong to resist."

Sheesh, don't give them ideas.

Any man named "Tucker" is guaranteed to be an assclown, and this guy upholds that law of nature beautifully.

Given all of the revelations in the past two days about Sarah Palin, it's amazing how few have been picked up by the MSM. Apparently, they are determined not to apply any scrutiny to Palin and once again give the GOP a pass.

The right is incredibly successful in getting their messages and story lines in broadcast media. Democrats had better develop some competence in this area, if they want to win.

I think they've hamstrung themselves by all the prior screeching about Obama's lack of foreign policy experience and how fundamental that knowledge is -- like Campbell lays out. They don't want to have to argue that they didn't say it or didn't mean it, so they have to take these ridiculous tacks instead.

Don't you get it? Anyone who has been POW! deserves to be President!

You know, there are governors all up and down both coasts whose states house military bases, designed to be a strategic line of defense in the unlikely event of a conventional invasion. Some of them are even Republicans. Is proximity to Russia the ONLY thing that separates Palin to the rest of them? If not, what else?

Steve, I'm not sure you're right when you say "The campaign could very well say, 'No, Palin may not have foreign policy experience, but she has sound judgment and a clear vision of America's role in the world.'" Because for once, it seems like the media is starting to remember what its job is, and the next question would/should be "How do you know she has sound judgment and a clear vision of America's role in the world?" There's really no evidence, and seemingly each hour, there's more evidence to the contrary.

Steve: If I remember this correctly, Campbell Brown is married to Dan Senor, a famous Bush shill.

I have never before seen Brown attack a Repug shill before. This one incident made up for a lot of lost time.

Am I correct on her marriage status?

Their problem is that they can't say that sound judgment and a clear vision are more important than foreign policy experience. If they do, they validate everything people have been saying in defense of Obama for the past 18 months. They made their bed, I hope they enjoy lying in it (no pun intended).

Proposed line: "No, Palin may not have foreign policy experience, but she has sound judgment and a clear vision of America's role in the world."

They couldn't say that, Steve, because it describes Barack Obama perfectly. And Harry Truman, and John F. Kennedy, and Woodrow Wilson ....

The campaign could very well say, "No, Palin may not have foreign policy experience, but she has sound judgment and a clear vision of America's role in the world."

How would that be any less absurd?

It seems to me that W. was rather lite on foreign policy experience when he came into office. He had not been yet to Europe as I recall. That means the average American college kid who did the two month back-pack tour is ahead in immersing themselves in other cultures than W was. Palin, of course knows even less. yikes.

Steve Benen wrote: "The campaign could very well say, 'No, Palin may not have foreign policy experience, but she has sound judgment and a clear vision of America's role in the world.'"

Sure, the McCain campaign could say that. They could endorse Obama, while they are at it.

Steve Benen wrote: "They have to peddle nonsense, and hope just enough voters are fooled by their con job."

Well, that right there is the whole essence of the selection of Palin for VP. It's nonsense and a con job from the get go. Their whole Palin strategy is to launch a barrage of bullshit that can't really be answered effectively, because it is all content-free doubletalk.

DevilDog wrote: "The right is incredibly successful in getting their messages and story lines in broadcast media. Democrats had better develop some competence in this area, if they want to win."

"The right" and the "broadcast media" are, like the Republican Party, wholly-owned subsidiaries of America's Ultra-Rich Ruling Class, Inc. Democrats don't have that advantage.

What Democrats need to "develop" is the realization that the corporate-owned mass media is not some neutral entity, performing a public service by dispassionately and impartially informing the American people about the issues, the candidates and their proposals. The corporate-owned mass media is their adversary, and is propagandizing the public to advance the interests and agenda of America's corporate aristocracy and their ruthless class war against everyone else.

The corporate-owned mass media is working hand-in-hand with the Republican Party and the openly partisan right-wing extremist media to get Their Man McCain close enough to steal the third presidential election in a row with voter disenfranchisement and fraud.

As a woman, what really frosts my cupcakes about Palin is that in order to pick her McCain had to pass over at least a half dozen more qualified Republican women, many of who DID have foreign policy experience. Sheesh.

Mark Whitaker of MSNBC reported that Palin didn't even tell her pregnant daughter that she had been tabbed for VP until after they arrived in Ohio the day of the announcement. While it's fair to argue that children should be left out of the discussion, don't you think the poor girl had a right to a little warning? But I suppose McCain's people can "argue" that Palin has good judgment.

Enjoy the Campbell Brown clip because pieces like that are going to be few and far between. McCain is punishing CNN by cancelling his interview with Larry King. The spin on Palin's daughter being pregnant is that it makes Palin more "human."

We live in an insane asylum.

The left makes a big mistake belittling Sarah Palin but they cannot seem to help themselves. I judge them to be angry people. Of course the National Guard reports to the feds for national issues. And they report to the Governor for state issues.

Sarah Palin has negotiated with Canada over pipeline easements, among other things, I’m sure.

But the real mistake is attacking her as an amateur. The left forgets that Palin will have a chance to present herself to voters in the election process. She is much smarter than Barack Obama. This will become clear.

Barack stares at a teleprompter during substantive parts of speeches. Comparing the speech patterns of the DNC address to the Saddleback interview is like night and day.

Sarah Palin says reasonably intelligent things while she engages you with her eyes. The attacks on Palin’s teenage daughter will catch the attention of the People Magazine female voter and win their empathy.

I suppose I should be grateful that anybody in TV infotainment took a Republican blowhard to task.

Red-letter day.

Hilarious. McCain wanted Lieberman or Ridge. His strategists said no. You have to bring in a social conservative if you want to have enough money to finish the campaign. He picks Palin. Fundamentalist voters rejoice, perhaps not realizing that their agenda isn't McCain's first choice.

What a bunch of stupid rubes.

Here's a question -- Not that independence is likely but how does the Alaskan Independence Party view the rights of Native Americans? Is secession just a big real estate scheme dreamed up by white settlers to fleece the Native Americans?

Who would own Alaska if the seccessionists were successful? Keep in mind, the Independence Party is the third largest party in Alaska after the GOP and the Dems.

I have never seen this journalist Campbell Brown before. Wow. Great job.

Now I have seen a shill who looks like this woman and calls herself Campbell Brown. It can't be the same person. Can it?

When Campbell Brown is circling like a shark with blood in the water, you know you have a problem.

Is it just me, or is the whole Palin-vetting/McCain-judgement trainwreck giving anyone else a dangerous case of perma-smile?

Could the GOP's convention week start any worse?

Maintaining healthy levels of cynicism re: Dems chances will be difficult.

The people with the weaponry would own Alaska pj in jesusland. Sarah Palin knows things like this.

Thank you Smithers. Best laugh I've had since she's been announced.

@ SecularAnimist I could not agree more the whole coporate owned MSM is in the bag for Obama , with the exception of the usual suspects, Stewart , Colbert and Olberman who are allowed to go off and tell the truth because they make money for the corporations.

caribou barbie and Snowmobile Ken. Now with Trac,Trig and a surprise Bristol inside.Collect the whole set.

What exactly did she think was happening in Ohio that morning? Dayton's a nice town *cough* but it ain't exactly Disneyland, you know?

or perhaps Palin herself wasn't actually sure she was anything but a red herring?
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Mark Whitaker of MSNBC reported that Palin didn't even tell her pregnant daughter that she had been tabbed for VP until after they arrived in Ohio the day of the announcement. While it's fair to argue that children should be left out of the discussion, don't you think the poor girl had a right to a little warning? But I suppose McCain's people can "argue" that Palin has good judgment.

Posted by: Danp on September 2, 2008 at 4:35 PM | PERMALINK

But the real mistake is attacking her as an amateur. The left forgets that Palin will have a chance to present herself to voters in the election process. She is much smarter than Barack Obama. This will become clear.

Barack stares at a teleprompter during substantive parts of speeches. Comparing the speech patterns of the DNC address to the Saddleback interview is like night and day.

Sarah Palin says reasonably intelligent things while she engages you with her eyes. The attacks on Palin’s teenage daughter will catch the attention of the People Magazine female voter and win their empathy.

Posted by: Brick Oven Bill on September 2, 2008 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, I'm sure she'll win a lot of empathy. But smarter than Obama? Horseshit.

Heh - Just remember, for Palin the Alaska National Guard is a tool to fight for Alaskan independence, not to defend "America" anyway.

Tucker Bounds knows that if he doesn't fool the rubes, then the election won't be close enough to steal, so to hell with logical argument. (Not that he uses much of it anyway) The up-is-down talk spewing from his pie hole will only increase, and the best thing we can do is remain calm and make sure the swing voters get a good look at it along with a simple analysis. If the Dems can't do that they deserve to lose.

Josh Marshall is reporting that John McCain has canceled tonight's interview with Larry King. I guess it is being suggested that McCain is protesting Campbell's mistreatment of poor Tucker.

In negotiations between two men, one always assumes the dominant role, and the other a subservient role. Either that or they fight. Dominance is based either on resources, or on intelligence, or both. A good example of this is watching Bush and Putin interact. Putin is smarter then Bush, and I would argue has more resources via oil. You can view Putin’s dominance by watching his eyes.

Putin would not be too worried about dominating a man who stares at a screen during prepared remarks. I don’t know what Putin would make of an uppity female that engages him visually.

Usually, I feel sorry for people when they're having one of the shittiest moments of their lives. Usually..

As a woman, what really frosts my cupcakes about Palin is that in order to pick her McCain had to pass over at least a half dozen more qualified Republican women, many of who DID have foreign policy experience. Sheesh.

Well, c'mon, McCain is used to passing over substantive women of his own age in order to choose a much younger pretty thing. Just ask his first wife.

It seems like for a brief momment Tucker almost says that it's okay that Palin has no experience because people seem to be okay with the level of experience Obama has... my head spins just trying to make sense of his argument...

I judge them to be angry people.

Fuck yes I'm angry! Not only that, I have no patience for you if you aren't mad as hell, unless you have been in a coma for the last eight fucking years!

I passed "angry" when the Military Commissions Act passed the Senate. How can you not be angry when you live in a country that debates the relative merits of torture, practices extraordinary rendition, holds people indefinitely, suspends Habeas Corpus, spies on you and reads your email, usurps powers rightfully bestowed upong the congress, ignores subpoenas, calls the Geneva Conventions "quaint" and thinks the Constitution is "just a god-damned piece of paper" (Should I go on? O mean, I can if need be...)

As I agreed to protect that "god damned piece of paper" from all enemies, foreign and domestic and surrender my own life without qualm or question to that end, yeah. I'm angry. And if you aren't, well, I don't even want to know you.

But, but, but Alyeska was bought from the Russiams!!!

Oh wait, my bad, that was 1867.

Posted by: Brick Oven Bill on September 2, 2008 at 5:01 PM

There you have it. Proof positive that every joke ever made about students who have had 3 hours of General Psychology rings true.

She is much smarter than Barack Obama -Slappy

Must be why she didnt finish getting her MBA in Hawaii.

please tell me B.O.B. is the Political Animal equivalent of some of Carpetbaggers parody trolls?

Palin smarter than Obama? thats funny stuff.

Lets see, Con Law professor at one of the nation's top 10 law schools versus. . . BA from Idaho, one of the nation's least selective schools?

Now call me an elitist (guilty as charged!), but I'm not seeing much in their respective backgrounds that shows Palin is the smarter of the two. Aside from schooling and accomplishments, there are minor things like believing that the Earth is only 7,000 years old wholly in contradiction to all objective evidence. See, that to me doesn't show real intelligence.

"I don’t know what Putin would make of an uppity female that engages him visually."

"Oh noes! She haz engaged me visually! What can I doez?"

Mike

Palin won statewide office and enjoys a high approval rating. Obama disqualified the other candidates.

We will get a chance to hear her speak. When she does, watch her eyes. Pay attention to Obama’s eyes.

Caribou Barbie

WIN

Sarah Palin has to stare down the Russians every day. In fact, she goes to the Bering Strait once a month to personally look over the strait right into Putin's eyes.

When I told Mrs. Thripshaw about the Fox quote attributing her foreign policy experience to Alaska's proximity to Russia, she practically fell over laughing. Her response was something like the above -- adding that Palin would yell "Hey Putin, back the fuck off!"

I watched this last night and just laughed my ass off.

I've never seen Campbell Brown have so much fun....good times!

The body language 'experts' say we should watch her navel.

Watch her navel!

Speaking of eyes, watch McCains eyes watch Palins behind.

As a woman, what really frosts my cupcakes about Palin is that in order to pick her McCain had to pass over at least a half dozen more qualified Republican women, many of who DID have foreign policy experience. Sheesh.

...but were not rigid social conservatives, and therefore not acceptable to the fundamentalist base.

I, for one, hope that Palin's religious extremism leads to dragging McCain's views on reproductive freedom -- including contraception -- out into the light. (I know -- with this media? Fat chance!)

B.O.B., I have a degree in Phys Psych and grad work in neuro. You are seeing things in other people's eyes that simply aren't there. I have covered a few Obama events and seen him speak in person and off the cuff, and can say this with a modicum of authority:

You. Are. Nuts.

Hi Blue Girl. I am a negotiator in the private sector, among other things. I. Ain’t. Nuts.

Palin won statewide office and enjoys a high approval rating.

Yeah? Obama won state and national office -- plus a little moonlighting as a ConLaw lecturer -- and has higher approval ratings.

B.O.B. is an amusing troll, but best of all in how deliciously, obviously implausible the rightards' excuses about Palin are -- almost as much so as the McCain campaign's. Flop sweat galore.

Ah, Bill....it's good to see you back in your unfocused angry mode. That posing as a Librul thing was obviously not a comfortable role for you.

Explain to me, if you can, how negotiating with Canada over pipeline easements constitutes foreign policy experience. Assuming that she has done so, of course, for which no evidence exists that I could find. Is pipeline-easement procedure going to be helpful if India decides to invade Pakistan over Kashmir? "I remember something like this from before, during my pipeline-easement talks with another country that is - sadly - already so much like the United Atates that it's hard to tell where one leaves off and the other begins. Stand back, everybody, and for gosh sakes, shield your eyes". How about if China decides to lunge across the straits and re-take Taiwan? There's no reason to believe they will (and every reason to believe they will soon have it back without firing a shot, thanks to their arms-length policy with Hong Kong), but what if they did? What's the plan for that? "Well, I remember when I was deploying the Alaska National Guard to help put out big fire in Juneau....oh, wait; that's still in Alaska!"

Yes, that's right, Bill - deploying the Alaska National Guard within Alaska is not a foreign deployment. Do you remember the governor of Louisiana apologizing because he sent all his troops to Iraq, and there were almost none left to help out with the Katrina disaster? No, that's right; you don't, because deploying the State National Guard is an executive decision at the Federal level.

It's kind of sweet, the way you guys just make up stuff in order to make Palin seem viable, but a little bit sad, too. It's like your puppy got run over, but you go to impossible lengths to convince yourself he's still alive, or that he will recover. Sarah Palin is vice-presidential material like George Bush is a nuclear physicist.

orange

I'm relatively new here, so forgive me for having to ask, but ... is Brick Oven Bill for real? Like, really real? An actual person who lives somewhere and thinks those things? Wow. Just, wow.

Palin has a 4-year journalism degree and a few years of experience cutting ribbons (and settling family disputes by firing state employees), and she wants lies and superstition taught in biology classes. She admitted recently that she doesn't know what a vice president does all day. She was briefly the governor of a state with fewer people than Rhode Island. Where anybody would get the idea that she's smarter than anybody of consequence, let alone Barack Obama, is a complete mystery.

Wow, Barack Obama reads off a teleprompter. That's pretty damning evidence. I suppose Dubya has been ad-libbing all his speeches all this time? Shoot, he can't even read the teleprompter right.

You mean to tell me I have "foreign policy experience" because I once saw tits in the French Quarter?

Sweet.

I. Ain’t. Nuts.

We have seen no evidence to back up this assertion on your part.

That is exactly the point which infiltrates the entire McCain campaign...dishonesty and deceitfulness. Rather than admit...these are my strengths and these are my weaknesses, his campaign will not admit to any weaknesses. Instead Palin becomes "perfect" for the job, reality be damned. An experienced executive, maverick, commander-in-chief ...do-dah do-dah. With the implied order to just shut up about it, McCain knows what he's doing.

"...the instinct to mislead is too strong to resist."-Benen
It's insulting to voters to see truth so trampled by the McCain campaign. The obviously think that if they just tell it like it really is that it might be rejected so they lie trying to get us to rationalize their deceitfullness. The whole thing is just wrong...period.

Palin has a 4-year journalism degree

Which, judging solely by the pack of pinheads inhabiting our national media, is soooooo impressive.

My apologies to all those who are keeping the faith. My sole regret about not going into journalism out of college is that if I had, I might now be in a position to fire one or two of these cretins.

Where anybody would get the idea that she's smarter than anybody of consequence, let alone Barack Obama, is a complete mystery.

Easy, Bill made it up out of whole cloth. He desperately needs it to be true I suppose. Though, why he thinks the "smartest" person wins the day when it comes to elections is beyond me. We have George W. as exhibit A to contradict that premise.

It's like your puppy got run over, but you go to impossible lengths to convince yourself he's still alive, or that he will recover.

That reminds me, I'd be interested in Palin's position on the whole Terri Schiavo fiasco? And McCain's for that matter? As I recall, the GOP's actions in her case did not sit well with the general public.

Brick Oven Bill wrote: "Sarah Palin says reasonably intelligent things while she engages you with her eyes."

You mean like when she says she doesn't believe in evolution and wants the Biblical creation myth to be taught in science classes?

Your writings here suggest that you are not a good judge of what is and is not "reasonably intelligent".

jet, *you* don't think *I* think Pallin is smarter than Obama, do you?

If so, you suck at quote attribution.

"... She is much smarter than Barack Obama. This will become clear.

Barack stares at a teleprompter during substantive parts of speeches. Comparing the speech patterns of the DNC address to the Saddleback interview is like night and day.

Sarah Palin says reasonably intelligent things while she engages you with her eyes. The attacks on Palin’s teenage daughter will catch the attention of the People Magazine female voter and win their empathy."

Posted by: Brick Oven Bill on September 2, 2008 at 4:39 PM

That is your observation?? Here you have Obama, a Doctor's in Law, a law professor at the University of Chicago, who was also a community activist and organizer on the streets of Chicago and you think Palin is smarter??? a better speaker?? Yup Yup Palin sure engages you with her eyes, just look at McCain who can't take his eyes off her breasts(stared at them the whole time she spoke at her introduction ). She believes in the Flintstones. Your observations are really out of touch with reality to the point of being laughable ... Brick. Geez. Yup Yup Yup...duh now what does a VP do again(God, am I having another baby now? Never mind, the cat peed on the cushion)

B.O.B.'s awfully obsessed with Obama's eyes, don't you think?

Tucker is looking like a caribou in the headlights.

B.O.B.'s awfully obsessed with Obama's eyes, don't you think?

That's probably not all. I can only imagine all the lipstains on B.O.B's TV screen from pressing up against it during Obama's speeches.

Hi Blue Girl. I am a negotiator in the private sector, among other things. I. Ain’t. Nuts.

Nah Billy C., what you are is a real estate shyster in Nevada.

A legacy of Rove is that Republican leaders are never wrong. Never. Ever.

Rove is adept at making weaknesses out of strengths. But it is much harder to make strength out of weakness -- this time. Palin will be a trivia question within 2 years.

She once drank Russian vodka and ate Russian caviar-she can handle Putin as well.

She did go to the University of Idaho, which is in Moscow.

zeitgeist: "please tell me B.O.B. is the Political Animal equivalent of some of Carpetbaggers parody trolls?"

Brick Oven Bill was a frequent commenter at Obsidian Wings, where his contributions typically consisted of -
(a) assertions that Islam is irredeemably evil, based on various Quran verses and his own unusual interpretations of history;
(b) vague yet dire references to the impending destruction of Western civilization by Islam and/or immigration, and his survivalist philosophy for dealing with same;
(c) homilies about what real men and real women are made of, and why everyone else is such a softie (a particularly memorable example: he posited that Jews have a "genetic defect" which makes them excessively compassionate toward Arabs);
(d) cute counterfactual stories about the grave psychological defects he imagines Obama, Clinton, et al. to have, and the converse alleged virtues of McCain the warrior;
(e) persistent attempts to bait other commenters into complaining to the management about him, which he found very amusing

Hilzoy finally banned him for (e). When Hilzoy started posting here, Bill followed.

He is extremely good at taking over threads, and I don't think I've ever seen him change his mind or respond to any factual correction -- no, I take that back, I saw him do it once.

As a woman, what really frosts my cupcakes about Palin is that in order to pick her McCain had to pass over at least a half dozen more qualified Republican women, many of who DID have foreign policy experience. Sheesh.

As a dude, what really grinds my gears is that McCain passed over dozens of qualified people for this Palin drama. Let's talk about policy - not race, gender, orientation or creed. The government's role is A) domestic policy, at the basic level keeping people happy and productive B) National Security, making sure the King of England doesn't darken my doorstep. The rest is immaterial. Palin was a gimmick pick used to take the voter's eye off the ball. If I were a woman I would be pissed that my gender was used as cannon fodder for a fledgling campaign.

@ hob: Scary. Sounds like the basis for a really bad real-estate-salesman-turned-psycho-killer novel. Or just your average Sunday-go-to-church evangelical neanderthal. Or both. Still. He's so absurd it's hard not see it as parody.

"The left makes a big mistake belittling Sarah Palin but they cannot seem to help themselves. I judge them to be angry people. Of course the National Guard reports to the feds for national issues. And they report to the Governor for state issues.

Sarah Palin has negotiated with Canada over pipeline easements, among other things, I’m sure"

then why can't mccains campaign adviser SAY that?

one thing i am certain of is that obama is definitely smarter than palin. that's one of the most laughable arguments that i've seen in her favor. and they are all laughable.

Who in the McCain camp made the decision to even ever put Tucker Bounds on television? I liked John McCain. I even went so far as to turn to convention coverage on CSPAN to avoid pundit talk during the democratic convention and watch, oh, the actual speeches and make up my own mind.

But after watching Tucker on Larry King every night after the Democratic Convention, it was obvious it was only a matter of time before he blew up. He couldn't even answer a direct, yet soft, question from Larry King without simply reciting a general bullet point list of talking points from a Power Point deck. He didn't actually give me any information as to why I should vote for McCain and not Obama and was so general and off-point it made me want to tear my hair out. As a campaign spokesperson, shouldn't you be able to specifically and concisely tell me why I should vote for your candidate over the other without all the b.s.? And be able to actually answer the actual question asked?

I thought Campbell Brown's questions were fair- and personally I want to know a lot more about Palin than even what she asked (starting with- still believe in abstinence only sex ed for teenagers?). And as I watched I knew Tucker was going to blow it because he always lacks specifics. While he looked bad on Larry King, he looked terrible with Campbell because she had the gall to try and get him to actually answer her questions.

That said, I think it smacks of desperation and overwrought spin control that McCain cancelled his interview with Larry King. I was liking McCain less and less because of Tucker Bounds (I'd question the judgment of anyone who thought he was a good spokesperson), but this just makes me feel less guilty about making up my mind and voting for Obama. You can't put out a "relative" unknown VP pick, deny interviews to anyone except People magazine to control the story, and then get upset when people ask tough questions. And you certainly can't do it when your spokesperson could get his butt kicked by any decent high school debate team on one of his good days.

Tucker Bounds was merely following Bush's old 'catapult the propaganda' strategy. It's also the same one Goebbels suggested: repeat a big lie enough, + people believe it to be true. In this case, the big lie is that Palin is even marginally qualified to be Vice President- note that she said she had no idea what the VP did only a short while back- let alone President.

-Z

A recent candidate with foreign policy experience comparable to Palin's is Texas Governor George W. Bush. Like Palin, he shared a very long border with a foreign country; like Palin, he found it necessary to pad his foreign-policy resume with trivialities. (Did she really think that she'd been to Ireland because her airliner made a stop there? Jeesh.) Coincidentally, or maybe not, Alaska and Texas are (by area) the largest states in the Union.

By the way, if the Mastadons are touting border-sharing as a way to learn foreign policy by osmosis, what about Canada? Alaska and Canada share one of the longest international boundaries in the world. Surely the Alaska governor consults with the Canadians on a wide range of border issues.

Also, consider the record re foreign policy experience: Reagan and Clinton had none; LBJ and Nixon did. 'Nuff said.

Forgot to mention: Watch Brown wince as Bounds starts to speak (time track 2:36).

Yeah, I agree, it's as silly as Obama repeatedly claiming that that living in Indonesia as as child and a brief trip to Pakistan are evidence of his foreign policy experience.

Hey, Barry, you might as well toss in those trips to the IHOP.

What is Palin's view on healthcare, education, foreign policy and the immigration issues??? Who cares if she put a plane on ebay, from what I'm hearing she took a lost on it when she sold it ( good economic plan) Im not a republican or Democrat but one liners and telling jokes, does not mean you are a good VP pick especially when the presidental canidate has health and age issues. I don't know about you but I have seen hockey and soccer moms and 90 percent of them shouldn't have a drivers licence let alone lead a country. I can see Hillary not Palin.

Nobody has ever voted for a President because of "foreign policy". Never, not even during war.

The only idiots interested in a candidate's foreign policy views or experience are those who learn everything they know from MSM and their "been nowhere, done nothin" professors.

Get a big fat clue. The economy and personalities are the "be all and end all" of all voting. Get it?

Game over - McCain Palin win.
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Raheem, why did Obama not pick Hollary? Answer: She's gay.

Can you say "lead balloon"?

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