September 4, 2008
PALIN MAKES A FIRST IMPRESSION.... So, after all of the anticipation, how did Sarah Palin do in her first major speech to a national audience? I think, at this point, it's very clear that she's fully prepared ... to be the head of the Republican National Committee. I don't doubt for a second that she can step up on Day One ... to guest host for Rush Limbaugh.
But ready to be one heartbeat from the presidency?
Palin is, to be sure, a slick public speaker who exudes confidence. She is, in many ways, a natural -- with the kind of obvious political skills that most take years to develop. Palin's speech thrilled a Republican Party that's been moribund for quite a while. To that extent, a right-wing star is born. The conservative base wanted to adore her, and Palin gave them every reason to.
But ready to be one heartbeat from the presidency?
Judging a speech like this, it's probably best to consider the goals and the audience. Going into the speech, I expected Palin to try to connect to a mainstream audience, demonstrating competence, credibility, and readiness. She already enjoys the support of the GOP base; Palin has to work on convincing everyone else.
And yet, she (or, more accurately, the McCain campaign aides who wrote her speech) went in a different direction, aiming to shore up the party's base even more. Instead of seriousness, Palin went for biting and sarcastic partisanship. Instead of presenting herself as a trustworthy leader, Palin proved herself an attack-dog ideologue. Instead of answering questions about readiness, she answered questions about who she hates and how much. Palin not only steered clear of the concerns of swing voters, she practically thumbed her nose at them.
What's more, Palin did this with a strikingly dishonest speech, filled with the kind of obvious and transparent falsehoods that even half-way knowledgeable observers can debunk off the top of their heads. Palin didn't just lie, she lied brazenly, as if to say, "I don't care."
Palin did take time to introduce herself and talk a little about her background, but even this seemed to miss the point. She talked, for example, about helping run a small town and joining the PTA. What's wrong with this? Nothing, except when millions of people still have questions about your readiness to help lead a nation, and possibly serve as leader of the free world. She's not running for the office of likable right-wing neighbor; she's running for vice president.
When Palin managed to finally get to substance, it was, oddly enough, the weakest part of her speech. Yglesias noted that Palin's "understanding of the geopolitics of energy is every bit as daft as that of much more seasoned conservative pseudoexperts." Kevin added:
On a substantive level, I'd say the most preposterous part of her speech was on precisely the one topic she's supposed to be already well versed on: energy. Nothing she said made any sense at all. The amount of new oil we can drill in the United States is tiny, not large. Nothing we do on that front will have the slightest impact on either foreign producers or the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Iran doesn't control a fifth of the world's energy supply. And clean coal doesn't exist. It was just a farrago of nonsense from beginning to end.
Palin inspired hard-core conservatives when she needed to persuade everyone else. To that extent, last night's speech was a missed opportunity, if not an outright mistake.
—Steve Benen 6:55 AM
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She was just another Republican attack dog. In typical Rove fashion, she offered no defense of her own feeble credentials or justification for putting a religious extremist a heartbeat away from the Presidency, but instead turned to the same mendacious politics loyal Americans are tired of.
She'll no doubt fire up the dead-enders -- which McCain needs this election cycle -- but she won't appeal to the center. Consider how desperate McCain's campaign is if they're still -- at the convention -- trying so hard to keep the base from turning away.
I feel better about Obama's chances all the time, and look forward to the American people repudiating Republican mendacity, incompetence and corruption for a generation.
Posted by: Gregory on September 4, 2008 at 7:18 AM | PERMALINK
Why is everybody, even liberals, stating that she came across as likable? I thought she was shrill and nasty, her nasal twang was irritating and her angular face unpleasant. Sure, I'm not her base, but I know people like that on my local school board and PTA, and nobody likes them. They exude natural arrogance and meanness.
I really don't think that the average American is going to look at this woman and be enamored. I think what commentators are confusing for likeability is the fact that she didn't come across as a drooling idiot. So she's confident and can smile while speaking in complete sentences. People may even think she's not as incompetent as they suspected. But likable? I don't think so.
What I would like is see more of her, as well as Cindy Lou. Together they represent the Republican party: A blue collar right-wing harpy and an air-headed heiress in haute couture dresses (has anyone commented on what impression Cindy's unfolding fashion show of obviously exorbitantly priced frocks is having on the folks in the boonies? Elitism anyone?) .
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Posted by: Aris on September 4, 2008 at 7:19 AM | PERMALINK
While I agree with you I think you are missing the point. It looks like they really wanted to sufficiently fire up the base first and she accomplished that. Once they are sure it is for real then it is on to the moderate speeches to appeal to the undecideds. It may not work but I don't think they had a choice.
Posted by: Lew on September 4, 2008 at 7:22 AM | PERMALINK
I don't think it was intended to have substance, and I'm not sure it needed any. We really do have a clear choice in this election, and it is a monumental choice. It's not a choice between parties or candidates. Its a choice between which direction the soul of America is heading. The results of this election will cast the die for what America has become or open the door for where America can go. After 8 years of George Bush and the Republicans we have to decide if we want to remain frightened, bitter, rancorous, brutish and paranoid.
The differences between the two conventions profound. The Democrats were eager to meet the challenges and problems we face head on with hopes of a much better future filled with opportunity. The Republicans were seething and resentfull, small minded with a bleak and hopeless outlook. After the Democratic convention I was left with the feeling that we can turn our backs on these past eight years and begin fresh. Watching the Republicans I felt like I was sophocating.
Sarah Palin did what she was need to do, but she did no service to the country. She cameacross as the new small-minded, mean-spirited face of the Republican party like one of the overl made up a vacant anchors on Fox News.
This may be our Last Chance Texico (thank you Rickie Lee Jones). Come November if we choose tocontinue down this dark, dank path then we're at the point of no turning back.
Posted by: Saint Zak on September 4, 2008 at 7:24 AM | PERMALINK
I was never a big Tim Russett fan but can you imagine the gotcha's he would pull on Palin.
Posted by: Big E on September 4, 2008 at 7:25 AM | PERMALINK
On this CNN thread, the comments were overwhelmingly negative.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/03/rnc.day/index.html
Several self-identified independents and moderates were really turned off by Palin's speech. A few outright said she'd moved them into the Obama camp. The base may be lapping it up, but she just may have cost McCain the middle.
Posted by: tokyo ex-pat on September 4, 2008 at 7:25 AM | PERMALINK
She missed the boat. Before yesterday she had 2 chances -- her acceptance speech and the VP debate -- to convince the country at large that she was presidential material.
Now, she's got 1.
Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on September 4, 2008 at 7:26 AM | PERMALINK
I really don't think that the average American is going to look at this woman and be enamored. - Aris
Agree 100%. Part of her goal should have been to be seen as likeable, but I suspect a lot of people felt like they were watching the duplicitous vixen on a soap opera.
Posted by: Danp on September 4, 2008 at 7:26 AM | PERMALINK
Nobody ever went broke betting on the stupidity of the American people.
Posted by: Out on Bond on September 4, 2008 at 7:32 AM | PERMALINK
"Palin didn't just lie, she lied brazenly, as if to say, 'I don't care.'"
As if to say? Of course she doesn't care. The big lie has worked for the Republithugs for almost three decades, and if MSM continues the gush-fest on display last night, it may well work again.
Did anyone else catch the shot of Bob Schieffer grinning his best stupid old coot grin during Palin's speech? He will "moderate" the final critical debate - anyone want to make a wager on how Obama will be treated? Schieffer's besotment with fellow geezer McCain is palpable.
Posted by: on September 4, 2008 at 7:36 AM | PERMALINK
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Tracy Flick (Election) combined with Dolores Umbridge (Harry Potter). But, as those films point out, that type of person often succeeds in this world.
Posted by: AWC on September 4, 2008 at 7:37 AM | PERMALINK
I agree with Aris. I don't understand why you would praise her speaking abilities. She has the speaking style of a candidate for class president. Compare her speech to Gov. Schweitzer's last week (who's hasn't been in politics as long as she has).
Posted by: DanG on September 4, 2008 at 7:38 AM | PERMALINK
Obama is starting to look like the odd man out.
Posted by: orwell
No, you've got that role sewed up, dunce. Just what color is the sky in your world?
Posted by: DJ on September 4, 2008 at 7:40 AM | PERMALINK
Outstanding analysis.
Posted by: The Fool on September 4, 2008 at 7:44 AM | PERMALINK
Snark works with your base.
Snark turns off the undecideds.
Posted by: Erik in Maine on September 4, 2008 at 7:45 AM | PERMALINK
A lot has been said about Palin being a "hockey mom." And how her competitiveness as such makes her ready to steer the free world through the next eight years.
There are two types of sports parents. Those who get the point that sports are a good way for children to learn to compete, win graciously and lose with dignity, and, if talented, excel and be recognized. These are the parents who encourage not just their own kids' teams, but the kids on the other side of the scrimmage line. They talk to other parents. They don't question a coach's decision or hold another kid accountable for a mistake.
Then there are the sports parents like Palin, who take every opportunity to ruin the experience for the rest of us. Hopefully, enough people in the middle will recognize this.
On CBS This Morning, Harry Smith just pronounced the Palin family as "straight out of Central Casting." Looking at them lined up it is absolutely impossible for me to shake the feeling that Karl Rove talked the Republicans into pitching the absolutely whitest family imaginable. To me there can be no question. They're trying with all their might to clear out the gray areas of this election [some call them "issues"], so the choice will be black and white.
Posted by: chrenson on September 4, 2008 at 7:47 AM | PERMALINK
The thought just came to me that they're going to bring out the worst in this campaign, and try to take Obama to their level -- then say, "See, he's no better than us. We knew he was all talk."
Get to work, Dems!
Posted by: on September 4, 2008 at 7:48 AM | PERMALINK
AWC: Re: Tracy Flick and Delores Umbridge
Damn, homeslice! You are so freakin' dead on!
Posted by: chrenson on September 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM | PERMALINK
Scarborough on MSNBC
That family, Sarah Palin’s family, is like so many of us.
Interesting the way Scarborough describes the issue in a so called gaffe that where Obama said in a speech in Los Angeles, or was it San Francisco talked about the character of the Right Wing nuts that cling to guns and religions.
Palin brought that out in her speech last night “That was saying one thing in front of them then saying another when they aren’t listening”.
Any kind of comments made, and they are made all the time, need to be fresh and interesting, especially those from politicians, which, gaffe or not, many times slices into a core of truth.
Obviously, one who studies hell and clings or embraces the bible can resort to swiftly speed boat and sling contextual slim balls with ease. Sarah is social proof of this skill, not just of a barracuda, more likely of many tongues, perhaps from the dragon master himself, the prince of darkness with all the reflexes from hell.
That eerie feeling, a Dobson creepy vision, that is beautifully vain, and this Republican crowd cheers that Jackal mood Palin displays, full Moon or not, this is through out with wicked lies.
Yes wicked, only a maverick can screw up and make a choice like that.
Posted by: on September 4, 2008 at 7:55 AM | PERMALINK
Last night's speech was the first test, and she passed, with a B+. I do not grade the material, which is shit squared. But the delivery, the manner, the presentation were all good.
She will reassure the bitter unwashed.
Posted by: POed Lib on September 4, 2008 at 7:55 AM | PERMALINK
Agreed--Tracy and Dolores's sorority lovehchild. Tracy and Dolores got theirs in the end, but look at all the trouble they caused first. We all know women like this--and like them or not, they scheme and flirt and lie their way into getting what they want.
Underestimate this one at the country's peril.
Posted by: itsmekaren on September 4, 2008 at 7:58 AM | PERMALINK
One of the things that's impressed me most about the Obama campaign is its sense of strategy. They've got a plan and they basically stick to it.
The McCain campaign, by comparison, might be a little steadier than the Hillary Clinton campaign, but if so it's not by much.
What's the long-term strategy for getting to 270 electoral votes here? Is it the same strategy they had when McCain was pushing for Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman as his VP?
These guys look like all tactics and no strategy to me. They'll look better moment to moment than they will long-term.
Posted by: mrsaturdaypants on September 4, 2008 at 7:58 AM | PERMALINK
In a election cycle were people are practically screaming for an end to red versus blue, the Goopers put lipstick on a pit bull.
Tonight they get to put lipstick on a corpse.
Good luck!
Posted by: koreyel on September 4, 2008 at 8:01 AM | PERMALINK
In an earlier post, Steve likened Palin to GWB. I second that. And I'll make a wager with anyone who'll take it. I predict that between now and November 9 Sarah Palin will make many references to having a "talk with God" about accepting the invitation to be VP and, like "W", she'll say that God told her she was "needed in Washington."
Of course, all the evidence runs to the contrary. God has made as much a mockery of George W's administration as Osama Bin Laden has. And God has made a mockery of Palin's abstinence-only stance on sex ed.
It probably has something to do with that whole "Thou shalt not kill" thing. The Almighty may have been talking about other people.
Posted by: chrenson on September 4, 2008 at 8:07 AM | PERMALINK
Is anyone ever going to ask what John McCain's greatest accomplishment is? McCain-Feingold is a joke, and even McCain would agree with that. But what else is there?
Posted by: Danp on September 4, 2008 at 8:12 AM | PERMALINK
Mocking Gandhi will come back to bite them.
Posted by: EvilPoet on September 4, 2008 at 8:13 AM | PERMALINK
LOL at Tracy and Dolores. Perfect. Have to get that comparison in circulation.
Posted by: Matt on September 4, 2008 at 8:18 AM | PERMALINK
She'll say yes to Drill to Nowhere until she says No thank you and takes the money and run and leaves us further in debt. Prom queens are confident, aren't they, but not much else. i liked Tina Fey in Mean Girls better.
Posted by: RememberNovember on September 4, 2008 at 8:18 AM | PERMALINK
Just WHO is the head of this ticket? Are we already actually voting more for Sarah than McSame?...does the campaign know something we all should know? Check out their platform and see how much of it agrees with positions Mr. STRAIGHT TALKER has held in the past...or has he had one of those miraculous conversions???? We know John doesn't like to work too hard...so is she the cover for his weekends off and short days? AND, please someone check out the story of the birth of her last child...because if she, indeed, traveled to Alaska AFTER her water broke and she delivered a speech in Texas, rather than go to one of the many fine hospitals that I'm sure are in Texas...then she was NOT concerned for the welfare of her child!!!
Posted by: Dancer on September 4, 2008 at 8:21 AM | PERMALINK
Talking about the bigotry of lowered expectations. I could have done as good, and I am not a speaker, than that leaden presentation. After having seen some of the video of her in smaller more controlled situations I was expecting something much better. Sounded like she was running for PTA vice-president.
Posted by: Sabo Pike on September 4, 2008 at 8:21 AM | PERMALINK
i hope the media drills down (no pun intended) on the fact that her 'energy expertise' is limited to drilling for oil in alaska. ask her what her plan is for wind, nat gas, bio, etc.
in many ways i'm amazed our forefathers would have overlooked the gaping loophole that would allow a desperate old man to put an unvetted rookie so close to the presidency. let's hope americans vote based on the combined tickets and all they represent
Posted by: entheo on September 4, 2008 at 8:23 AM | PERMALINK
Do they really think it's still 2000 and a Rovian get-out-the-base strategy will be enough to squeak out a win this time? Don't they understand how the electorate has shifted? Or do they just not know how to do anything else? The latter, I guess.
Unless they're actually trying to lose, counting on being able to hamstring President Obama as they did with Clinton, and building up Palin as a future star.
Posted by: Steve LaBonne on September 4, 2008 at 8:27 AM | PERMALINK
I don't know how the press is viewing last night's speech but I do know how I am viewing it. We don't a pit bull with or without lipstick a heart beat away from the presidency.
Posted by: Ron Byers on September 4, 2008 at 8:32 AM | PERMALINK
building up Palin as a future star.
Yeah, it's entirely possible that they've written off this election and are putting Caribou Barbie out there now in hopes that her speech last night would have the same gravitas that Obama's did in 2004. They may be looking ahead to 2016 and the fight against Hillary. And I'll tell you one thing right now. Hillary could dismantle this idiot in a nanosecond.
Posted by: chrenson on September 4, 2008 at 8:34 AM | PERMALINK
,i>...how did Sarah Palin do in her first major speech to a national audience?
Ummm...proved that she's a Stepford Sock Puppet with a an umbilical to the teleprompter and a penchant for pathological dishonesty?
Posted by: Steve on September 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM | PERMALINK
she is successful in shoring up tje base, a group that has shown tme and again that mere belief trumps facts. In addition she is there to try to emasculate obama and biden a la ann coulter type tactics. Their base prefers that over the good of the country.
Posted by: bubba on September 4, 2008 at 8:37 AM | PERMALINK
What kind of "mom" drags her Down Syndrome infant into a scary, noisy arena to be used as a prop and passed around like a football?
Mentioning that fact is "off-limits" BTW.
Posted by: colonpowwow on September 4, 2008 at 8:38 AM | PERMALINK
Did anyone else notice the awkwardness of McCain's "surprise" appearance on stage at the end of Palin's speech? He kept trying to hug her, and she kept pulling away.
Then he said something about her beautiful family, they did the handshake thing and the fake point into the audience and wave and laugh thing, and then stood around looking at one another.
Now what? McCain clearly seemed to be saying. He couldn't think of any platitudes, and there was no script. It was like letting the air out of a balloon.
And watching him move out in the open, without a lectern in front of him, he just looks older and more feeble every time.
Posted by: itsmekaren on September 4, 2008 at 8:38 AM | PERMALINK
I KNOW THE VOTERS OF THIS GREAT NATION WILL DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT SARAH PALIN IS MADE OF.
WE NEED FRESH PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICES.I MUCH RATHER BE A CONSERVATIVE. I DECIDE FOR MCCAIN ON HIS NOMINATION OF SARAH PALIN. I KNOW THIS COMBINATION WILL BETTER RELATE TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY.
I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN/DEMOCRATE/INDEPENDANT, I AM
AN AMERICAN. DECIDE FOR YOUR SELVES. BUT, MY BET IS THIS IS THE PARTY TO BUILD ON RIGHT NOW.
Posted by: Sam B. Lombardino on September 4, 2008 at 8:46 AM | PERMALINK
I have just reprinted the 2004 map entitled "Dumbfuckistan", showing all the states where Bush "won" essentially as a separate country. From the entranced mob reaction to Palin's rants, clearly Dumbfuckistan is alive and well. Thriving, actually. And the MSM loves it.
Palin's performance last night was quintessential Roverian playbook: no substance, lots of emotional rhetoric. Her selection as VP candidate is in and of itself a subliminal racist statement, and we will be treated to much more of that in the next eight weeks.
We have all met the Sarah Palin's of this world. She has many clones. They are reactionary, divisive, hateful, spiteful, narrow-minded, mean, and they often get themselves elected to school boards and town boards where they create havoc. Every town has at least one. One thing they are not is likeable, but they do have a following.
Many years ago, as a young high school teacher in a moderately affluent suburb, I had the children of one of these harpies as students. While their mother never got herself elected to anything, it wasn't for want of trying. She appeared at every public meeting and was headlined in the newspapers as the quintessential public scold. She was so vitriolic and angry that her political ambitions (to remake the world) never went anywhere. Her children could never escape her shadow, and were sad, pathetic young people who could never express an independent view. They had no friends, and were mediocre academically. Their mother attacked their teachers, the school library and librarian, the administration and the entire school board, and anyone who wasn't a Roman Catholic. She once claimed I was obviously a communist because I was born on May Day. She was probably Sarah Palin's mother: spiritually if not biologically.
The citizens of Dumbfuckistan will love Sarah Palin. The media will love her. This election is between ideological emotional populism and reason. I'm not convinced reason will win.
Posted by: Rich on September 4, 2008 at 8:53 AM | PERMALINK
Sam: DOES EVERYONE USE THE CAPS LOCK IN CRAZYTOWN?
Posted by: chrenson on September 4, 2008 at 8:56 AM | PERMALINK
An adequate speech, written by some one else for her, that was competently delivered, but nothing more.
One glaring difference between Republicans and Democrats is that while the Democrats largely stick to substantive attacks on policy and positions the Republicans almost exclusively resort to ad hominem attacks and falsehoods.
Posted by: Allan on September 4, 2008 at 8:56 AM | PERMALINK
Yeah, it's entirely possible that they've written off this election and are putting Caribou Barbie out there now in hopes that her speech last night would have the same gravitas that Obama's did in 2004. They may be looking ahead to 2016 and the fight against Hillary.
No way. If she doesn't pull out a win -- and I agree that the 2000 / 2004 strategy of mobilizing the wingnuts and sowing Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt can't work this year, expecially with the electorate so sick of Republicanism -- her national political career is finished.
Which, of course, will guarantee her a lifelong career of whining on wingnut welfare.
Posted by: Gregory on September 4, 2008 at 8:58 AM | PERMALINK
Ignoring "Sam B. Lombardino's" nonsense -- whenever a concern troll says "I'm not a Republican/Democrate/Independant" it means "I'm a neo-fascist conservative sitting in my mother's basement right now" -- I think you missed the boat on expecting Palin to NOT play to the base.
She was selected for that very reason because, knowing how closely divided the electorate is generally, the big Republican fear was that the base would not mobilize for McCain.
They've solved that problem now. There's no reason for the churches and the gun clubs and what-all not to vote for McCain -- if he dies in office, look at the up-side! And if makes it for two terms, she's a natural successor at that point.
And enough of what Palin said will buy-off low information undecideds and independents that I actually believe they'll pull this off.
Which is terrifying.
Obama/Biden need to do two things -- they need to attack every single thing she said, every day; their surrogates need to oppo research every single skeleton in that closet and get them into the blogosphere; and they better start spending some money on commercials.
What OB08 needs to get right, right now, is that they are no longer running against McCain. McCain is an after-thought.
They are running against Palin.
And right now, in the afterglow of her speech, they stand a good chance of losing.
Posted by: Hemlock for Gadflies on September 4, 2008 at 8:58 AM | PERMALINK
Explain to me what qualifies Obama to be President of the United States and Sarah Palin unqualified to be Vice President? Just the facts, please. No insults for the question. Just the facts, I really would like to know.
Posted by: Jim on September 4, 2008 at 9:00 AM | PERMALINK
Explain to me what qualifies Obama to be President of the United States and Sarah Palin unqualified to be Vice President? Just the facts, please. No insults for the question. Just the facts, I really would like to know.
Sitting Senator, extremely bright and well-educated, with broad and deep grasp of public policy on one side. What exactly is on the other side? Nothing at all that I can see.
Posted by: Steve LaBonne on September 4, 2008 at 9:07 AM | PERMALINK
She certainly did a good job a shoring up the base, but I have to agree that this was a missed opportunity for Repubs. I was suprised the tone was so sarcastic and condescending. I mean, making fun of public service? I'm guessing they just turned off a lot of independents. And what's with the all the old "elite media" diatribes? I think it proved she can read a teleprompter, but the coming weeks and debate will be the real test.
Posted by: Greg on September 4, 2008 at 9:07 AM | PERMALINK
"Did anyone else notice the awkwardness of McCain's "surprise" appearance on stage at the end of Palin's speech? He kept trying to hug her, and she kept pulling away."
It was just like Dr. Evil and Scott Evil when they first met in the first Austin Powers movie. Freaky.
Posted by: bubba on September 4, 2008 at 9:07 AM | PERMALINK
Sara had one more opportunity to reintroduce herself to the Nation and she blew it. Talk about unlikeable. She was everything she should have avoided. I could be wrong, and at the risk of starting a "This is really good news for Barack Obama" campaign, but I think the Obama campaign has been handed a real gift in this speech. First, Biden is free to take the gloves off (and everyone else for that matter). No one is going to defend her other than the Republican base. Second, she just kissed any idea of post-partisanship goodbye. I am sure Steve has a better sense of this, but I think the Country is sick of this crap. I know it works, but this was almost camp by the Republicans. Gulliani was embarrassing, totally over the top. Mitt, hysterical. If Palin is the new face of the Republican Party, looks like more of the same to me, only with lipstick.
Posted by: Scott F. on September 4, 2008 at 9:08 AM | PERMALINK
Jim: Explain to me what qualifies Obama to be President of the United States and Sarah Palin unqualified to be Vice President? Just the facts, please. No insults for the question. Just the facts, I really would like to know.
Jim, let's take time in office out of the equation, all right?
Obama: JS from Harvard Law School.
Palin: BS in Journalism from University of Idaho.
Obama: Acknowledges the facts of evolution and global warming.
Palin: Denies global warming and believes creationism.
Obama: Level-headed Democrat.
Palin: Batshit insane Republican.
I can go on all day, man.
Posted by: chrenson on September 4, 2008 at 9:13 AM | PERMALINK
Right, Lombardino, nothing says SUCCESS like building on failure.
Posted by: locanicole on September 4, 2008 at 9:15 AM | PERMALINK
I had to turn it off in the middle. I expected the lying, I didn't expect to find her so nasty and unlikeable.
And ditto to Colon powwow above, having the baby there was so effing cynical and wrong it made me want to smack all of the smug Palins. Thinking about it today just makes me angrier. I want these people torn to shreds.
I do like the Tracy Flick/Dolores Umbridge comparison!
Posted by: short fuse on September 4, 2008 at 9:29 AM | PERMALINK
Going into the speech, I expected Palin to try to connect to a mainstream audience, demonstrating competence, credibility, and readiness.
Whether or not they realized it when they selected her, I think the McCain people now realize that it would be a lost cause to try to present her as a competent Vice President. Someone who hasn't bothered to think about Iraq or foreign policy to this point won't be able to master the brief between now and the debate, no matter how intelligent. So they're packaging her as a competent Vice Presidential candidate in the form of a pit bull with lipstick. She can play that latter role to the hilt.
Posted by: Mike on September 4, 2008 at 9:44 AM | PERMALINK
I cannot express it clearly but my feeling is that there is a racial undertone to Sarah Palin representing the Republican's American Dream. White middle class who just live paycheck to paycheck are the american dream. Go any farther than that,especially if you are african-american, and you are elitist and dangerous. I heard commentators last night express that Sarah Palin was the "cultural contrast" to the Obamas. I think skin color, though not mentioned, is running just under the surface of that. It's now even more important, if possible, for Obama to win.
Posted by: Dave on September 4, 2008 at 9:58 AM | PERMALINK
Explain to me what qualifies Obama to be President of the United States and Sarah Palin unqualified to be Vice President? Just the facts, please. No insults for the question. Just the facts, I really would like to know.
Obama: Is not a Republican, and won't continue failed Republican policies.
Palin: Is a Republican, and in the Rove/Bush mode at that: Leaving her town in debt, indulging in culture war, and abusing her authority. Embraces failed Republican policies, and continues the Republican tradition of mendacity.
Thanks for asking.
Posted by: Gregory on September 4, 2008 at 9:59 AM | PERMALINK
Could you post an article re the duties and responsibilities of an Alaskan governor, pls?
When GWBush ran I was surprised to find out that the governors responsibilities differed greatly from state to state.
Posted by: Barbara on September 4, 2008 at 10:20 AM | PERMALINK
I never thought I would have anything good to say about Dick Cheney, but after listening to excerpts of Palin's speech this morning, I heard a brief excerpt of Cheney speaking in Georgia. And I must say that Cheney has a warm, sonorous, well-modulated and soothing speaking voice, which was quite a relief from Palin's nasal, squawking, brittle, intensely annoying, fingernails-on-a-blackboard yammering.
The woman is in serious need of a voice coach.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on September 4, 2008 at 10:30 AM | PERMALINK
Re: Iran/fifth of world's energy supply. Is that the percentage they could cut off if they could close the Straits of Hormuz?
Posted by: toc on September 4, 2008 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK
"Explain to me what qualifies Obama to be President of the United States and Sarah Palin unqualified to be Vice President? Just the facts, please. No insults for the question. Just the facts, I really would like to know."
You miss the point - Obama was not the one criticizing the opposition for being inexperienced for the last 3 months. The real question is this: how can John McCain, who has made it clear that he considers experience the most important attribute of a candidate, suddenly select someone with less or the same (depending on your party affiliation) experience? How can one square that contradiction?
Posted by: inthewoods on September 4, 2008 at 10:44 AM | PERMALINK
Well there is no doubt where she spent the last couple of days - Steve Schmidt, anyone? Problem for McCain is that he wants everything to be about him and Grasshopper will just keep sucking the oxygen out of his air. That's why he is currently so angry; it's no going how he wants it to go and he is loosing control to the GOP machinery and Karl. When Cheney became VP to Shrub, he had the knowledge how to manage Shrub, i.e. make it seem that everything was about Shrub and he the background in Washington to get things done. Grasshopper brings nothing but the ability to chum the waters for the die-hard rethugs. That's why McNasty and her looked so uncomfortable on stage at the end last night. This wont turn out well.
Posted by: just guessing on September 4, 2008 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK
Republicans are cheering because Palin takes the spotlight off how old and boring McCain is.
Democrats are cheering because ultimately the spotlight will swing back to McCain and Republicans can rediscover that Palin makes him look even more disappointing.
It's kinda like watching "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi" back to back. You're just so hoping it'll end perfectly and instead it ends up with dancing Ewoks.
Posted by: Five Feet High n Rising on September 4, 2008 at 12:50 PM | PERMALINK
I'll probably be repeating this in several comments because this thread has already started to die, but I am not sure which was more absurd, Palin's speech or the Henny Pennys here who are sure the sky is falling.
First, Obama had a multi-page response describing her lies out before 2:00 A.M.
Second: Look at the audience very closely if you can watch the speech. There were a lot of fanatical types 'swept away' by it, maybe 40%. There are others who are cheering and waving signs because it was time to cheer and wave signs, but whose faces show they are acting on cue -- probably weren't even listening. Another 20%.
But there were a lot of people there, mostly men, mostly in suits, who are not responding at all, and are scowling through the whole speech. They know how badly this is going outside the 'emotional drunkenness' of a convention.
And, to the idiot above who talked about "Dumbfuckistan" take a look at how many of those states have already elected Democratic Governors, Senators, and Representatives. They've already shown buyers' remorse, and they aren't going to gamble n another Republican -- particularly on one who made Sarah Palin his choice for VP.
I could go on more, but there are other threads to comment on and keep making the same points on.
Posted by: Prup (aka Jim Benton) on September 4, 2008 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK
Hope you're right, Steve. My feeling was that by choosing the attack-dog route, she actually came off looking more like a professional politician, soothing concerns about her lack of experience. (Especially when you compare how dreadful Bush is at speaking, and his actual governing experience was considered similarly lacking --- Texas may be a big state, but my understanding is that the governor has far less authority there.) And you know, lying has never hurt the Republican party. I guess because they're all so willing to back up their liars, to lie as a unit, so that to those who aren't politically observant, the lies seem more likely to be true than those few popping up on the defensive, with so many to debunk, so disorganized, that they just look like whiners...
Posted by: catherineD on September 4, 2008 at 2:04 PM | PERMALINK
Superb analysis. I choose worldliness (and you don't have to be an elitist to be worldly) and wisdom over her sarcastic, in-your-face bravado any day.
Posted by: EEngstrand on September 4, 2008 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK
Sarah Palin took a town with $0 debt in 1996 and left it $22 million in the hole in 2002, mostly from the hockey rink/sports complex she shoved down their throats which never became the money generator she promised it would. Another white elephant from another white elephant.
Even with the stable Clinton economy during most of her mayoral tenure and Jack Abramoff's crony she hired to lobby Washington to help her now indicted buddy Ted Stevens ring up $27 million in federal pork for tiny Wasilla (pop. 5000 when she entered office) she still managed to leave the town swimming in debt. Three of her pork projects even made McCain's own wasteful spending list.
The following organization is the offshoot of President Reagan's Private Sector Survey on Cost Control started in 1984, also known as the Grace Commission. Definitely not a Dem friendly group vut even these guys apparently think Alaska is America's welfare queen state.
Citizens Against Government Waste
http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=homePage
Rank State Pork Population Pork/Capita
2000 1 Alaska $394,514,000 619,500 636.83
2001 1 Alaska $480,297,000 626,932 766.11
2002 1 Alaska $451,334,278 634,892 710.88
2003 1 Alaska $393,346,750 643,786 610.99
2004 1 Alaska $524,329,000 648,818 808.13
2005 1 Alaska $645,502,000 655,435 984.85
2006 1 Alaska $325,106,000 663,661 489.87
2007 not listed
2008 1 Alaska $379,699,715 683,478 555.54
As governor she is borrowing from Alaska's future while she wants to blow today's Alaskan windfall oil tax bonanza and the huge surpluses they've generated on bread and circuses tax giveaways.
Alaska gets 89% of it's operating budget from taxing oil coming out of the ground just like Arab kingdoms and Hugo Chavez's Venezuela. They have no state income or sales tax up there. Instead of using that windfall to pay for all the profligate spending her Republican legislature keeps sending her she's issuing bonds to pay for it which Alaskans and US taxpayers will have to pay off in future years while she takes credit for tax "rebates" while she's governor.
Her fiscal policy is a disaster in the making which won't hit til she's left the governor's office. She'd be a disaster as Vice President especially to a President who despite his grevious wounds and type A personality is already past the age his father and grandfather died of sudden heart attacks.
She can put on all the lipstick she wants but her political record is for the dogs.
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Posted by: lvegtb mghvexojp on September 7, 2008 at 2:39 PM | PERMALINK
30 seconds on MSNBC were more than enough. I am an educated woman, mother of five, a jew, and conservative. and i am so much smarter than you, even if you like to look down your nose at me. the size of your brain is too small to measure compared to mine and you sound like that. go ahead, try to convince yourself that we are stupid and you and stupid rachel medow are smart. no dice.
Posted by: bava on September 8, 2008 at 9:17 PM | PERMALINK