this is always the way it goes with these republicans. if one of their own family members is gay, well, that's okay, but nobody else can be, cause that's just immoral (see cheney, et.al.) just one more instance of their double standards

Authority for me, accountability for you.

That's the core Republican promise.

I thought Republicans were against saying one thing to one group and another thing to another group. What is Schmidt going to say to James Dobson about gays if asked?

I have relatives that are voting for McCain because they heard something he said that they believe in.

They don't understand that McCain supports both sides of almost EVERY issue imaginable --- he's the Ultimate Bullshit Artist.

Obama should win about 99% of the gay vote. It's just the totally ignorant gays that are going to be bamboozled.

I am finding out every day just how fucking stupid people are in this country. I keep thinking I've found the bottom but then --- I am surprised by how much stupidier people really are.

McCain sucks. Period.

And now his chief strategist wants gay Republicans to throw their support to McCain? Why,

I'm guessing it's because if you're a gay Republican, you're in danger of losing a battle of wits with a bag of hammers.

"Schmidt was probably just trying to tell the group what its members wanted to hear" SB

Doesn't that really sum up the whole republican party? They will do or say anything to anybody just to gain support and keep power, yet they really have absolutely no intention of following through.

The whole republican convention was a sham, outright lies and half-truths. They have demonstrated over and over through their actions what their policies will be, and yet here we have the MSM and a lot of LIV's gobbling up every bogus morsel they are offered.

How did we get to this point?

Isn't it a bit of a oxymoron to say republican and gay in the same breath??

Johnny Boy couldn't pander to them, so, like a good executive, he delegated the task to someone else.

Plus it's the nature of caucuses such as the LCR to accept every promise or pat on the back, no matter how transparently insincere, because they have their own shabby organizational prerogatives to protect. It's a variation on the battered wife syndrome: if you have nowhere else to go (and I'm talking about the leaders of the organization, not gay Republicans generally) or you feel obligated to stay in the relationship (for the sake of the children for the battered wife, to maintain a platform for gays within the Party for the LCR types), then you are grateful for every lie, every promise to do better sometime in the indefinite future. Why should Dobson be upset by what is obviously a meaningless ritual?

Log Cabin Republicans = Jews for Hitler..

I have never and will never understand why any homosexual would align themselves Republican. I have known a few but not for any extended amount of time. Talk about stupid!

I think you meant the LCR, right? Typo in your header.

The Log Cabin Republicans are reviled within the LGBT community as a bunch of traitorous closet cases. They are increasingly irrelevant and their numbers are shrinking. They have no power within the Republican party OR the queer community and I am shocked that McCain's people even bothered to reach out to them. I guess Schmidt figured it wouldn't matter if he told lies to such an inconsequential group.

There was a home for the LCR's in the republican party up until 1980. But since that moment in time, the GOP has been moving farther into the web that is the religious right. When John McCain selected Sarah Palin for his VP, he basically sold the republican party to the religious right.

but the reality is, McCain is even further to the right on gay issues than Bush was when he was running for president.

And yet, the Log Cabin Republicans will give him their endorsement. I'd bet money on it. Because the LCR are a craven and -- sorry for the over-used word, but it's apposite -- self-loathing bunch of pathetic queens who are happy to be shat upon as long as their corporate and fat-cat interests are protected.

This the problem that could cost him big. His speech last night was in no way a companion piece to his runningmate's the night before. If fact he seemed to be distancing himself from her speech. He's sucking up to Dobson, he's getting cozy with the Log Cabin Dim Wits.

He's trying to appeal to everyone, by feeding a different line of bs taylored to each group. Everyone will be mad.

Obama has offered a concept of "change" that encompasses everyone for the singular good of the nation. McCain is offering "change" that'
s realy just a shell game.

They need the votes then it's back to hating as usual.

Isn't it a bit of a oxymoron to say republican and gay in the same breath??

Homosexuality doesn't stop people from being extreme economic conservatives, and even social conservatives (especially on non-gay issues) or even from buying into the myth that express protection of gay rights amounts (either in general, or just most particular proposals that are advanced) to special treatment that is neither necessary or desirable.

Perhaps gay people shouldn't be Republicans from our perspective (but then, from our perspective, neither should anyone else), but certainly there is nothing that makes it an oxymoron.

The Log Cabin Republicans remind me of an old political joke: "There are no such thing as black Republicans, only Negro Republicans."

Isn't it a bit of a oxymoron to say republican and gay in the same breath??

Not in a public restroom!

If she can't handle Meet The Press, how can she handle the terrorists ??

gttim-- NICE!!!!!! I am very glad I did not have a mouthful of coffee as I read your post, or else you would owe me a new computer keyboard. :-)

And now his chief strategist wants gay Republicans to throw their support to McCain? Why, because McCain hasn't done enough to offend them?

Three words: Jedi Mind Trick.

I'm so bummed that gttim beat me to a bathroom stall joke! Outside of the Daily Show, there was a real shortage of Larry Craig mocking in St. Paul.

I can't imagine what the LCRs believe they're accomplishing, but if they continue to exist at all, it doesn't surprise me that would buy whatever Schmidt is selling.

And in the most unsurprising twist yet, LCR has heartily endorsed John McCain. Why? Well, according to LCR President Patrick Sammon:

"On the most important issue that LGBT Americans faced in the last decade-the federal marriage amendment-Sen. John McCain stood with us. Now we stand with him. Sen. McCain is an inclusive Republican who is focusing the GOP on unifying core principles that appeal to independent voters."

Makes me wonder if the Pink Elephant Collective has been watching some really heavily edited political infomercials over the last few years or if they're just that effin' stupid.

"Isn't it a bit of a oxymoron to say republican and gay in the same breath??"
Posted by: redrover

I believe that the Log Cabin Republicans are good people.

However, to answer your question, the Republican't party draws the likes of Larry Craig and Mark Foley, homosexuals who are anything but "Gay", who view sex as an act of abuse and domination and find their psychological soulmates in the Republican't party.

LCR gays are generally rich people, and support the GOP for the same reason a lot of corporate and professional-class "feminists" do. They believe - perhaps not entirely without reason - that their wealth and class status will insulate them from the antigay/antiwoman designs of the party's right-wing base, and this belief frees them to support an agenda of economic royalism that benefits their pocketbooks.

Where, as Sherlock Holmes once asked Watson, is the mystery in all this?

pretty much every side on every issue can honestly say John McCain has stood with them. You just have to pick the right day.