Let us all start using Rachel Maddow's favorite word LIE! Screw the euphemisms false, stretching the truth, etc I want the republicans exposed for what they are LIARS.

http://miaculpa.blogspot.com/2008/09/rachel-maddow-lets-call-lies-lies.html

She had a big blue ox named Babe, too!

She is great in the role of vicious attack dog.
She re-energizes the culture war.

McCain will lose any race run on the issues. He has to get negative divisive. Winning is all that matters for McSame.

One doesn't have to support McCain and Palin in this election (and I don't) to just shake one's head in wonderment at all this. Either 1) the McCain campaign's ineptitude is a marvel to behold or 2) McCain, having had Palin forced upon him by the Powers That Be (which indeed appears to be the case, his position within the GOP being so tenuous that he felt he couldn't persuade the social conservatives to go along to get along re the VP pick), perhaps wants to say, in effect, Fine: and just watch what will happen as I do the best I can to make a silk purse out of this sow's ear. Prior examples of his campaign's ineptitude aside, #2 seems more logical to me.

Some have said elsewhere that McCain's acceptance speech in some ways sounded more like an elegy than a go-get-'em call to electoral arms. It's getting harder and harder not to agree with that assessment.

If they want to run on personality, can they honestly keep using the words -- honor, integrity, and principle -- to describe John McCain? One big problem with lies and distortion is that they snow ball and replicate. At some point a critical threshold is reached when the press and the public get so fed up with it that trust is completely destroyed and the candidate or officer suffers from a permanent credibility gap.

McCain has vaulted way over the critical threshold and there will be no padded landing.

John R said:
Let us all start using Rachel Maddow's favorite word LIE! Screw the euphemisms false, stretching the truth, etc I want the republicans exposed for what they are LIARS.

I prefer the (slightly) more gentle suggestion that McCain and his campaign either

a) Don't know what they're talking about, or

b) Know they're not telling the truth but they are so contemptuous of the American voters (and they're so confident that the media won't call them on it) that they don't care as long as it helps them win.

Let the voters decide which.

Let's not forget about the FBI background check they said they did - more contempt for the rule of law and the truth.

I'm sure they'll keep repeating these lies. They always do (they have no shame). Say it enough times and people believe it. Well, the low-information voters will.

Disgusting. People need to wake up.

Who the hell are these people? Is there anything they won't lie about? I mean, jesus, so they sold a jet to some businessman, what do they gain by lying about how they sold it? To score some cheap points with a little story about selling it on ebay? Is it because the rubes they are talking to have heard of ebay and wouldn't chuckle or guffaw if she explained the actual method of sale? It's bizarre. It's senseless. It's shameless. It's republican.

The GOP like to have it both ways. If you call them on the petty BS that they spout (like this eBay story), then they say, please, can't we talk about the issues? Smart, no? I think that McCain's biggest problem is that Palin's candidacy isn't passing the smell test and so the probing will continue.

I also don't think the McCain camp played the media right in this instance (usually a GOP strong suit). They got the media up in arms about their investigation of Palin, which only makes them dig deeper. It's one thing to just cry bias; McCain and his Rove alumni have attacked them on the foundation of their profession: the need/ability to investigate a story. Here's hoping the digging continues.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and a teleprompter? Lipstick!

Yesterday someone posted a link here where a Wasilla resident wrote about Palin. One of her claims was that "most" of the earmarks Palin line-item-vetoed were later enacted when she realized why they were proposed and how much people wanted them. I'd love to see someone fact check that claim. The rest of the article was pretty credible and consistent with mainstream reports.

I'm curious, is this the type of thing we can expect?

"Stopped outside Wasilla�s post office on a blustery afternoon this week, Cynthia Shoemaker said �people in Alaska want to give the national media a mouthful� for scrutinizing Palin�s background. �She answers to God, not reporters,� Shoemaker said." http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13199.html

It's reporters today, what about if she becomes veep? "She answers to God, not Americans"?

The word "Lie": What's wrong with using it when apt?

Why doesn't the Obama campaign do an ad that states: "We all misspeak sometimes or make a mistake and say something that's not true. But when someone continues to utter the same falsehoods, time and time again, after having been persuasively told that they are indeed falsehoods, there's only one word to describe the situation: he or she is lying." Then follow with a series of video from McCain and Palin uttering lies, with correction after correction from the media.

I'm no adman, but I don't see a down side. The Republicans decided that lies told audaciously will stick no matter how many times they are debunked. If they react to being described as liars, they'll have to address the content of their lies; if they don't, the label sticks.

Rove was the one who said that you should attack your opponent's strengths. McCain has made his honor, character and POW status his strengths. Attack those. Show him as a dishonorable liar and attack his record on non supporting his fellow vets -- lots of vets out there than can be recruited to talk about how he's voted over and over against their interests.

We have the issues. But if they want to run on character, bring it on.
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Palin is a liar, she cheats on her husband and she is extremely stupid. But she promises tax cuts to people who don't need them, so Republicans love her. They are craven and morally confused and so is she.

Sounds like McCain sold his 'straight talk' on ebay... for a loss.

Beyond being a lie, doesn't this mean that Palin sold a valuable state asset to a political supporter at below book value? Isn't that corrupt? And do you have any doubt that if a Democratic candidate had done this, the Republicans would be playing up the corruption angle?

In his efforts to emulate the "Great Communicator" the once Honorable Senator John McCain, I fear, has become the "Great Prevaricator"! -Kevo

>"willingness to make stuff up."

That's the entire republican platform in a nutshell. Oddly, the American people seem to still have an appetite for it.

I feel like i've wandered into some alternate Universe where everyone on the left acts like everyone on the right.

So what have we got? She tried to get a guy fired who threatened to shoot her sister? Big whoop! A bogus Ebay story,a faulty teleprompter anecdote. A few nasty lies concerning her daughter and her membership in AIP( which turned out to be false).

This is silly.

At the time, I thought it was pretty awesome when Palin put Murkowski's jet up for auction on eBay -- she really did it and it really was a big deal in Alaska. The liar in this particular instance is McCain and I think he's the one who should be hammered for it. Or nailed for it. Or hammered and nailed for it.

I'm kind of with Dublin -- I hate to see Democrats acting like Republicans, and there's been a heck of a lot of that whether it's sexism or classism or just plain creepy behavior. That said, I'm of mixed minds on the troopergate thing. I live in a town with a population of about 3300, and it's really impossible to keep personal stuff from entering into local politics. Here, we've got crazy Hubbell-on-Hubbell action for the GOP primaries for town highway supervisor. It's not a big deal and it comes with the territory when everybody's lives are as closely intertwined as they are in places like this and like Wasilla. My concern about troopergate is that people in elected positions should know that this small town crap can't be carried into higher office, and I'm just not sure Palin knows that.

To Dublin & Melinda: We're like Republicans because we don't think it's appropriate for an elected official to fire someone from a government position for personal reasons?

Will I be out of bounds if I suspect that you're little more than conservative concern trolls?
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No, you're like Republicans when you engage in personal smear attacks. You're like Republicans when you call Palin a Barbie and mock poor people who live in trailers. You're like Republicans when you ignore the substance of what I posted in order to accuse me of something heinous. As I said, "troopergate" would be business as usual in a town the size of Wasilla. However, what's business as usual in a small town turns into abuse of power in larger contexts and I'm not sure Palin understands that.

I don't think you'd be out of bounds, but I know you'd be wrong. Just because I'm not willing to go into personal smear mode doesn't mean that I support McCain. I believe, however, that when you go into personal smear mode you lose the moral authority to object when Republicans do it.

Congratulations, John! I heard you made a million dollar profit in gold the other day!
Thanks, Bob. It was 3 million, not one. And in wheat, not gold. And it was a loss, not profit... But, who cares about details, eh?

BTW, it looks like Wikipedia has a long list of songs the GOP could have used at the Convention:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar

I think Wooten is irrelevant here. Wooten was investigated and disciplined on two counts and allowed to kept his position with the troopers.

From the local news report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPTMcs8wpHc

The real issue here is she a) fired an competent, innocent police commissioner because he would not fire Wooten, b) clearly lied about why she fired him. She said because he was not competent on alcohol abuse issues, but then she tried to transfer him to the head of the alcohol beverage control board.

A president who did the same thing to the Attorney General would be impeached.

So, no, Democrats are not acting like Republicans. This is not a smear. This is a legitimate investigation into an ethics violation. That Republicans don't see that as a problem is a testament to why Alaska politics have become so corrupt.

What I can't figure out is how she conducted all of those high level foreign affairs talks with Putin without having a jet to fly to Russia.

But, looking at it from her point of view I guess it was just too damned fast for hunting wolves from the air.

(John Stewart, if you use either of the above, please email me so we can arrange royalties:
PresidentPalin@wearescrewed.com)

Sorry. The eBay part of this story was NOT a big deal in Alaska. And it wasn't Palin's original idea.

In 2006, all the gubernatorial candidates--not just Palin--promised to sell King Murkowski's jet. Meanwhile, selling state assets on eBay was standard practice in Alaska; the idea had nothing to do with Palin's kitchen-table-style, hockey-mom savvy. Though the jet had been an issue for years, what follows is the first recorded mention of the eBay part of this story. This comes from the Anchorage Daily News on 12/13/06, five weeks post-election:

"The state's chief procurement officer, Vern Jones, said it's not unusual for Alaska to sell big-ticket items on eBay because the site is cheap and has a big audience.

"It cost the state a few hundred dollars to sell an old state ferry, The Bartlett, for $389,500 in 2003, he said. 'They got more for that then they expected.'

"Tuesday night, the state was auctioning 38 items on the site, including three aircraft--two Super Cubs and a Cessna. Two of the planes have already reached the minimum bids set by the state, meaning Jones expects them to sell for sure."

The eBay idea failed in the case of the jet. The state kept paying its monthly note for the jet for the next seven months before it was finally sold through a private broker, at a loss.

McCain's statement about this was flatly wrong; Palin's statement was a misleading hustle. But get ready for much more of the same. Palin is extremely talented--and she's extremely dishonest.

evil poet: "It's reporters today, what about if she becomes veep? "She answers to God, not Americans"?"

When we're signing her paycheck, she is accountable to us.

Oh, wait, silly me I forgot! She's a Republican - she's not accountable to anyone.

bob somerby: "Palin is extremely talented--and she's extremely dishonest."

Thanks for the info, Bob. And your final comment, which I've copied above, bears repeating, often.

But she only lost $500,000 tax dollars buying symbolism. That is inexpensive for a Republican.

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