September 6, 2008
More Of The Same
From the WSJ:
"The biggest project that Sarah Palin undertook as mayor of this small town was an indoor sports complex, where locals played hockey, soccer, and basketball, especially during the long, dark Alaskan winters.
The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin's legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.
"It's too bad that the city of Wasilla didn't do their homework and secure the land before they began construction," said Kathy Wells, a longtime activist here. "She was not your ceremonial mayor; she was in charge of running the city. So it was her job to make sure things were done correctly." (...)
Last year, the arbitrator ordered the city to pay $836,378 for the 80-acre parcel, far more than the $126,000 Wasilla originally thought it would pay for a piece of land 65 acres larger. The arbitrator also determined that the city owed Mr. Lundgren [the owner] $336,000 in interest. Wasilla's legal bill since the eminent domain action has come to roughly $250,000 so far, according to Mr. Klinkner, the city attorney.
Mr. Lundgren has appealed the decision, arguing that the arbitrator should have awarded him more interest. "It has been 10 years; it's just insane," said Mr. Lundgren, who now lives in Panama. "All [Ms. Palin] had to do was close the transaction.""
From Politico:
"Palin, who portrays herself as a fiscal conservative, racked up nearly $20 million in long-term debt as mayor of the tiny town of Wasilla — that amounts to $3,000 per resident. She argues that the debt was needed to fund improvements."
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A lot of that was for the sports center. If the WSJ's figures are correct, the increased sales price, interest owed, and legal fees come to a cool $1.3 million in needless expenditure. And the lawsuits aren't over yet.
Coming on the heels of the most fiscally irresponsible administration in a generation, this doesn't sound like change we can believe in.
—Hilzoy 6:27 PM
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Is this how to post a link, danp?
Has anyone actually looked at this video? I see no comments. This guy should be all over the tubes, heh?
peace,
st john
Posted by: st john on September 6, 2008 at 6:36 PM | PERMALINK
guess it didn't work. Just look on The Googles Phillip Butler and mccain and you'll get the message.
phillip butler
peace,st john
Posted by: st john on September 6, 2008 at 6:41 PM | PERMALINK
It is an unfair attack on her family to point out that as mayor of 6,000 people Palin couldn't even competently build a gym!
I believe she actually had to hire a city administrator during her second term. For a city of 6,000.
But I will not mention that, because it would be an unfair attack on her family.
Posted by: anonymiss on September 6, 2008 at 6:46 PM | PERMALINK
OK, forget about it. Just Google Phillip Butler/mccain Why I Will Not Vote for John McCain
Posted by: st john on September 6, 2008 at 6:47 PM | PERMALINK
st john - I wish I could see what you typed, but I am guessing you have an unmatched arrow. For some reason if you have a left and right arrow with garbage in between, it just all disappears. What you should do though, is preview, then play around by editing and preview again. Good luck.
Posted by: Danp on September 6, 2008 at 6:47 PM | PERMALINK
she sounds like a "fiscal conservative" on the model of GB2
Posted by: sjw on September 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM | PERMALINK
For more on the problematic Palin, see this:
http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-“racist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean”/
Posted by: Aaron Baker on September 6, 2008 at 6:50 PM | PERMALINK
Palin ran for mayor in 1996 on the slogan: "Wasilla's First Christian Mayor!" injecting religion, abortion, gun rights and other wingnut hot button issues into a race that had always been a small town non partisan campaign. The incumbent was a man named Stein who just happens to be Lutheran. His name just doesn't sound like it.
She won in a "landslide", 619 votes to 412 I think it was. She immediately set about firing all the town dept. managers but hit a snag when she fired the popular librarian who refused her request to ban books Palin found objectionable. Towns people not only forced her to keep the librarian they made her hire an administrator to handle the day to day operations or face a recall.
When she entered office Wasilla had zero debt. In 2002 when term limits forced her out of office it had $22 million in debt despite the fact that the Jack Abramoff crony lobbyist she hired and her good buddy Ted Stevens managed to acquire $27 million in federal pork for her. Three of her pork projects even made McCain's wasteful spending list.
Most of that debt came from the aforementioned hockey rink/sports complex she shoved down their throats that never became the cash cow she promised it would. Who woulda thunk a indoor hockey rink in Alaska would be as popular selling the proverbial refrigerators to Eskimos. Instead of a cash cow they got another white elephant from a white elephant.
Posted by: markg8 on September 6, 2008 at 6:50 PM | PERMALINK
I'm glad these scandals are finally coming out in the MSM.
But, that's when she was mayor, let's discuss her as governor:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/08/dairygate-sarah-palin-and-myst.php
Posted by: John Henry on September 6, 2008 at 7:05 PM | PERMALINK
Isn't getting a clear title just Basic Real Estate 101?
Posted by: Varecia on September 6, 2008 at 7:05 PM | PERMALINK
So, she was sort of like a community organizer -- with responsibilities. Got it.
Posted by: beep52 on September 6, 2008 at 7:06 PM | PERMALINK
Next thing you'll be telling me that McCain's career as a jet pilot was, in practical terms, less than a total success.
Posted by: lampwick on September 6, 2008 at 7:10 PM | PERMALINK
The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget.
Crikey. There is slime under ever rock that gets turned over up there.
You know what I'd love to see?
A call to arms for Hillary. Imagine a major speech completely focused on Palin. Hillary is outside the campaign far enough, and her opinions are valued enough, that her words would reverberate like thunder.
Can you imagine Hillary exposing Palin's lies and half-truths? Ticking off the slime under every rock like clockwork? Bang. Bang. Bang! Everything about Palin is bullshit. Call it such! Enumerate the lies. List them. Debunk them. Educate the American public. Now!
I can't think of a better way to unite the Democratic party, rip Palin a new one, and elevate Hillary to the status of a Democrtic savior Saint.
Hell I'd even be happy if Barack promised her the VP position in 2012, and total support for her presidential campaign in 2016. Just do it!
We have got to win.
We have to use all our resources.
Palin is a call to arms for every democrat.
She is the snake in the Great American Experiment.
She is the death of America.
We will not survive her.
We must beat her.
Now.
Posted by: koreyel on September 6, 2008 at 7:13 PM | PERMALINK
I'm disappointed to hear that the WSJ is so sexist as to dig into Ms. Palin's private Alaskan matters like this.
Posted by: Equal Opportunity Cynic on September 6, 2008 at 7:21 PM | PERMALINK
$20M for just 8000 people? Just think of the bill she can run up for 250 million people. Let's see - that's $625 Trillion dollars!
Why, she really is a Republican!
Posted by: Glen on September 6, 2008 at 7:30 PM | PERMALINK
The Repubs, for all their faults, once respected skill, expertise.
They have dumbed down the discourse.
Choosing opinion over fact, style over substance.
McCain for all his faults once was a politician who knew the difference between can do and fondue. The nutters now own him.
If McCain wins, we'll be looking back at the time of Alberto Gonzalez as halcyon days.
Posted by: MB on September 6, 2008 at 7:31 PM | PERMALINK
There are always messy details in putting such deals together. The real story is the Wasilla Sports Complex is the pride of its community and nobody up there is running for office on the platform of closing it down to save buck. Before you see that happen, Sarah Palin will be Vice President of the United States.
Posted by: DF on September 6, 2008 at 7:32 PM | PERMALINK
There are always messy details in putting such deals together. - DF
Gee, you set the bar so low, no limbaugh dancer could get under it.
Posted by: Danp on September 6, 2008 at 7:38 PM | PERMALINK
If you think I am alarmist up there at 7:13...
Read this Sully post:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/in-hiding-for-t.html
Power pull quote:
This is absolutely third world. Since when is the governor of a state given two weeks in hiding?
Posted by: koreyel on September 6, 2008 at 7:38 PM | PERMALINK
Since most people don't understand the sport of ice hockey, let me point out some basics. First off, rinks do not make money. They use enormous amounts of electricity to make ice, the only thing that they can sell. Ask anyone in MN, MI, or one of the other hockey states. Now, as a hockey family, my wife and I heard about her building the rink and we both immediately knew where she first used her power, to have a rink built for her kid.
I'll be that sports complex is a huge drain on the city. Hockey is played 12 months of the year and her son played at an elite level, so it was very "nice" of her to get a rink up for her son.
Posted by: BK on September 6, 2008 at 8:16 PM | PERMALINK
Hey, come on. They only said she had executive experience. They didn't say she was any good at it!
You know, I bet a 'community organizer' who happened to be a Harvard Law graduate and University of Chicago instructor would have thought to make sure all the papers were properly signed before the bulldozers rolled. But hey, Obama doesn't have ANY executive experience the tell me...
Posted by: biggerbox on September 6, 2008 at 8:24 PM | PERMALINK
Hold on there a minute! What's this?
"Wasilla's legal bill since the eminent domain action..."
You mean Caribou Barbie used the power of government to seize this guy's land for her pet project?! Conservatives hate eminent domain! If you want to pound Palin there's the angle to take.
Posted by: Jambo on September 6, 2008 at 8:25 PM | PERMALINK
Hold on there a minute! What's this?
"Wasilla's legal bill since the eminent domain action..."
You mean Caribou Barbie used the power of government to seize this guy's land for her pet project?! Conservatives hate eminent domain! If you want to pound Palin there's the angle to take.
Posted by: Jambo on September 6, 2008 at 8:25 PM | PERMALINK
I wonder how the people in Wasilla are going to vote?
Posted by: ET on September 6, 2008 at 8:56 PM | PERMALINK
Wait, but this was in the WSJ, which is part of the liberal media out to persecute Republicants.
Posted by: craigie on September 6, 2008 at 9:00 PM | PERMALINK
Caribou Barbie?
Oh my...
That's a keeper.
Posted by: koreyel on September 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM | PERMALINK
Watch this and see if you think this woman is vice presidential material:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/god-is-gonna-st.html
Posted by: damselfly1213 on September 6, 2008 at 11:21 PM | PERMALINK
I remember last week when there were comparisons between Obama's speech and the movie "The American President".
What struck me is that the difference between the two performances, which did evoke similar feelings.
In the movie we had a great actor, in a studio, with multiple takes allowed, maybe three dozen actors, and workers that he knew and were primed to respond in a particular way. Then there was a process of creating the scene once all the film is shot.
But Obama had one take, in front of a live crowd of 84,000, on live television. There were no do-overs.
The movie scene was seconds long. Obama's speech was close to 45 minutes.
And so what is up with Sarah Palin? She seems more in line with an actor. She reads well in front of her fans, but she is reading. She is an actor. At some point she needs to become real. You simply cannot repeat the same lines over and over for two months, or even another week.
Posted by: tomj on September 6, 2008 at 11:35 PM | PERMALINK
First Jambo, please stop with the Caribou Barbie, it is childish and counterproductive.
Howver, it is even worse than you think. First they sued to force the original owner to sell to them instead of Lundgren, then when that failed, they sued under eminent domain to seize the land from Lundgren, then the built the complex while that suit was being adjudicated and lost repeatedly all the way to the Alaska Supreme Court. Now they are out at least $1.3 million extra over what they would have paid to make a decent offer to the Nature Conservancy back in 1998 and Lundgren still has appeals pending that could still either raise the value of the land or increase the interest owed or both.
Posted by: tanstaafl on September 6, 2008 at 11:43 PM | PERMALINK
A Republican using eminent domain to obtain land for a sports facility that their family and friends will personally benefit from??? Where have we heard this before? Oh yes, Bush and the baseball arena land deal that made him wealthy, through the use of eminent domain and then stiffing the citizens of Arlington, Texas with part of the debt, while making $10 million for himself and his partners (http://www.bushfiles.com/bushfiles/SweetheartDeal.html). Sarah Palin didn't enrich herself (that we know of), but hockey moms and their hockey-playing kids sure do benefit from having a nice, expensive, publicly funded ice rink just down the road. Eminent domain land seizures and public tax financing for personal benefit is now a 2 for 2 pattern with Republican governors who run for the White House.
Posted by: N.Wells on September 7, 2008 at 12:42 AM | PERMALINK
"There are always messy details in putting such deals together."
um.....getting title to land before you rip it up putting in utilities is hardly a messy detail.....
Posted by: just bill on September 7, 2008 at 8:39 AM | PERMALINK
And then there's this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/wasillas-meth-problem-mad_n_123996.html
If the Dems had their act together, they would all start immediately praising Palin's "executive experience" as Mayor of the Meth Capital of Alaska.
Posted by: Bill B. on September 7, 2008 at 11:18 AM | PERMALINK
And then there's this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/wasillas-meth-problem-mad_n_123996.html
If the Dems had their act together, they would all start immediately praising Palin's "executive experience" as Mayor of the Meth Capital of Alaska.
Posted by: Bill B. on September 7, 2008 at 11:18 AM | PERMALINK
The Republicans are emphasizing Sarah Palin's "executive experience."
The Democrats should talk as much as possible about Sarah Palin's "executive experience" which is a record of mismanagement, negligence, incompetence, corruption, ideological extremism and vindictive abuse of power.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on September 7, 2008 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK
Isn't it surreal that we're reduced to dissecting the kind of news story that would normally appear in one of those free suburban weekly papers that pile up on your doorstep -- when discussing the qualifications of a vice presidential candidate?
Seriously, I've worked for newspapers in towns of less than 20,000 people. This kind of story happens all the time. But never when covering those heated city council meetings did I think for a second that the buffoon in the mayor's seat would be running for vice president in a few years. Good grief.
Posted by: yowza_bean on September 7, 2008 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK
This is a perfect example of why you want someone with executive experience, and who has already cut their teeth on a number of projects like this before running our country.
What projects has obama managed without glitches?
Posted by: scruge on September 7, 2008 at 2:43 PM | PERMALINK