nothing remains of john mccain's honor, such as it ever was.

and speaking as the parent of a 4-year-old, teaching kids that young about appropriate and inappropriate touching is a very big deal that every parent i know takes to heart and strives to convey to his or her kid(s).

I am horrified by this turn, but Obama has an opening to respond in a way that is totally race neutral. We all need to remember that McCain is constantly baiting him to become the angry black man. This is an opening for him to become the angry parent, which is much easier for sheltered whitey to understand. Sad that it has come to this, but this, to use a football metaphor, is a huge hole for Obama to run through. This something Obama can attack McCain with in a debate. Perhaps he should save it for then, after road testing it ahead of time.

This election is not about issues, not facts, not details, not dignity, not honor, not values, not...

What howard said. Just when you think McPOW can't sink lower, he does.

McCain's Honor for sale on ebay, no takers

Isn't this the party that supposedly believes in hell? Do they think that's just a place for all the other evil liars?

After reading this, I guess I can now understand how comforting it would be to believe that my enemies will be subject to eternal torment. I see how this religion thing works.

I posted in the other thread that they shouldn't go negative because of this. This gives Obama the chance to be presidential. Hit back for sure but don't go negative. Just keep repeating the fact that McCain lost his honor when he embraced Bush and Rove everyday and the country is at at crossroads that deserves the American People be treated with respect.

Bad and desperate move by the thugs.

There's nothing left for them to do but ask for a pogrom against the inner cities and maybe let an islamic extremist nuke a blue state with plenty of electoral votes.

It's about as low as one can get and McCain's true colors might be exposed once and for all.

It saddens me that the McCain campaign has embraced full-throttled the politics of personal distruction. Sen. McCain seems to have no honor at this time in our nation's history. He's on a real juggernaut to the White House. He just might make it, but our beloved nation will be demolished along the way. -Kevo

Speaking of john mccain, what a pathetic old lying sack of shit. He might not want to lose a war to win an election, but in a pinch he probably would. After all, there isn't anything he won't say to try to win. All I can figure is Karl Rove and George Bush made him a gift of some pods (ala Invasion of the Body Snatchers) and he took them home without realizing what they were. I did like the response of the Obama campaign to the McCain criticism of the "lipstick on a pig" line. It wasn’t sexist because they weren't criticizing Palin, they we criticizing McCain!

As a Cub Scout leader, I can tell you that the following quote is entirely consistent with our policies and a key part of our program. We teach this to first graders:

"Barack Obama supports sensible, community-driven education for children because, among other things, he believes it could help protect them from pedophiles. A child's knowledge of the difference between appropriate and inappropriate touching is crucial to keeping them safe from predators."

So, is the BSA in favor of handing out condoms to kindergartners? No. I dare say, neither is Barack.

What a shallow, cynical sham.

Hilzoy, you are of course correct. Also please notice that N. Carolina has gone from McCan't up by four to McCan't up by twenty. Seems like what might be called an insurmountable lead. I'm sure President Palin, d'oh, I mean Bush, alright, McCain will be torn up about her/his fibbing. If Team Obama doesn't start proactively defining Palin/McCain, like NOW, he's going to lose. Or, if Obama wins by sneaking in the back door of the White House, the opportunity for a sea change in this country's politics will have been frittered away. Yes, McCain/Palin are Bush sleaze times ten. Yes, this needs to be carefully documented. The point is, their evil (and I do mean evil) plan is working. They're winning. That's it, end of story. In a way I'm glad to see them do it; it clarifies what's really at stake here more than a thousand klller speeches, more than a million small donor dollars. I dunno. Maybe I need to be patient, stop getting wrapped up in the news cycle, but damn, haven't we seen this before? I sure hope Obama, Inc. got somethin' up their collective sleeves 'cuz right now they look pathetic and weak.

Wow.

I'd say that McCain has sold his soul, but apparently he doesn't have one to worry about.

Or, if Obama wins by sneaking in the back door of the White House

That's probably not a phrase to say too loud in the company of many Obama supporters. Historical connotations and all. Just saying...

It is curious why the McCain campaign would air such a desperate ad at this time. This would seem to be something that would run in the desperate hours before a soon to be lost election. But now, when they seem to be riding high after the big convention bounce? After the hours of testimony to John McCain's selfless love of country (with videos and lots of tears) to run something so obviously devoid of character?

Can an ad like this really work? Will anyone see this ad and think that it actually sounds remotely plausible? Are there people out there willing to believe that a presidential candidate wrote legislation to teach sex ed to kindergartners, without thinking, "Hey, that seems unlikely"? Do negative ads that reach this level of absurdity still work?

I've heard of "low-information voters," but this is an appeal to no-information, borderline irrational voters. I have a hard time believing this won't bounce back at McCain. But I'm also frequently disappointed.

Conrad's phrasing may be unfortunate, but his point is extremely well taken.

"Barack Obama supports sensible, community-driven education for children because, among other things, he believes it could help protect them from pedophiles. A child's knowledge of the difference between appropriate and inappropriate touching is crucial to keeping them safe from predators."

So, is the BSA in favor of handing out condoms to kindergartners? No. I dare say, neither is Barack.

Maybe the most appropriate response would be an ad saying that McCain wants to make your kids easy prey for pedophiles.

Hey, it's every bit as honest as the shit McCain is peddling.

I read something today where Obama is backing off his opposition to 527 support. Let's hope that's true. All this McCain sleaze is a prime target for 527s.

Of course, we could always hope that the media will get disgusted and start telling the truth about McCain's dishonesty.

On second thought, let's get those 527s up and running.

Will anyone see this ad and think that it actually sounds remotely plausible?

Yes.

This has gotten my blood boiling. The brazen ugliness of this lie is simply jaw-dropping.

As we have seen throughout this political season and in many political controversies, the people who shout and protest the loudest are projecting their own shortcomings/neuroses. Could this be an indication of the pedophilial tendencies of the contender from the Republican party? Perhaps not, but we have seen the anti-gay politicians turned-out for who they are. Perhaps Obama cannot make these suggestions, but I can, and am. Does the truth even matter? We are going for the "win".

peace,
st john

It's stupid ad to run I think as it seemed like people were given the out as to why they didn't have to vote for Obama. Couple possibilies;

bad internals means they're desperate and the bounce is going to start fading.

there are some serious skeletons about to come out from Palin and they're looking for cover or that the skeletons already unearthed are gaining traction among the electorate. or both.

They've got more scum tactics up there sleeves and as usual they are trying to set the bar lower and move the country more to the right.

Or they're just twisted perverts. I vote for this one having seen McCain's campaing manager. the guy looks like he was born to be a Nazi sympathizer.

Honestly, I think he is enjoying himself.

It's really creepy, actually.

I'm telling you, if Obama said that he was against torturing children, the very next news cycle would be full of stories about how torturing children is good (Fox), or at least a debatable point that reasonable people might argue about (The Washington Post).

Honestly, I think he is enjoying himself.

It's really creepy, actually.

Here's a few of the goals of Health Education for Arlington County Public Schools for kindergartners, which I'm sure are approved by the conservative Commonwealth of Virginia and identical/similar to the goals of every other county in the state:

[Quote]

* Identify good touch / bad touches
* Learn how to respond to inappropriate approaches
* Learn appropriate expressions of affection

[End Quote]

From the APS Elementary Program of Studies, Services & Policies, 2008 - 2009.

Hell, for all I know these goals are mandated by the Republican government we've had the past few years and part of No Child Left Behind.

Why does everything with Republicans always come down to sex?

These are the most damaged and repressed people I've ever seen.

Jennifer said:
Maybe the most appropriate response would be an ad saying that McCain wants to make your kids easy prey for pedophiles.

I don't think John McCain wants children to be easy prey for pedophiles. But if the choice is between a program that helps kids protect themselves and another tax cut for corporations, well . . . sorry kids.

More brainstem politics.

The Islamotalifascextremists don't seem to be cooperating this year -- Bin Laden hasn't put out so much as a dance remix video until lately.

Putin didn't cooperate and annex the Crimea, either.

Time for a new bogeyman.

The extra seasoning is race. How would a black man teach sex to your young (white) kids?

What they are actually doing is calling Obama a black statutory rapist.

What they are actually doing is calling Obama a black statutory rapist.

Exactly. That scary black man wants to teach your little child how to f**k.

Seriously, how much lower can they get? I hope this backfires on McCain in a huge way.

It doesn't matter if it's true. All that matters is that millions of voters see it on TV, millions more than will see the debunking of the ad in a handful of newspapers.

The Obama campaign better ramp up its ability to respond to character and values smears, because there's plenty more where that came from.

Every four years Rove and Co. do the same thing. I hope after eight years somebody on our side has a clue how to deal with it.

Possibilities...

1) "bad internals means they're desperate and the bounce is going to start fading." -- I would believe this. Aside from the N Carolina poll, an outlier, the swing states and even Florida are looking fairly good. McCain's bounce was limited in MI, PA and CO.

2) Palin's saturation coverage is fading, and the GOP needs a new distraction before that one bites them. Anything but the issues.

3) Just another effort to pump up the right wing-nut base. Post-Palin, McCain has given up on the center and is counting on the right. GWB's third term indeed.

4) Continuing strategy to make Obama seem very, very scary. The Clintons helped set him up for that, unfortunately.

It's hard to know where I put the line, but I do feel that McCain has moved beyond normal spin into outright lie territory. Now that he's there, I don't see that he has any reason not to say anything he wants, ever, about himself, his running mate or his opponents.

Jeepers. The Repugs have jumped the shark. Unfortunately, millions of viewers jumped right along with them. I guess we can expect the Dems to roll out a new ad:
"John McCain wants to make it easy for child molesters to abuse your children."
Photo of McCain with a group of kids.
"John McCain, a friend of pedophiles everywhere."

Rovian politics at its slimiest. Just make shit up. The stupid people will believe it.

I don't think John McCain wants children to be easy prey for pedophiles. But if the choice is between a program that helps kids protect themselves and another tax cut for corporations, well . . . sorry kids.

So what? Barack Obama also didn't sponsor legislation to teach kindergartners all the sexual positions of the Kama Sutra. But if McCain's going to be a lying douchebag and play the character assassination game, then it's time to start throwing the knives back at him. Like the Poorman says, these rats ain't gonna fuck themselves.

John McCain: objectively pro-sexual molestation of kindergartners. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Obama better learns from Kerry and Dukakis because more are coming and become more vicious if he doesn't react. Time to let loose his own attack dogs, and stay above the fray.

You democrats need to stand up and fight back, and stop calling voters on the other side stupid.

It's a contact sport; even GW figures that one out.

BTW, some (perhaps most) of you are old enough to remember how these fuckers ran Joycelyn Elders out of Washington, for the unpardonable sin of saying that she believed that "masturbation should be taught as a natural part of sexuality." Of course all sane people recognized that she was saying that kids should be taught that there's nothing sick or unnatural about masturbation. And, of course, the rwing fucks twisted that into "OMG!!! THESE SICK PREVERT LIBRULS WANT TO TEACH YOUR KIDS HOW TO JACK IT!!! IN SCHOOL!!!"

Never mind that masturbation typically doesn't result in pregnancies or STDs. And of course, instead of getting behind Elders and telling the rightwingers to stick up their ignorant pompouse asses, Clinton had her resign.

Something about "sex" and "black people" makes the KKK fundie heads asplode. I suppose we should hand it to McCain for not coming right out and saying that Obama is going to rape your white wimmin. Because you know that's what they'd really like to say.

In the middle of all of Palin's repeated lying about the "bridge to Nowhere" they come up with an ad that doesn't contain a shred of truth? If handled correctly it could seriously backfire. It could be McCain's jump-the-shark moment.

Mostly Obama needs to hit back-- hard. No one can believe this shit and McCain needs to be exposed for blatantly and boldly lying.

So far I've seen this run on tv by commentators and on blogs-- is it actually running as an ad? Or is this a trial balloon to see how much they can get away with?

If I was in charge of the Obama campaign, I'd produce an ad that begins w/ Obama saying:

"Have you seen John McCain's latest ad?"

Show the ad, then have Obama come back in saying:

"Folks, he's lying to you again. This bill was about helping young children avoid sexual predators, not teaching them about sex. If John McCain was serious about reducing partisan rancor in Washington, he wouldn't be pulling plays like this from the Karl Rove playbook. This November 4th, let's begin putting the politics of fear and smear behind us and bring real change to Washington."

Then again, what do I know...

Isn't this the party that supposedly believes in hell?

Now THERE's a fascinating question, and one that means a great deal to me as an Evangelical Christian repulsed by the trash that comes out of the present-day GOP.

My best guess is, at the top are a bunch of folks like Rove, an atheist who's blatantly willing to exploit the faith of others; and like GWB, who seems to have certain tepid religious beliefs out there in the hereafter but don't let them impinge in any way on the quest for power in the here-and-now.

I know there are some really staunch "Bible-believing Christians" in Congress (e.g. one from VA whose name escapes me) and I'm surprised supporting this mess doesn't weigh on their conscience more. But then little about the Religious Right makes sense to me any longer.

I'm shocked by John McCain's commerical, and his lies about Barack Obama. As a good Christian who attends a church where people speak in tongues, I cannot condone this abuse. I therefore tender my resignation as a Republican and will run for Joe Lieberman's seat when he is up for re-election.

This is a "Senator McCain, have you no shame?" moment.

Time for the National Enquirer to Open its wallet and bring some real sleaze to this party. And, Hustler Magazine's Larry Flynt, start offering your rewards for information. I bet there is some stuff on Levi that is not very complimentary. A studley hockey player who, I bet, has had more than his share of young Wassilians. True? Do I care? You know how those Eskimos are!

This is getting really slimy.

Turn the 527s loose!

peace,
st john

Jim in Pa,

They can't do that. Any rebuttle that puts Obama in the same sentence with pervert implications is a non starter and just reinforces negative stereotype.

The "you have no shame" will do just fine an question his honor.

Work in that the country faces too many hurdles for this. If anything interview struggling people and have them ask John McCain why he's betraying America when we need him the most. Country First??

"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."

Start the response ad with that.

Fasten your seat belts. The next 56 days are going to be very bumpy.

McCain has declared culture war on America. He is out of his fucking mind, but that is all he has. The Rovette scum buckets will do anything.

This is not as low as McCain will go. Tell your friends the old geezer is a liar.

Don't let anything fool you. The bastard might love America but he hates America. It is sure as shooting that hates you and me just as much as he hates Obama. If he didn't he wouldn't inflict this kind of crap on us.

Look at it this way: 1968-2000 they lie, 2000-2008 they lie, 2008-? they lie.
They lie. No mistake. They lie.
Problem is they believe they get rewarded for this behavior,lie=reward with illusion of power=greed=lie=more lies
When will normal people start to stop listening?
By normal we are speaking of people with a few connected brain cells working.
The bushcons need not try and figure this out.

Don't forget pappy bush was head of cia, kenron lay their financial guru and roveroolala their sewage spill/leak dispensman.
Ethics has never made their priority list.

I'm surprised supporting this mess doesn't weigh on their conscience more.

If it's a given that God wants you to win, bringing closer to reality the Christian commonwealth.
...but
You can't win without resorting to extreme measures,
...then
It more or less follows that God either a.) has to excuse your resorting to those measures or b.) was jerking you around when He told you how important His Commonwealth is.

And b.) is impossible..

just read Josh Marshall's post about child abuse. Looks like they wanted to get out in front of the story by cranking up the heat as high as possible.

The saturation lying is the only way to protect them from Palin ruining the campaign.

Glancing over the comments, the word SCUM jumped out and though it's not a word I normally use, I think that just about sums it up. If what you want is scum in the WH, McCain is your guy.

This election has become a character test for the American press and ultimately the American voter. Scum or no scum, what is it going to be?

So can John McCain's position be summarized as this?

John McCain: "Hi little girl. I'll show you mine, if you show me yours."

To John McCain, from the ghost of John Lennon:

"How do you sleep?"

Via Kevin
From Republican strategist John Feehery:

"The more the New York Times and The Washington Post go after Sarah Palin, the better off she is, because there's a bigger truth out there and the bigger truths are she's new, she's popular in Alaska and she is an insurgent. As long as those are out there, these little facts don't really matter."
Just keep repeating...
These little facts don't really matter.
These little facts don't really matter.
These little facts don't really matter.

If John McCain were 40 years younger, how old would Palin be? Do the math. McCain thinks he is 32, so he must think Sarah is what, 10? Got the picture? Hide your daughters, cuz big John is on the loose!

I don't feel like a saint right now, so will just sign off as
peace

What a brave man John McCain is! He is using kindergartners as props for his lies!!!

No one should be able to hide behind kindergartners like that!

Ugh.

If only Democrats could do anything besides cry and go tell the teacher they are being bullied. The fact that the Obama campaign has gone fetal when attacked by McCain simply proves his unfitness for command.

John McCain has won the election by being the tougher, smarter, and better candidate. You may not like the spin of the ad, but that doesn't matter. The fact that the ad is arguably false (and it is arguable, not certain) doesn't matter. Obama couldn't play the game -- he wasn't tough or smart enough. That's why he lost the election.

If only Democrats could do anything besides cry and go tell the teacher they are being bullied. The fact that the Obama campaign has gone fetal when attacked by McCain simply proves his unfitness for command.

John McCain has won the election by being the tougher, smarter, and better candidate. You may not like the spin of the ad, but that doesn't matter. The fact that the ad is arguably false (and it is arguable, not certain) doesn't matter. Obama couldn't play the game -- he wasn't tough or smart enough. That's why he lost the election.

Kumbaya, baby, Kumbaya. We're singing Kumbaya all the way to Nov. 4!

Thank you kindly for the informative explanation.

And great work in your new position. Nothing against Kevin Drum but you clearly have stepped things up a notch.

Time to ask for a raise.

And Kevin has stepped things up at MotherJones as well.

A win win for a loyal reader.

Cheers to you.

If America falls for this bologna...the Extreme right could never chant the battlecry Country first ever again!

I think the ad is more odious than is being acknowledged.

I don’t think it’s an ad about sex education.

A black man, sex, and children. Potent stuff.

There is one picture of children, and I think they are all white (please check this.)

The very next image is of Obama, looking down and sort of over his shoulder, smiling – at what? At the children, of course.

Smiling about what, exactly?

It’s really not that subtle, to me anyway. But please judge for yourself, this is a link to the ad on TPM:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/new_mccain_ad_badly_distorts_o_1.php

This election is not about issues, not facts, not details, not dignity, not honor, not values, not..

When has it ever? It continues to amaze me how naive many Obama diehards are.. someone saying they'll act honorably during a campaign is never a guarantee that they will. Wake up - this is the final battle.. they're gonna pull out all the stops. Remember the analysts saying during the primaries that the McCain camp is going to be worse than Hillary? They weren't kidding.

Posted by: anonymous on September 10, 2008 at 1:43 AM | PERMALINK

I think you are correct. Thanks for pointing that out.

And good God. Is this what things have come to? Very disturbing.

It's abundantly clear that this is going to be the most scurrilous Republican presidential campaign in modern history, eclipsing G.H.W. Bush's in 1988 and Nixon-Agnew '72.

The time has come for Obama to produce an ad in which he personally calls out McCain for dishonest and dishonorable campaign tactics. He knows he can't win on issues, so he stoops to distortions and outright lies.

Obama should follow that up by calling him out face to face in the first debate: You'd rather win an election than tell the truth. You won't tell the truth about me, but I'll tell the truth about you. You have chosen to give the voters a stark, simple choice, between honesty and dishonesty.

It would be a shame for him to give up what remains of his honor without getting anything at all in return.

Wait, John McRove had any honor to begin with? News to me.

John McCain/Karl Rove are running a shameful campaign. Hell is too good a place for them.

I hope Obama really lets them have it, in an understated yet still angry way. 'Though this country has some serious problems, they are not running a serious campaign. They're lying, they get caught and they're still lying. And still not saying how they will help the people of this country.' Something like that.

""Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV."

Comprehensive sex education for 5 year olds to include "instruction in the prevention of sexually transmitted infections".

These details will be aired, and Obama will stutter and claim pay grade deficiency when trying to address them. The ad is tough. But the ad is accurate."

Important to remember that this tactic is recycled from the 2004 Senate race, when Alan Keyes used it. So, the Obama camp is experienced in responding, even having a sense of how this crap is being received.

Also important to read Newsweek's top article this morning: Warned by the Court: A judge repeatedly told Palin and family not to badmouth her sister's ex. The McCain camp most likely knew the Newsweek piece was coming, and made a preemptive attack to stir up dust that might obscure Sarah's less-than clean past.

Bose, that doesn't surprise me in the least. There's plenty of evidence about Palin's character flaws, but it's not going to be acknowledged by the MSM by and large.

It's up to the Obama campaign, the DNC and the 527s to expose Palin and McCain. Unfortunately, so far, Obama doesn't seem inclined to do that. It doesn't matter if you're right and your opponent is a complete scumbag, if the independents and undecided voters don't know it, you lose.

Since Rock is spreading the same lying shit here that he was on Kevin Drum's blog, I'll post the same reply:

The ad is lying bullshit, and Rock is spreading propaganda:

http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/789668.html

From Kansas City.com:

What happened: A new 30-second TV ad attacks Barack Obama's record on education, saying that Obama backed legislation to teach " 'comprehensive sex education' to kindergartners." The announcer then says, "Learning about sex before learning to read? Barack Obama. Wrong on education. Wrong for your family."

Why that's [the ad] wrong: This is a deliberately misleading accusation. It came hours after the Obama campaign released a TV ad critical of McCain's votes on public education. As a state senator in Illinois, Obama did vote for but was not a sponsor of legislation dealing with sex ed for grades K-12.

But the legislation allowed local school boards to teach "age-appropriate" sex education, not comprehensive lessons to kindergartners, and it gave schools the ability to warn young children about inappropriate touching and sexual predators.

Republican Alan Keyes tried to use Obama's vote against him in the 2004 U.S. Senate race. At the time, Obama spoke about wanting to protect young children from abuse. He made clear then that he was not supporting teaching kindergartners about explicit details of sex..

The ad is goddamned lie. Period.

And don't forget the whole gang is looking at jail time.
You think this is as bad as it will get?
They will do whatever they need.
What's to stop them now?
They have stolen all the money.
Law, ethics, right, wrong, huh?
Come on. Don't get distracted.
At least don't stay distracted!

Okay---you want to bury this guy and his phony honor? Fine.

Fifteen words, people. Just fifteen little words from Obama. Fifteen words that will make McCain explode in front of a national audience, and put the Palin/McCain campaign in a grave so deep it'll never be able to climb out again:

"Well, it sure looks like John McCain is working hard to win the pedophile vote."

You link that campaign to defending pedophiles, and it'll be Palin/McCain's "Willie Horton moment...."

Interesting they should hate this now they have an Alaskan as VP Nominee - - given that Alaska has one of the highest rates of incest in the developed world.

Pity they don't want to educate their kids to stop it....

This is the perfect opportunity for Obama, personally, to give McCain a kick in his gross, haven't been flossed in years, teeth that will knock him into the middle of next week.

I don't expect he will.

No accomplishments? What a dumb fuck, McCain is! The Lugar-Obama Nonproliferation initiative was probably the most important piece of legislation in the past ten years, as far as keeping Americans safe. Certainly more important than anything John McCain or George W. Bush have sponsored.

For a candidate, if you supported it, you own it. That's just the way it is and I'm not sure its unfair. That was a weak point, Steve, IMHO.

Wow. The party that brought us FoleyGate is getting really desperate.

Also, since when did "Insurgent" become a compliment?

Jennifer said that an ad saying 'McCain wants to make your kids easy prey for pedophiles' would be fair turnabout; maybe so but 'McCain cares more about being president than protecting your kids from pedophiles' might be more effective. In fact, McCain's caring about nothing more than being president(it is owed to him) would be a fine narrative on which to hang all his lies.

For a candidate, if you supported it, you own it. That's just the way it is and I'm not sure its unfair. That was a weak point, Steve, IMHO.

Posted by: Michael7843853

By the same token, McCain owns this ad.

So it's entirely appropriate for someone to run an ad that says: "John McCain wants your kids to be molested by pedophiles." Because you know, he objects to teaching kids about sexual predators.

Hey, it's every bit as accurate as the ad he's running.

It has been so long since HONOR had anything to do with Grampy McShame that he couldn't define the word...and that is bad enough...but having a LIAR on the ticket with him (to compliment his lies) and having the ability to make our media tremble in fear that they will not have access to either of them makes me WEEP!!!

The truth is, McCain is a nasty vindictive old man, if he were elected this country would be in a great deal of trouble (even more than it is)the republicans have shown that they are nasty and racist. It is good to see that the French and Italians are no longer bothering to even agree with Cheney, they seem to know that the Georgia situation was caused by the neocons to help McCain in some way (which is why we now have to pay billions for re-construction of Georgia)

May I just take a moment to express my frustration at the truly outrageous depths of stupidity and nastiness to which John McCain has, so far with great success, taken our politics?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's the tiniest policy point...

But why must objection to participation in sex-ed come in WRITTEN form.

If a parent shows up screaming at the principal, does anyone think the kid should be forced to go anyway?

When we ask for something in writing it's because we don't trust the person to admit they agreed to something later. (Contracts) Does this circumstance apply? It's utterly reversible. Just spill the beans to the kid that was left out and the parent had second thoughts later.

This gives right wing conspiracy freaks a chance to think we're putting obstacles in the way to raising their children as morally upright as they think possible. Why feed that?

At this point if I was in the minority that agreed with McCain on the issues, I would have to vote for Obama. The idea of a man with McCain's character becoming President is truly scary.

The ad is simply not credible. I mean, how many people are actually going to believe the yarn that Barrack Obama had a "legislative accomplishment"!?? C'mon. No way.

If only Democrats could do anything besides cry and go tell the teacher they are being bullied. The fact that the Obama campaign has gone fetal when attacked by McCain simply proves his unfitness for command.

John McCain has won the election by being the tougher, smarter, and better candidate.

Posted by: Rock on September 10, 2008 at 1:31 AM

Rock, a question: If you're so tough, how come when I put the mouse over your name, I see "kos@dailykos.com"? Boy, that's brave.

"Rock"? More like a pebble playing macho.

The NYTimes has an article today detailing Obama's education policy. Whether you agree with those details or not, there is no doubt that he has thought seriously about education policy. McCain? He is running lies saying that Obama wants to teach kids how to have sex and not how to read.

I've been obsessed with this campaign since (what seems like) the beginning of time. But I don't think I can stand it any more. If this country decides not to elect a serious person who will work to solve our problems, and instead chooses a liar and an underqualified VP, I will lose all faith in this country. Even the fact that this race is so close at this point fills me with dispair. From this point on, I don't think I can read these blogs any more - I think they're damaging my mental stability. If McCain is elected, we get what we deserve, and I'll try not to care.

I debunked every single statement made in that "Education" ad. Every statement was a lie. Every. Single. One.

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It is curious why the McCain campaign would air such a desperate ad at this time. This would seem to be something that would run in the desperate hours before a soon to be lost election. But now, when they seem to be riding high after the big convention bounce? After the hours of testimony to John McCain's selfless love of country (with videos and lots of tears) to run something so obviously devoid of character?

That's been occurring to me, too. This is the kind of ad you run the last week of October, not right after the convention. I think McCain is in WAY more trouble than the polls are indicating and he's desperately flailing around to shore up what support he has before it starts falling away again.

"when Obama tells us that the Palin lipstick/pig remark wasn't an insult directed towards Governor Palin..."

How can you possibly insult someone who willingly compares herself to a pit bull?

Here's a hanky Gina. You, you nation of whiners.

Gina is one of the McCain trolls desperately trying to divert our attention from the real issues by these idiotic displays of phony outrage. Spare us. We're not buying it, and you clowns aren't getting an apology.