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September 10, 2008

THINKING LIKE A REPUBLICAN.... The Washington Post's E. J. Dionne Jr. had a column four years ago this month that's always stuck with me. He noted, in the midst of the last presidential campaign, that Republicans are not above lying, but Democrats just can't bring themselves to do the same thing. "A very intelligent political reporter I know said the other night that Republicans simply run better campaigns than Democrats," Dionne wrote at the time. "If I were given a free pass to stretch the truth to the breaking point, I could run a pretty good campaign, too."

I thought about the column when I was chatting this morning with a friend who works in Democratic campaign politics. We commiserated over the fact that Obama has become efficient in responding to the constant barrage of deceptive attacks from the McCain campaign, but doesn't launch deceptive attacks of his own against the McCain campaign.

My friend asked me what Atwater/Rove/Schmidt would do if they worked for Obama. What kind of attacks would they make against McCain? It got me thinking.

My first ad would probably be pretty straightforward: John McCain wants to cut off all U.S. aid to Israel.

Well, no, actually he doesn't, but I think I could probably make a good ad that says he does. In April, McCain argued that he could cut $65 billion in earmarks from the federal budget. Asked where the number came from, the McCain campaign cited a Congressional Research Service's report that identifies $65 billion in "earmarks."

Except, the CRS's report also included all U.S. financial support for Israel. The aid budget, for the purpose of CRS accounting, is an "earmark."

Soon after, the McCain campaign scrambled, said it no longer liked the CRS report, and assured voters that aid to Israel wouldn't be affected. But that doesn't change the fact that, in April, McCain (inadvertently) vowed to voters that he wouldn't hesitate to cut off all U.S. financial support to Israel, starting in 2009.

Now, I know McCain doesn't really want to cut off aid to Israel, just as McCain knows Obama doesn't want to give sex-ed lessons to kindergarteners. The difference is, McCain approves disgusting ads he knows to be false. The Israel ad is, by most measures, even more honest and accurate than McCain's, even though I know it's completely misleading.

So, what kind of ads would you run if you wanted to be like the McCain campaign? Remember, there has to be some kind of basis for the claim. You can't just say, "McCain sells heroin to school children." You have to be support the ridiculous attack with something, just as I can back up the claim that McCain wants to cut off aid to Israel.

What have you got?

Steve Benen 2:59 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (164)

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Posted by: baked alaska on September 10, 2008 at 3:02 PM | PERMALINK

i'd immediately go after mccain's tenure as POW, like the swiftboaters did with kerry's vietnam service. i'd stoop so low as to question mccain's mental fitness, and include some of those quotes flying around out there about how "scary" mccain's temper is. by the time we were done, the country would think mccain was a vietnam vet with serious mental issues that left him woefully unqualified to hold office.

just sayin'.

Posted by: john on September 10, 2008 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

The difference is, Democrats aren't given the same license to lie, that republicans are. America expects it out of Republicans, so they don't pay a price. Also, Democrats need to be able to fake outrage much better. This is where we lose the game. We are so used to the lies, we don't even bother calling them on it, in any forceful way!

Posted by: Joy on September 10, 2008 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

The difference is, Democrats aren't given the same license to lie, that republicans are. America expects it out of Republicans, so they don't pay a price. Also, Democrats need to be able to fake outrage much better. This is where we lose the game. We are so used to the lies, we don't even bother calling them on it, in any forceful way!

Posted by: Joy on September 10, 2008 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

We don't need to speculate on this -- go back 8.5 years and you'll see exactly that they did. The he-fathered-a-black-child-while-overseas is the one everyone remembers, but who remembers since-getting-out-of-POW-camp-he-ain't-been-right-in-the-head?

Posted by: scott_m on September 10, 2008 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

Sarah Palin thinks rape victims bring it on themselves and wants to punish them further. She'll force rape victims to have their rapist's baby, just like she forced them to pay for their own rape kits in the city of Wasilla.


Oh wait, that's not a deceptive attack ad. It's the simple truth.

Posted by: Keori on September 10, 2008 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK


If Steve is a prick for suggesting creative responses to McCain's dishonorable ads, then what, praytell, is John McCain??

Posted by: Katie on September 10, 2008 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

I'd paint him as reckless, going all the way back to his time in the Navy, where he crashed five planes after finishing at the bottom of his class. Throw in how he ditched his wife, the Keating 5 and end with how his reflexive response to any foreign conflict is to invade, fading to black with his comments about other wars and bomb, bomb Iran.

More seriously, where is the ad with "other wars" and "bomb, bomb Iran"? I mean, come on.

Posted by: NHCt on September 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

"McCain denounced his country during time of war!"

-- albeit under torture.

Posted by: pa on September 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

Pretty simple, really.

Pictures of John in the Military Academy. Announcer: "896 of a class of 899."

Pictures of John McCain on the flight deck in front of his plane. Announcer: "5 airplanes lost at the cost of $XXX to taxpayers."

Video of John McCain on Fox news expressing his voting record with George Bush.

Announcer: John McCain. Not fit to lead.


Posted by: Bret on September 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

McCain cheated on his wife with a drug addict who stole from her own charity and picked an unqualified secessionist with a penchant for firing those who had the audacity not to support or to divorce her sister.

Oh wait, that's the truth.

Posted by: doubtful on September 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

One of the first, which still doesn't quite make it to misleading because they are essentially true:

1. "John McCain cares more about keeping soldiers in the line of fire than he cares about providing for veterans who have fought honorably for our freedoms. McCain opposed the Webb GI bill because he believes that if veterans are provided for adequately, they won't re-enlist. Veterans need GI Bill benefits. Not everyone can marry an heiress. McCain: putting politics above our vets."

2. John McCain supports torture. Although he was tortured himself and initially made a show of opposing torture, McCain now supports US policies allowing torture even though experts believe this will make it more likely that our captured soldiers will be tortured. McCain: putting politics above our soldiers."

Posted by: Buffalonian on September 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

I would carpet bomb Florida with ads portraying Palin as a charter member of Jews for Jesus, a Pat Buchanan acolyte and then mix in some Ted Hagee for good measure.

Posted by: cha cha is my dance on September 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

Keori.. Really all you need to do is tell the truth and it would seem like a totally fabricated tale "Palin sat on her ass in Wasilla while collecting travel perks" "McCain Campain Shields Palin from reporters becauuse she is too uniformed to answer questions." You get my drift

Posted by: John R on September 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

McCain kisses boys

Posted by: John McCain on September 10, 2008 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

I'd go directly after McCain's honor. It will make him furious, which is even better.

If he dares to bring up being a POW, say that the
McCain who stood up to the North Vietnames wouldn't recognize the sleazebag who currently goes by that name. McCain's sold his soul, hiring the same people who lied about him, so they could lie about Obama. Say so, at every opportunity.

Posted by: Joe Buck on September 10, 2008 at 3:14 PM | PERMALINK

-- albeit under torture.

Well, not necessarily. Several people on both sides of the conflict have cast doubt on McCain's alleged ill-treatment.

And, to add insult to injury, McCain and Bush's redefinitions of torture put the alleged methods OUTSIDE the definition.

Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on September 10, 2008 at 3:14 PM | PERMALINK

I would also suggest going after the first wife story.

When John McCain came back from Vietnam, he found his former-model wife had been disfigured by a terrible accident. He almost immediately began committing adultery with numerous women, including his second wife, heiress and socialite. They got married one month after he divorced his first wife, who said "My marriage ended because John wanted to be 25, not 40." John McCain: self-center and hypocritical then, self-centered and hypocritical now.

Posted by: Buffalonian on September 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

The first thing I thought when I saw this article in today's Newsweek that the Republican approach would be to scream from the rooftops that Palin is a child abuser.


Posted by: lowroad on September 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

i'd immediately go after mccain's tenure as POW, like the swiftboaters did with kerry's vietnam service. i'd stoop so low as to question mccain's mental fitness,

Indeed. I would also go after his "honor": he signed a confession after simply being exposed to what even HE now considers merely "enhanced interrogation techniques". HE SIGNED A CONFESSION! SIMPLY UNDER MINOR PRESSURE OF INTERROGATION LIKE WE GIVE TO OUR PRISONERS!

Posted by: Praedor Atrebates on September 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

I've got to go with john on this one and think going after McCain's mental fitness would be a big one. And if Rove were involved, there'd naturally be a secret insinuation among insiders that McCain turned into a butt pirate during his captivity, and still secretly lusts after young Vietnamese boys.

But of course, it doesn't really work like this. For whatever reason, our politics are governed by the same rules as professional wrestling, where the Republicans are the bad guys who are expected to cheat while Democrats are the good guys who get in trouble even when they don't cheat. And just as we expected Hulk Hogan to beat Rowdy Roddy Piper even if Piper cheated (and yes, I just dated myself with that WWF reference), the media expects Democrats to win. But as it turns out, the joke is on America as these people are secretly siding with the cheaters the whole time as they decided that the cheaters are more fun.

And so there is no chance that we can get away with cheating. As it is, Obama gets "fact checked" for not telling "whole truths" about McCain's record, while McCain's utterly false claims get the "he said, she said" treatment. And that's just the way it works.

Posted by: Doctor Biobrain on September 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain wants to raise your taxes.

When he says he wants to cut your taxes, he's lying. He wants to raise your taxes to give himself a big tax cut.

I guess $100 million dollars just isn't enough for John McCain.

Think you can live on $100 million? Then why can't John McCain?

Tell John McCain that he can't take money out of your pocket to line his and vote for Barack Obama.

Posted by: PhilTBastid on September 10, 2008 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK

How about "John McCain doesn't want to see Osama bin Laden brought to justice." Literally true? No. But he did question Obama's judgment in stating that the U.S. should chase Al Qaeda into Pakistan.

Posted by: anon on September 10, 2008 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK

"John McCain served his country in Vietnam, as did thousands of Americans. He wants you to remember he was a POW. With these reminders he wants to distract you from the fact that Americans are dying daily in Iraq in an ill-conceived war that he hopes to continue. He most certainly doesn't want you know that he personally profits from every death. John McCain is a traitor."

Posted by: MissMudd on September 10, 2008 at 3:17 PM | PERMALINK

How about a mushroom cloud? Tie it to the Pentecostal goal of the Rapture and make out that Palin, a Pentecostal, wants to get her finger on the nuclear button so she can kick start the Rapture.

OR, how about saying Palin is in the Alaska Independence Party; then tell people just what that means?

Posted by: Peter Waksman on September 10, 2008 at 3:17 PM | PERMALINK

Echoing the sentiments posted above, one wouldn't have to lie:
Keating 5. Military records are sealed. Against MLK day. Flip flopped on over 80 positions. He's not very healthy. He doesn't understand Iraq. He doesn't understand economics. He doesn't support health care or education benefits for the very veterans he supposedly champions.

The list goes on.

Posted by: on September 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

This wouldn't work. Every time Obama says something, the media portrays it in the best light for Republicans and in the worst way for Democrats. They would immediately fact check the heck out of it and then they would start the Obama lies / exaggerates theme.

Republicans get away with it because they are held to absolutely no standard at all while Democrats are held to not only the highest standard, but one that is always tilted toward the Republican viewpoint.

My point is, it isn't the campaign, it's the media. This is the same thing as 2004 and as 2000. I don't know what to do about this.

I also should add that I am sick of reading (not here, Steve is doing a great job in calling out the media) about what the Obama campaing should be doing or is doing wrong. There is literally nothing he can do that would work. Everything is portrayed as good for the Republicans in the media.

It's the media, not the Democrats that are throwing this election.

Posted by: Cols714 on September 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

John Rumble,

I and a few other white, 25-25 women friends have been coming up with narratives to use with other white, 25-35 year old women as to why voting McCain/Palin is a bad idea. That whole "paying for your own rape kit" thing got one undecided neighbor woman so outraged she donated to the Obama campaign on the spot.

If McCain wants Palin to relate to women voters, oh, we'll show how she relates to women voters all right.

Posted by: Keori on September 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain wants to defund autism research. The Combating Autism Act began life as an earmark. That should help offset the Palin bounce w/in the special needs community.

Posted by: dwight meredith on September 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

Not sure how I'd put this in an ad, but I couldn't help noticing that when John McCain told his POW story at the RNC, he left out the part about trying to hang himself in his cell only to be be stopped by the guards and put on suicide watch.

I suspect if one of Karl Rove's political opponents had broken under torture (which McCain admits) and attempted suicide (which McCain also admits), that would not go unmentioned in ads. I'm guessing they'd use the former to question his heroism and the latter to question his psychological stability.

Posted by: Eyescribe on September 10, 2008 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

So many options.
1. John McCain suffers from dementia. Simply run maybe 5 "gotcha" clips where he said something, then denied saying it, with dates. Then, say, "If John McCain can't remember what he said (Insert shortest period of time here) then how can he lead?"

2. John McCain devalues marriage. Tell a barely slanted version of how he divorced his first wife, and started dating the second his second before the divorce was up. Then, "If John McCain thinks so little of marriage, how can we trust him to defend it from Hollywood ideals?"

3. Temper. As others have suggested.

4. John McCain is lazy. First, show simple statistics on how often he's shown up to the Senate in the last year. Run a brief clip of him talking about an issue, then say how many times he missed a vote about it. Then show W at Crawford, "Can we afford another part-time president?"

The problem is that when Dem's go this route, two things happen. First, we generally believe that facts matter. Mostly because they so often support basic progressive ideas. As a result, we end up sounding like that Direct TV commercial talking about how cable companies hate puppies.

Secondly, the media always portrays this as whining when Dems do it. It's their narrative. Dems whine, and the GOP is aggressive. It's too easy for them to write. They just pull of their "Whiny Democrats" template and fill in the blanks.

Posted by: Diogenes on September 10, 2008 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK

Why not simply play the tapes of McCain as McCain.... like Rove did with Kerry 4 years ago saying... "I was for it before I was against it...blah blah"

There are some real chestnuts out there...McCain and 'bomb bomb Iran'.... laughing..... or walking thru the Iraq marketplace with flack jackets, helicopters, etc and claiming how 'safe' it is....

Republicans always go for the strength of their opponents and twist them into a confusing mess. That's the key.... not the lying. Do the "same with John McCain" How about "more of the same with John McCain".... got a nice ring to it.

Posted by: mkrrpc on September 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK

Second Buffalonian's first point about short-changing veterans. And get veterans to do the ad. Vetted veterans, to head off GOP smears. Ideally, female and wounded veterans.

Posted by: allbetsareoff on September 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK


I know Obama has said he doesn't support 527s, but it's a free country. We don't have to do what he says.

If there was a 527 which created a Palin/Jews for Jesus/Agents of Intolerance ad for Florida, I would HAPPILY send them money. Lots of it.

Who do we talk to about this? Who is the the person who can get this off the ground? any ideas?

Posted by: Winston Smih on September 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK


Posted by: JRS Jr on September 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK

"It's time for John McCain to stop hiding behind Sarah Palin's skirts and start debating the real issues facing this country."

Posted by: Bryan C. Kennedy on September 10, 2008 at 3:22 PM | PERMALINK

Roll tape of AIP leader talking about secession.

Then roll tape of Sarah Palin welcome message to AIP's concention.

John McCain approves of *that* message [cite any newspaper article where he welcomes her to the ticket].

Do you?

Posted by: PhilTBastid on September 10, 2008 at 3:22 PM | PERMALINK

Oh yeah, some advice for Obama: show up in the announcer's booth at a major sport event. Exchange a few pleasantries and compliment the two teams.

Posted by: Peter Waksman on September 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain is against equal pay for women.

Posted by: Mary on September 10, 2008 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK

I wouldn't hit McCain on his service or being a POW, I would hit him on his record for veterans. Hard.

Saying Support the Troops is a fine catch phrase, but doing nothing behind it.

The other ad I would do is "Uncertain" detailing every flip flop you can get into a 60 second spot...in his own words.

One frame he says this...then split screen he says that. Over and over again. Especially on abortion, taxes and the economy.

Posted by: MsJoanne on September 10, 2008 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain wants Cindy AND Sarah to enter the "Miss Buffalo Chip" contest. "Let's begin with values the Republican truly understands" McCain has said, adding "I look forward to the banana eatin' contest!"

Posted by: -jlinge- on September 10, 2008 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

As much as this "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" tactic would make me feel good at a visceral level, I stay away from it.

The "liberal" press would be all over how the Democrats are lying minus the "balance." Democrats do not get the same leeway that Republican get.

Posted by: ET on September 10, 2008 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain thinks you can't read; or, if you can, that you confine your reading to Little Golden Books and Doctor Seuss. It would never occur to him that you might read Alexander Solzhenitsyn, authour of such great works as "Cancer Ward", "The Gulag Archipelago" and "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich". If he was worried about your literary ventures, he wouldn't have extrapolated Solzhenitsyn's scene about a prisoner drawing a cross in the dirt in front of another prisoner - in order to motivate him to go on living without having spoken a word - into that bullshit story about his guard in The Nam drawing a cross in the sand in front of his hut at Christmas, and the two Christians worshiping together. Nice pandering to the base, but bullshit nonetheless.

John McCain is so packed full of bullshit that, if you see his buttons vibrating, best to take cover.


Posted by: Mark on September 10, 2008 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

McCain murdered 167American heroes and was never held accountable. (USS Forrester)

McCain in bed with lobbyists. (Show picture of McCain and Vicki Iserman, Rick Davis, Black and Schuenemann on a bed)

McCain nominates Republic of Georgia leader for Nobel Peace Prize, then encourages him to bomb Ossetia.

Posted by: Danp on September 10, 2008 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

Easy: after he returned from Vietnam, military doctors diagnosed John McCain as mentally unstable, which is why he refuses to sign a Standard Form 180 releasing his military records, and why he avoids discussing the details of his time there and time after he returned.

John Kerry signed a Standard Form 180 during his campaign. What's John McCain hiding?

Posted by: Max on September 10, 2008 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

As several others have already noted, you don’t even have to lie. That’s a plus.

But I think there’s something to be said about the style and tone of the ads in addition to the content. (Style over substance is the whole issue here, isn’t it?) Why not an ad that uses ominous music, nuclear explosions, rivers of blood, whatever it takes to get across the point the McCain is a warmonger? The Obama campaign doesn’t need to start lying, but I do think they need to get over their high-mindedness about putting out messages that appeal to the lizard brain.

(My own idea: First a montage of footage of wounded soldiers, crying children, exploding bombs, flag-draped coffins, dead civilians, basically the most horrifying imagery you could get away with on television. Then a simple question against a black screen: “Do you like war?” Cut McCain singing “Bomb bomb Iran.” Black screen: “John McCain does.”)

Posted by: Stephen Stralka on September 10, 2008 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

One more just for fun: According to the ancient Greeks a warrior comes how with his shield or upon it. A hero needs to come home with his shield or upon it. But a martyr can die for a noble cause. Which one is John McCain? I think he must be a ghost.

Posted by: Peter Waksman on September 10, 2008 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

Get a clue from JFK's 1960 campaign. Remember he and Bobby were the "tough guys" who weren't going to play the nice-guy, polite politics exemplified by Adlai Stevenson, who lost to the Republicans in 1952, 1956. So they ran with a number of attack lines. One of the most effective, if a bit over-stated was the idea that the U.S. had a "missile gap" playing on public anxiety that the US was number two in the space race (Sputnik!). Surprise: Kennedy won.

In 2008, any number of Bush screw-ups could be connected to McCain/Palin. First, the billions of taxpayer dollars wasted in Iraq due to corruption and fraud. Pictures of the huge amounts of cash squandered--literally pallets of cash unaccounted for. How about ads showing Bush golfing cheerfully after receiving "we are about to be attacked" national security warning? And maybe an ad showing McCain and Bush celebrating with a birthday cake in AZ as Katrina is destroying America's (12th?) biggest city? Is that to say that McCain is as culpable as Bush? Thats his problem to sort out, not Obama's.

Posted by: kj on September 10, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

1. Laughing at "how do we beat the bitch". Sexist bastard.

2. Cyndi McCain. That's what he means by honor and loyalty.

3. McCain is in favor of pedophelia (since he opposes giving children enough information to keep them safe).

4. Goes to a baptist church but hasn't let himself be baptized. Wanted Lieberman but picked Palin. You do the math.

Posted by: Maggie on September 10, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain ranked the 5th lowest in his class, and has difficulty remembering facts.

Posted by: beans on September 10, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

1. Laughing at "how do we beat the bitch". Sexist bastard.

2. Cyndi McCain. That's what he means by honor and loyalty.

3. McCain is in favor of pedophelia (since he opposes giving children enough information to keep them safe).

4. Goes to a baptist church but hasn't let himself be baptized. Wanted Lieberman but picked Palin. You do the math.

Posted by: Maggie on September 10, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, the note above Bridget is good. The ad would show the Palin family at the convention, and then say, "Where's Bridget? What is John McCain ashamed of? His running mate isn't ashamed of her unwed pregnant daughter. What is John McCain hiding?"

But the ad about Israel makes perfect sense to run. Your friend's exactly right. Obama runs the ad. They deny saying they'd retracted it. Then you keep the cycle going by saying "Okay now we're down to five months of Iraq spending. How about THIS earmark?" picking a popular earmark in a battleground state. And then when they fall over themselves saying that this is a good one too, they didn't mean that one, pull out another.

You could spend a week with them on the defensive--because in point of fact, these earmarks are usually defensible projects.

Keep in mind though that what Obama said today is right. They'd much rather have the next 30 days spent debating which earmarks are okay than talking about pretty much anything else.

Posted by: jayackroyd on September 10, 2008 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

The best ads will play to something people are already inclined to believe. Senile McCain, led around by special interests. Put together a sting of his confusions and the times he lost his bearings. McCain not as sharp as he used to be.

Posted by: Gaucho Politico on September 10, 2008 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

"Sarah Palin may be pretty. But Sarah Palin is a man-hating radical feminist. She thinks men who divorce their wives should be fired from their jobs. Indeed, she tried to fire her own brother-in-law, and fired another man who tried to block her from doing so. And if you criticize her, she'll scream that you're a sexist.

"Are you a man? Have you ever thought about divorce? Have you ever criticized a woman? Better not let Sarah Palin find out. Better not let her near the White House."

Posted by: Ryan on September 10, 2008 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

He stabs people who supported him in the back. Completely untrustworthy. Ditched his first wife who waited 5 1/2 years for him, signed a confession denouncing the US, etc.

Posted by: Th on September 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK

McCain loves war so much he wants to reinstate the draft so he can fight for Georgia.

McCain wants to destroy social security (true)

Run the clips!!! Why they haven't I don't know.

Send Obama's campaign a link to these suggestions!

Posted by: Cathy on September 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK

Like everybody else here, I keep thinking of TRUE things to use against McCain. That shows we're not up to the job.
Upon reflection, I'd put together a loop of all of John McCain's stumbles and scary little smiles. Salt it with his repeated blunders on fact: Czecholslovakia and Sunni/Shia to start with.
With the proper editing you could make the best orator in the world look like a fool. McCain would look like A drooling shuffler.
The tag?
"Old soldiers never die--they just fade away,"
And end with a 10% screen of the name John McCain, and another scary little laugh.

Posted by: pbg on September 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK

Easy one: bring up McCain's involvement in the tragic USS Forrestal fire. In fact, I am amazed that I haven't hardly seen it mentioned at all.

Posted by: SMurph on September 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK

I'd go after his honor-- mention his ex-wife's accident, the womanizing, the affair with Cindy, Keating 5, pushing the woman in the wheel chair, the scumbag ads he's been putting out, the campaign lies, his temper tantrums, playing the POW and gender cards, the whiner remarks, the bomb, bomb, bomb Iran song, the tearing down of others at the Repub convention . . . and I'd ask, "Is this honorable?" Maybe there would need to be some contrast to the false promises he's made about running an honorable campaign. Answer: "No, it's not honorable. It's reckless and self-centered. Some people call putting yourself above everyone else "Maverick" behavior. But the American people know better. they're sick of being played for fools" Or something like that. That's probably a bit long, but I'd hit the honor and maverick themes.

Posted by: Char on September 10, 2008 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

Steve Benen wrote: "We commiserated over the fact that Obama ... doesn't launch deceptive attacks of his own against the McCain campaign."

That's really stupid. I'm glad the Obama campaign doesn't stoop to deceptive attacks. Nor is there any need to do so. The truth about Palin-McCain is plenty damning enough.

To the extent that there is anything to "commiserate" over, it is that the Obama campaign is not hitting Palin-McCain aggressively enough with the truth. Obama and Biden are apparently too busy saying at every opportunity how much they respect McCain's "service" and respect Palin's "experience" to attack their numerous, glaring faults.

The greater problem, which Obama may be finally starting to talk about, is that the media playing field is decidedly not equal. The corporate-owned mass media enables, legitimizes and rationalizes the Republicans' brazen, sleazy, sickening, preposterous lies. But any Democrat who openly attacks either McCain or Palin with the truth will be greeted with howls of outrage, and the corporate-owned mass media will twist themselves in knots fabricating reasons why that Democrat is beyond the pale.

The fact is that the Palin-McCain campaign's barrage of bullshit is pathetic, and would be getting them nowhere without the active complicity and cooperation of the corporate-owned mass media.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on September 10, 2008 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

Obama obviously believes that the way you win matters. He's taking a risk and he knows it. But he's doing the right thing. The 'winning isn't everything, it's the only thing' attitude which the republicans embody has perverted our business, our sports and our politics. It's a sad comment on the state of our country that Rovian gutter politics may win again--- but if Obama and the Democrats were to win by using the same tactics, the country wouldn't get healthier, it would keep getting sicker.

Posted by: Pavor Numquam on September 10, 2008 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

"Songbird" McCain - I'd play that one 'till it dropped - it's on You Tube already - he sang to the Viet Cong

I'd run the 'So John McCain supports Paedophiles?' ad

I'd run his Adultery

I'd run a carefully crafted and *funny* shot of John McCain's nose growing steadily bigger - and drooping - and then his pants catching fire, with a voice over of all the recent lies he's told

and I'd play the 'Bomb, bomb Iran' till it dropped, along with Pitbull asking 'I mean, what does a VP do?' in her hockey-mom voice

Why in the name of all the little pixies is this NOT being done?

can someone either get this thread to Axelrod or to the Makers of 527s?

Posted by: Macha on September 10, 2008 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain wants to tell every woman in this country when and by whom they can have children.

John McCain wants to take away your Social Security. He believes that old people who aren't rich should starve and die. To John McCain, when you're old, you are on your own.

John McCain wants to make every road a toll road and wants every neighborhood park to charge admission.

John McCain thinks its a good idea if bridges collapse.

John McCain thinks it's okay if pharmeceutical companies give us pills that make women have deformed children.

John McCain wants to take away our right to sue powerful corporations when they poison our drinking water.

Wow! I'm starting to think I could work for Karl Rove.

Posted by: af on September 10, 2008 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain's followers are the dumbest Americans in the trailer park. For substantiation, show a 30-foot-high poster of that buffoon at the Convention, ecstatically waving the "Mavrick" sign. Underscore it with JRS JR's "rediculous" comment, above.

Posted by: Mark on September 10, 2008 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK

(clip of Cindy McCain at convention)

Cindy McCain's Convention Attire:

Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000–$25,000
Shoes, designer unknown: $600

Having American taxpayers fund her wardrobe:

(clip of McCain laughing)

Posted by: MissMudd on September 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

A judge in Troopergate referred to Palin as a "child molester". That should be on every TV commercial, and it has more basis than anything McCain has run, because this judge was serious.

Again, it comes down to the media. We saw how upset they got over the very accurate use of McCain's "100 Years" comment. That was true. We see how upset they are over McCain's charges of teaching children about sex before they can read. Why should McCain tell the truth? There's absolutely no consequence for doing so. Why should Obama lie? He's going to get accused of lying even when he tells the truth.

Here's why: the reason the Press wants to claim Obama is lying when he isn't is 1) as Joe Scarbrough said, McCain is more assertive and 2)because only Republicans lie, they have to say both lie to be even handed.

So, I guess, Obama has nothing to lose by pointing out Palin is a child molester. He's going to be called a liar anyway, so might as well actually get the benefit of lying (although, not really in this case). Right now it's all downside.

Posted by: Memekiller on September 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

Steve, a point that is being made repeatedly by commenters is that it is not necessary to stoop to deception in order to attack Palin-McCain. There are plenty of very real, very truthful things to attack them on, with regard to their policy proposals (and the lack thereof), their records in office, and their character. There is no need to distort or exaggerate anything. The truth is plenty bad enough.

And there is nothing dishonorable about attacking one's opponent with the truth. What's dishonorable about the Palin-McCain campaign is not that they are attacking Obama, it's that they are doing so with lies.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on September 10, 2008 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

[Trolling deleted. Your time running rampant on these threads is over. -Mod]

Posted by: orwell on September 10, 2008 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

"If the Republicans stop telling lies about us, we will stop telling the truth about them."

--Adlai Stevenson

I agree with commentors above -- if Obama's going to deploy the 527s, they should start telling the truth about McSame, starting with questions about his mental fitness / temper. The latter will resonate with his lickspittle media, who no doubt have seen it in action, even if they've agreed to keep it under wraps.

Posted by: Gregory on September 10, 2008 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK

How about "John McCain has illegitimate black babies"? It worked last time.

Posted by: robsalk on September 10, 2008 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain....

Will lead the way forward in alternative energy technologies by permitting everyone in obtaining permits for :

*(Trading Emission Permits To Find The Lowest-Cost Source Of Emission Reductions.

Permitting "Banking" And "Borrowing" Of Permits So That Emission Reductions May Be Accelerated Or Deferred To More Economically Efficient Periods.)

With these trading emission permits we can grow our economy towards a future where permits
become more important than actually really doing anything about reducing our dependency on carbon-based fuels.

John McCain: Leading the way towards a sustainable future and more economically efficient periods....

???? I took exact wording from the McCain website, Just what in the world is an..”economically efficient period.”???

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on September 10, 2008 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK

Try this on for size:
On July 29, 1967, the CVN Forrestal had a terrible fire, which claimed some 134 lives, with 70 wounded, and almost sank the ship.
It was caused when John McCain played a practical joke on the pilot behind him by pumping raw fuel into his engine, then igniting it, (called a wet start} causing a sheet of flame to blast out of his tailpipe. This “cooked off” a Zuni missile and sent it into McCain’s plane.
McCain scampered over the nose of his A-4, dropped to the flight deck, and escaped serious injury.
McCain was immediately transferred to the USS Oriskany, (Which had recently suffered a near disaster on Oct 26, 1966 when a sailor accidentally triggered an aircraft flare and threw it back into the flare locker in a panic.)
McCain was transferred by his father, the ranking Admiral in the Vietnam Theatre, who used his authority pull him off the Forrestal to protect him from the revenge of crewmembers that blamed him for the incident.

Posted by: gaston44 on September 10, 2008 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

OK Here goes:

McCain says Torture is OK as long it's administered by trained Evangelical Christians. He went on to say that if administered correctly not only would information be forthcoming but it would be sincere and truthful.

McCain says Palin Earmarks were requested in the name of God so they were not only legal but morally necessary to help her to be elected.

Posted by: Stevio on September 10, 2008 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

"John McCain doesn't want to protect your children from sexual predators." (Because he doesn't want the sex-ed for kindergartners, which was actually teaching them to be in control of their bodies and not allow adults to touch them just because they are adults.)

I also like DFA's ad with one of McCain's fellow POW's: https://democracyforamerica.com/contribution_pages/66-mccain-video

Posted by: Lukeness on September 10, 2008 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

Is it wise to piss off factcheck.org?

McCain-Palin Distorts Our Finding

Posted by: Slightly Left of Center on September 10, 2008 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

How about an ad with a series of clips of McCain forgetting things, or just losing his train of thought? Easy enough to find from hours of footage. Then just end with, "John McCain can no longer remember basic facts. How can we trust him with the presidency?" Or include some testimonials from doctors talking about the signs of Alzheimer's and end with, "John McCain: too old, just like his ideas."

Seriously, I think the Republicans would do a lot more of this kind of thing if the ages were reversed.

Posted by: Z on September 10, 2008 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

McCain would rather destroy a country than lose an election.

Posted by: mey on September 10, 2008 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

McCain wants to eliminate employer-based health insurance. oops, not a lie.

Posted by: sebastian on September 10, 2008 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK


Posted by: JRS Jr on September 10, 2008 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

Response to steve_m & John:

As steve_m said, Bush already - successfully - threw the kitchen sink at McCain. Here's a good factsheet to remind you (warning: Those who still possess a moral compass will taste bile in your mouth upon reading it and knowing Bush is still President).

Even worse? McCain hired Eskew, the guy who Bush hired to throw the sink!

Posted by: kiweagle on September 10, 2008 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINK

"McCain plans to cause hundreds of young women to die lonely and painful deaths" (because that's what the constitutional amendment banning abortion he has advocated would surely cause, by increasing back alley abortions.

Have to let Dem 527s run rampant. Can't let McCain run some of the dirtiest, most mendacious ads ever, and at the same time allow him to attack Obama as sexist, etc. Not this time.

Posted by: sh on September 10, 2008 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINK

Sedaris has a good take:

"In airing this ad, McCain has done something I never thought I would see: He has sponsored a new television commercial that effectively declares his support for child molestor rights.

I'm dead serious here: The ad explicitly criticizes Obama for supporting state legislation that the Kansas City Star notes was designed to give "schools the ability to warn young children about inappropriate touching and sexual predators."

So by basic logical deduction, then, McCain's ad attacking Obama for supporting that bill means McCain would have opposed it - meaning he would have taken the side of the Pedophilia Lobby that wants young children to not understand when they are being molested. I'm wondering - is there a NAMBLA endorsement in the works for McCain? The Arizona senator sure seems to be courting that interest group with this latest declaration."

Oh, and Palin hates America and wants to secede.

Posted by: Memekiller on September 10, 2008 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINK

He crashed 5 planes at tax payer expense, and to this day continues to refer to the poor farmers who saved his life as, "gooks."

A wasteful elitist. Writes itself.

Posted by: colin on September 10, 2008 at 3:47 PM | PERMALINK

I need to see a flip flop McCain ad. Or all of the "apologies" that he's given for his personal actions or votes. Someone has to be working on this right? We really need to show that McCain isn't as principled as he wants us to believe.

Posted by: flanders on September 10, 2008 at 3:47 PM | PERMALINK

Video: Dead American Soldiers bodies from Iraq, flag draped coffins
Audio: "John McCain has said that the draft is necessary to continue his senseless wars... Sarah Palin believes Iraq is a holy war. Protect you children... "

Posted by: Pat on September 10, 2008 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

What SMurph said, swiftboat = Forrestal. I bet there are some liberals who would love to sink McCain that were stationed there.

The POW confession needs to be out there with his support for torture. Either it's good or bad, but it can not be bad in '68 and good in '08. Get these clowns talking about everything we talked about for the campaign. Where is McCain on spying, Iran, torture, Constitution & Executive Power, Gitmo, and on and on.

Where are the Bush/McCain hugging pictures ?

For Palin, easy, what in the hell is the parent of a baby with downes syndrom and a child pregnant doing running away from her family and why is McCain helping her.

Posted by: on September 10, 2008 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

This is a recipe for disaster. So you are advocating politics by the lowest common denominator? You complain that McCain and company are lying like crazy and the solution is to also lie? Good grief. Steve I love your stuff, but this isnt the answer. This is what we are trying to get away from. The way to do it is to have everyone BUT Obama step up the outrage, and then step up the attack. First - if someone is going to lie like this, you have to honestly be upset and show it, and at the same time, call them out on the carpet. As in, when someone confronts John McCain right in his face, and says, you are a liar. A big fat digusting dishonorable liar, and have no business serving your country in any capacity any more. Stick the facts in his face and tell him to STFU! If they act like wusses, they will get treated like wusses, and they will spend all their time nicely trying to rebut the garbage. But any time you are nice, you automatically allow a thread of uncertainty, you let people think that McCain isnt lying. It's downright stupid and it's going to cost the Dems the easiest election they can ever expect to have. Where TF is Biden - he should be chewing John a new A-hole. And what did he do? During his speech he commends him...says he is a friend. F&*k that, we dont need friends like this. This shows you what is wrong with us...we think we should be friends with disgusting pieces of crap. Here's what you say. "I used to be friends with John McCain - and now, I dont even know who he is. John McCain is not my friend. And he isnt your friend. His friends are on his campaign staff - lobbyists. People like him...the wealthy, the out of touch, the shameful, and corrupt."

I cant stand watching the Dems self-destruct. I just hope they wake up...I beg them to wake up. Our country will become an international laughing stock if we elect McCain. Can't you see we are becoming a second rate country with nuclear weapons?

Damn, I told you years ago when this election was going to be run, we are going to be in the midst of an economic calamity. And no one listended then, and no one makes the case now that it will be WORSE under McCain.

Am I in some alternate universe or am I doomed to be made crazy by the disaster that is unfolding?

Posted by: Geoff on September 10, 2008 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain is more concerned about protecting child molesters than he is about your kids.....

John McCain said he'd run an honorable campaign. When his political survival was at stake, he willingly began spewing lies. First time????

John McCain likes to throw punches, but he can't take them. There's a name for that.... bully.

John McCain claims Barack Obama called Sarah Palin a pig. Here's what he really said (showing the real quote.)

And here's what he should have said: Sarah Palin is the lipstick. What does that make John McCain?

Posted by: Sid Schwab on September 10, 2008 at 3:53 PM | PERMALINK

Excellent ideas. George Soros? MoveOn? How about focus grouping this list and then going with the most effective?

Posted by: Peter on September 10, 2008 at 3:59 PM | PERMALINK

And then there's....

"John McCain doesn't believe in global warming. He can't afford to: Big Oil pays all his bills."

and then sit back and watch while he says he really DOES believe in global warming, it's just his co-Ticket that's running the show who doesn't

Posted by: Macha on September 10, 2008 at 4:00 PM | PERMALINK

Just run this:


Posted by: RalphF on September 10, 2008 at 4:01 PM | PERMALINK

What I'd like to see is an ad that shows a long string of obvious falsehoods, each getting more and more ridiculous, and build up to a "McCain kills puppies" kind of thing, and then abruptly cut to Obama saying, "No, of course none of these are true. But at least I can admit when we're lying to the american people." The blowback to this, of course would be "Obama admits to lying to the american people!" Dammit.

Posted by: paul on September 10, 2008 at 4:05 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain: bigamist. Point out that he married Cindy while he was still married to his crippled + hospitalized first wife. For bonus points, we could dredge up some file footage- or even current footage- of Carol expressing resentment for this.

John McCain: embezzler. Play up his membership in
The Keating Five.

John McCain: unfit to lead. Play back footage of colleague after colleague attesting to his hot temper.

John McCain: idiot. 4th from the bottom of his USNA class.

Sarah Palin: idiot. Play up her collegiate record of 5 colleges in 4 years. Bonus points if you can find any college classmates who can attest to her lack of brains.

Sarah Palin: religious extremist. Play convenient snippets of addresses she gave to her evangelical church in Wasilla. I've seen some of these; they'll also help w/the idiot angle.

This was just in less than 5 min. of thinking, and it's all 100% true, w/o even much exaggeration. I'm sure we could do 'better' with concerted effort. Plus, the facts make the attacks both visceral and accurate; something which can't be said of McCain's attacks on Obama.


Posted by: Zorro on September 10, 2008 at 4:05 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain and Sarah Palin had the chance to run a decent campaign, focused on the issues.
They said "Thanks, but no thanks."

John McCain used to be proud of his independence from the party. Then he buckled to pressure from the Republicans, and picked an obviously unqualified candidate, just to try to win. What happened to his independence? Maybe he put it on eBay.

I would hope this would be considered fair even by Democratic campaign standards (clearly fair under Republican standards. probably too fair even)

Posted by: EELawyer on September 10, 2008 at 4:07 PM | PERMALINK

I would have a man resembling McCain at a podium speaking to a small audience of all men. He whispers quietly the joke about Chelsea Clinton and Janet Reno, and the audience bursts out in mad laughter.

A joke the midwestern Hillary supporters would really appreciate.

Posted by: apmat on September 10, 2008 at 4:07 PM | PERMALINK

Uh, Buh-bye Orwell. Don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out.


Posted by: MissMudd on September 10, 2008 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

I like Praedor Atrebates' suggestion.

I've been VERY uncomfortable with our left wing swift boaters that say he "sang liek a canary".

Praedor uses McCain's own torture flip flop against him.
If it's acceptable to do these things, then his "betrayal" of our country is raw evil with which he should be happy to avoid execution, not just lose teh election.

I don't actually feel this way about any coerced cooperation he may have been forced to provide... but you asked if I were Republican what I would do...

That's the winner.

I feel unclean having even said it.

How do they sleep?
They make talk the talk, but they can't possibly believe in their own immortal souls.

Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on September 10, 2008 at 4:13 PM | PERMALINK

McCain sells heroin to schoolchildren.

Oops, sorry, that's off limits. How about his total lack of support for returning vets?

How about using his fellow POWs, who refuse to support him?

How about his marital history? Even Nancy Reagan is pissed at him about the way he treated his crippled wife, whom he cheated on and left.

How about pushing the lady in the wheelchair?

Posted by: sullijan on September 10, 2008 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK

I think a commercial of veterans reading off all the times he voted against funding veterans programs would do the trick.

Posted by: flounder on September 10, 2008 at 4:18 PM | PERMALINK

Call me crazy, but I don't think this election is lost. I don't think McCain's lying is going over particularly well with the media or the public. I think this is McCain's highwater mark. People are sick of this shit. So, the ad writes itself. Put the Republican play book on display. Remind them of will horton, the swiftboaters, all the old tricks, and simply respond. McCain is Bush. McCain lost his Maverick rebrand in about two day. Now the focus is on lies and the lying liars (even the lipstick bullshit). McCain is a liar. Palin is a liar. Its that simple.

Posted by: Scott F. on September 10, 2008 at 4:20 PM | PERMALINK

I wouldn't pursue the adultery angle. There are a lot of adulterers out there, and they vote. Some of them are even Democrats and independents.

Posted by: Wendy on September 10, 2008 at 4:22 PM | PERMALINK

McCain has said he wants to stay at war in Iraq 100 more years, and that we should go to war with Ira. He talks like he wants to go to war with Russia, too.
And he wants to draft our young people, even out of college, to build up the military forces to do it.

Basis: August 20 town hall meeting in which McCain took a question from a woman in the audience. Granted, she threw this dinger in at the very end of a long spiel.....but so what, it's there. The video is available. Here is the transcript excerpt:

QUESTIONER: If we don’t reenact the draft, I don’t think we’ll have anyone to chase Bin Laden to the gates of hell.


MCCAIN: Ma’am, let me say that I don’t disagree with anything you said.

Posted by: on September 10, 2008 at 4:28 PM | PERMALINK

Here's one that hasn't been mentioned yet. You know that McCain banner ad at the side of this site which says "invest in victory"? That's an awfully strange way of putting it. He could be implying that, y'know, he'll remember if you donated and do you a couple favors when he gets into office.... That, friends, is called soliciting a bribe.

Posted by: brainchild on September 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM | PERMALINK

I know a lot of these ideas are based in comedy, but the most apparent fact is that negative FACTS about McCain do not need to be fabricated, just exposed on a grand scale. I'm one of several people on here looking at the situation wondering what I can do to try and make any difference. Any ideas? Mass editorial letter writing campaigns to major newspapers/ magazines? does anyone even read those anymore?

Posted by: paul on September 10, 2008 at 4:33 PM | PERMALINK

How about this:

"John McCain -- we all know how he loves lobbyists and actually has seven top D.C. lobbyists running his campaign, but now he appears to be squarely in the pocket of the pedophile lobby.

"Senator McCain actually opposes legislation which would provide for educating our youngsters about the difference between good touches and bad touches to help protect them against pedophiles. Even Mitt Romney supports such legislation.

"John McCain -- pedophiles may love him, but he simply presents too big of a danger to our children to be president of the United States."

Posted by: Harold on September 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM | PERMALINK

McCain stated during the primary campaign that people who oppose the war in Iraq want the U.S. to surrender to al Qaeda.

McCain is a dishonest and dishonorable pig.

Posted by: CT on September 10, 2008 at 4:40 PM | PERMALINK

What about the video footage of the woman asking McCain what they could do to "beat the bitch" (referring to Hillary), with McCain yuking it up, and paraphrasing. Put it under teh heading Republican values.

Posted by: Scott F. on September 10, 2008 at 4:41 PM | PERMALINK

We have all had a dearly loved older family member who, as they advanced in age, started having trouble keeping all their mental oars in the water. At worst this can be manifested by violent mood swings or profound character changes, but it can also show up in many small ways. Maybe they just kept getting Sunni’s and Shiites confused. Or they can’t remember how many houses they own, but they can recall every detail of trips they took to Czechoslovakia or the Iraq-Pakistani border. It’s not personal, but for the good of the country (country first after all), John McCain needs to take a mental acuity test. It’s just common sense.

Posted by: fafner1 on September 10, 2008 at 4:45 PM | PERMALINK

I would just straight up lie. I would get several hundred hours of footage of him on Meet the Press, This Week, etc, and splice together a bunch of pauses and '...uh...'s and make it look like he's senile and can't answer a simple question. I'd pay some shiftless former Vietnam Vets to say things like "I served with John McCain...he's not the man he used to be...I think he's crazy in the head...unstable...he's really violent nowadays...he should be on medication." And pay some women to say he whored around with them while he was married.

The press seems to be unwilling to call a blatant lie a blatant lie, so why not?

Posted by: steve s on September 10, 2008 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK

"John McCain thinks women should always take a backseat to men". Hammer him with - "John McCain thinks women can't make decisions" (abortion), "John McCain thinks women don't deserve to make as much money as men" (equal pay), and then paint him picking Palin as her being around as eye candy or just to serve his needs, "John McCain thinks women like Sarah Palin can't speak for herself" (no press interviews, teleprompter speeches written by his campaign, etc.)

Of course if you wanted to be really ruthless like the GOP you'd get some crackpot Navy pilots to talk about how a. he was unfit at Annapolis, b. crashed his plain through incompetence, and c. broke like a little bitch to the Vietnamese.

Posted by: dwightkschrute on September 10, 2008 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain is a tough guy who picks on 14-year-old girls in front of a crowd.

I might not be good at this; that's not even a distortion. But it is an issue-free character attack.

Posted by: Chuck on September 10, 2008 at 4:53 PM | PERMALINK

Here's a fake add that passes the test:

John McCain supports pedophiles over children. He opposes programs that would teach children about behavior that is inappropriate for adults to engage in. He opposes protecting children from the predatory behavior of pedophiles. He'd rather leave it to the pedophiles to teach our kids about what's right and what's wrong. John McCain: Wrong for our kids. Wrong for America.

Posted by: t-dogg on September 10, 2008 at 4:56 PM | PERMALINK

Look you don't even need to lie, you just need to phrase the truth carefully and point out that when McCain denies the following two equivalencies -- well, we all know he's a liar.

McCain = Draft

McCain = privatizing Frannie = no more fixed rate mortgages
(i.e. just ARMs and shortterm loans)

Posted by: PissedOff on September 10, 2008 at 4:57 PM | PERMALINK

Showing how difficult it is to lie about a Republican, most of the above examples are actually true. What's wrong with McCain as Manchurian Candidate, brainwashed by the Vietnamese, and now the Bush Administration, to do their bidding?

Posted by: Memekiller on September 10, 2008 at 5:01 PM | PERMALINK

Where is Cheney?

He's over in Georgia Provocking World War III to engage Russia and instill fear in the American People so that McCain has a better shot at winning the presidency

Posted by: DA on September 10, 2008 at 5:03 PM | PERMALINK

I am with the others here that nothing in McCain's record needs to be fabricated, just exposed. I would make it about some policy differences instead of just personality issues, however.

On Iraq show footage of McCain surrounded by 100 troops and 5 helicopters and then declaring it was like shopping in America. *BUT* add to it that the next time he went back the military said it couldn't protect him this time and refused to let him go back to that market yet McCain said conditions were greatly improved.

Do another one on health care - what he gets versus his voting against and opposing health care for others. His votes against GI benefits fits in here.

Do another on the economy. What he says versus what he votes against.

Do another on energy and the environment - he is one of the Republican Senators letting energy saving tax credits expire by filibuster but instead supporting raising the profits of the oil companies.

There is a wealth of factual data with lots of video tape of McCain speaking.

Related is that McCain was voting against Bush 25% of the time when the America people supported him but now when Bush's ratings are in the toilet he is voting almost 95% with him this year. He is only a maverick against the people.

Posted by: Gary D on September 10, 2008 at 5:04 PM | PERMALINK

I'd go after McCain for causing the deadliest shipboard fire in U.S. Navy history by flashing his jet onboard the USS Forrestal and then avoiding the consequences, presumably because investigators knew his daddy was an admiral.

I'd say what the Right has already accused McCain of doing. He recorded pro-Vietnamese, anti-USA propaganda that was published and broadcast in Vietnam. There was probably a quid pro quo in McCain supporting normalized relations with Vietnam. The gov't of Vietnam would ensure those tapes and transcripts were not released until after McCain died.

Posted by: The Griffyn on September 10, 2008 at 5:16 PM | PERMALINK

Some of these are very entertaining, but I'm not sure the art of misleading is something I want to rehearse.

Posted by: Algernon on September 10, 2008 at 5:20 PM | PERMALINK

Is he really approving those messages? I mean really they have a recording of him saying I'm John McCain and I... but seriously isn't it well within the range of possibilities that he doesn't have the slightest idea what his ads look like.

He looks awful in his campaign appearances. He stands by his soul mate looking like he is a sixteen year old with a crush which is just creepy from. He is totally out of touch and he is being taken for a ride by the Republican party they knew he was a loser but they were stuck with him and now he is merely a prop.

Posted by: ogo on September 10, 2008 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK

ominous music
John McCain eats babies!!

During his time in Vietnam, his captors forced him to eat babies(picture of McCain as POW)...and even though he was freed over twenty years ago, he can't stop eating them. (pic of McCain in Senate with creepy smile)

Now he wants to eat our American babies! (pic of cute little baby)

If you can't trust John McCain with your baby, how could we trust him as President?

(ominous music stops and is replaced with upbeat theme)
I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message.

Posted by: Gridlock on September 10, 2008 at 5:22 PM | PERMALINK

If I were more Machiavellian (and didn't have relatives who were in the Navy during the Vietnam War), I would start airing an ad about that ties John McCain into the USS Forrestal accident that killed 134 men. Did he 'wet-fire' his jets and cause the aircraft behind him to fire it's zuni rocket? Official reports say a gust of wind removed a saftey pin -- perhaps a gust of wind from, say, a fired jet engine????

Posted by: JWK on September 10, 2008 at 5:24 PM | PERMALINK

Tie the POW experience to his lack of judgment. Make it a negative. Quote from the piece that his captors forced him to sign. They broke him. He has a notoriously short fuse. The two are related. He's confused about Sunni and Shia. The two are related. He was damaged by that experience, not strengthened by it. And now he's old.

If you really want to go after him (although it could backfire more easily) make the reprehensible claim that he signed that statement despite the fact that he wasn't even tortured. When the (righteous) howling comes from the right wing and others, simply point to the administration's position on "enhanced interrogation techniques", rendition, and the like. See, e.g., yoo and bybee. Let me make it clearer: by the Bush administration's definition, McCain was not tortured. That is a nasty piece of irony.

Posted by: Anonymous on September 10, 2008 at 5:29 PM | PERMALINK

Photoshop McCain and Palin in bed together... with lobbyists! Tag: "A lot can happen with so many people packed together in such a small bed."

Posted by: Keith Smith on September 10, 2008 at 5:29 PM | PERMALINK

Cartoon titled "Pillowtalk" McCain and Palin in bed whispering. Frame One: McCain "...Where's that marvelous ape?" Palin: "TeeHee." Frame two: Palin: "Back home in Alaska we'd make her pay for her rape kit, and force her to have the baby." McCain: "HoHo!"

Posted by: Keith Smith on September 10, 2008 at 5:39 PM | PERMALINK

A political science professor at Georgetown named Stephen Wayne studied the personalities of the presidential candidates and concluded that McCain's temperament is of real concern. Mr. Wayne stated that "[t]he anger is there," and that if McCain is the one to answer the phone at 3 a.m., "you worry about an initial emotive, less rational response."

The Arizona Republic: "it is time the rest of the nation learned about the John McCain we know in Arizona. There is also reason to seriously question whether he has the temperament, and the political approach and skills, we want in the next president of the United States."

Retired Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, formerly responsible for training the Iraqi military stated that "I think it is a little scary. I think this guy's first reactions are not necessarily the best reactions. I believe that he acts on impulse."

On the campaign trail in 1992 with his wife, Cindy commented on McCain’s hair loss by telling him "You're getting a little thin up there." In response, McCain got red and told her “at least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*#t." McCain's excuse, that it had been a long day, does not alleviate the concern given the number of long days he would have if elected president.

A spokesman for McCain's campaign said straight talking McCain would be unavailable for an interview on the subject of his temper.

McCain said in his memoir "My temper has often been both a matter of public speculation and personal concern …I have a temper, to state the obvious, which I have tried to control with varying degrees of success because it does not always serve my interest or the public's."

Former Budget Committee chairman Sen. Pete Domenici reportedly stated “I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.’”

Sen. Thad Cochran, R-Miss., has been reported as stating that "the thought of [McCain] being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."

Posted by: betterway on September 10, 2008 at 5:41 PM | PERMALINK

Here is a few:

- McCain is dying of cancer. (Portrays him as physically weak and decrepit.)
- McCain had a deal with Bush to support the Iraq invasion even though McCain knew ahead of time that there were no WMDs. McCain dropped his support when it because obvious that the US would not take permanent control of the Iraqi oil fields (ties to decision making in Iraqi war)
- McCain had an affair on his wife. (Implies affair while married to Cindy. Undercuts conservative support.)
- McCain admitted to killing civilians in Vietnam. His father and grandfather conspired to erase all evidence and record to protect their careers and reputations in the Navy. (Who doesn't love a good conspiracy theory.)
- McCain has made disparaging comments about Catholics and John Paul II immediately after JP II's death. (Divide and conquer.)
- Cindy McCain is a lesbian, or at least bi-sexual. (Tie into McCain's affair attack.)
- McCain has had ties to banking interests since the Keating 5 scandal. McCain personally benefited from the mortgage crisis through complex investment strategies hiding his interests which make the income look like Cindy's investments. (Ties McCain to personal hardships from housing crisis)
- McCain is secretly a Scientologist. (undercut religious support)
- Cindy McCain killed a man in a traffic accident. McCain conspired to cover up the death (confuses factual account with Laura Bush)
- McCain is a person friend of the Saudi Royal family and will protect their interests.

Posted by: WIDTAP on September 10, 2008 at 5:45 PM | PERMALINK

First off, I'd get Tony Blair in on this. The ex-British Prime Minister is the closest living, breathing thing to Rove and he might just be prepared to help the party of his old friend Bill C.

then I'd go for the jugular on:

Ten commandments -how many has J McC broken (adultery, coveting, lying, murder of however many innocent civilians while at war...)?

I'd hammer his PTSD and his medical record - UNFIT for Office, or simply UNFIT?

and 'He wants a war in Iran. His grandfather was 'bereft' when the second world war ended. He himself has said he only wants to be President for his own ambition, not for the country. Why then, does he want men and women to die for him?'

go for it

Posted by: Macha on September 10, 2008 at 5:47 PM | PERMALINK

...and remember: it's not a good lie unless it's a big lie and it's repeated often.

Posted by: WIDTAP on September 10, 2008 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

There is no need to lie or even exaggerate to make McCain look vile. I would start with McCain vs McCain videos documenting his flip flops *and* his assertions that they weren't flip flops. The JedReport http://www.jedreport.com/has the videos. The Obama campaign just has to put them on the air.

Also, McCain said either that social security has been a disgrace since it was set up or that he's been in the Senate 26 years without learning how it works (or both).

McCain clearly lied about Paxson trying to buy a TV station.

McCain helped someone buy land that was part of the Fort Ord reservation for virtually nothing. This person made 20 million in profits almost immediately.

I mean the stuff is on blogs. I'm sure everyone here can find it. The Obama campaign just has to pay to broadcast it.

I see no point in lying. We've got McCain down to law.

Posted by: on September 10, 2008 at 5:54 PM | PERMALINK

On the John McCain as adulturer front, wasn't he subject to have been court-martialed? He was on active duty at the time of the affair.... Maybe some innuendo that the fact that his father was an admiral protected him?

And how about something about how he didn't get his star? And that he left the navy a week after his father died?

Posted by: Marc in Denver on September 10, 2008 at 6:00 PM | PERMALINK

Recount the sordid history of the Keating 5 scandal in hard-hitting black-and-white ad, complete with ominous background music and funereal voiceover.

Posted by: Doofus on September 10, 2008 at 6:01 PM | PERMALINK

I'd go with a picture of a naval academy cadet reciting the honor code which all U S Military officers are taught and expected to follow throughout their careers: "I will not lie, cheat, or steal, nor tolerate those who do." (there have actually been cases of cadets being kicked out of the academy for tolerating the malfeasance of their peers.) Follow that up with a voice saying "that's the honor code John McCain learned long ago during his first days as a naval cadet. Too bad there's no honor code for candidates running for president."

Posted by: sparky on September 10, 2008 at 6:02 PM | PERMALINK

Here's one more:

Republicans: Selling the country to China
Line: Paulson bailed out Frannie at Chinese government's bidding and contrary to GWB's preferences.

Posted by: Pissed Off on September 10, 2008 at 6:13 PM | PERMALINK

Let's see, a scary lie to spread about McCain. How about:

"This August, McCain cancelled a speech and was rushed to the hospital. He underwent a battery of emergency tests before being released 9 hours later. The campaign and the hospital are now hushing it up, claiming that it was a routine physical. What aren't they telling us?"


Actually I've thought of a much worse one but I can't bring myself to post it, even in fun. I guess I wasn't cut out to be a political operative.

Posted by: Matt on September 10, 2008 at 6:25 PM | PERMALINK

I agree with everyone who would want to hammer away at McCain's first marriage. You could easily turn the old Maverick into and old Tramp. Nobody likes a tramp.

Posted by: Mick on September 10, 2008 at 6:42 PM | PERMALINK

60-ish Man: You know what I like about John McCain? He's such a maverick. He doesn't bow down to the Republican party. He stands up to George Bush.

His Wife: That's what I used to think. But have you heard him recently? He's no maverick. He's a chameleon who will say and do anything to win. And he’s hoping we don’t notice.

Man: No way. Remember in 2000, when the Republican smear machine in South Carolina spread lies about his young daughter? He called out Bush on that.

Woman: Yeah, well, did you know that just a few weeks ago, McCain hired onto his campaign the very same people that had dishonored his family. I guess if you can't beat, join them.

Man: What kind of man does that?! Uh, well, what about 2004, when he almost changed parties and ran as John Kerry's VP? That would have been a killer ticket. Two Vietnam war heroes.

Woman: McCain approached Kerry and Kerry was ready to go, but McCain blinked at the last second. He decided loyalty to the Republicans was more important. And later when they smeared a fellow veteran, McCain stayed quiet.

Man: Wow, that’s pretty low. Well, what about his maverick stance on immigration?

Woman: You mean the bill he helped write, but then said he wouldn't sign if he were president? Republicans didn't like it, so McCain backed down. He threw HIMSELF under the bus.

Man: Well, at least he opposed Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy. We're suffering, and we can't afford to give big tax cuts to the wealthy at our expense.

Woman: The chameleon changed his colors on that too. He's going to give massive tax cuts to the wealthy and leave scraps for us.

Man: Wait, isn't McCain worth 100 million dollars? How much is he going to gain at our expense?

Woman: He's going to come away with $300K in tax savings for himself, while we get $100 back for ourselves. Did you know that under Obama's plan, we would get back back almost $1000? But McCain he has the nerve to lie straight to our faces and say that Barack Obama will raise our taxes.

Man: How’s Obama going to pay for our tax cut?

Woman: He’ll tax John McCain and others like him. After all, McCain says that the fundamentals of our economy are strong. His economic adviser called us a nation of whiners. He can afford it.

Man: What happened to John McCain? He sold himself out this fast on so many issues? Just to win an election? Where’s the integrity? Where’s the honor? You're right, he is a chameleon. John McCain is not the man he used to be.

Woman: You said it. He thinks we’re fools. He thinks we don’t care about the issues. He thinks we'll trust someone that shameless with the presidency. No way, no how.

Posted by: Billy Boy on September 10, 2008 at 7:10 PM | PERMALINK

McCain wants to tap the phone of all Americans.

Posted by: tom on September 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM | PERMALINK

The funny thing is, looking back at that Dionne article, the lies seem so BENIGN!

Posted by: Gary on September 10, 2008 at 7:37 PM | PERMALINK

I would modify Pa's:

McCain denounced his country during time of war. At the time, he said that he did so under torture.

Nowadays, he agrees with Bush that the things done to him were NOT torture, just ways to get the truth in an interrogation.

So, McCain denounced his country without ever being tortured.

Posted by: John on September 10, 2008 at 7:44 PM | PERMALINK

My ad: Cindy McCain has known John McCain for 28 years and knows him better than anyone. Cindy McCain does not trust John with her $100 million. Why should the American people trust John McCain with our $13 trillion (or whatever it is now) economy?

Posted by: BC on September 10, 2008 at 7:48 PM | PERMALINK

I second the Bridget McCain idea, but in a different way, simply:

"Where's Bridget McCain? She was part of his family before..."

Show pictures of the family including her.

"Where's Bridget McCain now?"

Show pictures excluding her.

It works both ways--for the lizard-brain 30%, they'll think that the smears from 2000 were true.

Posted by: John on September 10, 2008 at 7:57 PM | PERMALINK

Wow, this is _SO EASY_.

McCain has a line in his stump speech where he says that he "can't wait to introduce Palin to all the lobbyists, pork-barrelers..." etc.

So he knows these guys?

This seems like a slam dunk to me. McCain can introduce Palin to all the bad guys, because he knows them.

At the very least it robs McCain of one of his stump cheer lines, like Obama already did with lipstick. McCain is pissed that Obama associated lipstick with pork, stole it from Palin. Cool.

Posted by: tomj on September 10, 2008 at 8:22 PM | PERMALINK

McCain sells heroin to schoolchildren.

Ah, we can do better than that. How about...

"there's no proof that McCain sells heroin to schoolchildren..." Then, let the magic of innuendo do its work.

If McCain wants to fight dirty, Obama should fight back. If they bring a knife, we bring a gun. Etc.

Sad commentary, no?

Posted by: Zorro on September 10, 2008 at 9:48 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain wants health insurance premiums paid by an employer to be considered taxable income for the recipient.

Posted by: Vadranor on September 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain says he has a plan to catch Osama bin laden -- but he isn't telling President Bush. That leaves all Americans vulnerable to a terrorist attack from Enemy #1.

Why won't John McCain help us get bin Laden, so America can be free of that terrorist threat?

Posted by: MarkH on September 10, 2008 at 10:39 PM | PERMALINK

"John McCain wants to be given command of the ship of state. But when he was in the Navy, no less than five Navy jets were destroyed with him at the controls (and he has been blamed for destroying one aircraft carrier in an incident that cost the lives of more than 130 of his fellow sailors). Is that the military experience that he claims qualifies him for the White House? Is that the kind of man we want in control of our future?

Posted by: Jim Hodges on September 10, 2008 at 11:35 PM | PERMALINK

"John McCain wants to be given command of the ship of state. But when he was in the Navy, no less than five Navy jets were destroyed with him at the controls (and he has been blamed for destroying one aircraft carrier in an incident that cost the lives of more than 130 of his fellow sailors). Is that the military experience that he claims qualifies him for the White House? Is that the kind of man we want in control of our future?

Posted by: Jim on September 10, 2008 at 11:35 PM | PERMALINK

"John McCain says he 'knows how to win wars' and he knows 'how to capture bin Laden.' But he hasn't told us his plan to do either yet and he won't tell us unless he's elected president. He is telling us that he won't help us win the war or capture bin Laden unless we vote for him. What he is telling each of us, in other words, is that he'd rather let America lose a war and let bin Laden remain free than lose an election. Is John McCain holding America hostage to his presidential ambitions?

That's not the kind of candidate America can believe in."

Posted by: Jim on September 10, 2008 at 11:47 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain has attacked Barack Obama for supporting legislation to teach school children about sexual predators. John McCain would rather support the actions of pedophiles than tell the truth about his opponent. John McCain: wrong for our children, wrong for America.

Posted by: thisniss on September 10, 2008 at 11:56 PM | PERMALINK

Actually cutting off aid to Israel would be a vote getter for most Americans.

I'll vote for whoever promises that.

Posted by: American on September 11, 2008 at 12:30 AM | PERMALINK

This one has the added value of actually being true (despite the right's numerous attempts to put up disinformation to "disprove" it):

John McCain killed 137 of his fellow sailors aboard the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and was personally responsible for putting a major Navy supercarrier out of action for nearly 2 years for repairs, at the height of the Vietnam War. He did more damage to the US Navy in 5 minutes than the North Vietnamese managed to do in ten years. And he did it with a "joke" - doing a "wet start" on his airplane that started the fire that led to the catastrophe.

And then, being the son and grandson of Admirals, he was the only unwounded guy on the carrier to be transferred that night to the USS "Oriskany," because if they hadn't, his fellow sailors would have thrown him overboard.

John McCain: a lifelong fuckup. Just like Little Georgie.

Posted by: TCinLA on September 11, 2008 at 1:10 AM | PERMALINK

(Ominous voice):

"While still married to his first wife (picture), who was disfigured in an auto accident, John McCain 'went out' with all these women (still shots, culminating in Cindy at the convention).

In 2006 (7?), while married to his second wife (still of Cindy at convention in blue), John McCain was 'so close' to this woman (still of Vicki Iseman. looking cute/sexy) that his own staff intervened.

John McCain: Not as honorable as you think.

Posted by: Wendell on September 11, 2008 at 4:48 AM | PERMALINK

This was a vastly satisfying revenge pr0n thread. I want to see every single one of these ads.


the Obama campaign is correct to keep to the high road. I just finished reading Bob Altmeyer'S book Authoritarianism, (http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/) and his prescription for solving the problem is wise. These kind of ads are going to pump us up, but they are not going to move the base which supports the republicans. It will move them into more isolation and fear, strengthening their dogmatism. To say we have to "heal the divide" sounds so wishywashy, but really, we're so f-ed at this point we have to de-program the deluded.

we have to ratchet down the fear. we have to decrease the isolation. we have to stop the xenophobia. Playing it cool and calm is the only way to break the back of the hot-heads.

I'm scared it wont work. But I want to destroy the mighty wurlitzer, not just win the election. I fear that we may not survive another 4 years, but I also worry that w/o dismantling the machine we'll be facing the same divide again.

Posted by: cp1919 on September 11, 2008 at 11:10 AM | PERMALINK

(Ominous voice)

Years ago John McCain was a hero.

But heroes wouldn't lie just to become President.

(Montage of newspaper stories)

America can't afford another liar in the White House.
(the hug)

Posted by: ftm50 on September 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK

John McCain, Dick Cheney and George Bush don't want to catch Osama bin Laden. They actually know where he is, but they are afraid that if they catch or kill him or Ayman al Zawahiri that the American people will stop supporting the wars that they want to continue. Alot of McCain/Bush/Cheney's friends are making alot of money off of these wars and those are the only interests that McCain/Bush/Cheney care about. You don't actually believe that the most powerful country in the world can't catch 2 people after 7 years do you?

Posted by: Patrick on September 11, 2008 at 11:55 AM | PERMALINK

"McCain likes dating strippers, cheated on his first wife (breaking his vow to God and his wife and cloaking himself in dishonor), calls his current wife a c*** in public, has called Chelsea Clinton ugly, and likes to make jokes about gorillas attacking women. That's not change we can believe in." FIN. End of women's vote.

In fact, one could push the used-to-date-strippers thing further. "John McCain actually encouraged his partner to accept money from other men in exchange for favors." That kind of thing.

Posted by: Slippery Pete on September 11, 2008 at 12:27 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain and Sarah Palin are adamantly opposed to abortion in the case of rape. They want you to raise your wife's rapist's child as your own.

Here's the question you have to ask yourself: will they require you to allow visitation rights for the child's biological father?

Posted by: hoipolloi on September 11, 2008 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

During his captivity in Vietnam, John McCain denounced the American war effort as illegal, unjust and criminal.

At one time John McCain said he made those statements under torture, but by his own admission his traitorous statements were made while under interrogation techniques McCain today champions as effective at getting to the truth: in this case, the truth about prisoner McCain's sympathy for the enemy of the United States.

Posted by: hoipolloi on September 11, 2008 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK

I would run an ad questioning his temperament and include information about the woman in a wheelchair on oxygen that he pushed. And about his wife whom he dumped. And about how he explodes in rage. He's a hothead in charge of the world. MAVERICK or MANIC?! That should be the chant.

Posted by: SethDove on September 11, 2008 at 9:17 PM | PERMALINK

I would run an ad questioning his temperament and include information about the woman in a wheelchair on oxygen that he pushed. And about his wife whom he dumped. And about how he explodes in rage. He's a hothead in charge of the world. MAVERICK or MANIC?! That should be the chant.

Posted by: SethDove on September 11, 2008 at 9:17 PM | PERMALINK

I would say...Five years ago, Republicans were afraid of the Liberal McCain... Today, Liberals are afraid of the same McCain. It just goes to show you the sad shape our country is in because of two party politics. I mean really look at both of their records. It just seems laughable to me (a god damn independent, for all you frat boys) that people are saying McCain would be another 4 years of Bush (please NO). But hey it's okay with me if you want to make our country as fabulous and corruption free as Philadelphia, Detroit, Washington DC, Chicago or San Fran. Unfortunately, I think we will all regret our choice in the end no matter who wins.

Posted by: on September 11, 2008 at 11:40 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain: Adulterer

Sarah Palin: Adulterer

McCain makes decisions impulsively, and we know what he was thinking when he tapped Palin. Cindy McCain was John's original "other woman", but she's over 50; she's over the hill. Have you seen the way McCain ogles Palin when she's on the stump and John's bringing up the rear?

If you thought the Clinton years and Lewinsky had a corrosive effect on negative values, image what will happen with TWO adulterers in the White House.

Posted by: on September 12, 2008 at 2:10 AM | PERMALINK

To those who note that Democrats take the high road, I am reminded of a line from the recent HBO miniseries, "Generation Kill", which I would paraphrase as "The meek will always be subjugated to those willing to use guns."

There does come a point where the lesser evil is to throw off a repressive (yes - there is voter suppression), dishonest ("Mission Accomplished"), ineffective ("Heck-of-a-job, Brownie") and deceitful ("Senator, I don't recall if I remember that.") governing party.

We call all agree that out Constitutional system gives us, the People, the ability to do this with methods short of revolution. The Democrats only need to decide if they will be the meek or will they bring out the rhetorical "guns".

Posted by: WIDTAP on September 12, 2008 at 9:07 AM | PERMALINK

If even ten of you would video tape your remark, post it to youtube with McCain for President and maybe truth about McCain and other tags like that you would get a lot of hits.

Posted by: amala on September 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM | PERMALINK



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