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September 12, 2008

OBAMA'S SLIGHTLY SHARPER TONE.... The New York Times reports today that the Obama campaign will "intensify" its "assault against Senator John McCain, with new television advertisements and more forceful attacks by the candidate and surrogates" beginning this morning.

And what might this sharper tone look like? The campaign released two new ads this morning, and a third is reportedly on the way before lunch.

The first characterizes McCain as being out of touch: "1982. John McCain goes to Washington. Things have changed in the last 26 years. But McCain hasn't. He admits he still doesn't know how to use a computer, can't send an email. Still doesn't understand the economy. And favors two hundred billion in new tax cuts for corporations, but almost nothing for the middle class. After one President who was out of touch, we just can't afford more of the same."

There's something of a risk with this spot, given that there are still some folks who can't use a computer or send emails, but the broader point has a strong political salience -- in a race about the past vs. the future, there's only one candidate with a vision for substantive change. This ad has the added advantage of subtly pointing to McCain as a long time Washington insider.

The second shows Obama talking directly to the camera, without background music: "We've heard a lot of talk about change this year. The question is, change to what? To me, change is a government that doesn't let banks and oil companies rip off the American people. Change is when we finally fix health care instead of just talking about it. Change is giving tax breaks to middle class families instead of companies that send jobs overseas. Change is a president who brings people together. I'm Barack Obama, and I approved this message because this year, change has to be more than a slogan."

In terms of the "edge," there's still an overwhelming difference in the competing tones of the two campaigns' messages. McCain is still using vile, pathologically dishonest attacks, and Obama is still pursuing honest criticism with a lighter touch. We'll see if that works.

Steve Benen 10:30 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (67)

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We'll see that the vile attacks work...again. Note to Obama, no one cares about changing the way Washington works. Lots of people care about changing who's working there.

Posted by: Mark on September 12, 2008 at 10:33 AM | PERMALINK

I hate the first ad, and I love the second.

Posted by: CJ on September 12, 2008 at 10:34 AM | PERMALINK

Steve, I've already seen the second one you mentioned here in Arizona, and thought it reasonably effective. Of course, being from Arizona, I already know what to expect from McClone, and it ain't pretty.

Posted by: azportsider on September 12, 2008 at 10:35 AM | PERMALINK

I think the first ad blows. Why not show the tape of McCain explaining how he doesn't know how to use a computer? Do most folks even know about this? To the uninitiated, I suspect the ad comes out of left field and therefore is just snotty and elitist. I like the second ad, because Obama is great at selling himself, and it takes a McCain charge ("change" as empty words) and throws it back at him. Nothing blockbuster, though. When will they start running ads that let McCain hang himself?

Posted by: NHCt on September 12, 2008 at 10:35 AM | PERMALINK

Please God let Obama's "lighter touch" work.

The "audacity" of Obama's "hope" was really a Lincoln-like faith in the intelligence and fair-mindedness of the American people that they would respond to appeals to the "better angels of their nature" instead of their primative hatreds. Sure, everyone likes someone that fights tough. What we may learn from this election is whether the American people will also give the edge to the candidate that fights fair.

Posted by: Ted Frier on September 12, 2008 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK

Sit back and enjoy.

Posted by: Bob M on September 12, 2008 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK

The second one was airing in the Cleveland, Ohio market this morning.

Posted by: Napoleon on September 12, 2008 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK

These ads are lame. Has Bob Shrum inserted himself into yet another Democratic campaign?

Let's see something creative and buzzworthy.

Posted by: lampwick on September 12, 2008 at 10:37 AM | PERMALINK

I agree: Nix the first one and put all the money on the second.

Posted by: Ted Frier on September 12, 2008 at 10:38 AM | PERMALINK

I think these sound pretty good to me. As I've argued for some time, McCain's handlers don't care if his ads backfire against him and hurt him more than Obama. All they care about is that President Obama enters office crippled and despised by a large segment of the population. They want him to look as muddy as possible and don't care if McCain looks even muddier, as they have little use for him after the election. He's never been more than a patsy to them.

And so Obama's ads look strong, but not dirty; and that's exactly what he needs. Sure, you don't bring a knife to a gunfight, but when the cops show-up after a gunfight, everyone with a gun gets arrested. It's good for Obama to fight strong, but without lowering himself to McCain's level. At the end of the day, Obama still needs to look dignified and presidential.

Posted by: Doctor Biobrain on September 12, 2008 at 10:39 AM | PERMALINK

I like both ads. THe first is a fun walk down memory lane (for some of us) just to realize that John McCain got stuck there.

The Democrats are working their way up to November skillfully.

What's that joke from the movie "Colors"? The bulls run down the hill to f**k one cow or walk down the hill to lf**k them all...

Posted by: amy on September 12, 2008 at 10:40 AM | PERMALINK

Every time Obama explains his political philosophy I'm amazed at how people can try and tar him with the "far left liberal" label.

He's so clearly a centrist...not that there's anything wrong with that :)

Posted by: neilt on September 12, 2008 at 10:43 AM | PERMALINK

I like both, but agree that the second is stronger--it provides a great contrast to McCain.

How do you argue with someone who's let out all the stops? Obama must provide contrast to McCain, not try to outshout him. Think of how calm and reasonable #2 will seem in comparison to one of the Repub's over-produced, over-the-top attacks.

Posted by: ceenik on September 12, 2008 at 10:46 AM | PERMALINK

I like the out of touch theme--but it needs to be more hard hitting and expanded beyond inability to email--as in how many homes he owns, the lavish amount of money Cindy spends on her clothes and statements that indicate our economy is fundamentally sound and the like..

The second ad is better, but I'm tired of the word Change. They need a new talking point.

Neither of these ads are hard-hitting enough in my view.

Posted by: on September 12, 2008 at 10:46 AM | PERMALINK

The series of campaign commercials I want to see is opening text "Maverick?" followed by 10 items from the flip-flop list scrolling up the screen at 2 and a half seconds each, with the Beatles "I'm Looking Through You" playing through the ad. Repeat 3 or 4 times to cover the best items on the list. It would be like trading cards, everyone has to see them all and debate which flip-flop they think is most egregious.


"I'm looking through you, where did you go
I thought I knew you, what did I know
You don't look different, but you have changed
I'm looking through you, you're not the same."

Posted by: Shalimar on September 12, 2008 at 10:47 AM | PERMALINK

forgot to add:

The religious right may be attracted to drama, conflict, and spleen, but I really don't think the larger electorate does.

Remember "Clinton fatigue"? I think "Republican fatigue" is a lot more real.

Posted by: ceenik on September 12, 2008 at 10:49 AM | PERMALINK

Steve Benen, in all the time I have been reading you, this is the first time you don't seem as, well, hopeful.

Were you hoping for Obama to go further? Could be a transition thing. It would be hard for Obama to become a McCain class asshole overnight.

Perhaps we as seeing the first stage of a subtle shift. Honestly, I hope so. The whole voter disenfranchisement thing is freaking me out.

Posted by: MsJoanne on September 12, 2008 at 10:50 AM | PERMALINK

i *LOVE* the first ad.

Posted by: mars on September 12, 2008 at 10:53 AM | PERMALINK

I've already seen the 2nd one here in northeast Ohio and twice this morning before I left for work I saw the ad that starts off showing a hopped-up McCain declaring "It’s over. It’s over for the special interests." Then we get pictures of Phil Gramm, Davis, Black, etc. and some verbage about their lobbying jobs. It ends with "If seven of McCain’s top advisers are lobbyists, who do you think will run his White House? John McCain. We just can’t afford more of the same."

During the Olympics I was seeing 4 McCain ads for every 1 Obama ad. Now it's reversed and needs to stay that way!

Posted by: 3reddogs on September 12, 2008 at 10:53 AM | PERMALINK

I guess I'm the only one who likes the first one better. It reduces McCain to a figure of fun (which is what Republicans always manage to do to Democrats, including Obama).

The second one is just earnest and eat-your-vegetables and boring. If it's effective at all, it serves as a brief moment of calm. But it's dull, dull, dull.

And not a word about the woman who's really the top of the GOP ticket.

Posted by: Steve M. on September 12, 2008 at 10:55 AM | PERMALINK

The second is much better than the first (the first is just weak) but I think Obama needs to hit McCain harder. Much harder. Especially in light of McCain's assertion at the Columbia forum that he had wished for a better tone to the campaign but it is all Obama's fault because he didn't agree to a series of joint Town Halls throughout the campaign season.

Posted by: DrDave on September 12, 2008 at 10:55 AM | PERMALINK

PLEASE! My 91 yr old MIL has been using a computer for about 8 years now.

And anyone who cant use a computer is most likely someone who never votes anyway or is already voting REP.

Judging from the emails that my MIL forwards, most elderly just LOVE the forward button!

Posted by: Lilybart on September 12, 2008 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK

"we'll see if that works"

it will not if the ad campaign is not accompanied by Obama and surrogates driving the media discourse vocally day in and day out: the media has made something of a turn with respect to the McCain campaign, finally treating it sceptically and even critically; now Obama et al. need to drive the point home inexorably and mercilessly

sheesh, this isn't rocket science ...

Posted by: sjw on September 12, 2008 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

The first ad doesn't work. Unless you explain to the average American why it's significant that McCain doesn't understand computers -- i.e. net neutrality, defending against cyber-attacks, data privacy -- then it just sounds elitist and petty.

The second ad is pretty good, but it mentions a theme that I would like to see Obama drop -- that he wants to "bring people together" and "work across the political aisle".

The Republicans in the Senate have done nothing except block anything the Democrats tried to do -- except for when they were giving Bush exactly what he wanted. Obama won't be able to work with these people. They don't care that they're hurting the country, as long as it works to their party's advantage.

If your house is burning, you don't stop and try to change the mind of the neighbor who insists that smoke and flames don't necessarily mean anything. You work around him and even shove him out of the way if you have to.

What I would prefer that Obama say is that the country has very real, very serious problems and that he will work with anyone who genuinely wants to help solve those problems.

Posted by: SteveT on September 12, 2008 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

Let's see something creative and buzzworthy.

Agreed. Neither of these snaps a whip at our attention spans.

Good grief, so much is at stake here, enlightened ad companies ought to be submitting their work pro bono. And the netroots ought to be given a vote on the submissions. And we ought to be given chance to directly fund certain ads in certain markets...

Alternatively: I should be able to click a button and fund the 527 ad of my choice.

That would be cutting edge sharp...
And that's where we should be right now.

Posted by: koreyel on September 12, 2008 at 10:59 AM | PERMALINK

Obama should stay positive, be specific (as you can in an ad) and let McCain wallow in the mud.

To which 527 we can can send our money? We should pick one and make a concerted effort to flood them with cash.

Posted by: msw on September 12, 2008 at 10:59 AM | PERMALINK

I don't mind Obama running low-key ads now that he's given 527s the go-ahead.

The new spots from Planned Parenthood and Defenders of Wildlife are just brutal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvpFUYTViLw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU

Posted by: douglasfactors on September 12, 2008 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK

[PUMA trolling deleted]

Posted by: Rachel on September 12, 2008 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

An issue-oriented campaign like Obama's is going to fail to resonate with many voters. Many people are reluctant to vote on the basis of issues, and choose to vote on the basis of (perceived) character - because the issues tend to be complicated, and can you trust a politician anyway to do what he says he's going to do?

We were so struck with the success of the Swift boating 4 years ago - but maybe we shouldn't be. So would it perhaps be best to go after McCain's perceived strengths? He is widely thought to be a man of honor. But his flip flops, and negative campaigning of late give the lie to this. Why not attack his character? For many people, perceived character IS the defining issue.

Posted by: Richard on September 12, 2008 at 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

I like both ads, but then again I like the message.

Why are they wasting money buying ad time in Arizona?

The good thing about the first one is that it turns the focus back to McCain and off the moose-huntress woman. The risk with the first one is that it will turn off older people, for whom 1982 doesn't seem so far in the past, esp in Florida where they're key. I'm hoping they eventually hit McCain, hard, on his saying Social Security is an "abomination".

I also agree with the commenter who suggested more images showing McCain is out of touch, like the houses or his party on the yacht with Anne Hathaway's grifter boyfriend. Be scurrillous, guys!! The great thing about McCain is, you can be plenty scurillous while also being completely accurate!!!

Posted by: Basilisc on September 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM | PERMALINK

The ads are fine all of Obama's ads have been fine, unoriginal, but fine. What he needs is a follow through move. The issue I have with his media campaign is he'll throw these out there and just let them float. What I'd like to see is a swarm of aggressive Dem surrogates out on EVERY news show this weekend attacking McCain. The official ads by Obama are cool and collected, the unofficial attacks by Obama's surrogates are fast and frenzied and unrelenting. He either needs to cash in some chits and get these surrogates organized and out there or they need to get off their butts and do it themselves if they want to win this thing,

Posted by: tom.a on September 12, 2008 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

You're right, Rachel. McCain and Palin would be so much better for women.

Posted by: Basilisc on September 12, 2008 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

"Sharp" needs 3 characteristics to be effective:
clarity, wit, and anger.


Posted by: Jeffrey Davis on September 12, 2008 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK

Why are they wasting money buying ad time in Arizona?

Because they have the money and because McCain is up for re-election in 2010 and he's not hugely popular in AZ.

Posted by: tom.a on September 12, 2008 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK

I tend to think that Obama has to get more visceral in his attacks on the Repliars. Time is afleeting and there are too darn many people in this country who are being bamboozled by the McCain/Palin lies, half lies and damn lies. As a start, here is a link to some things the campaign might do http://nahnopenotquite.com/2008/09/11/ground-rules-for-obama-and-democrats/
Might be a bit too much, but it is worth a try...after all, the Repliars have no trouble going that route.

Posted by: RogerNoVa on September 12, 2008 at 11:14 AM | PERMALINK

douglasfactors:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU

About damn time.
$150 for each severed foreleg?

Caribou Barbie really does fracture the body politic. Hunting wolves from the air? That's a fracture point that needs to be exploited. The only thing missing from the ad? An image of Palin in furs.

Posted by: koreyel on September 12, 2008 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK

The 1982 ad was great visually. I didn't listen to the sound, but what I saw was all the things which came into being in or around 1982: Rubik's cube, the personal computer, John McCain in office.

That was a long time ago! And McCain hasn't even bothered to learn how to use a computer or send email. It shows a persistent pattern of disinterest in change, along with his disinterest in getting out of Iraq, with helping the middle class, etc. The world advanced around him and he didn't notice or didn't care and can't be bothered.

Posted by: tomj on September 12, 2008 at 11:17 AM | PERMALINK

Hey did you know Charles Manson was a community organizer?

Posted by: Orwell on September 12, 2008 at 11:18 AM | PERMALINK

I'm meh on the first spot, love the second one. I like the one-on-one quality it has, and I agree with the overall strategy of a milder tone from Obama coupled with sharp attack from 527s. But those who pointed out the importance of follow-through are right. We *must* capitalize on the opportunity provided by the service forum and Palin's massive crash-and-burn interview.

Posted by: brainchild on September 12, 2008 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK

Just looked at the Planned Parenthood and Defenders of Wildlife ads...great! We need more of that kind of thing....maybe letting the 527's loose is what is needed.

Posted by: RogerNoVa on September 12, 2008 at 11:20 AM | PERMALINK

The ad language I'd like to see:

If mccain is
Such a threat
To dc politics
Why is the entire
GOP establishment
Supporting him?

Posted by: zoe kentucky on September 12, 2008 at 11:26 AM | PERMALINK

Both ads are fine. The first may score a few points with younger voters who are looking for a fresh face.
Frankly, though, how many lightbulbs go off and people respond with "Hey! That makes sense! I'm going to vote for him!" ? It's good that they're out there, but probably don't create too many votes.

Posted by: ML on September 12, 2008 at 11:27 AM | PERMALINK

I don't mind Obama running low-key ads now that he's given 527s the go-ahead.

Obama gave 527s the go-ahead? I didn't know that. If so, that's a smart move given the tone of the campaign.

Posted by: AK Liberal on September 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM | PERMALINK

I know some people want to see Obama attack McCain viciously. I feel that way myself sometimes. But his campaign is based on the idea that he is the grownup. There is only so far he can go without giving up the Adult moral high ground.

However, I think he could do better by going meta all over McCain's butt - pointing out in his ads just how much McCain's ads suck. Like I said yesterday, flashing back and forth between McCain calling for a clean, issues-based campaign and the actual campaign talking points and commercials would be a great ad. End with the tagline: "Why is McCain afraid to talk about the issues?"

Posted by: The Answer Is Green on September 12, 2008 at 11:30 AM | PERMALINK

Then follow it up with this:

John McCain
The Great Pretender

He's no maverickM
If he were then the gop would be acting worried, not excited. They know if he's elected that change is NOT coming.

Posted by: zoe kentucky on September 12, 2008 at 11:31 AM | PERMALINK

I agree the Planned parenthood and defenders of wildlife ads are very effective

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvpFUYTViLw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU

Posted by: Loyal Democrat on September 12, 2008 at 11:32 AM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: orwell on September 12, 2008 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK

@AK Liberal

Yes, I agree it's a good move. Even better (IMHO) was Obama bringing Bill Clinton on board yesterday. I'd *love* to see Bill stir things up here in his (and my) home state of AR.

Posted by: brainchild on September 12, 2008 at 11:37 AM | PERMALINK

I know some people want to see Obama attack McCain viciously. I feel that way myself sometimes. But his campaign is based on the idea that he is the grownup. There is only so far he can go without giving up the Adult moral high ground.

Let me get this straight.

Obama can vote for FISA because that is politcally necessary but he can't fight McCain because he needs to keep the "Adult moral high ground."

My, my, my.

Would that Democrats were more childish and less moral. And more concerned with actual results.


Posted by: Duncan Kinder on September 12, 2008 at 11:40 AM | PERMALINK

The first ad sucks, bigtime. Lots of people don't know how to use a computer or email. So what? I don't hate McCain because he's too old to play Sims--I hate him because he doesn't give a shit about working families and thinks nothing of starting wars to solve every little problem. Seriously, WTF?

The emotional, infuriating post further down about Drew Pooters--Obama could destroy McCain's pathetic little smear campaign by getting this guy out there, front and center, and saying that he's running for the Drew Pooters of this country. When will Obama get his head out of his ass?

Posted by: jeff on September 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM | PERMALINK

orwell, what is it you hope to accomplish by parading your stupidity? You aren't even rising to the level of being annoying. Is it pity you are after?

Posted by: SecularAnimist on September 12, 2008 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

I think Obama needs an ad that only states that Mccain thinks Social Security is an abomination. Bingo!

My 72 year old Mom is retired in Florida, dosn't use a computer, dosn't have cable TV, although she watches some of network TV.
Her SS check covers everything comfortably.

Being retired, she is unconcerned about the deficit(what's that), only mildly concerned about gas prices (fills up every two to three months), high unemployment is not on her radar. Life is good. Politics is boring.

However, when I mentioned that Mccain thinks Social Security is an abomination, she went beserk, yelling "How am I supposed to live! what are we going to do! Something has to be done about that crazy old fool!"

Posted by: GeorgiaGirl on September 12, 2008 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

The ad language I'd like to see:

If mccain is
Such a threat
To dc politics
Why is the entire
GOP establishment
Supporting him?

Exactly! Or save this nugget for the debates and ask McCain to respond.


Posted by: The Sandtress on September 12, 2008 at 11:48 AM | PERMALINK

Know what I love? The "Troll Barometer". I can tell right away when things aren't going well for the Republicans just by seeing how active the Trolls are on lefty blogs. Whenever things are looking down, you can be sure that they'll ramp up their presence with shrill talking points, faux Clinton outrage, and incendiary off-topic bait.

Judging from the levels today, it's clear they know that The Pander Monkey bombed last night.

Posted by: neilt on September 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM | PERMALINK

Duncan Kinder seems to miss the point. Democrats are interested in results for society, Republicans are interested solely in results for themselves.

Case in point, fostering a segement of the population to be fearful and spectacularly stupid, or supressing the vote. Both are successful in keeping the GOP in power, but leaves at least 95% of the population, including the vast majority of Republican voters, out in the cold.

They shout 'Ooga Booga' or 'Where da white women at?', Duncan soils himself in fear, and then votes against his own self interest. It is actually a spectacular achievement. In 7 years, we've shed 20% of all manufacturing jobs in the US and more than doubled our national debt - and that does not include the 5 billion or so we will be spending to bail out Phil G's vision of Fanny-Mac to protect China's investment.

If I asked Duncan, are you the sort who wants to sodomize your own grandkids? He would again soil himself in mock rage. But shout 'ooga booga' and he calls raping future generations success...

-jjf

Posted by: Fitz on September 12, 2008 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK

The new spots from Planned Parenthood and Defenders of Wildlife are just brutal.


The Defenders of Wildlife ad is very good; the Planned Parenthood ad is OUTSTANDING.

Posted by: on September 12, 2008 at 11:53 AM | PERMALINK

They'd do better to put this guy on the air:

http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859_1,00.html.dk

Posted by: Zak44 on September 12, 2008 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

In my view if they don't work then what is one to do? I do not want Obama to mirror McCain with lieing vile ads. Even if it means he loses. Even with the crappy MSM if the american people don't wisen up then as the saying goes "you can lead a horse to water...."

Posted by: Lew on September 12, 2008 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK

Judging from the levels [of Republican trolling] today, it's clear they know that The Pander Monkey bombed last night.

Word.

Posted by: Gregory on September 12, 2008 at 12:15 PM | PERMALINK

the second ad is by far obama's campaign has produced. he needs MUCH more stuff like that: direct and related to policies. i particularly like that he's using the term rip off to describe oil companies' and banks' actions. invoking a need for fairness is, in my opinion, a much stronger way to articulate your message than either appeals to self interest or appeals to help a vague subaltern population that no one seems to think they really belong to. keep this up! more like this! this is the way barack needs to communicate.

Posted by: dave fouser on September 12, 2008 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

"The risk with the first one is that it will turn off older people, for whom 1982 doesn't seem so far in the past."

I disagree. I got married in 1981, and while it used to seem like "just yesterday" about five years ago or so, it started to seem like "a long time ago." The visuals help us remember, too, just how long ago it was.

But that's beside what I think is the point. This is an ad aimed at Obama's base, youth, and I think it's effective in that regard.

I also think it WILL be effective with us "older folk" who DO use computers all the time and think "how can you even know what's going on without using a computer?"

Definitely agree that SOMEONE has to put his "Social Security is a disaster" clip on broadcast TV all over Florida day after day after day after day. Saturation bomb it into there during the day and early evening. But save your money after 9 pm. ;)

Posted by: A noun, a verb and POW. and now a pit bull with lipstick, too. on September 12, 2008 at 1:00 PM | PERMALINK

There are plenty of better ways to show how out of touch McCain is -- for instance, by using his own words from yesterday's national service symposium -- than by saying he doesn't know how to use a computer -- you know, like most senior citizens who make up the most reliable, highest-turnout demographic in the whole country. It sounded snarky and smrt-alecky.

Posted by: sullijan on September 12, 2008 at 1:27 PM | PERMALINK

Why haven't we seen an ad yet about McCain's plan to tax employee health care plans as regular income? Here is the headline: "McCain wants to raise your taxes." Any ideas from the Obama campaign on good visuals to go with this?

Posted by: Leslie on September 12, 2008 at 1:31 PM | PERMALINK

Eh. I still think he should have already released an ad re McCain voting against VAWA and Palin making rape victims pay for their own tests. 100% truthful, and hits them point blank at their new strength-women who might vote for McCain simply because Palin is "like me".
Oh, and throw in equal pay, include that in the same ad as well. The change thing is fine, but the MSM isn't going to discuss this for more than two seconds--as opposed to McCain's sleaze.

Posted by: Allan Snyder on September 12, 2008 at 1:34 PM | PERMALINK

Regarding the first ad: Don't most people assume the President has an administrative assistant to do all the computer stuff anyway? Isn't it a waste of taxpayer money to let the President near the computer? He might spend precious time commenting on blogs or responding to Nigerian scam artist's e-mails.

Posted by: devils advocate on September 12, 2008 at 1:42 PM | PERMALINK

SENATOR OBAMA, PLEASE GIVE AMERICA ~ A DOSE OF REALITY ON THIS US JUDICIAL INJUSTICE ??


WITH 80% OF THE BLACK AMERICAN VOTERS SAYING THEY SUPPORT SENATOR OBAMA IN THIS NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT IS ONLY FAIR FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW PRIOR BEING ELECTED THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW THIS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR TRULY FEELS ABOUT THIS AMERICAN JUDICIAL HORROR CONTINUING TO INFLICT GRAVE HARM ON THE BLACK AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE ??????

** SADLY THIS REPRESSIVE JUDICIAL INJUSTICE HAS BECOME AN AMERICAN ART FORM !!!

THE US SUPREME COURT GAVE ENEMY COMBATANTS FEDERAL APPEAL HC RIGHTS LAWYERS AND PROPER ACCESS TO US FEDERAL COURTS,AND POORER AMERICANS (MANY EVEN ON DEATH ROW) ARE DENIED PROPER FEDERAL APPEAL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO OUR US FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEAL, AND ROTTING IN AMERICAN PRISONS NATIONWIDE ?????????

**** INNOCENT AMERICANS ARE DENIED REAL HC RIGHTS WITH THEIR FEDERAL APPEALS ! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE $LOWLY FINDING OUT HOW EA$Y IT I$ FOR MIDDLE CLA$$ AND WORKING POOR AMERICAN$ TO FALL VICTIM TO OUR U$ MONETARY JUDICIAL $Y$TEM.

****WHEN THE US INNOCENT WERE ABANDONED BY THE GUILTY **** The prison experts have reported that there are 100,000 innocent Americans currently being falsely imprisoned along with the 2,300,000 total US prison population nationwide. Since our US Congress has never afforded poor prison inmates federal appeal legal counsel for their federal retrials,they have effectively closed the doors on these tens of thousands of innocent citizens ever being capable of possibly exonerating themselves to regain their freedom through being granted new retrials.

This same exact unjust situation was happening in our Southern States when poor and mostly uneducated Black Americans were being falsely imprisoned for endless decades without the needed educational skills to properly submit their own written federal trial appeals.

This devious and deceptive judicial process of making our poor and innocent prison inmates formulate and write their own federal appeal legal cases for possible retrials on their state criminal cases,is still in effect today even though everyone in our US judicial system knows that without proper legal representation, these tens of thousands of innocent prison inmates will be denied their rightful opportunities of ever being granted new trials from our federal appeal judges!!

Sadly, the true US *legal* Federal Appeal situation that occurs when any of our uneducated American prison inmates are forced to attempt to submit their own written Federal Appeals (from our prisons nationwide) without the assistance of proper legal counsel, is that they all are in reality being denied their legitimate rights for Habeas Corpus and will win any future Supreme Court Case concerning this injustice!

For our judicial system and our US Congressional Leaders Of The Free World to continue to pretend that this is a real and fair opportunity for our American Middle Class and Working Poor Citizens, only delays the very needed future change of Federal Financing of all these Federal appeals becoming a normal formula of Our American judicial system.

It was not so very long ago that Public Defenders became a Reality in this country.Prior that legal reality taking place, their were also some who thought giving anyone charged with a crime a free lawyer was a waste of taxpayers $$.

This FACADE and HORROR of our Federal Appeal proce$$ is not worthy of the Greatest Country In The World!

***GREAT SOCIETIES THAT DO NOT PROTECT EVEN THEIR INNOCENT, BECOME THE GUILTY!

A MUST READ ABOUT AMERICAN INJUSTICE:
1) YAHOO AND 2) GOOGLE MANNY GONZALES THE KID THAT EVERYONE FORGOT IN THE CA PRISON SYSTEM.
** A JUDICIAL RIDE OF ONES LIFE !

lawyersforpooramericans@yahoo.com

Posted by: DOUGLAS FIELD on September 12, 2008 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK

THOSE SUCK! THATS THE BEST WE CAN DO? FIRE THE PEOPLE THAT DID THAT EMAIL AD ASAP!

Posted by: God-help-us on September 12, 2008 at 7:38 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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