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September 13, 2008

ABOUT THAT IRAQ TRIP.... Shortly after Sarah Palin was added to the Republican ticket, a reporter inquired about Palin's foreign travel. A Palin aide said the governor had visited Ireland. That turned out to be false; a plane she was on merely refueled there.

That was kind of embarrassing, but this is considerably worse. (via Atrios)

Sarah Palin's visit to Iraq in 2007 consisted of a brief stop at a border crossing between Iraq and Kuwait, the vice presidential candidate's campaign said yesterday, in the second official revision of her only trip outside North America.

Following her selection last month as John McCain's running mate, aides said Palin had traveled to Ireland, Germany, Kuwait, and Iraq to meet with members of the Alaska National Guard. During that trip she was said to have visited a "military outpost" inside Iraq. The campaign has since repeated that Palin's foreign travel included an excursion into the Iraq battle zone.

But in response to queries about the details of her trip, campaign aides and National Guard officials in Alaska said by telephone yesterday that she did not venture beyond the Kuwait-Iraq border when she visited Khabari Alawazem Crossing, also known as "K-Crossing," on July 25, 2007.

First, the list of things Palin hasn't told the truth about seems to be growing at quite a clip.

Second, it wasn't too terribly long ago that McCain mocked Barack Obama's qualifications for national office by saying he hadn't spent enough time in Iraq. Indeed, McCain and his surrogates suggested, more than once, that if Obama really cared about the troops and U.S. national security, he would have spent even more time on the ground there.

I guess that's another inoperative talking point.

Steve Benen 11:22 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (36)
 
Comments

Well who cares about this story, only you smarmy liberals in the media who are trying to smear a decent, honest, christian mother!

She's pro-life and shoots guns, yeee ha, that's good enough for my vote!

Posted by: Average Wingnut Voter on September 13, 2008 at 11:27 AM | PERMALINK

She called it "the trip of a lifetime!".

How long was it, exactly? I've seen mention of two days. If that's true, think about it. Two. Days. Does that include flights to and from Alaska? Did they even spend the night in Germany or Kuwait?

Posted by: kvenlander on September 13, 2008 at 11:34 AM | PERMALINK

Steve, Please cease with the Sarah Palin stories. I and so many others already know she's tainted and untried. Let's get back to the candidate who matters - the lying Dishonorable Senator John McCain. Thank you, Kevo

Posted by: Kevo on September 13, 2008 at 11:35 AM | PERMALINK

Having their talking points thoroughly debunked does nothing to make the points inoperative.

Posted by: Georgette Orwell on September 13, 2008 at 11:37 AM | PERMALINK

Where is Biden?

He says he has been a friend of John for decades! Hmmm!

Posted by: gregor on September 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM | PERMALINK

She probably saw a semi-automatic rifle and said, "In Alaska we use those for squirrel hunting."

Posted by: Danp on September 13, 2008 at 11:42 AM | PERMALINK

I'm real sorry about Palin and her Iraq trip but the best way to get ahead when you have been on a loosing streak ( as the Democrats have been ) is to change the subject.

So forget Palin.

We have a story - a big story: the Lehman Brothers collapse:

Obama should get out on front of this. I he doesn't - liberals should do it for him.

This means a solution. Not b.s. about how much we "care" about this "issue" or what wonderful people we are because we - unlike the evil Republicans - oppose golden parachutes for the evil CEO's. What is our nuts-and-bolts, hands on, credible, effective solution. Now.

{Presumeably our solution will actually stick it to the CEO's. But first and foremost, it must be a solution. And it is notabout what swell people we are - it's about how everyone actually benefits - even hicks from small towns. )

The latest, according to Forbes

Lehman's Lost Weekend
Maurna Desmond and Lisa LaMotta 09.12.08, 6:20 PM ET

Lehman Brothers Holdings is likely spending its final hours as an independent company, but while its future seems assuredly bleak, the manner of its exit is holding investors in thrall.

A week after the U.S. Treasury took financial responsibility for its former mortgage progeny Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and half a year after the Federal Reserve engineered the rescue of rival brokerage Bear Stearns, the question roiling the markets is whether Washington will put taxpayer money at risk to guarantee a deal. The alternative would be to let Lehman swim or sink on its own, the latter outcome carrying the risk of a global financial crisis if the firm couldn't settle its debts and set off a cascade of defaults.

http://snipurl.com/3q1mj

Posted by: Duncan Kinder on September 13, 2008 at 11:43 AM | PERMALINK

Where is Biden?
He says he has been a friend of John for decades! Hmmm!
Posted by: gregor

CNN reported: On Wednesday, Palin's staff told the press corps traveling with the governor her plane had become too heavy, and asked for volunteers to fly commercial.

There's plenty of room on Biden's plane. At one point this week, only six reporters climbed aboard. But they got one thing the press traveling with Palin didn't: access to the candidate.

The political press corps has turned into all paparazzi all the time.

Posted by: Dale on September 13, 2008 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

The View did the best job interviewing McCain anyone has done.

The LA Times blog Top of the Ticket is just repeating RNC talking points these days, quoting Krauthammer and Jonah Goldberg
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/obama-ad-email.html

That's Just What I Said

Posted by: Dale on September 13, 2008 at 11:48 AM | PERMALINK

Too bad they're not going to give the media a chance to ask any questions about all of the lies. I just can't get over the audacity of such a liar bragging about herself at the Republican Convention and then launching vicious and condescending attacks on Barack Obama. It's shocking, really.

Posted by: Mary on September 13, 2008 at 11:49 AM | PERMALINK

Steve,

It's time that you compile of list of McCain/Palin lies much like the list of McCain flip-flops that you have already put together.

Posted by: handle the truth on September 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK

The Culture of Corruption continues and the Culture of Prevarication tells it to scoot over so it can have a little more room.

From a profile in the 9/15/2008 New Yorker on Cindy McCain:

Then she, (McCain), told another favorite story: she was twenty-four when she met John McCain at that cocktail party in Honolulu, but she told him that she was twenty-seven. McCain claimed to be thirty-seven; he was in fact forty-two. Cindy McCain giggled as she explained that they did not fess up until their marriage announcement was published in the local newspaper. "We started our marriage on a tissue of lies," she said with a smile, as the audience laughed.

Is that a big deal? No. Is McBush's whole life a tissue of lies? Yes. That should be the title of his definitive biography.

McWhatever, My Life as a Tissue of Lies.

It's pretty amazing how perfect a fit Palin is for their lying lifestyle.

Posted by: burro on September 13, 2008 at 11:52 AM | PERMALINK

Palin sounds like an overachieving high school student trying to pump up her resume to get into a good college, or a recent college grad bs-ing her way through to get a good job by inflating her resume beyond all reasonableness.

Posted by: Amanda in San Jose on September 13, 2008 at 11:53 AM | PERMALINK

With Sarah Palin, it seems McCain has found the distraction he needed to get people to turn their attention away from the GOP's dismal record on the economy, the environment, the war on Iraq, well, everything.

Posted by: Lew Scannon on September 13, 2008 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

The Pentagon had to warn Palin about electioneering when she dragged the press to her son's deployment ceremony and used a teleprompter to tell the troops that they were going to Iraq to fight the people who attacked us on 9/11 and that it was a "righteous" cause.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ivuvKc3uiNpFam1KWP4uTkEUe_PgD934Q04O0

Posted by: Mary on September 13, 2008 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

When the Obama campaign runs against Sarah Palin, they lose automatically. Because it ignores McCain, it ignores the issues, it makes the campaign about personality, and it's wasting peoples time arguing whether Palin banned books or some other detail that many voters consider petty. By focusing on pettyPalin issues the campaign becomes just that.

It really doesn't matter whether Palin is over her head or out of her league to most voters. Bush was a governor, Cheney had plenty of Washington experience. The problem was their ideology, is their ideology. And McCain/Palin share that ideology (and may be the true believers). Obama is quite correct to campaign on the McSame theme. The question really isn't whether the Republican ticket is putting lipstick on a pig, it's whether the voters are going to look at it and say it's a pig, or give it a soul kiss. If Dems focus on who is more qualified to lead the country based on resume, they lose.

Posted by: coldhotel on September 13, 2008 at 12:01 PM | PERMALINK

"With Sarah Palin, it seems McCain has found the distraction he needed to get people to turn their attention away from the GOP's dismal record on the economy, the environment, the war on Iraq, well, everything."

But the distraction is quickly becoming a liability. She not getting any of the good or enthusiastic coverage she initially did. Now its a constant stream of exposed lies and her shockingly unqualifications. She's becoming a freak show more than a sensation.

The rabid conservative base will still be enamored, but I don't think she has staying power beyond that. She actually highlights McCain's own weakness. He's out there defending her lies on a daily basis...and its distracted HIS campaign. He has lost control to his runningmate. He's going to have a hard time wrestling it back from her. His sleazy, negative tactics are already being pretty harshly commented on by a wide spectrum as well.

Posted by: Saint Zak on September 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK

Steve, you need to keep a list of lies, just like the list of flip flops.

Posted by: debrazza on September 13, 2008 at 12:05 PM | PERMALINK

Our press has done a poor job reporting about all the lying, but it isn't like the Obama campaign cannot do something about it. Just have Biden say that Palin is unfit to serve in government because of her serial lying and give a list of examples. That will be big news and make her lying important story.

Most people do not like politicians lying to them. They want leaders who not only are honest, but who are willing to condem dishonesty rather than accept it.

Posted by: david1234 on September 13, 2008 at 12:09 PM | PERMALINK

It is frustrating to see how the liberal blogosphere is so off message.

The message should be: McCain is Bush times two. If you thought Bush was bad, wait until you have McCain.

Instead, the blogosphere is wasting its time talking about the V-P candidate. Obama is running against McCain, not Palin.

Posted by: a on September 13, 2008 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK

What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?

And what if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating

class?

What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said 'I do'

to? And what if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife while she was recovering from a horrible car accident, and had cheated on her prior to leaving her?

What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain

killers, but acquired them illegally by stealing them from a charity?

What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

What if Obama was the one who was a member of the 'Keating 5'?

What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election

numbers would be as close as they are?

WE need to focus on McCain and Palin. It's not an either/or situation.

Posted by: OptiMysticalCynic on September 13, 2008 at 12:16 PM | PERMALINK

But but but!!! Her plane refueled in Ireland! That makes her an expert on international relations AND energy policy!

Posted by: JoeW on September 13, 2008 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

Without Sarah Palin, John McCain is helpless. As long as all the cameras are focused on her, attention must be paid by those on the side of righteousness. Smack McCain around, yes, but keep Palin right there with him since their fortunes are tied so tightly together.

Fortunately, she's doing a great job self-destructing her own candidacy. Every word that comes out of her mouth in any objective setting shows that she is just an ordinary housewife with enormous ambitions but no talents at all.

Keep in mind that even as mayor of little Wasilla, they had to hire an administrator to actually run the town because she'd made such a hash of it. Not a very inspiring resume, is it?

Posted by: Curmudgeon on September 13, 2008 at 12:37 PM | PERMALINK

LOL! This reminds me of the commercial where some guy 'seems to be' an expert, and when asked about it, he admits: "No, but I spent a night at the Holiday Inn".
So... she travelled overseas and spent part of a day on the ground of some foreign country - and that makes her an expert on that country and on foreign policy.

McBush and MoosePalin: Your stretching of the truth will soon prove to become your noose!

Posted by: on September 13, 2008 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK

Why isn't somebody out there compiling a list of all their lies and documenting them on YouTube? If I had a video camera, I would be sooo on it!

This is what the Obama campaign should encourage, since they did not want any of the 527 working for them.

Oh, and McShame just hired ANOTHER lobyist for his team... "CHANGE for Washington" : Yeah, right! MORE CORRUPTION THAN EVER SEEN - *THAT* is the change he will bring to Washington!

Posted by: on September 13, 2008 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK

Does this mean the right wing now has to STFU about Hillary Clinton's exaggerations about her trip to Bosnia. At least Clinton actually WENT there and didn't just refuel.

Posted by: Mnemosyne on September 13, 2008 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

It doesn't matter, this is a pointless argument. You and I understand, but the American people think of Kuwait as the same as Iraq.....Call them liars every single day over and over and over.

I know I said it before, but get some balls Barack!!!

Posted by: stlouisguy on September 13, 2008 at 2:34 PM | PERMALINK

If I were Barack Obama, I wouldn't visit Iraq just now either. It would be too good an opportunity for the McCain campaign to have him "accidentally" killed by "the enemy". Think they wouldn't do it? John McCain provides daily support for the allegation that he would do anything to be president.

Posted by: Mark on September 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM | PERMALINK

Does this mean the right wing now has to STFU about Hillary Clinton's exaggerations about her trip to Bosnia. At least Clinton actually WENT there and didn't just refuel.

No, it does not because Hilary is a Democrat, whereas Sarah Palin's pro-life, pro-gun beliefs allow her to absorb minor experiences and transform them into powerful policy insights at a rate 1000x more than liberals. A liberal, for example, would have to live in Russia for ten years, speak fluent Russian, be appointed ambassador to Moscow and cultivate contacts and friendships with dozens, if not hundreds of Russian leaders, government officials and journalists to gain just a fraction of the knowledge of Russian-American relations someone like Palin can have just living in a state whose territory includes a minor, uninhabited island which is close enough to be visible to Russia when it's not foggy.

Hope this clears things up.

Posted by: jonas on September 13, 2008 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

"A Palin aide said the governor had visited Ireland. That turned out to be false; a plane she was on merely refueled there."

Many years ago, on a flight to Europe, we refueled in Gander, Newfoundland. But at least on that trip we got out on the tarmack to stretch our legs. Can't recall ever bragging about visiting Newfoundland, though.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr on September 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM | PERMALINK

"I guess that's another inoperative talking point."

Probably not.

Posted by: jack fate on September 13, 2008 at 9:17 PM | PERMALINK

During that trip she was said to have visited a "military outpost" inside Iraq.
Silly lefties. SP was being truthful. Some people in Iraq believed that Kuwait is part of Iraq. A war was fought over this difference of opinion. Huh ... this argument doesn't make sense?


Posted by: Bill Arnold on September 13, 2008 at 9:56 PM | PERMALINK

You know, I'm embarrassed to admit it, but sometimes when I'm asked the countries I've been to in Europe, I've mentioned Austria, because our train went through there one night. I got off the train and smoked a cigarette in the station at a break, then got back on, but that's the extent of it. I exchanged a lot of Czech money for deutschmarks on that train ride through Austria, but again, that's it.

Now, in casual bar conversation, I include Austria as I run down the tally, just one more name as it goes along.

However, were I ever giving an official tally, say in a job interview with the State Department or for a travel agency or any other kind of low-level crap job of the kind I'm qualified for, I'd never actually mention Austria. Because it'd be dishonest to do so, and because someone might ask me, "So what's Austria like?"

What's Palin's deal? Didn't she think anyone would ever check? Hasn't she realized by this point that people would?

As someone pointed out about her lack of understanding of the Bush Doctrine, her very inability to guess that someone might, as they say, "fact check her ass," goes to demonstrate her complete lack of curiosity even about how the political process works. She's just never paid any attention to it at all.

Posted by: The Critic on September 13, 2008 at 11:18 PM | PERMALINK

Critic, I cannot understand why these two people don't seem to realize that just about everything they say is taped and beamed around the world. Do they think there's no record, or that no one remembers? McCain may be technologically obtuse, but puhleeeeze.

Posted by: Georgette Orwell on September 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM | PERMALINK

Can Tina Fey play Sarah Palin for the next 16+ years? Like, 24 hours a day? I think that she might have more foreign policy experience...and the imitation is uncanny.

Posted by: Cindy McCant on September 14, 2008 at 1:01 AM | PERMALINK

Interesting that Christians approve of a person who cheats and lies.

Posted by: Jim on September 14, 2008 at 12:28 PM | PERMALINK




 

 
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