September 14, 2008
PALIN AND BOOK BANNING, REDUX.... I've been following the story about Sarah Palin's book-banning efforts pretty closely, and noticed that the New York Times profile on Palin's governing style had some additional insights on the subject.
For years, social conservatives [in Wasilla] had pressed the library director to remove books they considered immoral.
"People would bring books back censored," recalled former Mayor John Stein, Ms. Palin's predecessor. "Pages would get marked up or torn out."
Witnesses and contemporary news accounts say Ms. Palin asked the librarian about removing books from the shelves. The McCain-Palin presidential campaign says Ms. Palin never advocated censorship.
But in 1995, Ms. Palin, then a city councilwoman, told colleagues that she had noticed the book "Daddy's Roommate" on the shelves and that it did not belong there, according to Ms. Chase and Mr. Stein. Ms. Chase read the book, which helps children understand homosexuality, and said it was inoffensive; she suggested that Ms. Palin read it.
"Sarah said she didn't need to read that stuff," Ms. Chase said. "It was disturbing that someone would be willing to remove a book from the library and she didn't even read it."
"I'm still proud of Sarah," she added, "but she scares the bejeebers out of me."
The line from the McCain campaign has been that Palin never had any interest whatsoever in banning library books. Palin herself has described this as "an old wives' tale." The evidence to the contrary is pretty overwhelming.
—Steve Benen 8:50 AM
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Fear and Hate '08 !
Posted by: GOP on September 14, 2008 at 8:57 AM | PERMALINK
Sarah believes in welfare for her buds. The rest of us are screwed.
Posted by: Ron Byers on September 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM | PERMALINK
Lie Number 968. Can we have a party or something when we reach 1000?
Posted by: sjw on September 14, 2008 at 9:05 AM | PERMALINK
Someone, anyone, please... address the "5 Colleges In 6 Years" thing. This is bizarre. Who does that? For the life of me I can't imagine what the reasons could be. Trying to imagine the most benign explanation possible, the only think I can come up with is that she was doing very badly academically. Surely, it can't be this difficult to figure out what happened. Liberal blogs should at least start pushing the media to ask the McCain campaign (they'll initially refuse, then lie, and when someone investigates, this can become another negative issue for them).
I know this country hates intellectuals. But surely, the fact that Obama was academically brilliant and both McCain and Palin academically challenged, must have some resonance if it's handled properly. Even the anti-elitists will be hard pressed to make a case for academic failure (although they'll try, I'm sure.)
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Posted by: Aris on September 14, 2008 at 9:09 AM | PERMALINK
Why is it that "Conservatives" who claim to be about "Family values" and Christianity seem to be, more often than not, the most intolerant, hate-filled, lying bigots, while Liberals, who are painted (by the radical right) as being one step short of Satan himself, are generally friendly, accepting of others, and inclusive?
Obviously I'm not saying all conservatives are like that, any more than all liberals are. There are bad liberals, just as there are good conservatives. I know some fine, gentle conservatives, but would you really want your daughter to marry one?
Posted by: Blaidd Drwg on September 14, 2008 at 9:10 AM | PERMALINK
Sure. The endless stream of words can mean anything, depending on where you insert the punctuation.
God, but she would be a disaster in national office.
Posted by: on September 14, 2008 at 9:12 AM | PERMALINK
McCain/Palin are nothing but liars. Dangerous liars, but still liars.
Posted by: paul on September 14, 2008 at 9:15 AM | PERMALINK
Well, if she really wanted to put things straight and do everyone a good turn she could start off banning The Bible. That would remove a whole load of perverse, confusing bunkum from disturbing and corrupting the minds of otherwise normal, innocent citizens.
Posted by: Goldilocks on September 14, 2008 at 9:15 AM | PERMALINK
Maggie Thatcher she ain't!
Someone, anyone, please... address the "5 Colleges In 6 Years" thing
There's 5 colleges in Wasilla???
Posted by: MissMudd on September 14, 2008 at 9:18 AM | PERMALINK
According to WaPo, she not only had issues with books, she wanted to prevent changing the laws that would change closing hours for bars from 5AM to 2AM. But she was for legislation that would allow people to bring guns into banks and bars. On 20/20 she said she opposed banning semi-automatic rifles because she's a hunter. Does anyone know what animals you hunt with these guns?
Posted by: Danp on September 14, 2008 at 9:22 AM | PERMALINK
"5 colleges in 6 years"
let me--I teach at a university--try a hypothesis: I know the type. I've had such individuals in my office. This is the student who has an overly high sense of his/her abilities; the reality is we're talking "B minus/C"-level work and modest intelligence. Respectably articulate but not a very good writer. Doesn't read much. When one professor gives such a student a (deserved) mediocre or lousy grade, the student blames the professor, says the professor is unfair, and then flits to another professor to try again, the hope being that this person will recognize his/her real genius. Sometimes such a student is such a pain in the ass that professors and administrators will simply pass that student in order to get him/her "out of here" (they often threaten to go to the board, the president, a lawyer). So maybe this is Palin's m.o. I would like to see the NYT follow up on this issue. Would be interesting.
Posted by: sjw on September 14, 2008 at 9:26 AM | PERMALINK
do everyone a good turn she could start off banning The Bible
I'm in the mood to burn a few of those. Maybe I can be Vice President of Hades?
Posted by: MissMudd on September 14, 2008 at 9:27 AM | PERMALINK
Someone, anyone, please... address the "5 Colleges In 6 Years" thing.
Oh. My. God. This woman is a worse train wreck than I had imagined. She alternated between (private) four-year and two-year colleges before eventually landing a BA.
Hawaii Pacific University (4yr) [1 sem.]
North Idaho College (2yr) [2 sem.] general studies
University of Idaho (4yr) [2 sem.] journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College (2yr) [1 sem.]
University of Idaho (4yr) [3 sem.] B.A. journalism
There could be financial or family reasons for all the moving around. But it might have been other factors, and if you were hiring this person, you would ask. I mean, you would want to know, wouldn't you? Before putting her forward as a potential Commander in Chief of the US armed forces worldwide? And stuff? But Rove's people apparently never followed up with Idaho U, or if they did, and they're not telling.
This is ridiculous. It's like the Magic Christian, but with Karl Rove instead of Grand Guy Grand, and votes instead of dollars.
Posted by: Jassalasca Jape on September 14, 2008 at 9:58 AM | PERMALINK
sjw, your explanation strikes me as highly probable. Knowing what I know about Palin from the Gibson interview -- lack of reflection and self-awareness but supreme self-confidence based merely on mastery of generalities -- I can just see her do exactly as you described. I do hope someone finds out.
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Posted by: Aris on September 14, 2008 at 10:05 AM | PERMALINK
What is wrong with folks who must diffuse their PUNCH with some comment like "I'm still proud of Sarah..."...or Biden/Obama's "McCain has done his country proud..." or some such nonsense...??? WTF???
Posted by: Dancer on September 14, 2008 at 10:12 AM | PERMALINK
What's wrong with them? They're DEMOCRATS, that's what's wrong. Same party that's done squat to oppose, or even expose, Bush's crimes since taking control of Congress in 2006.
Posted by: Steve LaBonne on September 14, 2008 at 10:18 AM | PERMALINK
two more observations regarding the "5 colleges in 6 years" thing that are based on my experience as a university professor:
1. plagiarism is something that one might be on the lookout for
2. GPA: I bet it's not so hot
Posted by: sjw on September 14, 2008 at 10:19 AM | PERMALINK
It scares the bejesus out of me that someone could know what Palin did and still say "I'm still proud of Sarah." Isn't this the same sort of disconnect that leads people who think Bush is terrible to continue to vote for him?
Those assclowns deserve their own level of hell.
Posted by: anon on September 14, 2008 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK
It's ok to ban conservative talk radio and shout down conservatives but books about homosexuality NEED to be where little kids have access to them.
That's logical?
Let's stop being partisans first and common sense people second.
Posted by: Stephen Wallace on September 14, 2008 at 11:45 AM | PERMALINK
Stephen Wallace wrote: "It's ok to ban conservative talk radio and shout down conservatives ..."
Oh, it's the Religion of Poor Pitiful Conservative Victimhood again, as embodied in the Gospel According To Rush Limbaugh.
Yes, it is SO unfair that the fake, phony, corporate-sponsored, focus-group-tested pseudo-ideology of "conservatism" has no voice in the media. What with being banned from the radio, and cable TV news, and all.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on September 14, 2008 at 12:39 PM | PERMALINK
Stephen prefers ignorance to knowledge, for himself and others. Must be why he's a fan of Rush.
Posted by: delagar on September 14, 2008 at 12:51 PM | PERMALINK
On 20/20 she said she opposed banning semi-automatic rifles because she's a hunter. Does anyone know what animals you hunt with these guns?
Posted by: Danp
Basically, the same that you would hunt with a bolt-action or single action rifle. It's based on the preference of the hunter.
As for me, it's not the way the rifle's action works. Semi autos have been around for over a hundred years, but for the most part, were only designed to have a magazine that held 5 to 10 rounds.
Semi autos started to become a problem when gunmakers commercialized military firearms (mainly based on the M-16, AK series, as well as other brands), which while were still only semi auto, were designed to take large capacity (20-30 round) magazines, or even larger (75-100 round) drums, that you could switch out in a matter of seconds.
From my own experience in the Army, you can fire off a thirty-round magazine in an M-16 in about 15-20 seconds, just in the semi-auto mode.
So what my question has always been not why do people need semi-autos, but why do they need military-based rifles with large capacity magazines?
Posted by: 2Manchu on September 14, 2008 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK
As a retired children's librarian I'm all too aware of people just like Sarah Palin. I can also say that librarians clearly understand what it means to be asked the "rhetorical" questions regarding banning books. They are intimidation tactics to see how far they can push before you push back.
The people who want to ban books are self righteous know-it-alls. They are not content controlling what gets read in their own homes, they want to control what everyone else reads as well.
Do not be fooled.
Posted by: gyma on September 14, 2008 at 1:29 PM | PERMALINK
On 20/20 she said she opposed banning semi-automatic rifles because she's a hunter. Does anyone know what animals you hunt with these guns?
Rudolph the red nosed reindeer?
Posted by: mg56 on September 14, 2008 at 1:36 PM | PERMALINK
As an HR Manager for a large company (total employees = half the population of Alaska), I can assure you that a candidate for a position with our company would be closely grilled were they to present a resume with Palin's education history. Verifying educational history is a defacto part of an employment background check. Should it not be so for a person applying for the second most powerful job in the country?
Posted by: Lori on September 14, 2008 at 1:37 PM | PERMALINK
2Manchu wrote:
So what my question has always been not why do people need semi-autos, but why do they need military-based rifles with large capacity magazines?
Protection against those black UN helicopters.
"People would bring books back censored," recalled former Mayor John Stein, Ms. Palin's predecessor. "Pages would get marked up or torn out."
They were charged the cost of a new book for that, right? And if they didn't pay, their library cards were cancelled, right?
Posted by: josef on September 14, 2008 at 6:18 PM | PERMALINK
And "an old wives' tale" sounds sort of sexist.
Posted by: Ross Best on September 14, 2008 at 10:41 PM | PERMALINK