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September 24, 2008
By: Hilzoy

Quick! Hide Sarah Palin!

CNN:

"McCain supporter Sen. Lindsey Graham tells CNN the McCain campaign is proposing to the Presidential Debate Commission and the Obama camp that if there's no bailout deal by Friday, the first presidential debate should take the place of the VP debate, currently scheduled for next Thursday, October 2 in St. Louis.

In this scenario, the vice presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin would be rescheduled for a date yet to be determined, and take place in Oxford, Mississippi, currently slated to be the site of the first presidential faceoff this Friday."

Like Kevin Drum, I had been saying "ha ha, I suppose they'll try to reschedule the first Presidential debate for October 2nd", as a joke. Silly me, and silly Kevin, to think that the McCain campaign would manage not to make that ludicrous unforced error. I think I know why, though: after her interview with Katie Couric, they surely cannot want Sarah Palin to have one more moment of unscripted TV time than is absolutely necessary.

For the most part, people have focussed on the part where Sarah Palin cannot come up with specific examples of McCain favoring regulation. (Note to Sarah Palin: boxing. I'd mention McCain's attempt to regulate tobacco, but since he's flip-flopped on that one, best not to bring it up.) But I was also struck by this bit from the interview:

"COURIC: Would you support a moratorium on foreclosures to help average Americans keep their homes?

PALIN: That's something that John McCain and I have both been discussing whether that is part of the solution or not ... you know, it's going to be a multifaceted solution that has to be found here.

COURIC: So you haven't decided whether you'll support it or not?

PALIN: I have not.

COURIC: What are the pros and cons of it, do you think?

[Translation: OK, you don't want to commit. But do you have the slightest idea what the salient considerations are?]

"PALIN: Well, some decisions that have been made poorly should not be rewarded, of course.

COURIC: By consumers, you're saying?

PALIN: Consumers and those who were predator lenders also. That's, you know, that has to be considered also. But again, it's got to be a comprehensive long-term solution found for this problem that America is facing today. As I say, we are getting into crisis mode here."

[Translation: Not a clue. But whatever the solution is, it ought to be comprehensive and long-term. Such a relief to know she doesn't actually favor temporary solutions that do not address the entire problem. Had she had more time, no doubt she would have come out for solutions that are judicious, well-designed, effective and (of course) bipartisan. And I'll bet she doesn't think people should play politics with this issue either. Call me psychic.]

Sarah Palin has been described as a quick study. But she has been surrounded by briefers for nearly three weeks, and she's still completely unable to string together an intelligent thought on the mortgage crisis. Would a moratorium on foreclosures keep people in their homes, or would it make banks even less likely to make mortgage loans, while driving them closer to insolvency? Is this sort of heavy-handed government interference in the market a desperate measure called for by desperate times, or is it more like Robert Mugabe's efforts to stop inflation by banning price increases? (I probably shouldn't wonder whether Sarah Palin knows who Mugabe is...) It would be nice if the running mate of one of the oldest candidates for President ever had some ideas about these issues. Since she's been prepping constantly, it's pretty alarming that she doesn't.

I served with quick studies. I knew quick studies. Quick studies were a friend of mine. Sarah Palin: you're no quick study.

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Thank you Hilzoy, for your last paragraph! It's so clearly obvious that, first Palin has no clue, and second, she cannot learn this fast. "Postpone" the VP debate! Sure, just make sure it's rescheduled for November 5.

Posted by: Margaret on September 24, 2008 at 9:44 PM | PERMALINK

I hate to say it but Palin is a B-tard. (that's a combo of the B-word and the re-word.) I almost feel sorry for her. Almost.

That's Just What I Said

Posted by: Dale on September 24, 2008 at 9:45 PM | PERMALINK

Well, the real President, the guy who is still President, just announced that the market meltdown is beginning to contaminate those closest to him and he needs the two candidates to come and counsel him. A fitting historical moment for this still President, in his most garish makeup for the occasion, and also a moment to pause and reflect at what a governor from a large state can do to a nation with two presidential terms, however aqcuired.

Posted by: Capt Kirk on September 24, 2008 at 9:46 PM | PERMALINK

Even if she was a quick study, look at the crap they're trying to teach her.

Posted by: Dale on September 24, 2008 at 9:47 PM | PERMALINK

sarah palin showed again in her interview with katie couric that she knows nothng. the first time she amply demonstrated this was in the second broadcast of her sitdown interview with charlie gibson.
the geniuses on the main street media apparently missed that one.
you know the one on which the wire services lead was that she thought obama was regretting not choosing hillary as his runningmate. she said nothing in that interview. just cliches and brief answers to hide her total ignorance. palin is nothing more than A SCREECHING PIT BULL WITH LIPSTICK. let her go back where she came from and keep trying to find russia from her livingroom window.

Posted by: samg on September 24, 2008 at 9:48 PM | PERMALINK

After seeing a small part of the Palin interview it was obvious why McCain decided to squirm out of the debates.

I still wonder: why not just have the VP debate on Friday, on national security, or on whatever?

The host stands to lose $5.5 million, and many people will be pissed off.

I think Obama should just put out a statement that he and Biden will show up. If Palin comes, she can go against Biden, otherwise hold the regular debate.

Posted by: tomj on September 24, 2008 at 9:48 PM | PERMALINK

sarah palin showed again in her interview with katie couric that she knows nothng. the first time she amply demonstrated this was in the second broadcast of her sitdown interview with charlie gibson.
the geniuses on the main street media apparently missed that one.
you know the one on which the wire services lead was that she thought obama was regretting not choosing hillary as his runningmate. she said nothing in that interview. just cliches and brief answers to hide her total ignorance. palin is nothing more than A SCREECHING PIT BULL WITH LIPSTICK. let her go back where she came from and keep trying to find russia from her livingroom window.

Posted by: samg on September 24, 2008 at 9:48 PM | PERMALINK

I've not seen much of any evidence that Palin has a keen intellect. Zero. She is at best a con artist, and not a very good one at that.

Posted by: Jake on September 24, 2008 at 9:51 PM | PERMALINK

the real President

Al Gore ?

needs the two candidates to come and counsel him

Oh, you're talking about W. That's no President; that's the Preznit, the usurper, the never-squarely-elected pretender to the office.

Never to fogive. Never to forget.

Posted by: joel hanes on September 24, 2008 at 9:52 PM | PERMALINK

It's not clear which crisis is bigger for the Republicans, the economic one or their polling free-fall. Either way, secretiveness is not the way to project leadership. Is cancelling campaigns, debates and interviews something a real leader like Roosevelt would have done?

Republicans are acting like they're afraid if McCain stays on the road he will get tagged as the candidate from the party that caused the recession. They're trying to re-brand him as Mr. Bipartisancrisissolver. Bring him back to DC, meet with the president, have some photo ops with McCain sitting behind a large table rubbing his chin, trying to look wise as Secretary Paulson explains what a shitty job he did on behalf of the President these last two years.

It's all theater for these Republicans, acting, no wisdom, no leadership, no expertise. They're good at hiding what they don't know, which is a lot. Yessir, lot's of hiding going on.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on September 24, 2008 at 9:52 PM | PERMALINK

"Would a moratorium on foreclosures keep people in their homes, or would it make banks even less likely to make mortgage loans, while driving them closer to insolvency? Is this sort of heavy-handed government interference in the market a desperate measure called for by desperate times, or is it more like Robert Mugabe's efforts to stop inflation by banning price increases?"

None of that is covered in the Cliff Notes for VPOTUS/POTUS.

Posted by: John Henry on September 24, 2008 at 9:53 PM | PERMALINK

Moratorium?

In what respect, Charlie?

Posted by: mantooth on September 24, 2008 at 9:53 PM | PERMALINK

But, but, but the teleprompter

Posted by: klyde on September 24, 2008 at 10:00 PM | PERMALINK

Jeebus she is vapid.

Is it lack of brains or prideful, willful ignorance ala Shrub, who is still one cunning SOB.

I was assuming the latter, but after hearing that interview, I think calling Palin a tabula rasa would be an understatement. There's no slate to write on.

Posted by: lobbygow on September 24, 2008 at 10:01 PM | PERMALINK

She very well may be smart. But it takes a different level of smart to practice deception to the breadth and depth that the Republicans operatives are used to.

Posted by: JWK on September 24, 2008 at 10:03 PM | PERMALINK

Repeat as necessary: "We're leaders! We're ready and eager to lead! We're mavericks! We're dynamic! We've got experience! We're deciders! I'm cute and perky!"

Posted by: Speed on September 24, 2008 at 10:07 PM | PERMALINK

Kinda reminds me of that Monty Python skit about a kiddie show called "How to Do It":

ALAN: Well, last week we showed you how to become a gynaecologist. And this week on 'How to do it' we're going to show you how to play the flute, how to split an atom, how to construct a box girder bridge, how to irrigate the Sahara Desert and make vast new areas of land cultivatable, but first, here's Jackie to tell you all how to rid the world of all known diseases.
JACKIE: Hello, Alan.
ALAN: Hello, Jackie.
JACKIE: Well, first of all become a doctor and discover a marvellous cure for something, and then, when the medical profession really starts to take notice of you, you can jolly well tell them what to do and make sure they get everything right so there'll never be any diseases ever again.
ALAN: Thanks, Jackie. Great idea. How to play the flute. (picking up a flute) Well here we are. You blow there and you move your fingers up and down here.
NOEL: Great, great, Alan. Well, next week we'll be showing you how black and white people can live together in peace and harmony, and Alan will be over in Moscow showing us how to reconcile the Russians and the Chinese. So, until next week, cheerio.
ALAN: Bye.
JACKIE: Bye.

Posted by: DrBB on September 24, 2008 at 10:12 PM | PERMALINK

She has no idea. It's also a clue that she had no frame of reference before she started learning the new stuff. If she, maybe, read some newspapers and knew some of the stuff before hand she could have added the new info and then faked it pretty well. It's almost painful to watch but she obviously had no idea on any of this, domestic nor international, when McCain picked her.

Posted by: buckyblue on September 24, 2008 at 10:18 PM | PERMALINK

But she has been surrounded by briefers for nearly three weeks...

GIGO.


Posted by: koreyel on September 24, 2008 at 10:18 PM | PERMALINK

Just goes to show that if you smile and show off your pearly whites in between stringing incomprehensible republican talking points together into an undecipherable twaddle you'll still fool less of the people less of the time. At least Katie Couric didn't totally fall for it this time and pressed for answers that weren't there. I'm torn between wanting Palin/McCain to continue to show themselves unprepared and scared by opting out of the debates or wanting to see Obama/Biden totally squash them.

Posted by: ringrid on September 24, 2008 at 10:22 PM | PERMALINK

koreyel beat me to the GIGO comment.

Dangit.

Posted by: charlotte on September 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM | PERMALINK

This is truly embarrassing. This person would be shunned at any serious discussion around the water cooler. If she were my wife I couldn't take her out anywhere because I would be afraid she would open her mouth. This is a governor of one of the United States? Maybe Alaska should think seriously about that independence thing.

Posted by: couser on September 24, 2008 at 10:33 PM | PERMALINK

She simply does not possess the intellect, interest, compassion, wisdom, common sense, curiosity, background, humility or civility to hold public office. Alaska should recall or impeach her. Wasilla should demand its money back. Those who counseled John McCain to ask her to withdraw were absolutely correct. If McCain is a fumbling and deceitful campaigner, she is more dangerous--she is a blight on this nation's political process. This is who the GOP pulled out to become the first woman ever on their Vice Presidential ticket? She is an apologist for glass ceilings. She is a mother with no maternal sense. She doesn't even support fair pay or women's rights. She is a resume religionist. She is Malaprop without wit. She needs to exit the stage. Surely she must understand that?

Posted by: Sparko on September 24, 2008 at 10:40 PM | PERMALINK

I'm thinking McCain might want to suspend his "cam-pain" indefinitely.

Posted by: effluviantOne on September 24, 2008 at 10:40 PM | PERMALINK

You know it's bad when Palin manages to make Katie Couric -- Katie Couric! -- look like Mike Wallace in his prime on "60 Minutes."

Posted by: Mnemosyne on September 24, 2008 at 10:48 PM | PERMALINK

If McCain NEEDS to be in DC, why doesn't he send Palin as a stand-in for him at the debate? She is, after-all, supposed to be ready to take his place.

Posted by: J from Wpg on September 24, 2008 at 10:49 PM | PERMALINK

I wonder if it wouldn't make more sense to take that $700 billion and put it into a jobs program, specifically green jobs to help resolve our energy "crisis," and infrastructure. Putting people back to work would help the economy a hell of a lot more than dumping more dollars on Wall Street. They've already thrown $350 billion at four companies, with no resolution. What makes them think another $700B would do the trick? We could wind up with over a trillion dollars of taxpayer dollars blown away with absolutely no positive results, except a momentary uptick in the market.

Posted by: impeachcheneythenbush on September 24, 2008 at 10:59 PM | PERMALINK

I didn't have time to read all the posts, but did anybody else notice that McCain stated on national TV that he was suspending all campaign donations and that he was encouraging Obama to do the same.

How magnanimous of him. He's accepting public funding and is not allowed to accept campaign donations. But he wants Obama to suspend campaign donations.

I'd have a higher regard, if McCain had said that he would instruct the RNC and the McCain/Palin victory fund to donate ALL the money raised to date towards helping struggling families.

Yeah... that's going to happen.

Posted by: bruno on September 24, 2008 at 11:05 PM | PERMALINK

I'm with impeachcheneyandbush. I want to know where the money went and why. The stock market tends to bet on other countries. They pissed away billions of dollars--somehow--and we are going to "stabilize" them. It's like giving an alcoholic a case of Scotch to cure his shakes. The real reason for the bail-out is to prevent Democrats from empowering the lower and middle classes with health care and new industries. Wall Street can take a flying bite out of my ass. The Depression was profound because Republicans DID NOT WANT TO INVEST in workers. Hoover helped Wall Street but sat on his hands as Americans workers were thrown to the wolves and began to starve--en masse.

Posted by: Sparko on September 24, 2008 at 11:07 PM | PERMALINK

Yay! A Hilzoy post!

"she has been surrounded by briefers for nearly three weeks, and she's still completely unable to string together an intelligent thought on the mortgage crisis."

I think the best explanation for that isn't that she's an idiot— it's that her briefers are completely incoherent on the subject, and she has no idea what to say that won't get her in trouble with the campaign.

Of course, it's possible that her briefers are incoherent and she's an idiot, but I doubt that. She's not dumb. Crazy, yes. Not dumb.

Posted by: s9 on September 24, 2008 at 11:08 PM | PERMALINK

As far as the Republican base is concerned, when the rubber hits the road, Jesus will be there to guide Sarah. He was momentarily distracted this morning during the Couric interview, so she got a little confused. Also during the Gibson interview. And every other time she has spoken. But normally, in more quiet times when she is shielded from the prying eyes of the liberal, hedonistic, atheist press, He is there by her side. Especially when's she's making fun of Obama. Haven't any of you seen that "Footprints in the Sand" poster? Any of you? Well that's Sarah in the Lord's arms there!

So you can just stop worrying and vote McCain!

Posted by: jonas on September 24, 2008 at 11:10 PM | PERMALINK

Quick! Hide Sarah Palin!

Yeah but where?
How about on top of that fence post over there?

Posted by: koreyel on September 24, 2008 at 11:11 PM | PERMALINK

Good piece, Hilzoy!

I recommend against the self-laudatory practice of saying things like, "I have long said...," or the like, because we all have learned to try to think a few steps ahead of these crooks, and recognize the weakness of saying, "aww hell, I have been forecasting that forever."

I have never said this to a blogger, and I hope you will take it in the spirit given, because I think it hurts bloggers' cred. unnecessarily.

Posted by: Styve on September 24, 2008 at 11:15 PM | PERMALINK

Has anyone bothered to parse Obama's words that closely?

Posted by: iron308 on September 24, 2008 at 11:16 PM | PERMALINK

Prediction: Sarah Palin resigns in days, Mittens steps in as VP.

Posted by: Dilbert on September 24, 2008 at 11:16 PM | PERMALINK

At least she prepared for this campaign in one astute way: we have it on film that she is absolutely immune--without question--to witches. Anointed and everything. It is like Simonizing without the nasty aftertaste. Couric seemed a bit combative, but the personal space was not violated.

Sheez. 2008? Gadfreakingzooks. You can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: Sparko on September 24, 2008 at 11:17 PM | PERMALINK

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2008/09/24/rick-davis-didnt-really-separate-from-davis-manafort-in-2006/#more-31995

Posted by: on September 24, 2008 at 11:18 PM | PERMALINK

"Quick study"? 6 yrs and 5 colleges it took her to get 4yrs of college education. That's not evidence of her being a "quick study". Wherever else she might be quick, "study" is not that field.

Posted by: exlibra on September 24, 2008 at 11:22 PM | PERMALINK

Has anyone bothered to parse Obama's words that closely?

Obama generally speaks in clear English, stringing sentences together in a manner so that they form complete thoughts whose meaning is fairly transparent. So, no.

Posted by: jonas on September 24, 2008 at 11:24 PM | PERMALINK

Quick run an ad...

McCain had his 3:00AM phone call and he wants a time out.

That's not change we can believe in.

Posted by: bruno on September 24, 2008 at 11:24 PM | PERMALINK

Now really folks, there's no need to hide her. She is very quick on her feet. Very quick in the sense of a high school student who hasn't done her homework -or read the assignment, and is called in front of the class in order to be embarrassed by her ignorance. I bet she has had plenty of practice. It shows. She strings together enough catch phrases to fool the average C student. Fool enough C students, and you can win the election.

Posted by: bigTom on September 24, 2008 at 11:41 PM | PERMALINK

Anyone hear the Couric interview? She is an idiot!!

Posted by: Styve on September 24, 2008 at 11:46 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't "quick study" what you're looking for when you need to pluck somebody out of the steno pool to cover at the switchboard?

Posted by: on September 24, 2008 at 11:52 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't "quick study" what you're looking for when you need to pluck somebody out of the steno pool to cover at the switchboard?

Posted by: Jean Arf on September 24, 2008 at 11:52 PM | PERMALINK

When is the press going to notice that McCain is obviously not well and obviously not 'up to' the tasks that lie ahead.

AND he has not provided for that contingency with an able second in command.

Posted by: Artemesia on September 25, 2008 at 12:04 AM | PERMALINK

I think I figured it out. She talks like a mediocre sportscaster, which is what she did for at least a short time. She's got cliches memorized down pat but that's all.

Posted by: Miss Otis on September 25, 2008 at 12:09 AM | PERMALINK

My father was cremated in a moratorium Katie. That's some trick qestion!

-Sarah of Arc

Posted by: GSD on September 25, 2008 at 12:11 AM | PERMALINK

"I want to know where the money went and why. "

Courtesy of the Oil Drum, some interesting speculation. Namely that the Fed itself is out of money--they started the year with $800 billion in reserve, and have spent all but $175 billion or so, trying to prop up the economy. The Treasury can print money to help the Fed out, but it looks like a desperate move, and it may result in the rating agencies lowering the rating of the US.

There's a link there to Jubak's Journal on MSNBC. Jabak suggests that the rating companies are finding it harder and harder to ignore the difference between how badly the US economy is being run and how well the economies of Brazil and China are being managed. I don't know anything about Jubak, so maybe this is wacko fantasy-land. It seemed to make sense to me.

The bottom line, of course, is that we are screwed.

As for Sarah Palin, I still give it a 33% chance that she won't make it until election day.

Posted by: PTate in MN on September 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM | PERMALINK

"I'm with impeachcheneyandbush. I want to know where the money went and why. The stock market tends to bet on other countries. They pissed away billions of dollars--somehow--and we are going to "stabilize" them. It's like giving an alcoholic a case of Scotch to cure his shakes. The real reason for the bail-out is to prevent Democrats from empowering the lower and middle classes with health care and new industries. Wall Street can take a flying bite out of my ass. The Depression was profound because Republicans DID NOT WANT TO INVEST in workers. Hoover helped Wall Street but sat on his hands as Americans workers were thrown to the wolves and began to starve--en masse."


----

I listened to that AIG conspiracy angle someone linked to yesterday and some of it sounded fairly legit. Iran Contra times 1 trillion. It's why Paulson needs no oversight as a precondition. The money trail would lead to down some dark alleys when followed.

Posted by: grinning cat on September 25, 2008 at 12:27 AM | PERMALINK

Is it me or does Sarah Palin sound like she's trying to be cast in the lead role of "Fargo: The Sequel"?

But give credit to Palin for sharpening her skills ... in the two quips that Hilzoy pulled out not once do she do the "thanks, but no thanks" shtick about the bridge to nowhere. That has to be a record, or something.

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Posted by: Kathy on September 25, 2008 at 12:39 AM | PERMALINK

...specific examples of McCain favoring regulation. (Note to Sarah Palin: boxing.)

Leave it to Hilzoy to recall McCain's brave and defiant stand against the all-powerful multi-martial arts lobby.

Posted by: kth on September 25, 2008 at 1:02 AM | PERMALINK

I've got an idea. McCain and Obama go back to Washington so we move up the VP debate to Friday. If Sarah Palin can't step up to a change in debate schedule then she isn't ready to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. Move up the VP debate to Friday! I think that's fair and good for the country.

Posted by: HanSolomente on September 25, 2008 at 2:01 AM | PERMALINK

For a while I thought Palin was the problem. Now, I'm beginning to think it's the whole McCain "brain trust", Graham, Ms. Golden Parachute, the Fannie lobbyist, etc. couldn't prepare a hamburger let alone a uninformed, struggling VP waana be. God, she looked like a disoriented space alien when Katie asked questions that exceeded the limited scope of her briefings. I remember Hillary saying that Obama couldn't stand up to the fearsome Republican machine. Perhaps, she should have said that Obama won't know how to avoid the flying shrapnel from an exploding McCain campaign. You know, sometimes, you just need to hit the deck fast when there's incoming.

Posted by: EL on September 25, 2008 at 2:03 AM | PERMALINK

You really know you're a lightweight when you set Katie Couric's bullshit meter off the charts. I find it hard to dislike people this stupid, but I manage...

Posted by: Doctor Biobrain on September 25, 2008 at 2:18 AM | PERMALINK

OK, I can't believe I'm about to defend Sarah Palin, but...

It would be nice if the running mate of one of the oldest candidates for President ever had some ideas about these issues. Since she's been prepping constantly, it's pretty alarming that she doesn't.

She's in the number two slot. It's not her job to put forth her own thoughts on a giant political hairball in public, it's her job to put forth and defend McCain's approach. Her own opinions on ths matter should be shared with McCain in private, and she should be vigorously working with him to put together a plan she can believe in-- but at the end of the day, her job isn't to make campaign policy, it's to implement campaign policy.

Of course, I would bet you a gazillion dollars that she doesn't have any opinions in private either, but that's beside the point-- it's unfair to ding her for acting as a loyal surrogate in a TV interview. It's not her fault McCain is as dumb as a post (perhaps the one with the turtle perched on it) and hasn't come up with a position yet; she's just trying not to get out ahead of her principal.

(Now I'm going to go wash the threw-up-in-my-mouth taste out. Defending Palin-- guh.)

Posted by: BubbaDave on September 25, 2008 at 2:21 AM | PERMALINK

I haven't followed the Katie Couric saga. But boy oh boy did her expression scream "and people thought I didn't have the chops."

Let me do a primal yawlp. I'm a post-feminist/anti-feminist cause I think that we only win the last mile by shutting up and just showing our stuff. But back in my feminist days this would have driven me absolutely up a tree. It's the dark side of affirmative action. We can hire the woman and show that we're 'enlightened' or whatever, but then show by (a) our choice and (b) the way we treat that choice that we really don't think women have anything useful to contribute. Argh. The whole stance requires a mindset that just cannot contemplate the possibility that a woman might be competent on her own merits (rather than by the helping hand we're offering). McCain is performing a deeply anti-feminist stance by trotting around this unqualified woman as a token. And if I were Hillary the very thought that *this* might have a chance to crack that glass ceiling would be enough to send me on a tare of campaigning for Obama. 3 or 4 stops a day. Calling down thunder and lightening from the skies.

Posted by: Maggie on September 25, 2008 at 2:32 AM | PERMALINK

Maggie: What you say makes a lot of sense.

Posted by: Jassalasca Jape on September 25, 2008 at 2:58 AM | PERMALINK

She's in the number two slot. It's not her job to put forth her own thoughts on a giant political hairball in public, it's her job to put forth and defend McCain's approach.

But BubbaDave, she didn't do that either. She didn't do anything. She couldn't even discuss the pros and cons of a foreclosure moratorium, and even the nothing answer she gave needed assistance by (gulp!) Katie Couric. While I've never believed that Republican leaders were stupid enough to let McCain win, there's always the possibility it might happen anyway. And it's quite troublesome that we could easily end up with a president that makes Couric look like a policy wonk.

But back to the point, I understand that VP's aren't supposed to be speaking for themselves, but she didn't do McCain any favors with this interview. She didn't have to give her personal opinion, but she needed to say something that sounded as if it had some sort of substance to it. Instead, she ran the clock with empty nothings. I'm sure McCain is spinning in his grave tonight just thinking about it.

Palin was a shiny new thing that has ceased being shiny or new. I betcha McCain is even now wondering if it's too late to get Holy Joe Lieberman as a last minute substitute. And at this point, I think I'd support that effort.

Posted by: Doctor Biobrain on September 25, 2008 at 2:59 AM | PERMALINK

Noun, Verb, “Tweety” McCain was a Viet Cong collaborator.

http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine06132008.html

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Posted by: Marc Schlee on September 25, 2008 at 5:37 AM | PERMALINK

Sarah Stalin is a pit bull.

Sarah Stalin is tied up in the back yard.

Now that's responsible management, my friends.

If only they could get her to stop that damned barking at odd hours.

Posted by: npr on September 25, 2008 at 5:44 AM | PERMALINK

Everything y'all have said . . .

But, it has begun to bother me that some keep throwing up the 6 years in college issue as somehow disqualfying Palin from high office. This may (and probably wasn't) the case with Palin, but lots of excellent students (many of whom I teach) take 5 or more years to complete their college educations for a variety of reasons none of which reflects badly on their intellect. In case the folks commenting here haven't noticed, college -- even relatively inexpensive state instiutions -- is almost out of reach for middle class people and many students come from families that can't help out too much with the bills. So, these students work close to full time to stay in school and some 'stop out' for a time to save up to continue. They don't always return to the colleges they've stopped out of.

While I wouldn't put much stock in a communications/journalism degree from anywhere (got to be the most vapid 'discipline' EVER), it's time to stop disparaging those who don't have Ivy League/elite educations as somehow unqualified to lead. Good for Obama that he was able to get into Occidental and then Columbia. It certainly says something in his favor, but there are lots of folks who have got just as good an education at Towson State or UMass Dartmouth.

Having said all that -- any education Palin got seems to have been wasted!!!

Posted by: clarence on September 25, 2008 at 6:28 AM | PERMALINK

From:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-meets-with-afghani.html

Saturday, September 20, 2008

Sarah Palin Meets with Afghan President Karzai (Transcript)

"Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin will meet next week with Afghan President Hamid Karzai in New York, on the sidelines of the opening of the U.N. General Assembly, according to Afghan officials in Washington."--Washington Post

TRANSCRIPT:

Palin: Oh, Mr. President, it is such a pleasure to meet you, you're the first head of state that I have had the opportunity to meet--which is more than many Vice Presidents--and I'm so glad that my first one is an Afghani.

You know, in Trig's class there was a little Afghani? He was the child of one of the oil executives, and he was so cute, with his little turban runnin' around, everyone just loved him, and felt for him...

Karzai: Yes.

Palin: And everyone knew that we just had to defend him and keep him free and that's why I think that with a Palin/McCain...

Palin Aide: (looking up from clipboard) McCain/Palin.

Palin: ...McCain/Palin ticket, we can make sure of that, if we have to attack Russia, even, I mean, to keep people free at home, just like we want to keep our people free. We have so much in common! I know you have the problem with the poppies, and I understand so well, Mr. Karzai, because we have the same problem with the crystal meth in Wasilla? And I said "Look, we've got to shake this up!" and then that's just what I said, I said 'Look, let's just see what we have in common with these guys!" And that's just what you could do with the Taliban, Mr. Karzai. They've already so moral, and they want people to live by the straight and narrow, and they've got the newspapers sayin' and the schools doin' lots of the right things. They just need to get some of the right ideas, and pray to the right Lord. And, if they don't understand, we still have the weapons left over from Iraq, and then we can't blink, we can't blink, can we, Mr. Karzai?

Karzai: (Looks at Palin silently without moving his head. Pauses.). Blink?

Palin: Right. The thing is, we just have to hit the ground runnin', Mr. Karzai. That's what I do. A few weeks ago I didn't even know what a Vice President doesclock so you know just how much time you have left until you finish it. I tell you, Mr. Karzai, it's such a motivating influence on my staff, the good ones, anyway, they know what they're supposed to finish and when, they hear me sayin' "Look at the clock, people, look at the clock, and know what you have left to finish..."

Karzai: Yes.

Palin: And so I said to my husband, Todd--I call him the "First Dude"--Do you have that word 'Dude' here in Afghanistan?--maybe it's like "Khan" or "Emir" or somethin'?--I said to him, 'Todd, we have to take a look at what's happenin' in Afghanistan--before McCain called or any other thing happened--' cause I saw that Russia was right across from us, and then right next to that you have all the 'Stans--(counts cross fingers) Kyrgyzstan, oh, what's the others?--well, you are aware of them, of course, Mr. Karzai (laughs)...

Karzai: (Nods)

Palin: And if we don't let other people know of what I'm aware of then the world won't change, Mr. Karzai. I know we have the same goals even if we don't have the same God yet...(aide touches Palin on shoulder, whispers). 'Even', not 'yet', I meant 'same God even, Mr. Karzai, and my point is, we can't let others stop our choice, which is freedom for those who deserve it, and that's why I know a Palin/McCain...

Palin Aide: (reaching over to touch shoulder)

Palin: Stop! (brushing aide's hand off)...McCain/Palin ticket will do just what you want, Mr. Karzai...

Second Palin Aide Approaches: It's time for your next appointment, Gov. Palin.

Palin: It was so good meeting you, President Karzai, and all of your other people, it was so good meeting you too! Shalom! (waves, exits).

Karzai: (to his aide, in Pashto): She makes the last one look like the Grand Mufti.

Cite:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-meets-with-afghani.html

Posted by: Marie Stewart on September 25, 2008 at 6:40 AM | PERMALINK

It's all theater for these Republicans, acting, no wisdom, no leadership, no expertise. They're good at hiding what they don't know, which is a lot. Yessir, lot's of hiding going on.

Yep, and do you know what's so scary? They've pretty much blown their chance to keep this election close and to steal it with voter suppression and voting machine foulups. What's their backup plan?

Posted by: pol on September 25, 2008 at 6:48 AM | PERMALINK

Palin derangement syndrome?

Posted by: Matt on September 25, 2008 at 6:49 AM | PERMALINK

Every time Sarah Palin speaks in these impromptu formats, she sounds like a foreign beauty queen contestant describing her platform to the emcee.

Posted by: Brian on September 25, 2008 at 7:03 AM | PERMALINK

"What's their backup plan?"

She hasn't cried yet.

Posted by: Saint Zak on September 25, 2008 at 7:21 AM | PERMALINK

You know how Bush speaks as if he were talking to 3rd-graders because that's how the concepts were explained to him? Well, Palin is doing the same thing. She regurgitates empty slogans and talking points because she has no personal knowledge of the issues and has to repeat the insipid, meaningless phrases that were fed to her.

Posted by: Rosali on September 25, 2008 at 7:28 AM | PERMALINK

Bush was no better and took the election twice. Her lack of certain kind of intelligence--the kind valued by liberals--is a feature not a bug.

Posted by: kay on September 25, 2008 at 7:33 AM | PERMALINK

It's clear that the difference between a pit bull and Sarah Palin isn't an understanding of complex ideas.

Posted by: Danp on September 25, 2008 at 7:44 AM | PERMALINK

I'd love to know yesterday's timeline. Like, when did the Couric interview take place in relation to the suspending of the campaign?

Just sayin'.

Posted by: chrenson on September 25, 2008 at 7:52 AM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: Eric Blair on September 25, 2008 at 7:55 AM | PERMALINK

McCain is trying to be a Senator? When he hasn't bothered to vote even once since April 8?

McCain is trying a cheap gimmick to look like he is the one setting the agenda after he adopted Obama's suggestions on what any bailout plan should include. And of course, trying to give his campaign an excuse to delay the VP debate for some unspecified period of time.

Posted by: tanstaafl on September 25, 2008 at 8:28 AM | PERMALINK

Wonderful comments, Dale, buckyblue, Mnemosyne, Marie, Danp, & others.

I agree with having the VP candidates stand in for McCain & Obama on Friday. This is an emergency, and substituting in an emergency is their entire job description, isn't it? And while we are at it, make the debate an extended and detailed discussion of the economy.

As to whether Palin is dumb, a) she came off second-best to Katie Couric, and b) she truly believes in a 6000-year-old earth and humans living with T. rex and Diplodocus. Those aren't promising indications.

Posted by: N.Wells on September 25, 2008 at 8:41 AM | PERMALINK

Yeah well I guess McCain decided it was time to quit voting "present."

If Biden and Obama aren't there then there are actually more Republicans voting. I guess it means the 60 votes thing is out.

The crisis is so bad at this point the political tactics should actually help something get through the do nothing 9% approval rated congress.

The Dems in congress do not want to make it look like the Maverick rode in to save the day - politics is always playing a part.

And the Pres. calling Obama back to Washington? Not a good look for Obama. He may have gotten out maneuvered again.

Posted by: Eric Blair on September 25, 2008 at 8:45 AM | PERMALINK

I just watched a clip of Letterman blasting McCain for cancelling on him but then interviewing with Couric instead of "racing back to Washington". He kept saying that something "smells wrong" and wonders what is wrong with the campaign.

Posted by: short fuse on September 25, 2008 at 8:53 AM | PERMALINK

On the debate issue,
Obama should announce that he is still ready to debate Friday night.
And also announce that Biden is ready to step in against Palin, if McCain can not make it.
In short, both Obama and Biden are ready now.
Strong contrast against the run and hide Repubs

Posted by: JimK on September 25, 2008 at 9:13 AM | PERMALINK

Good Ford, we get rid of "Orwell" and now this twit "Eric Blair" come in to spout Republican talking points? The author of 1984 must be whirling dervishly in his grave.

"Eric Blair," your bravado about the "low expectations" for Palin is amusing, but you should check in with the home office -- The McCain campaign is clearly desperate to minimize her exposure to American voters. McCain even blew off Letterman for an interview with Couric to bump her train wreck of an interview?

Here's the deal, "Eric Blair." Low expectations traditionally means a candidate is perceived at succeeding if she doesn't fall all over herself. There's no evidence Palin can do even that much.

Jackass.

Posted by: Gregory on September 25, 2008 at 9:17 AM | PERMALINK

Pit-puddy

Posted by: colonpowwow on September 25, 2008 at 9:30 AM | PERMALINK

Maybe their scared someone will ask her about her relation ship with AKIP, who's founder said 'The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for America'

Here's an interview with the AKIP Chairman on Palin's involvement

http://www.newsone.com/elections/article/akip-interview-on-palin

Posted by: Barack Marley on September 25, 2008 at 12:21 PM | PERMALINK

God Bless America, our future is bleek at this time.

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