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September 25, 2008

PALIN KNOWS RUSSIA.... Earlier, I suggested Sarah Palin's response to Kate Couric's question on the bailout was a low point in Palin's brief career as a candidate for national office. I spoke too soon.

As regular readers know, almost immediately after Palin was added to the Republican ticket, a number of conservatives, including McCain himself, argued Alaska's proximity to Russia necessarily amounts to foreign policy experience. I've been having some fun with this, because, well, it's the dumbest argument I've ever heard.

In the second part of the CBS interview with Palin, which will air tonight on the "CBS Evening News," Couric, to her enormous credit, asks Palin to explain what this talking point means.

COURIC: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?

PALIN: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land -- boundary that we have with -- Canada. [...]

COURIC: Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.

PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our -- our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia --

COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?

PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We -- we do -- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where -- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is -- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to -- to our state.

Usually, candidates for national office get better as time goes on. Palin is clearly getting worse.

I mean, really, think about Palin's argument here. She has foreign policy experience because Putin flies over Alaskan air space. Seriously, that's what Palin told a national television audience.

First, it's probably not true. Moscow is in Western Russia, and if a Russian leader were flying to the U.S., he or she would probably fly over the Atlantic. But geography aside, what does this have to do with foreign policy experience? If a head of state flies over you, you necessarily gain a background in international affairs?

I'm afraid Sarah Palin is not only embarrassing herself, she's quickly become a national joke. That John McCain continues to allow her to serve on the Republican ticket suggests his judgment is comically lacking.

Steve Benen 3:00 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (101)
 
Comments

No, no I think the reasoning works. This is why Dick's Cheney's time in the secret bunker qualifies him to be our ambassador to the mole people, too.

Posted by: mbk4178 on September 25, 2008 at 3:04 PM | PERMALINK

I think you meant PUTIN flies over Alaskan air space.

Posted by: margaret on September 25, 2008 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

Wow! She takes credit for foreign policy experience because the US Air Force patrols from bases in Alaska?

I guess I'm a European expert since the Atlantic approaches are patrolled from Cape Cod. Who knew?

Posted by: The Other Ed on September 25, 2008 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

The interview is terrible; do think she meant military Russian flights that may intrude on US airspace....

Posted by: chris on September 25, 2008 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

It's foreign policy expertise acquired by osmosis-- by way of planes flying into your vision from time to time--yipee!

Posted by: on September 25, 2008 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

Steve, I had just watched it on another site before reading your post. I was like, he either has saw this or we have a difference of opinion. Visually shook. Almost wanted to leave. Blanket blame..."reporter!" Help with vocabulary. Almost unwatchable. You don't watch it twice anyway!

And in the end, a complete dodge of the question. Defend the proximity argument! You made it, defend it! Commissions, delegations, blah, blah, blah. What has it prepared you for? Why is honesty so difficult. Like they are actually going to get someone, anyone that she is sufficiently prepared in that arena!

Posted by: TBone on September 25, 2008 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

Like Margaret says, I believe you meant Putin. And from the video, I don't think Palin is referring to Putin himself flying over Alaska, I took she meant "If Putin decides to invade America, his bombers and missiles will come over Alaska", which is even more idiotic of an argument.

Posted by: Charles on September 25, 2008 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

"Dumber than Sarah Palin."
"Well, you really pulled a Palin this time."
"I couldn't think of the answer so I just stood there and Palined."

Posted by: Dennis - SGMM on September 25, 2008 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

Clearly this brave and beautiful woman KNOWS the threat that Russia holds. And yet you mock her. She proves she knows what goes on at our border.

Badback Oshama will just surrender like any NonAmerican would. But Sarah would fight for US.

Thank the Lord we have these two Beautiful Americans running for the Honor of this Great Country.

Posted by: Free Lover of Freedom and Free Liberty on September 25, 2008 at 3:10 PM | PERMALINK

You know how sometimes in the movies the criminal (or the good guy wrongly accused or whatever) will get his buddy who happens to work in the police evidence room to go destroy the security tape before the trial? If I worked for the McCain campaign, that probably would be my ex post facto Sarah Palin media strategy.

Posted by: jibeaux on September 25, 2008 at 3:11 PM | PERMALINK

Admit it.

Right now you're thinking about that dye-job blonde beauty from South Carolina who became famous for her explanation of why Americans can't find Iraq on a map.

Go ahead: it's not sexist to point out that people who spend most of their time trying to look good usually don't know very much. There are only so many hours in the day, you know?

Dan Quayle was a cutie, wasn't he?

Point made.

Posted by: The Phantom on September 25, 2008 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

Doesn't every governor go on trade missions and receive visitors from trade mission? That's not foreign policy experience.

I am starting to believe the theory that the "suspension" of the McCain campaign was a set-up to cancel the vp debate (by saying the first presidential debate had to be rescheduled for the date of the vp one).

Posted by: democrat on September 25, 2008 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

I think on my next job application I'm putting down my time as shortstop for the Cleveland Indians. I mean, I love watching baseball.

Posted by: Chris on September 25, 2008 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

This calls into question the competency of the 114 thousand people who voted for her to be their governor.

She could quite possibly be the dumbest person alive.

Posted by: doubtful on September 25, 2008 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

Hmmm.

I hope the CIA tracks me down 'cause I know tons about China and how they think.

Where to begin? First, sesame chicken. Second, shrimp lo-mein. Third, Pork egg foo young.

Then I should also get credit for having ancestors who lived in Japan for decades. I even like to cook Japanese food, teriyaki chicken is my favorite.

I should also get foreign policy credit with France and Spain. I happen to speak French and know enough Spanish to get by.

oops I mean Mexico.

Another thing, I know Britain and Scotland real well. I haven't been there but I speak English.

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on September 25, 2008 at 3:14 PM | PERMALINK

Echoes of Dan Quayle...Sarah, his female equivalent...looks good but there's nothing in the noggin.

Posted by: whichwitch on September 25, 2008 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK

WTF? when did Seth McFarlane start writing Palin's scripts?

I swear, by the end of it I was expecting a quick pan across Couric's bemused face to this scene:

A close-up of a furious Stewie wearing a Cossack hat and muttering to himself -

"Damn. How did she know?"

opens cell-phone, speed-dials and waits for a reply -

"Vladimir! Cancel Operation Red Dawn, there's obviously a leak... don't argue with me, Comrade, this bitch is onto us! What's that? I don't care if Fidel won't like it. Wha... don't you cry, don't you dare cry.. uh.. Vladimir. Vladie, Vladie, come on now, I said you could have Georgia and I meant it, just not yet. Make do with the one you've got. Yes, yes, I'll deal with it... I'll, ooh, got to go!"

Brian ambles over

"What's up?"

Stewie clicks off his cell-phone and shrugs.

"Oh, Nuthin."

"Nice hat."

"Thanks. "

And then I wrote this, because she was that bad. Seriously, without massive MSM cover she's going to kill the McPalin Campaign in the debates. Which is why they're trying to exploit economic meltdown to keep her away from Joe Biden.

Posted by: Tony J on September 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK

Well, she is embraced by the same people who are going to kick some liberal ass thanks to all the mma they watch on the teevee.

Posted by: ChrisS on September 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK

I was in Detroit recently, and actually saw Canada across the river. It was right there, and really close. Now, I'm not sure if the Prime Minister of Canada's plane flew over my head, but it's certainly possible. By these new standards of expertise, I believe I'm supremely qualified to serve as Ambassador to Canada. Thank you, but I'm afraid I can't take any questions right now.

Posted by: JoeW on September 25, 2008 at 3:17 PM | PERMALINK

This is sort of a landing under fire in Bosnia moment, isn't it?

Particularly this sentence:

"from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation..."

WE send those out? Is Sarah Palin saying she is in charge of sending out military reconnaissance flights over Russian territory?

Needless, to say, I'd be surprised if the military involved her in any decision as to if, when and how they make those flights.

Posted by: on September 25, 2008 at 3:17 PM | PERMALINK

I took she meant "If Putin decides to invade America, his bombers and missiles will come over Alaska",

...and she and her church will pray intensely that God's will is to cause those bombers and missiles to deflect harmlessly into space?

Posted by: AJB on September 25, 2008 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

"That John McCain continues to allow her to serve on the Republican ticket suggests his judgment is comically lacking."

It's only comical if McCain loses. As of now, 43 percent of our fellow Americans, give or take, are planning on voting for him (and her).

Posted by: CJ on September 25, 2008 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

Is a "trade mission" like how our governor's wife got to go to Italy for a couple of weeks recently, you know, to interest the folks in Tuscany in tourism in NC?

Posted by: jibeaux on September 25, 2008 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

Good Lord, her comments about Alaska remind me of that other sage, Dan Quayle, who said:

Hawaii has always been a very pivotal role in the Pacific. It is in the Pacific. It is a part of the United States that is an island that is right here.

I wouldn't let this woman babysit my kids.

Posted by: Homer on September 25, 2008 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK

I'm still in shock that Katie Couric would be so sexist as to ask those questions. My god, what is TV news coming to?

Posted by: Lifelong Dem on September 25, 2008 at 3:23 PM | PERMALINK

That John McCain continues to allow her to serve on the Republican ticket suggests his judgment is comically lacking.

Actually, I believe the reverse is true. If McCain drops Palin from the ticket, it will be a tacit acknowledgement that he used poor judgement in choosing her in the first place.

So the only way McCain can get out of this mess is to keep up happy talk about what a great choice she is and hope for a miracle. Of course, there's only a very, very small probability of that happening. But if he drops Palin from the ticket, McCain's probability of vindication drops to zero.

So the charade must go on, painful as it is to watch.

Posted by: David Bailey on September 25, 2008 at 3:23 PM | PERMALINK

I watched this clip a minute ago, and I feel like someone has hit me over the head with a bat. I'm truly stunned.

Posted by: Rebecca on September 25, 2008 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK

Sarah Palin is a blithering idiot.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on September 25, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

Look, stop making excuses for her and admit it.

She's not smart. In fact, she's probably the dumbest candidate for President or VP of all time -- beating out Reagan, GWB and Quayle.

Poised, yes. Extroverted, yes. Outwardly polite, in a small town way, yes. Tenacious, and convinced that she can do no wrong, yes. Able to memorize common buzz phrases, yes.

But she only understands what people are saying to her on a superficial level. Her analysis has no depth. She is incapable of understanding how something she says might be interpreted by others who don't have her simplistic world view.

Even her rote memorization skills are lacking. I'll bet she has adult ADD, based on comments from Wasilla and Juneau about her inability to follow a detailed discussion for any length of time.

She flitted between 6 different lowest tier colleges before finally getting a sport journalism degree (a major that, like communications, is generally there so the scholarship athletes have classes they can take). She mentioned, during her gubenatorial campaign, that she got a "D" in economics. Her basic command of the English language is lacking.

I know everyone wants to say how smart she must be for having gotten so far. Blah blah. Look, having a high self-confidence and a willingness to stab others in the back does not make you smart.

Palin was a big fish in a small pond as a mayor, and was already out of her depth as governor. Her high popularity rating was solely due to the oil rebate given to every Alaskan -- if oil prices hadn't shot up they'd probably be talking recall right now.

We're talking room temperature IQ here folks. A lot of the basic thinking skills simply aren't there.

Posted by: Anonny on September 25, 2008 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

"She has foreign policy experience because Palin flies over Alaskan air space."

I think you mean Putin, not Palin.

Posted by: Josh on September 25, 2008 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

I was at Epcot at Disney World recently. While there I visited all of Europe, China and Canada. And I saw a groovy fireworks display.

Vote McCain/Chrenson 08!

Posted by: chrenson on September 25, 2008 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

Palin: our next door neighbors are foreign countries.

Well, yes. Yes, they are. Thank you Gov. Obvious.

Posted by: Ahcuah on September 25, 2008 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

Someone posted somewhere the other day that when she arrived in New York on her foreign leader bone-up, that she got too near Times Square and learned how to be a crack dealer.

Obviously she's been hittin' the merchandise.

Posted by: colonpowwow on September 25, 2008 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK

What none of you understand is that once Todd Palin has his way, Alaska will secede and ALL of Sarah's experience will be foreign. So she was right all along.

Posted by: Chris on September 25, 2008 at 3:28 PM | PERMALINK

Not all of Alaska voted for her, and even though I didn't, I feel the need to apologize to the rest of the country. I am so sorry.

Posted by: emd on September 25, 2008 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

"Of course being Governor of Alaska means I know Russia. Alaska used to BE Russia!"

Posted by: Newton Minnow on September 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK

Palin is Putin it to us. She is Russian roulette with all the cylinders loaded.

That's Just What I Said

Posted by: Dale on September 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK

Since McCain can't be at the debate because he has suspended his campaign so he can save America, he should send Palin in his stead. He is arguing that she is ready to be President should he drop dead, ain't he?

Posted by: Mister Dott on September 25, 2008 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

I've spent more time stranded in the Dubai airport than Palin has spent out of the country. I've held a passport for 35 years. She's held one for 1. I've been to 40 countries, she's been to 4. I have seen China from the Lao border (the border is sketchy there, so I may have even entered China), she can't even see Russia from mainland Alaska. I am certainly not qualified to be president. How is she?

Posted by: fostert on September 25, 2008 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

Just got off IM with my British brother-in-law in London, and he said the people are opening laughing at McCain and Palin and are amazed that they are still even in the running and getting 45% of the vote in national polls.

He said that if McCain & Palin were leading the Tories, they'd be polling about 10%, not that either of they would ever have been allowed to get anywhere near the leadership of the Conservative Party.

Just goes to show how the power of organized religion and the preference for ideology over competence is making the US a laughingstock all over the world.

Posted by: mfw13 on September 25, 2008 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

I think the problem centers around the fact that many US Americans can not afford maps.

Posted by: Layne on September 25, 2008 at 3:33 PM | PERMALINK

You know how whenever there's a catastrophe and the morning news hooks up a satellite feed and sets up an interview segment with the parents of a kid who's been swept away by a flood or lost an arm in a shark attack? And you know how the interviewees always stare at the camera and mumble answers that really say, "Why, in this moment of personal crisis, did I agree to go on national television and be interviewed?"?

That's what Palin looks and sounds like.

She might as well be eight years old. And Katie might as well ask her, "Where did Mr. McCain touch you?"

Posted by: chrenson on September 25, 2008 at 3:33 PM | PERMALINK

What she's looking at is called SIBERIA. It's mostly snow and tundra. Most of the population of Russia lives in the far west.

And most of Canada that she sees is also tundra. Most of the Canadian population lives along the US border.

*pinching* I'm not waking up! This isn't a bizarre dream I'm having?

Posted by: Speed on September 25, 2008 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK

You have to pity Joe Biden. This is a guy who likes to laugh, and Lord knows he's had little enough reason at certain times in his life. Standing next to her while this stuff pours out, how's he going to keep a straight face?.

Posted by: on September 25, 2008 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK

The McCain campaign today demanded that the vice-presidential debate be replaced with a special episode of Iron Chef. The candidates will prepare their favorite moose-based dishes with the results to be decided by a panel of gourmet judges.

"Anyone who criticizes the vice-presidential cookoff is in the tank for Obama," added McCain spokeshole Steve Schmidt.

Posted by: Dennis - SGMM on September 25, 2008 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK

I hate to say it, but I'm beginning to feel a little sorry for her. She's is ruined if McCain doesn't win, but she dug her own grave.

Posted by: pol on September 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK

In defense of Dan Quayle. He didn't spend ALL of his time looking good. He was also a near-pro-level golfer.

As for not letting Sarah Palin babysitting your kids, Homer, well, shit, I wouldn't let her babysit her own kids.

Posted by: Gideon Ross on September 25, 2008 at 3:36 PM | PERMALINK

Layne thanks a lot!

New laptop screen - DESTROYED

(just gotta stop drinking and bloggin', is there a self-help group for this?)

Posted by: MissMudd on September 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

You have to pity Joe Biden. This is a guy who likes to laugh, and Lord knows he's had little enough reason at certain times in his life. Standing next to her while this stuff pours out, how's he going to keep a straight face?.

There will be no VP debate this year. Biden won't have to worry about keeping a straight face. The McCain campaign will have Palin hit by a bus if necessary to prevent a VP debate.

Posted by: Lifelong Dem on September 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

With answers like that, Sarah appears to be asking for an appearance on SNL's Celebrity Jeopardy.

Posted by: SBG on September 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

I'm afraid Sarah Palin is not only embarrassing herself, she's quickly become a national joke. —Steve Benen

At this point, she's only a national joke to that minority part of the nation that reads news on line and reads blogs. Unless this sort of idiocy makes it on to the front pages of most of the papers in the country and broadcast news leads with her idiotic position, and points out in simple terms how idiotic it is, it will never reach much of the great unwashed and uninformed masses of this not so great country of ours.

Posted by: Jeff II on September 25, 2008 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

I think she meant that Putin rears his head and sends spy planes or the like into America, because she then said it was from Alaska that we (who? her?) send those (what? out planes?) to check out what the Russian planes are doing in and around Alaskan air space. Or maybe we send "those" into Russian or international air space. Hard to tell. Patently absurd, of course, that she has any notion of Russian and/or US military maneuvers, much less that she directs the activity.
I take it, also, that every citizen of Alaska is imbued with the same foreign policy expertise as Sarah Palin just by virtue of being there, under "those." I do wish Peter Sellers could have lived to experience this farce.

Posted by: cjm on September 25, 2008 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

What does she mean when she tells Couric “we have trade missions back and forth” when responding to Couric’s question about “negotiations?” Can anyone decipher that one? What “trade mission” does Palin have w/Russia?

Posted by: SMN on September 25, 2008 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

Wow, just think of all those VPs-in-waiting that live under the flight paths of international airports.

Posted by: ckelly on September 25, 2008 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

So can we assume she has a very security clearance and had been briefed on the potential threats ?

I'm sorry, but Putin is no longer Russia's President ? WTF ? She was talking about his current aggression or rather Russia's aggression under Medvedev ?

Exactly how many people transverse that border a year ?

Posted by: ScottW on September 25, 2008 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

I wouldn't let this woman babysit my kids. -Homer

I wouldn't let her babysit her kids.

Posted by: doubtful on September 25, 2008 at 3:47 PM | PERMALINK

Haha. Sorry for bogarting your joke Gideon Ross. Hadn't gotten that far in the comment thread yet.

Great minds, I guess.

Posted by: doubtful on September 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM | PERMALINK

What does she mean when she tells Couric “we have trade missions back and forth - SMN (3:42)

Here is an example of a trade mission between Alaska and Russia. I couldn't find a more recent one than 1997.

Posted by: Danp on September 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM | PERMALINK

I used to think she'd lose this year, no one would blame her since she's second banana, and that as a rising star in Republican politics she'd be back, a little more seasoned, in 4, 8, 12 years.

I just don't see how she recovers from this trainwreck.

She's toast.

I realize the polls are still close and anything can happen, but my mind cannot reasonably admit that she might be elected. I can't think the unthinkable.

And as incoherent as she is, McCain is no better when he's talking about the economy.

Posted by: JJF on September 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM | PERMALINK

I think McCain's strategy is more nefarious (nefariouser?) than we have guessed. By this weekend Palin will no doubt be sent back to Alaska to "keep an eye on Putin", where she will die in a trgic moose-hunting accident. McCain then will take advantage of the outpouring of sympathy to catapult (trebouchet? onager? balista?) himself to the White House. The first dude will collect on the insurance he has recently taken out, if any insurance companies are still solvent. Remember, it worked for Carnehan.

Posted by: Tim H on September 25, 2008 at 3:56 PM | PERMALINK

Someone posted somewhere the other day that when she arrived in New York on her foreign leader bone-up, that she got too near Times Square and learned how to be a crack dealer. Posted by: colonpowwow

Nice try, but she would have needed a time machine as well. Times Square has been pretty squeaky clean for about a decade now.

The tourists have returned in abundance mostly due to what is sometimes referred to as the Disneyfication of Times Square. Walking down Broadway you can stop to shop at a Toy's R Us store while on your way to 42nd Street to watch a matinee of Disney's latest film. A far cry from the area's squalid years but entirely within the tradition of entertainment and commerce, and giving the public what they want.

Posted by: Jeff II on September 25, 2008 at 3:58 PM | PERMALINK

Under the pressure, her self confidence is crumbling. Overlooking the the political farce, it is all very sad. But she grabbed the ticket without blinking so she has only herself and McCain to blame for the fiasco.

Posted by: lou on September 25, 2008 at 3:59 PM | PERMALINK

Cleeeeeearly theees beautiful woman is the first Amazon vice president and leeeberals cannot appreciate the beautiful warrior woman and mock her. Osama bin Laden would be proud to add theees beautiful warrior woman to heeees harem, so should you if you reeeeal American. So pleeeeez elect theees beautiful woman who fights the terrible Russians, fight Russians, forget terroreeests and islamofaschologists!

OBL Free Love Lover

Posted by: Capt Kirk on September 25, 2008 at 4:03 PM | PERMALINK

While a lot of people are *saying* they'll vote for McCain, when they walk into the booth they'll pull the lever for Obama. I think it's called the Dumbfuck Effect.

Posted by: npr on September 25, 2008 at 4:06 PM | PERMALINK

You know, it's one thing to say "My experience as governor of a state that's geographically near to Russia gives me a foreign policy background."

It's a silly claim, but it is at least a coherent statement. You can understand what the statement means.

Palin's reply to Couric is another matter entirely. It is incoherent gibberish, meaningless nonsense, and blithering idiocy.

Her words are not the words of a politician trying to "put one over" on the listener by making a silly claim. Her words are those of someone who needs to be committed to a mental hospital.

I mean that literally. I've encountered paranoid schizophrenic homeless people ranting on the streets of DC who made more sense than Palin.


Posted by: SecularAnimist on September 25, 2008 at 4:06 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, my God, she's going for the voting bloc consisting solely of Patrick Swayze and Red Dawn fans...

Posted by: Bernard HP Gilroy on September 25, 2008 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

I agree with Palin completely – when Putin rears his head, we should send those there.

What’s the point in even having those, if we don’t send them there whenever Putin’s head is reared? ANSWER ME!

Posted by: Ohioan on September 25, 2008 at 4:11 PM | PERMALINK

By this weekend Palin will no doubt be sent back to Alaska to "keep an eye on Putin", where she will die in a trgic moose-hunting accident.

Not gonna happen. Cheney prefers canned quail hunts with Scalia.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw on September 25, 2008 at 4:13 PM | PERMALINK

I was in Detroit recently, and actually saw Canada across the river.

Don't sell yourself short, JoeW. You were standing near the busiest port of entry with our largest trading partner. Forget Ambassador, you could be Secretary of the Treasury.

Posted by: apm on September 25, 2008 at 4:19 PM | PERMALINK

This is just pathetic.

Everything this woman says is either a lie or a rambling, incoherent, non-sensical mess.

If McCain wins, this will be marked at the point at which the U.S. began it's rapid decline into oblivion.

Posted by: DeeCee on September 25, 2008 at 4:19 PM | PERMALINK

I wanna see some photogenic english teacher go Olbermann and attempt to diagram her sentences.

Posted by: cookie on September 25, 2008 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK

I love it. But mainly because the Republicans are so wedded to the notion that you NEVER admit a mistake. ... MUST ... STAY ... THE COURSE!

Palin could have said, "No, I don't have a great deal of experience but ..." Not a great answer for a VP candidate, but not a game killer. Now she is dead. Lets how Couric's audience share goes way up tonight.

Posted by: jb on September 25, 2008 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

I cannot WAIT for the VP debate. It's going to be a serious train wreck TV.

Biden doesn't have to say anything other than, "I think I'll let Governor Palin use up my time on this question, too."

Posted by: Five Feet High n Rising on September 25, 2008 at 4:25 PM | PERMALINK

I think the thought she was trying to disgorge from the mixture of moose sausage and anti-witchcraft sponge in her head was that occasionally Russian observation missions or strategic bomber exercises skirt Alaskan airspace, which requires the Air Force or Air National Guard to dispatch a couple of interceptors to keep an eye on them. It's pretty routine. She apparently thinks this is the equivalent of negotiating an international crisis with Vladimir Putin, or something.

That fact that her intelligence does not seem to be the least bit insulted by the craptacular talking points the McCain campaign has given her to regurgitate on national television is evidence of either a keen lack of said intelligence, or a cynicism so deep and malevolent that portends grave danger to the republic should she ever get near a national office.

Posted by: jonas on September 25, 2008 at 4:29 PM | PERMALINK

The scary part of all this is that 45% of the people in this country ARE STILL planning on voting for McCain/Palin despite knowing full well that they are both very flawed candidates (and that's being generous).

In any other country, they'd be considered fringe candidates and would be polling about 10-20 percent.

Actually in any other country they wouldn't have been allowed anywhere near the leadership of their party.

Only in the USA is ideology and likeability allowed to trump competence.

Posted by: mfw13 on September 25, 2008 at 4:32 PM | PERMALINK

Oh please stop, please. Sides... hurting... laugh... can't breathe. Phew. Okay. Okay. Back to normal now. Just have to not look at that last line in the transcript again. Mustn't look. Mustn't.... aaaggh....

... as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where -- where do they go? It's Alaska.

Please, State of Alaska, I beg you: take this woman back. Or failing that, please please make this quotation your state motto.

Posted by: DrBB on September 25, 2008 at 4:37 PM | PERMALINK

NEWSFLASH!!! Box of Rocks now trailing Palin in polls for World's Dumbest Anything. Film at 11.

Posted by: on September 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM | PERMALINK

Many of us are convinced that electing and re-electing George W. Bush began our rapid decline into oblivion. Electing McCain and Palin is more like ignoring the absolute last chance to do a u-turn and head back the other way.

Anyway, Katie Couric actually did a good job. Follow-up questions when you get mindless nonsense as an answer. I wasn't sure reporters still knew how to ask those.

Posted by: Shalimar on September 25, 2008 at 4:41 PM | PERMALINK

The scary part of all this is that 45% of the people in this country ARE STILL planning on voting for McCain/Palin despite knowing full well that they are both very flawed candidates (and that's being generous). Posted by: mfw13

But do they really know or are they like a child who hopes that if he believes something with all his heart that everything will come out as he wants?

I've got four co-workers that think McCain is great and that Palin is something special. Of course, of the four, only one has a college education.

Posted by: Jeff II on September 25, 2008 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK

Dan Quayle was a cutie, wasn't he? Posted by: The Phantom

Huh? He looks exactly as one expects a lawyer from Indiana to look. And if he's such a "cutie," why couldn't he find a better looking wife?

http://www.nndb.com/people/004/000024929/

Posted by: Jeff II on September 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM | PERMALINK

Oh dear sweet lord of all that's holy ...

It takes a special kind of stupid to make Katie Couric look like a somber, well-informed journalist. A very, very special kind of stupid.

To quote someone else on the Intratubes:

I can see the moon from my house -- can I be in charge of NASA?

**bangs head on desk**

Posted by: Mark D on September 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM | PERMALINK

I have no interest in defending Palin but I can tell you that what she's talking about are Russian observation flights that do indeed occasionally enter U.S. airspace over Alaska (whereupon the U.S. promptly scrambles fighters to intercept and take pictures). It's pretty routine. It's nonsensical for her to use that as a foreign policy talking point but that statement was, in and of itself, perfectly legitimate.

Posted by: Nathan on September 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM | PERMALINK

>>I do wish Peter Sellers could have lived to experience this farce.

I keep wondering if I'm watching a campaign or a remake of Being There with a female lead.

Posted by: Spike on September 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM | PERMALINK

For one part, I can confirm that when flying from Moscow to the US, one does not, in fact , fly over Alaska. When coming from Moscow to NY (ok, it's not Washington, but still), one flies over portions of Scotland and very near the southern ends of Iceland and Greenland before entering North American airspace over Northeastern Canada.

For another part, I can confirm that even though I have made this trip twice (which is twice more than she has), I am not qualified to enter any negotiations with Medvedev or Putin (and dear lord, can you imagine her trying to pronounce Medvedev? No wonder she's going along with the "Putin's still in charge" meme, which may be true anyway)

Posted by: Don on September 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM | PERMALINK

It's nonsensical for her to use that as a foreign policy talking point but that statement was, in and of itself, perfectly legitimate.

It's not legitimate if if has nothing to do with what she's being asked about. Say someone asks me, hey, Stefan, to what do you attribute this current fiscal crisis? and I answer "Lisbon is the capital of Portugal." Lisbon is the capital of Portugal, yes, so that statment in and of itself is perfectly legitimate, but so the fuck what????

Posted by: Stefan on September 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM | PERMALINK

In Soviet Russia, Putin rears his head.
In America, Palin's head is up her rear!

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff II on September 25, 2008 at 5:32 PM | PERMALINK

Stefan, that's why I said it was nonsensical for her to use that as a foreign policy qualification.

I'm just saying that I (and I'm by no means the only one) knew immediately what she was talking about...and that she met Russian Badgers and Bears (they're intercepted out of Elmendorff), not Putin literally. it was actually her most coherent statement. it was just irrelevant.

Posted by: Nathan on September 25, 2008 at 5:34 PM | PERMALINK

Spike, there will be growth again in the Spring!

Posted by: pj in jesusland on September 25, 2008 at 5:37 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry to inject facts into this theatre of the absurd, but...
Air space is in federal jurisdiction, not state.
If a head of state, especially a big head of a big state, is flying in US airspace, everybody and his dog in the military knows about it and provides clearances, so it's basically a non-event.
Whatever negotiations need to take place are at the State DEPARTMENT, not the State of Alaska.
Trade missions are grip and grin, hardly policy.

Look, if Palin doesn't become VP she'll be the biggest political joke of all time. If she does become VP, she'll be the cruelest political joke of all time. I prefer the former scenario, the one the right is frantic to avoid.

Posted by: SteveB on September 25, 2008 at 5:38 PM | PERMALINK

I think Palin was speaking of Putin metaphorically and was referring to this incident in March:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Two U.S. Air Force F-15s escorted two Russian Bear long-range bombers out of an air exclusion zone off the coast of Alaska, U.S. military officials said Wednesday.

U.S. radar picked up the Russian turbo-prop Tupolev-95 planes about 500 miles off the Alaska coast.

The U.S. fighters from Elmendorf Air Force Base were dispatched to meet the bombers and escorted them out of the area without incident, the officials said.

The United States maintains the air exclusion zone off the coast of Alaska, barring unidentified aircraft or aircraft that don't file flight plans inside that area.

U.S. jets escort Russian bombers off Alaska coast CNN 26 Mar 08

Posted by: Shaun Appleby on September 25, 2008 at 6:22 PM | PERMALINK

The next time somebody hears Palin brag about her foreign policy experience based on her proximity to Russia, they need to blind-side her by noting that Alaska is also the closest State to North Korea, so what is her opinion on the current nuclear predicament there, and how will she be responding to succession concerns?

Posted by: SoCalAnon on September 25, 2008 at 6:51 PM | PERMALINK

Do you think she even knows what she's talking about? Because I sure don't.

Posted by: BaxterJ on September 25, 2008 at 7:06 PM | PERMALINK

"Putin rears his head"

The phrase is typically "rears his (its) *ugly* head". I'm pretty amazed that the potential US Vice President is so reckless in her phrasing toward someone who, while not an ally, is certainly not (yet) a leader of an axis of ill-repute. The rest of it is incoherent blather, but that her picture of Putin is such that she'd use this phrase is alarming to me.

Posted by: Jick on September 25, 2008 at 7:52 PM | PERMALINK

Sarah Stalin is one frightening politician.

McCain better have a food taster.

Posted by: David on September 25, 2008 at 8:14 PM | PERMALINK

"If McCain wins, this will be marked at the point at which the U.S. began it's rapid decline into oblivion."

That actually happened when Bush was elected.

Posted by: wbn on September 25, 2008 at 10:10 PM | PERMALINK

Re: Anonny at 3:27 PM:

That's the bestest best synopsis of Palin I've read yet. Please post this at every blog worth the time.

I just want to add to the festivities that it's a serious nod to the effectiveness of a crippled Rethuglican machine that they've kept McCain and Palin so close. Also a comment on the malfeasance of the media and willful ignorance of the American electorate, but it's all of a piece, yes? Whatever else is true, it's also true that RoveCo is good at its vicious, amoral game.

Posted by: on September 25, 2008 at 11:07 PM | PERMALINK

I think using her logic, everyone in New York City is qualified to be Vice President because the United Nations is there, so many many times the number of world leaders fly over head of those people.

Posted by: KP on September 26, 2008 at 6:40 AM | PERMALINK


Next time Katie should ask "Sarah, can you see the country of Israel from your house?" LOL!

Posted by: ctrenta on September 26, 2008 at 8:09 AM | PERMALINK


Next time Katie should ask "Sarah, can you see the country of Israel from your house?" LOL!

Posted by: ctrenta on September 26, 2008 at 8:09 AM | PERMALINK

I have this awkward feeling like I am watching an episode of "The Office" when she was trying to structure her responses during this interview. (her dialogue comes across like a female version of the lead character on that show) I hope that she brings more intelligence to the table than this ... maybe she just had a bad night. It happens! ... I am sure that if Obama wins this his team would like to know that they defeated a worthy opponent. Not that they were handed the victory due to candidate incompetence that made entertaining headlines and sound bites.

Posted by: hmm on September 26, 2008 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

I have this awkward feeling like I am watching an episode of "The Office" when she was trying to structure her responses during this interview. (her dialogue comes across like a female version of the lead character on that show) I hope that she brings more intelligence to the table than this ... maybe she just had a bad night. It happens! ... I am sure that if Obama wins this his team would like to know that they defeated a worthy opponent. Not that they were handed the victory due to candidate incompetence that made entertaining headlines and sound bites.

Posted by: hmm on September 26, 2008 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK




 

 
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