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October 6, 2008

DISHONORABLE.... If media reports are accurate, the game-plan for the McCain campaign is to start going after Barack Obama for his tenuous associations mid-week. In the meantime, though, they've decided to rehash 15-month-old smears. Here's a new "ad" unveiled this morning.

ANNCR: Who is Barack Obama? He says our troops in Afghanistan are

BARACK OBAMA: "... just air-raiding villages and killing civilians."

ANNCR: How dishonorable.

"Dishonorable" is the appropriate adjective, but it describes the ad, not Obama's comments.

The spot follows Sarah Palin's reference to the Afghanistan line during Thursday's debate. On Friday, with Fox News, Palin not only repeated the line, she said it literally makes Obama unfit for the presidency.

As we talked about over the weekend, this is ridiculous. Fifteen months ago, Obama said, "We've got to get the job done [in Afghanistan] and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there." At the time, a few Republicans, most notably Mitt Romney and Sean Hannity, said the comments were outrageous and offensive.

Soon after, the AP published a fact-check item, and found that Obama was right and his critics were wrong. The Republicans quickly dropped the issue and moved on. That was August 2007.

And now, it's back. Apparently having run out of new attacks, McCain is recycling old and thoroughly discredited ones, cynically hoping we have very bad memories.

Look, combat in Afghanistan is killing a lot of civilians. It's an enormous problem. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, just two weeks ago, felt compelled to apologize for civilian casualties in Afghanistan, after an airstrike killed 90 people. Does McCain believe the Pentagon chief was being "dishonorable"? If he does, he should say so.

I guess the underlying point here is that McCain and Palin are unconcerned with civilian casualties in Afghanistan? Or perhaps the notion that casualties are bad, but we shouldn't talk about them?

There's no real coherence to this attempted smear at all.

Steve Benen 9:40 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (24)

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This is off topic, I apologize, but i just got this email.
> PBS has an online poll posted asking if Sarah Palin is qualified. Apparently the Republicans knew about this in advance and are flooding the voting with YES votes. I know -- it's only a poll. But it will be reported on PBS, picked up by mainstream media and can influence undecided voters in swing states. Please do two things -- takes 20 seconds.
>
> 1) Click on link and vote yourself.
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> Here's the link: http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
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> 2) Then send this to every single Obama-Biden voter you know, and urge them to vote and pass it on.
>
> The last thing we need is PBS having to say our viewers think Sarah Palin is qualified.

Posted by: Jim on October 6, 2008 at 9:46 AM | PERMALINK

Sorry - Rass. has Obama up by 8% today the highest ever. And Battleground has him up by 7% - the highest ever for them. McCain is toast no matter what he puts out. As Wolfson says - It's over.

Posted by: C.B. Todd on October 6, 2008 at 9:46 AM | PERMALINK

I guess the Republicans are trying to stir up their Fox News base. When you are trying to rally the base a month out, you are in real trouble.

Posted by: Ron Byers on October 6, 2008 at 9:48 AM | PERMALINK

Announcer: Who is McCain? John McCain..

John McCain: does not want victory in Iraq.

Announcer: How dishonorable.


I am sure we can find a lot of clips that have McCain uttering the phrase does not want victory in Iraq. That he may have been referring to someone else does not matter according to his own standsrds of truth and smears.

Posted by: gregor on October 6, 2008 at 9:48 AM | PERMALINK

A person has to have been asleep the last 7 years not to have heard of all the civilian casualties (a lot of wedding parties for some reason) that have been hit by US airstrikes in Afghanistan and Iraq. Maybe wedding parties look suspicious because they involve people gathering together in large groups.

Posted by: Speed on October 6, 2008 at 9:48 AM | PERMALINK

You may gain some comfort from "keatingeconomics.com" paid for by Obama for America

Posted by: bcinaz on October 6, 2008 at 9:54 AM | PERMALINK

This ad will remind a lot of SNL viewers of the last opening skit that Tina Fey was not in. The McCain camp was depicted making smarmy ads, and McCain just had to say "I approve this ad" after each. For example, "Obama supports universal health care. Really? Even for Osama Bin Laden? That's change we can do without."

Posted by: Danp on October 6, 2008 at 9:55 AM | PERMALINK

There's no real coherence to this attempted smear at all.

Did you mean the McLame campaign? Gee, if last months campaigning was "desperate", what is this called?!

Posted by: The Galloping Trollop on October 6, 2008 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK

Hmmmm, if McCain is taking 15-month-old lines out of context, I guess his comment about staying in Iraq for 50 years, 100 years, maybe even a thousand is fair game after all.

Posted by: Lifelong Dem on October 6, 2008 at 10:10 AM | PERMALINK

I guess the underlying point here is that McCain and Palin are unconcerned with civilian casualties in Afghanistan?

They don't care about civilians in Afghanistan. Nor in Iraq. All they are concerned with is winning in November at any cost to further increase the civilian casualties of brown people for the next 4 years.

McCain knows a thing or two about being dishonorable and Palin is all about being unfit.

Posted by: ckelly on October 6, 2008 at 10:16 AM | PERMALINK

With the stock market tanking again today, these stupid lies aren't exactly going to get much
attention. McInsane is not going to be able to turn the page on a sub-10,000 Dow. People are hurting badly and are really scared.

Posted by: Steve LaBonne on October 6, 2008 at 10:16 AM | PERMALINK

They're getting help from Fox. Cruising the channels I came across a segment trying to paint Obama as a radical extremist and they are painting ACORN as some sort of radical, subversive group that generates thousands of phony voter registrations. Pretty ugly stuff.

A little off topic, I've always wondered how anyone could watch Fox. The first time I saw it I was struck by how weird it was. It made want to run for the exits.

Posted by: JohnK on October 6, 2008 at 10:18 AM | PERMALINK

McCain's also rolling out the Ayers stuff again; too bad the timeline doesn't match up. Obama worked with Ayers on a board working for small school initiatives in Chicago; Obama was a kid in Hawaii when Ayers was militant.

Here's what a fun counter-attack ad would be.

Announcer: Who is John McCain?

*Show clip of one of the propaganda films McCain made for the North Vietnamese Army*

Announcer: He made 32 of these films. How dishonorable.

I mean, if they want to go low...

Posted by: scroobius on October 6, 2008 at 10:21 AM | PERMALINK

Smears that are incoherent? Is there some other kind?

Posted by: Jim Pharo on October 6, 2008 at 10:21 AM | PERMALINK

There's no real coherence to this attempted smear at all.

No coherence except what we've come to expect since the convention: lies, distortions, and made up stuff. Just keep throwing mud until it sticks, or piles up so much around Obama that he can't get his message out any more. That happened this weekend.

Unless the press stops rewarding McCain's childish behavior we will have another man-child in the White House come January 21.

Posted by: nerd on October 6, 2008 at 10:23 AM | PERMALINK

The Obama campaign should put out an ad for a National Check Your 401k Day. We'll see how interested people are in McCain's foolishness.

Posted by: Saint Zak on October 6, 2008 at 10:24 AM | PERMALINK

If you are looking for coherence and competence in the palin/mccain camp, you are certainly confused.

Posted by: Michael on October 6, 2008 at 10:27 AM | PERMALINK

Saint Zak: The Obama campaign should put out an ad for a National Check Your 401k Day.

Now that's a campaign tactic we can believe in, my friends.

Posted by: Lifelong Dem on October 6, 2008 at 10:28 AM | PERMALINK

ANything is game for the Repugs. Seems like the Dems should fight back and hard - where is HRC and Kerry and all the other loud mouths that should be yelling back all the crap that McShame & McPain have been in and that are incendiary.

Palins own de-witchcrafting ceremony and McShames Keating5 hearings should be a good start. Wake up Dems and FIGHT before it is too late.

Posted by: wom67 on October 6, 2008 at 10:31 AM | PERMALINK

Team Obama needs to run two ads (or an ad with two points) in response to this:

Today, the stock market dropped another 500 points, draining our retirement funds, shrinking our nest egg, taking critical capital out of businesses in every hometown that could lead to the loss of jobs in families across America. But John McCain said he's ready to "turn the page" on the economy, and instead is running dishonest attack ads against Barack Obama. John McCain is gambling that negative smears will help his campaign, but don't let him gamble with your money. The economy is too important to ignore. Barack Obama has a real economic plan. To read it all, go to www.barackobama.com/plan. Barack Obama - changing the tone in Washington, providing steady leadership and good judgment, and creating the right economic plan for your family.

Posted by: zeitgeist on October 6, 2008 at 10:49 AM | PERMALINK

Jim - 9:46 a.m. Thanks for the tip. I just voted. Currently, it's tied 49%-49%.

Posted by: hark on October 6, 2008 at 10:50 AM | PERMALINK

Watching the Rovettes flail around is almost comical. They seem utterly incapable of a coherent plan. They don't seem to be able to think about tomorrow at all. In the coming days the stunning incompetence of Davis, Schmitt et al will be the story of this election cycle. The Democrats have at least two solid teams but the Republicans are all out of professional campaign managers.

Posted by: Ron Byers on October 6, 2008 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK

Just as with Bush, the truth is not acceptable. In the case the truth is dishonorable, the messenger must also be shot.

But then how many times did Bush say he would "listen to his commanders on the ground"? Sure he did, as long as they abided by the two aforementioned rules.

Posted by: Capt Kirk on October 6, 2008 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK

Someone up above mentioned that the press should fact check McCain better. Unfortunately, being shown how McCain and Palin are flat out lying would only bolster their credibility among the wingnut base. At this point, their only hope is to motivate the base to vote and they do that by making them pants-wetting scared of an Obama presidency. By late October, I wouldn't be surprised to see ads questioning where Obama was on 9/11.

Posted by: jonas on October 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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