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October 6, 2008

ALL OF BUSH'S IDEAS ARE NECESSARILY GREAT.... The president's odd combination of ignorance and arrogance has always been fascinating. Newsweek reported a few years ago, "It's a standing joke among the president's top aides: who gets to deliver the bad news? Warm and hearty in public, Bush can be cold and snappish in private, and aides sometimes cringe before the displeasure of the president of the United States.... Bush can be petulant about dissent; he equates disagreement with disloyalty."

Similarly, there was a Time interview with a "youngish" White House aide, described as a Bush favorite, who said, "The first time I told him he was wrong, he started yelling at me. Then I showed him where he was wrong, and he said, 'All right. I understand. Good job.' He patted me on the shoulder. I went and had dry heaves in the bathroom."

With this in mind, the latest report from Ron Suskind didn't come as too big a surprise.

One morning in 2001, one of President Bush's most senior economic advisors walked into the Oval Office for a meeting with the president. The day before, the advisor had learned that the president had decided to send out tax-rebate checks to stimulate the faltering economy. Concerned about deficits and the dubious stimulatory effect of such rebates, he had called the president's chief of staff, Andy Card, to ask for the audience, and the meeting had been set.

As the man took his seat in the wing chair next to the president's desk, he began to explain his problem with the president's decision. The fact of the matter was that in this area of policy, this advisor was one of the experts, really top-drawer, and had been instrumental in devising some of the very language now used to discuss these concepts. He was convinced, he told Bush, that the president's position would soon enough be seen as "bad policy."

This, it seems, was the wrong thing to say to the president.

According to senior administration officials who learned of the encounter soon after it happened, President Bush looked at the man. "I don't ever want to hear you use those words in my presence again," he said.

"What words, Mr. President?"

"Bad policy," President Bush said. "If I decide to do it, by definition it's good policy. I thought you got that."

The advisor was dismissed. The meeting was over.

Shortly after leaving his job as the president's press secretary, the late Tony Snow defended the decision-making process in the Bush White House and said, "When people look back at this White House, they're gonna find its one that had a lot of intellectual vigor."

I doubt that very much.

Steve Benen 10:30 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (26)
 
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i'd love to learn who the "adviser" was, because anyone who didn't resign on the spot should never, ever be listened to again about anything.

Posted by: howard on October 6, 2008 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK

The White House, sure. When people look back at the Bush administration, though, they're going to find that it had a great deal of "stoopit" vigor.

Posted by: on October 6, 2008 at 10:41 AM | PERMALINK

And when the president does it, that means it's not illegal.

Posted by: Richard Nixon to David Frost on October 6, 2008 at 10:42 AM | PERMALINK

The fact that working class Americans voted for Bush in 2004 remains an enigma. The desire for revenge perhaps, is what caused them to vote for the embodiment of Their Worst Boss.

This time we'll see if racism will motivate them to bring in Their Worst Boss's Designated Heir.

Posted by: Capt Kirk on October 6, 2008 at 10:50 AM | PERMALINK

Gotta love that Nixonian political theory. If the President does it, it's good by definition, just like it's legal by definition. Forget laws and common sense.

Seriously, he really must think himself a dictator.

Posted by: Kryptik on October 6, 2008 at 10:54 AM | PERMALINK

Well, of course all of Bush's ideas are great.

That is---if you can measure "greatness" with a yardstick called "horribly, terribly, ridiculously, pathetically bad."

On a somewhat-related-to-Bushylvanianism-madness note, the DOW is a-goin' down. Pass the popcorn....

Posted by: Steve on October 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM | PERMALINK

As in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" when God says, "Of course it's a good idea!" (as if God would ever have a bad idea)

Posted by: Marko on October 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM | PERMALINK

I find these snippets fascinating.

Well fascinating in a train-wreck sort of way.

Posted by: neilt on October 6, 2008 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK

Did anything that Tony Snow ever said turn out to be true? I'm thinking, but so far it's a blank.

Posted by: jimBOB on October 6, 2008 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK

What does it mean, "dismissed"? Dismissed from the meeting or fired?

Posted by: Ronnie P on October 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM | PERMALINK

The desire for revenge perhaps, is what caused them to vote for the embodiment of Their Worst Boss.

There's a Stockholm Syndrome factor at work. They hate their boss, but they also want to be him.

Posted by: Tyro on October 6, 2008 at 12:18 PM | PERMALINK

"If I decide to do it, by definition it's good policy. I thought you got that."

Just another sixteen words, from the world's most ignorant man, spelling doom for a great many people.

The jawbone of an ass strikes again.

Posted by: chrenson on October 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM | PERMALINK

You quote: President Bush said. "If I decide to do it, by definition it's good policy. I thought you got that."

OMFG. Even Nixon didn't go this far. He just said anything he did was legal, not that it was good.

Posted by: CMcC on October 6, 2008 at 12:26 PM | PERMALINK

I'm guessing it was Glenn Hubbard, the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers. It sounds like an academic, which means it was most likely a CEA member - Bush sure didn't have many academics in other posts in his white House. The other two CEA members from 2001 dealt with different issues: Mark McClellan (healthcare issues) and Randy Kroszner (macro/monetary policy).

I remember thinking that Hubbard, while a strong supporter of the Bush tax cuts, & esp of his own idea of removing income tax on dividends, seemed like kind of a lukewarm Bushie, esp after leaving office. Now I think I know why.

Posted by: Basilisc on October 6, 2008 at 12:30 PM | PERMALINK

Well, this confirms Little Georgie's publicly-stated preference for being a dictator. Those words are, by defnition, the words of a totalitarian.

Posted by: TCinLA on October 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK

Totalitarian, h*ll -- try megalomaniac! If this anecdote is true I'm seriously worried about his sanity. We already knew he was incompetent, but now I wonder if he's certifiably manic-depressive.

Posted by: T-Rex on October 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM | PERMALINK

Well, you're right of course. But oddly, I can feel a little sympathy for Bush in this, because I can imagine what my reaction would be to being told I was doing something "bad." So if Bush had instead said the term "bad policy" pushes his buttons, and that it should be avoided in favor of the phrase "I disagree with the value of this policy and here's why..." --- well, that would be a much better approach for me, too, if I was in an executive position, instead of the direct challenge to the boss's authority. But, saying that his decisions were, by definition, good policy --- that, of course, is not acceptable.

Posted by: catherineD on October 6, 2008 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

"When people look back at this White House, they're gonna find its one that had a lot of intellectual vigor."

An obvious misinterpretation. I believe the (hack hack) aid was actually using the yiddish term "vigorish" Intellectual or otherwise, the Bush administration is based pretty much on the concept.

From Wikipedia: Vigorish: "Yiddish slang originating from the Russian word for winnings, vyigrysh. Bookmakers use this concept to make money on their wagers regardless of the outcome."

Posted by: Wacky Librul on October 6, 2008 at 1:22 PM | PERMALINK

" The president's odd combination of ignorance and arrogance..."

...is totally typical of someone who's faking it, and knows it, and knows that everyone around knows it too.

Posted by: smartalek on October 6, 2008 at 1:39 PM | PERMALINK

And yet, and yet and yet Suskind goes on to write this a few paragraphs later:

a George Walker Bush is not a stupid or a bad man. But in his conduct as president, he behaved stupidly and badly.

No, Ron, Bush is both Stupid and Evil.

Posted by: martin on October 6, 2008 at 1:42 PM | PERMALINK

For those of you wondering about the state of our Dear Leader's sanity, let me remind you that he has been talking to God for a long time now. What is it we say about people who hear voices? And as far as megalomania goes, what does it say about someone who tells God what to do?

Posted by: Texas Aggie on October 6, 2008 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK

That precise combination of arrogance and stupidity is exactly what the base is finding so wonderful about Palin.

Posted by: Joe Bourgeois on October 6, 2008 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

Interesting that this same illogic is what's being used against Obama in the new Afghanistan ad mentioned a few posts below ("air-raiding villages and killing civilians"). Obama's quote, in context, is pretty true, so what's objectionable? Seems to be that he's criticizing the administration's handling of the war in Afghanistan....

As much as the Bush administration and the McCain campaign seem to support bringing democracy to other countries, they don't seem overly fond of the part that says it's OK (and encouraged) to criticize government (or its leaders).

Posted by: Left_but_Right on October 6, 2008 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

I think Wikipedia's wrong about the vig. Maybe it's from Russian, maybe it means winnings, but the vig is the interest you pay the shark on the loan. It has nothing to do with a wager.

Posted by: on October 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM | PERMALINK

maybe he thought he had been elected Pope.

Posted by: short fuse on October 6, 2008 at 6:29 PM | PERMALINK

The advisor should've said, "Well, okay, it may be good policy, but it's a bad idea."

History has the last laugh: Mr. Good Policy will be seen as the worst President this country has ever had. The name "Bush" will epitomize bad policy.

Posted by: josef on October 6, 2008 at 6:31 PM | PERMALINK




 

 
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