This is why it was dumb for so many people to jump on Hillary's mention of RFK getting assassinated in June. In that case, she hadn't even been discussing Obama and was making a comparison re: long primaries. Here, McPalin are clearly cultivating an ugly, scary mentality that, should Obama win, could put him in great danger. Yet if we call them out, we'll be called hysterics and accused of jumping on every little thing that isn't pro Obama.

...and Obama just shakes his head sadly and says: "That's all they've got left. After eight years of incompetence - incompetence John McCain ratified 95 percent of the time - he now wants to "turn the page" on the economy for...this. Don't you wish you could "turn the page" on the economy? Go hide in one of your 13 houses? I've got news for John McCain: Fear isn't going to work anymore. Lies aren't going to work anymore. It's time to go to work. The American people deserve better than this silliness."

I really think that Palin's ultimate goal is to be the next Ann Coulter. Should McCain not get elected, I think we can expect her to get her own show on Fox News. It would be a perfect fit, really.

wilder, that was the first thing I thought of too. Whether you think Hillary was right or wrong to say what she said, though, the fires that McCain/Palin are now stoking are a thousand times hotter and more dangerous. It is profoundly irresponsible for a presidential campaign, in the heat of an intense campaign, with frazzled and demoralized supporters bracing for a big loss, to use eliminationist rhetoric that provokes screams of "Kill him!" and "Terrorist!" from its audience. And it is, certainly, particularly disgusting in this instance, as the specter of assassination has haunted the Obama candidacy since its inception. For McCain/Palin to embark down this road, at this time, in this way, is a deep and fundamental betrayal of the democractic compact that keeps this country functional, a deliberate and calculated rhetoric of hate that in the best-case scenario won't even help them win and in the worst could result in the unthinkable.

"Country first" used to mean something. This isn't it.

Look for the contrite apology from McCain after the first week in November--not a day sooner. Palin appears incapable of even faking shame; she really is Bush's heir.

I think it's time to ask what the Secret Service is doing to protect Obama, and discuss what it means for the GOP's VP candidate to be inciting angry, racist mobs with blatant lies.

With each passing day, McCain's campaign reminds me more and more of the storyboard for Seven Days In May - really scary stuff for any self-respecting small "d" democrat out here in America's heartland.

Palin and McCain are taking the civil out of their campaign discourse. It is getting difficult to forgive their follies, as their rhetoric is becoming more and more reckless and dangerous to our dear democratic traditions and heritage.

At this rate, violence on election day may reflect a flailing democracy on a different continent more than it should here in the good ol'USA.

Bush has initiated the move to a banana republic, and I suspect McCain wants to be the strongman of the operation come the next 4 years. -Kevo

Palin already has her eyes on the 2012 nomination. Romney and Huckleberry better be ready for the nastiest Repub primary season ever.

I wouldn't be surprised if these people yelling out these obscenities are plants. Its too coincidental that everyday now someone within in range of a microphone at a Palin rally says something that would get the attention of the Secret Service. Its especially so sense very little about the McCain-Palin campaign has been authentic.

The same men who killed JFK, MLK, and RFK, are still running the show people. These are the men behind the curtain. I have to honestly say I do fear for Obama's life when he wins.

McCain/Palin create the framework leading their rabid base to the fill-in-the blank conclusion: "Kill the treasonous terrorist!" They are purposefully leading the mob. Many are complicit, but there is always an Evil Leader.

So much for a "Culture of Life" eh?

Did anyone else cringe mightily while watching Guiliani's & Palin's performance at the Convention, the sneering, dripping sarcasm, the bile, the jeering, and the rapturuous applause?

It made my stomach sink, it was vile, blind, hate and rage for no good reason. It was revolting to watch.

These last two days have been even worse.

(and should the unthinkable happen Mr. McCain, you will NOT get off scot-free. The manner in which you deliberately stoked the fires has not gone un-noticed, you petty little man)

Republicans practice a capitalist morality, which precludes national loyalty.

You know your party's descended into sheer nutballery when Rudy Giuliani is the voice of reason.

Zengerle is wrong. I lost! If breaking a few eggs is what it takes to win, it would be irresponsible for McCain not to do whatever it takes.

If McCain/Palin don't outright discourage this behavior now, what happens if they lose?

If their crowds are slowly getting into a frenzy now, on election day what kind of tempest will have been brewed?

Maybe I'm watching too much TV but really, if grown people are suggesting "kill the terrorist Obama" now and Obama wins how upset will those people be?

Upset enough to incite a riot?
upset enough to knock over oa meth lab and go on a mission to take him out?

McCain are really irresposible to allow them to say these things.

It's almost as if the McCain-Palin campaign are out to create low-information voters, not just court them.

Speaking of that term, "low-information voters" can't we just call them "ignorant" voters? It may not be PC, but it's accurate.

The homestretch is going to get uglier. From accusing a nine-year-old Obama of "palling around" with a terrorist to calling him dangerous and unAmerican, I think we're seeing what the right is capable of. And with the volatile responses from the crowds, we're looking at a meltdown not just of the republican candidates or the republican campaign, but of the republican party. They're cornered and losing control.

For the first time in my memory a republican candidate has been accused of lying, the evidence has supported it, and the general public has believed it. Rarely is the issue of honesty so cut and dried. The foaming wingnuts can't be so incredibly blind that they can't see this. Even if they can't admit they're being lied to, perhaps they could know they are.

And, if that's the case, it's going to drive many of them much crazier.

The whole thing resembles a bad teen-sploitation movie where the popular football player squares off with an unpopular nerd. They agree to fight and the whole school crowds around them and the popular kid is revealed to be a deeply flawed, emotionally unstable asshole.

Then the nerd makes a speech about accepting people for who they are. And in the back, there I stand, a lone band geek clapping my hands slowly. Then others join in. And soon we're all clapping and whistling.

And then a Kenny Loggins song cranks up and they roll credits.

Hate radio is the instigator of all this. Limbaugh, Hannity, Boortz and the rest have been saying or implying such nonsense for years--day after day, hour after hour. It was only a matter of time before it seeped into the mainstream of Republican politics.

We need to break up the oligopolies that own our airwaves.

And, we need to recognize when others are shouting fire in a crowded theater. Right-wing crazies continually claiming (or implying), on our airwaves, that somebody who they disagree with should be killed (it's happening) should be a crime in and of itself (Res ipsa loquitur)--inciting murder is not protected by our Constitution.

"Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity on accused shooter's reading list"

Ah, yes, America's Mayor of Unity, Rudy Giuliani. 'Member that time back in '92 when he roused a mob of drunken white police officers with an obscenity-laced speech about Mayor Dinkins? Ah, good times.

That was awfully brave and noble of St Rudy, considering how few Democrats there are in NYC.

Palin reminds me of the bimbos who, back during my South Texas bar fighting days, would egg on her pickup of the evening to start a fight and then go through his wallet when he got knocked on his ass.

If this kind of thing makes you angry and stirs you up, go to your nearest swing state and canvas for Obama. It is kinda fun and you can really make a difference that way. I have never encountered anybody unpleasant while doing it in Virginia(I live in Maryland). Go to Obama's website and sign up for it. It only takes a few hours of your weekend time. Or next time the campaign calls you, just agree to do it and go for it. I promise you, you will feel a sense of deep satisfaction after the first time. If you are anywhere near North Carolina, Nevada, Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Colorado you can do this. They will even tell you what to say.

While it does seem likely, what if we have a repeat of the 2000 election where the results hang on a recount or recounts in two states?

The establishment should be hoping for a blowout or things could get ugly.

The same men who killed JFK, MLK, and RFK, are still running the show people. These are the men behind the curtain. I have to honestly say I do fear for Obama's life when he wins. Posted by: citizen_pain

No and yes. No one is running the McCain/Palin show at this point. That's exactly why it has fallen to this. And, yes, the possibility that some crazy motherfucker will try to kill Obama if he is elected has been in the back of my mind since day one. It doesn't mean anything to anyone under the age of 40 or so, but I remember the MLK and Bobby Kennedy assassinations quite well.

We are living in dark times now. But 1968 through about 1972 still stands as the worst period of American history since WWII.

It is utterly disgusting to see this happening. To see all of the major networks celebrating it. To have politicians of any and every stripe not out front condemning it.

I fear for tomorrow.

So-called "conservatism" in America today is a pseudo-ideology that has no actual content except hatred of "liberals", just as the pseudo-ideology of 1930s brownshirts had no actual content except hatred of "Jews".

You can take pretty much any rant by Palin, Coulter, or Limbaugh and replace each occurrence of the word "liberal" with the word "Jew" and it would be interchangeable with the "political" rhetoric in 1930s Germany.

Sarah Palin would look so cute with a little square mustache. Doncha think?

You have to be curious about the type of voter this rhetoric works on. He's a member of the United States Senate. If he were a terrorist, pals with terrorists, etc. etc. etc., wouldn't that have prohibited his election to government.

Hateful people only need a reason. McCain is giving them that reason. I hope he lives for forever!

Once McCain loses, I wouldn't be surprised to see Palin become the de facto leader of the GOP. It will be an uglier, more racist party, but she will put a smiling face on it. The next few years will be economically tough, just the type of environment where her brand of bullshit can thrive. I don't think they'll be strong enough to win majorities, but their threat of violence could become a political factor in this country.

I'm just speculating, but it could become true.

Four nights ago, when walking downtown, my wife and I passed three young men who were making fun of an Obama bumper sticker. Here, verbatim, is what I heard them shout in a fairly large crowd of people:

1st man: "Obama? Bull shit!"

2nd man: "More like 'NObama!'"

3rd man: "Mother fuckin' KKK will make sure of that!"

And then they high-fived each other.

I've been depressed ever since. That a trio of rednecks can still feel comfortable joking aloud in the company of strangers about the potential assassination by a hate group of our country's one real hope for redemption, because he's black, just doesn't seem possible.

I've spent way too much time checking out blogs and news stories and youtube videos and whatnot lately. And one thing that has struck me is that the entire rest of the world, every corner of it according to posts from far-flung individuals, is holding its collective breath for November 4th. They see our duty as voters to be pure and simple. Get Obama into office and put him to work.

For the last few months I have had faith that our nation, and especially my region of it, could transcend the racial divide and do something good. This bullshit and the hateful attitudes of a few vocal people around me make me question whether this country is really ready. Or whether we even deserve to grow up.

McCain/Palin have reached a point where they have to decide whether whipping right-wing activists into a frenzy, based solely on lies, is the responsible way to seek national office.

Clearly, they've already decided.

If Republicans pursued only responsible ways of getting into office, we wouldn't have just suffered through eight years of George Bush.

We need to understand that the seething rage, the fiery hatred of the left is there, whether stoked into frenzied expression at rallies or not. And I agree with those who point to decades of hate radio as a leading cause of this national, crazed crusade against liberalism. Just listen to the anger in the voices of the callers. It's chilling, deeply disturbing.

If Obama does win, the attacks on him, the attempts to destory his presidency, could be even more vicious and vehement than they were during the Clinton years.

Have you watched McCain lately? Their overheated supporters aren't the only ones feeling rage at Obama.

I'll expect Bill O'Reilly along any time now to forcefully condemn the "hate" coming from the rightards as he does with the left. Bill? Bill?

The one positive is that the country is being offered an in-your-face demonstration of the type of win-at-all-cost divisive campaigning the is the precursor to the type of government we've had for the past eight years.

It serves as a reminder and hopefully stains the GOP for generations.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Let us hope (and ask) that the secret service is going to extra efforts to prevent anyone from doing any violence to any of the candidates.

Much of the discussion here is directed toward home grown nuts creating mayhem. But please realize that we do still live in a world threatened by foreign terrorist organizations that would love to take down a national figure at such a critical time. Destroying whatever hope we have now would place us in double peril.

Still, it does not speak well of any candidate at this critical time to inflame such dangerous passions. McCain and Palin have stepped over the line.

If I were McCain I'd tone it down. A lot of violent people are wanting Palin to be President and he would be the last obstacle.

That's Just What I Said

Palin did say at the convention that democrats don't understand that this is a fight to the death. It stuck with me then. Now it scares me. Do more than vote. Canvas or phonebank too.

There will be no accountability for these outbursts - "kill him," "treason."

But you can be ejected from a McCain event if you hold up a sign reading "McCain = Bush."

Link:
http://www.progressnowaction.org/page/community/post/al/Cqyh

Palin is playing the part of Spiro Agnew to McCain's Nixon - only McCain doesn't have what it takes to be as effective as Nixon was.

The McCain camp overall is desperate. They are already on the losing side and they know it. Their morale is low, and the top managers have lost control of the overall campaign, which explains the surprising leaks that Rove questioned the other day.

The loss of control is unsurprising, as McCain himself is a rotten manager yet refuses to accept being managed. He operates on a one-to-one basis (like a feudal Baron) with no real understanding of the kind of management systems required by a large organization. Instead he personalizes everything. This is a very common form of management even today. It simply doesn't work well at the higher levels in large organizations.

If you want an explanation why McCain himself seemed so angry at the last debate, look at that loss of control in his campaign. He's losing the election and his campaign staff is running off and freelancing. They have been for the last few months. (Gramm - Fiorino - Holts-Eakin - possibly Palin recently under control of staff members from the White House.) McCain is losing the election and there is nothing at all that he can do now to save it. It would be surprising if McCain were NOT angry given his history of temper.

The nutballery has always been there for the Republicans. Joe McCarthy and the John Birchers were no more sane than the current crop of right-wing extremists, they were just less tied into the evangelicals. Keeping control of that extremist faction has always been a problem for the Republican Party, and it has gotten worse as the conservatives ran the moderates out of the party. Prior to this year the prospect of winning was enough to keep the idiots off the streets, but this year the Republican primary demonstrated that the wheels have come off of the Republican system. That's why McCain wound up with the nomination in the first place.

If McCain and Palin were to offer a similar sentiment now, the rage from their overheated supporters might cool down -- and be less nauseating.

Rage? Team Maverick is counting on that rage to get the frothers to the polls.

Did anyone catch Elizabeth facist Sean Hannity admirer on the View today--she was allowed to speak over all the rest of them. Joy, who is the brightest of all --has not been able to get her talking point in--she was drowned out by Elizabeth and also Whoppi, who seems too often to mak rather wishy-washy not sure what you are going with that comments. Argh!

Hasselhof (sp?) insisted that the Dems are the ones that allowed the sub-prime loans and stated repeatedly that "time and time again" we see Obama has these shady connections--so that therefore they do matter.

None of this was adequately challenged.

Well, here's my prediction du jour: During tonight's debate, Obama, in an extremely tactful and respectful grownup-to-grownup kinda way, is going to bring up the nastiness of the McCain campaign. He's going to remind McCain of the respectable debate he had promised to run, no mud-slinging, no race-baiting. Obama will further points out that, of course, the McCain campaign is not responsible for the opinions and sentiments and biases of all its supporters, but the fact that McCain does nothing to stem these shout-outs, does nothing to remind people that we're all Americans and that elections are based on ideals and goals and now faux patrotism contests, is one of the reasons why so many people are bitterly disappointed in McCain as of late.

And it'll drive McCain batsh*t.

The media will subsequently talk about how Obama shouldn't have gone there. Fox news puindits will, in fact, come pretty close to referring to Obama as "uppity," that he didn't know his place, etc. But then the flash polls and the focus groups and the day-after polls and the week-after polls will all say the same thing again and again and again: Obama was right for calling McCain out on his & Palin's lies and his personal attacks.

I agree with CJ. Go to this link for a video on shock jock radio from Bill Moyers. McCain knows better but can't help himself & Palin is drunk with her new-found fame.

McCain's trying to build intensity leading up to the debate during which he will undoubtedly reference the "growing chorus of doubters" who want to know who Obama "really is."

Of course it's a chorus of Tucker Eskew's creation. Republicans are very self-referential.

What does it say about McCain and Palin if you have to cite Rudy Giuliani as an example of the responsible behavior they are failing to display?

I saw on Olberman last night some video of the "terrorist" outburst and it sounds like this one is on film also. What about the "sit down boy" incident? That was shouted at a soundman, so do we have video or audio of that incident? I think a viral video of Palin/McCain rallies cum lynch mobs, especially the one involving racial hate speech, could get a lot of traction.

Anyone have the video?

I agree with CJ. Go to this link for a video on shock jock radio from Bill Moyers. McCain knows better but can't help himself & Palin is drunk with her new-found fame.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09122008/watch.html

For those that have on demand TV, I believe on Showtime there is a movie called "Bobby" showing. It's a great movie about the lives a few people and how they intertwine at the Ambassador Hotel in L.A. on the day of RFK's assassination.

Interspersed throughout the movie are actual clips of RFK making stump speeches, on the campaign trail, talking to people. That was a little before my time, but I got goosebumps listening to what that man had to say. He saw through the ugliness of what America can be; he sincerely wanted to do what he could to fulfill the promise of this country for every man woman and child. He was well on his way to becoming President in 1968. And this is why he was killed, because he represented a direct threat to the powers that be, the status quo, the men behind the curtain, whatever you want to call the shadow government we have that has been running things for the past 40 years. Then what did we get? Richard Nixon, who continued on the path that RFK was so adamantly trying to change.

Ever wonder why we can't seem to fix all that is broken in this country? Ever wonder why such a great nation can't get past things most industrialized countries have found solutions for decades ago? Ever wonder why year after year, election after election, things are promised, but never followed through?

These people have a vested interest in holding on to their power. This is why this country simply can't move forward and make real changes for the benefit of the whole.

The people that stand the best chance to make these types of changes are eliminated. That is why I stated in my above post that I do honestly fear for Obama's life when he is elected.

Last night, on John Stuart, someone interviewed some of the good citizens of Wasilla at a restaurant while they were watching the vice-presidential debate. Two of the people interviewed actually said they were praying for John McCain to die in office if his ticket wins the white house. Its scary to see how un-hinged some people have become. The interviewer asked them if they thought it was a sin to wish for someone to die. They just laughed it off.

You know things are odd when Rudy, noun+verb+911, Giuliani, is an example of reason and bi-partisan unity.

It is clearer than ever that McShame's pact with the devil, um, I mean Rove, has cost him control of his campaign. There are no guiding principles, no morality, only the politics of right now and expediency. A candidate in charge of his/her campaign would never allow the level of partisanship to reach such an incandescent, near violent level.

Consider this: If this right wing lunatics riot there's the rationale for marshall law and for bringing in the brigade of army troops now stationed in Georgia. If you can't win or steal the election then nullify it. I would believe anything these days.

I too was sickened by the Republican Convention. It looked like a Munich beerhall sans the good beer circa 1927.

How many days ago was it that the right wing were falling all over themselves offended because of the lipstick on a pig comment?

Now in the last few days we have the quasi fascism witness at the Republican convention shedding the 'quasi'. It is nothing more than hate speech.

Sarah Palin is so fucking dumb she is absolutely frightening.

Steve.
You are making a very large assumption in regards to Palin, that she doesn't agree with what is happening. I have yet to read or see anything that would have me believe she isn't anything but comfortable with the lunatic fringe of her party.

My opinion is this, the people making these comments and the people who agree with them wholeheartedly, don't need to meet and have tea to understand that they believe in the exact same things and I bet they look at Palin and realize, she is one of them. She might be a lot of things, but I promise you, she is not going to let a bunch of idiots shout hateful things she doesn't agree with. I think she loves it and that her only real issue is that she has hold back and can't say what is really on her mind.

They have a very simple strategy now. Basically cause as much swell of reaction (in this case negative and hateful) enough to draw so much attention from both the corporate media and the Obama campaign such that the latter eventually gets sucked into responding.

To me it's very similar to the manfactured Wright controversy, except that when that unfolded (and was fanned by the corporate media) the right-wing operatives didn't anticipate Obama's powerful reaction, and the impact it had on the country.

And McCain and Palin and their campaign both know what they are doing. It's all they have left.

Obama, Biden and their campaign need to stick to their path - stay calm, cool, collected, remind people who THEY are and what THEY stand for, what their plan is, and continue to get their supporters registered and voting come election day.

Would the phrase Die Amerikanische Krystallnacht be applicable here? Because if we cannot stop this at the ballot box, then the only hope for the Republic is to meet these scum in the fields, and in the forests, and in the main-streets and back-alleys of America---and wage war....

"The Republican candidates are not literally calling for violence against their political rivals..".

Don't be so sure.

It's appalling but it's also a very clear indication of how marginal these folks are.

Obama's going to win, folks, and it's not going to be close.

MACACA!

The Republican candidates are not literally calling for violence against their political rivals, but they're nevertheless standing by, saying nothing, while their supporters are shouting words like "kill," "terrorist," and "treason" at their rallies.

This is a distinction without a difference.

I think it's time for the Republican Party to hand over its "Family Values" coffee mug.

they're nevertheless standing by, saying nothing, while their supporters are shouting words like "kill," "terrorist," and "treason" at their rallies.

Treason is vague enough that I suppose the guy might be entitled to his opinion.

Similarly, terrorist has become the latest incarnation of the McCarthy "communist". Applied to all sorts of people regardless of merit.
Webster's says a terrorist can be a person with designs on overthrowing the government. I suppose that can be applied to almost every blogger here in some small way. A tragedy because it dilutes the meaning out of the word. We have no special word for those who harm civilians in order to frighten them into demanding that their governments do the bidding of the malefactors..

Kill.

Not much opinion there. He suggests murdering the opposition.

After torture has been justified and praised, I suppose I'm not surprised that Republicans endorse the execution of political opponents. Puzzled, perhaps. But not surprised. It's a natural course of their strategy.

The transformation of the world's previously-greatest democracy to a suppressive dictatorship many third world nations would look down upon with scorn.

But, by Godfrey, we'll be safe from terrorists!
Worth the price, yes?

I was in my twenties when JFK, MLK, and RFK were assassinated. I remember how disspirited just about everyone I knew, and especially my peers, felt as hope for a brighter, better future was extinguished a bit more with each murder. The progressive leaders of our generation were exterminated, and Nixon, Reagan, and the Bushs took their place. Carter was emasculated, betrayed, and marginalized by the right wing in the military and the intelligence community. Oh, excuse me. They are the right wing. I never believed the fairy tales we were fed about the assassinations, and still don't.

I have no great hope that Obama will right all the wrongs of the past 45 years, but he does represent the possibility of mitigating or reversing some of the great evil that has been done, especially in the past eight years. Like many others, I have feared for his life, and still do. However, he will survive provided he doesn't threaten the real power centers (the military-industrial-intelligence-Israel-oil complex). If he does, he's toast.

Whether one believes Obama will save us from ourselves or not, his elimination would probably signal the end of whatever little is left of our democracy.

I think these are perilous times indeed.

I think that John Henry may have been on to something above. Remember, reporters weren't even permitted to mingle with Palin's supporters.

I don't know if they are plants, but it certainly would be reasonable to suspect that the makeup of the crowd is artificially skewed. Racial hatred might well be an intentional play.

All along Obama has gambled, talking to voters like adults. Palin and McCain are talking to us like we are all rabid, feces flinging monkeys. Under the current circumstances, perpetual war and collapse of the global economy, it is sort of a national IQ test. We are being asked if we are too stupid for self rule.

-jjf

There will be violence. The people fooled into supporting the neoconservative agenda will not relinquish their institutional authority without a real fight, despite claiming to uphold American democratic values. Minorities and immigrants will bear most of the violence, but there is a chance the violence will expand to include public figures, up to and including President Obama. Prepare for the acting out of aggressive hostility to the changes made in the politcal leadership. The shock of violence causes great anxiety and will be accompanied by a desire to retaliate, which will escalate institutional violence against those who oppose the W. Bush regime.

I don't think we have as much to worry about the safety of our guy as some here have said. The Secret Service is really good at what they do and they have many, many people who dedicate their entire waking life to make sure he is safe. While we worry, they know what to look for, have the training and the tools to get the job done. I think we can rest assured that his safety is in the hands of experts that have learned a whole lot since the 60s.

I feel a sorrow for my country.

Somehow we have let mendacity and ignorance become the beacons of our great land. Those who lie, gain power. Those who think evolution is a "belief" that should be ignored, deny the progress of science for everyone, everywhere.

Look at our economy. Liars conned us into ignorance about their financial shenanigans. We the taxpayers have been told that we have to pay for their greedy ways.

Listen to the rising tide of racial discord all across the land. Shouts of "traitor" "kill him" and "terrorist" are all being hurled at
one of the two people running for president.

If, what happened yesterday at Republican rallies, is a sign of things to come, then we should all be very afraid.

I hate to be so negative. It tears me up when I contemplate the mindsets of those who would do harm to our country.

We have been spoon fed for years the idea that terrorists want to destroy our country, that we need to spend billions on increased security and wire-tapping, in order to protect our way of life.

Now we are faced with very real, very vile, very treacherous and very awful actions by one political party against another.

I'd say our democracy is in trouble. Let's just admit that some folks would prefer a dictatorial theocracy based on bizarre wing nut christianocentric "values."

They shalt not prevail, so help us god!

Ever since I watched Palin's speech at the Republican Convention, I've thought to myself that if elected, McCain should be watching his back. This woman is extremely ambitious and drunk with power.

The Ayers issue could blow up in the McCain campaigns face if this information gets out quickly. NPR did a report on this yesterday and Illinois Republicans contradict everything Palin and McCain have stated so far. If this information gets out to the MSM, and it begins to resonate over the noise from the McCain campaign, this will blow another gaping hole in the side of the "Straight Talk Express" and finally finish Caribou Barbie. The full story and audio is here...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95442902

Hey, this is the best that they have! You know that change is difficult for most people, but especially republicans and racists. I can't believe the lengths at which some people will go to scapegoat others for their own lack of intelligence, honor and compassion. That's what you're hearing from the speaker and the crowd; self defeating treachery and the worst kinds of elitists that one can summon! Sarah Palin is as much an imbecile as John McCain is a power lust relic from a twisted and forgotten era. They will be defused soon enough!

"Zinger" McC^nt and "Seccessionist" Sarah are trying to make it almost impossible for Obama to lead this country by convincing 45% of Americans that he is a treasonistic terrorist bad guy.

Of course, in the unlikely event THEY win, they too will find it almost impossible to lead the country because their surrogates called Me and my fellow Virginians 'Communists', amoungst other stupidities.

"Whipping right-wing activists into a frenzy, based solely on lies"

Isn't that how we got into war in Iraq?

What I would be interested in finding out, were the people yelling "terrorist", and "kill him" run-of-the-mill louts, or were they agent provocateurs from the campaign?

Democrats are loyal Americans. Republicans are loyal Americans. I think we have better answers, but we have to respect each other."

No, Republicans are not loyal Americans. They are Republicans first and foremost, and the Country is way down the list. First and foremost is tribal identity and their seething hatred for the "other".

Probably after that is raw lust for power.

And respect is a two way street. They'll respect us when we boot stomp their still smoldering carcasses and not a minute before. I will respect them when they decide to rejoin the species and start acting like Humans again.

I am not holding out any hope of that happening.

An old George Carlin quote comes to mind when I hear McSame + Caribou Valley Girl discuss a 'culture of life.' Carlin said that, when they say 'pro-life,' they mean pro-their right to decide who lives and dies.

Bastards,
-Z

There is a great bumper sticker at the Obama site: "Pro-Family, Pro-Obama"

If you are in a state that has a chance of going red, and if you spring for it, I recommend ordering this--but spring for the overnight or two day delivery--otherwise, the stuff takes forever to arrive and every day counts!

Hearing the crowds at Palin's rallies chanting "USA, USA" takes me right back to the "sieg heil's" of yesteryear. It scares the heck out of me. The Nazis came to power in a time of economic desperation. I, too, fear for our country.

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Wow. Yes. Kristallnacht definitely springs to mind. Rather than Hitler shouting, there's Palin sashaying sexily and intoning "New York Times"--it's worse, in a way, because it's more insidious. The right has been predicting a race riot if Obama wins. I know what they mean: only it'll be white fascists rioting.

After Obama's overwhelming landslide victory and the denazification of the US government, Palin and her ilk won't be in politics any longer. The country is tired of these rabble rousers with no ideas or plans other than attack the patriotism of others.

Necessity bids us to leave these people out of government as they have been trying to destroy it for some time and replace it with a corporatocracy dictatorship and fascist state. We have bigger ideas for our democracy that doesn't include their negativity any longer.

They had their chance and look at the results...devastating at all levels. Unregulated greed leads to self destruction and massive corruption...always. Even freedom has social regulations to be all inclusive of the population at large. Sharing, patience and tolerance are its principles...sorely lacking from the McCain/Palin types or the neocon fanatics who want to rule the world through military might who gained control of our democracy over the last 12yrs.

Selfish self centered authoritarians who lack a cohesive vision of social society. It's time for real answers...nature insists we start paying attention if we wish to survive. Palin is scum for allowing herself to act so shamelessly for personal ambition. She should begin hiding in Alaska now as we've seen enough. Enough is Enough is Enough. We're done.

I just got turned to the dark side.No racial aspect intended at all. I'm a right winger who's sick of hearing "my friends".Obama pretty much had my vote before and definately does now along with the rest of my white family.

It does look as though Palin wants to be Ann Coulter with tits.

As a woman I am ashamed and disgusted by the ignorance of Sarah Palin. She is a very dangerous woman.There are people in this great nation who are so ignorant they are taken in by her lies. If John McCain cannot control her what would happen if she were VP. She is very dangerous America please see past the heels and lipstick!!! She will throw you to the woles if elected.

MMP

As a woman I am ashamed and disgusted by the ignorance of Sarah Palin. She is a very dangerous woman.There are people in this great nation who are so ignorant they are taken in by her lies. If John McCain cannot control her what would happen if she were VP. She is very dangerous America please see past the heels and lipstick!!! She will throw you to the woles if elected.

MMP

As a woman I am ashamed and disgusted by the ignorance of Sarah Palin. She is a very dangerous woman.There are people in this great nation who are so ignorant they are taken in by her lies. If John McCain cannot control her what would happen if she were VP. She is very dangerous America please see past the heels and lipstick!!! She will throw you to the woles if elected.

MMP

McCain is a lying, hateful, pampered, elitist, self-aggrandazing, self-righteous, petulant, intellectually lazy whiner with no work ethic, originality, or significant accomplishments on behalf of the people he claims to represent -- especially veterans -- whether in 26 years as a "creature of Washington", as a failed pilot who trashed several planes due to incompetence, or as a failed student who graduated in the bottom 1% of his class (894 of 899). McCain is clearly an unstable liar, a bigot, and a coward. Based on his highly erratic behavior during this campaign, especially when crises have occurred, he is clearly unfit to serve as a U.S. Senator, let alone leader of the free world. McCain + Palin = McPain. GO OBAMA-BIDEN 2008 AND 2012!