John might have a vision, but he doesn't speak for the McCain campaign.

One of my friends is wealthy, retired, and very Republican. The other morning we were talking about the election and he said, "I wanted McCain for president in 2000. This year, I'm not going to vote for him." Whoa. My friend couldn't understand how McCain could change so much between then and now. I'd guess that he's not alone.

It was stunningly hilarious to see Cindy McCain who had made that pledge charge Obama with 'running one of the most negative campaigns in history.'

All I could think was, she must be getting high again!

McCain hasn't changed since 2000, as Bob Somerby has proven in detail. It was all a myth the his former friends in the MSM helped promote.

Dennis - I live in heavily Repug Central Florida ,and that is the same mantra I am hearing
" I always vote Republican, BUT.......fill in the excuse.
Big storm a comin'

Just wondering, not advocating but...

Perhaps it's time we had a political libel law?

Yours crankily,
The New York Crank

Just wondering, not advocating but...

Perhaps it's time we had a political libel law?

Yours crankily,
The New York Crank

Honestly, this is exactly what I predicted last spring and McCain really is a patsy in all this. He was never supposed to win. The Republican Establishment wanted a Democrat to win so they'd be forced to clean up all of the Republican mess, but wanted us to be as crippled as possible, so the Republicans could have a strong say in how things were done. And the best way to do that was to have McCain smear the hell out of Obama, thus hurting Obama while ensuring that McCain would lose.

And McCain fell for it completely. Sure, he's ultimately responsible for his campaign, but they led him into this, knowing he'd fall for it. He made a huge huge blunder by ever trusting any Bushie and he continues to make that mistake. They just want him to use all his credibility to cripple Obama and once they're done with him, they'll toss him aside like they do with all the other people they use (eg, Colin Powell). And again, I totally predicted this. The worst thing that could ever happen to Republicans would be if McCain won and actually had to fix all the mistakes that the Republicans created. They just want to party like it's 1994.

That was McCain in 2000, when he apparently had a vision for the future and a readiness to articulate it. Not anymore.

What Allan Snyder said. What McCain had in 2000 was a news media that relentlessly kissed his butt.

TBone raises an interesting subject. I've noticed that the McCain campaign has a history of accusing the Obama of everything that McCain himself could reasonably be accused of. It's a somewhat clever tactic, I guess. Make a charge against your opponent, no matter how ridiculous, and your opponent looks like a copycat making that charge against you. Obama is stubborn, eratic, a celebrity, an elitist, and is running a negative campaign. Next they'll accuse him of being an old, out of touch white guy.

Cindy is upset because she sees the writing on the wall and I think on one level she may actually be a bit afraid.

But she is in denial and trying to put this on Obama (hate to pull out that projection word, but boy does it apply here once again).

Would you want to live with that man after losing this election? What is McCain going to do?

If McCain's demonstrated hostility and erratic behavior and negativity continues in the fashion we've all witnessed it over these last few months--increase in both scope and severity--I think if I were her friend I would advise her to establish a "safety plan" now.

Honestly, this is exactly what I predicted last spring and McCain really is a patsy in all this.
When I got a load of the slate of dwarfs that the Republicans put up in what they knew would be a tough election for them I questioned their seriousness about winning. I think that McCain/Palin represent the Repubs last attempt to treat the voters like mushrooms (Keep 'em in the dark and feed 'em lots of bullshit). If it works then the GOP gets to go on with business as usual. If McCain craters and the R's lose a lot of down-ticket races as well then the party will have to through some serious re-thinking of it's methods, goals, and leadership. They are too invested in their current setup for that to be a comforting thought for them.

Well you see, when a ReThug spouts lies about an Democrat that isn't being negative.

When a Democrat makes factual statments about a ReThug it borders on assault and battery.

Tbones comment at 2:00 I don't think is far off the mark. Did anyone else notice how wooden and stepford wife looking Cindy McCain looked last night. She had a certain glazed look that sort of made me think she's on something.

It is unconstitutional to effectively force McCain to testify against himself in this way. Besides, everything changed on 9/11.

Palin has her hair down as he rallies live in PA and introduces McCain--she says that our opponents are 'afraid of the maverick John McCain is'

..."He doesn't run with the Washington Herd"...

and of course she is now 'blessing him' for serving so long and being a POW..tossing out words like service and sacrifice...likening themselves to Ronald Reagan..we believe American workers are the best in the world...blah blah...Her screechy voice is so obnoxious. It's Valley girl with a strong nasal.

And McCain just gave her a big daddy hug and said I can't wait to introduce her to the folks in Washington...and yada yada.. I'm going to be sick..

Yes, Gandalf, I did notice that last night...she followed him around in such a self-deprecating and self-effacing way--waiting for his cues--instead of just reaching out to the crowd or whatever..

And I note too he never acknowledges her or mentions her as a credible source of guidance, he only rarely reaches for her hand or gives her encouragement...

When she came on the View at the end of his interview, he remained aloof and uptight didn't even appear he was her husband--in any warm or loving sense.

What a stark contrast to the respectful, warm, honorable and humble way Obama has repeatedly been with his wife.

In 2000 McCain didn't have a long record of vociferous support for a disastrous war. War wasn't even a significant issue, the US was as at peace as it gets.

In 2000 McCain didn't have an eight year record as a water carrier for the worst president in history.

In 2000 the Republican economic ideology that McCain subscribes to was not right in the middle of being eviscerated in a way that most of the population cannot ignore.

In 2000 McCain was not, at least that I noticed, constantly confusing facts and names from the past thirty years with current events.

In 2000 we did not have eight years of ridiculously bad republican administration to undo, investigate, and prosecute.

So it isn't just that McCain changed since 1999 the world changed (as it always does). Back then it was about dealing with the aftermath of the dot com bubble, but otherwise proceeding from a solid base domestically and abroad. Today is about recovering from multiple disasters McCain was a key contributor to and dealing with multiple problems he has incredibly bad policy positions on.

On some issues, like health care, he is just as wrong now as he was then, but on many new issues he is clearly the wrong man for the job today in ways that he was not all those years ago.

Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it."

Well, it's good to see McLame was finally right about something. People have figured it out.

Isn't it amazing, how much more lucid and thoughtful he appears in the video at the Huffington Post link? Man, I thought he seemed old already... comparing the McCain of last night to the McCain of 2000 just underscores that.

This exact issue came up in conversation with some of my co-workers at lunch today. I live in Missouri, a swing state, and none of us could remember seeing a single positive ad from McCain. Ever.

That's my $0.02.

If it works then the GOP gets to go on with business as usual.

Dennis - But they can't do that. That's why the Bush Admin is effectively dead in the water. The party is over and now it's clean-up time. They want Obama to be hamstrung so that he can't do much to repeal what they did and so that he'll have a hard time at re-election in 2012, but they know that there is no more business as usual.

Beyond that, Republicans are much much more effective in the minority. They have no real agenda and just want to block ours and attack us for it. As long as they can block any significant Obama policies, they'll be well-positioned to push the country further to the right in a few years. That's their goal. The Republican leadership doesn't actually care if they lose a few elections, because none of them hold political office. They just want to keep pushing their agenda. That's why Republicans don't have any smart guys in office anymore; that's where they keep the pawns.

And after all, if Republican politicians feel too comfortable, they won't be so easy to manipulate. Losing helps them maintain discipline.

"When I got a load of the slate of dwarfs that the Republicans put up in what they knew would be a tough election for them I questioned their seriousness about winning."/

I agree with you (and I liked the mushrooms crack). However, when this endless campaign started, basically last year, I kept trying to think of a Republican pol who does have integrity and thoughtfulness, and who isn't either a total slave to some weird ideology, or totally corrupt and out for number one. I couldn't come up with anyone. Can anyone here think of a Republican pol who still has some integrity left?

Negativity is going to backfire in this campaign. It's more mourning than morning in America and people have quite enough negativity to cope with each day. For McTurd to keep piling on the dogsh*t will infuriate his base but alienate those who are looking for a bit of good news. Obama can benefit from McTurd's negativity.

Poor McCain learned from his experience in 2000, negative campaign works against him, so now he used it against Obama.

Let him learn that it is not always the case.

I can go along with the theory that the Republican party is purposely trying to lose this race, and was from the onset. However, I think they were counting on Hillary to win the democratic nod. She would have been much easier to campaign against in this race, and in 2012. When Obama took the nod, I think they really felt the split in the party would continue, but even that seems to be fading away. So, while they banked on an unlikeable candidate then fairly fractured Democratic party the Obama campaign has managed to build him up as a highly likable individual. He really does appear to be the good guy in all of this, while McCain continues attack ads that hurt him. Sarah Palin, I think, was a last ditch effort to re-split the Dems over the Hillary issue. It looked like it may work, at first, but has dwindled in the past few weeks. It seems like the old Rovian schemes, particularly those of projection from 2004 and division just aren't working anymore. Regardless of what happens in the economy, I think the Republican party is going to have a very difficult time winning the White House in 2012, but will probably start to have more success with senate and congressional elections by that time. Once all those connected with the Bush years and the current economic disaster are gone, they'll have a much better chance of gaining control, regardless of if their policy positions are identical or not.

McBush is getting desperate. McBush is an acknowledged LIAR and the sheeple know it.

Jiff
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Wow, please tell me that the Obama camp can find a video of this statement and run it over and over again in their ads.