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October 13, 2008
We Report; You Decide
TPM has a post about Fox's recent documentary about Obama. I was dimly aware of it, but I didn't know that when Andy Martin appeared on Fox, he claimed that Obama "had once trained to overthrow the [US] government." I went and looked up the transcript on Lexis/Nexis, and post the relevant parts below. But first, a bit of background on Andy Martin:
"A quick word about Andy Martin. During a 1983 bankruptcy case he referred to a federal judge as a "crooked, slimy Jew, who has a history of lying and thieving common to members of his race." Martin, who in the past was known as Anthony Martin-Trigona, is one of the most notorious litigants in the history of the United States. He's filed hundreds, possibly thousands, of lawsuits, often directed at judges who have ruled against him, or media outlets that cover him unfavorably. A 1993 opinion by the US Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit, in Atlanta, described these lawsuits as "a cruel and effective weapon against his enemies," and called Martin a "notoriously vexatious and vindictive litigator who has long abused the American legal system." He once even attempted to intervene in the divorce proceedings of a judge who'd ruled against him, petitioning the state court to be appointed as the guardian of the judge's children."
That's Chris Hayes, from the Nation. You can see some of the rulings in a few of Martin's court cases here (check out footnotes 3 and 4) and here. The last contains one of Martin's complaints, which I excerpt below the fold, so that you can see who we're dealing with.
Now for the transcript. It's from Hannity's America, 'Obama And Friends: A History Of Radicalism', aired on Oct. 5. (Video here.)
"HANNITY: In 1985, fresh from Columbia University Obama returned to Chicago to become just that, a community organizer, a job he says qualifies him in part to hold a nation's highest office. What exactly is a community organizer? After all, he didn't know what it was when he started as one.
ANDY MARTIN, AUTHOR AND JOURNALIST: I think a community organizer in Barack Obama's case was somebody that was in training for a radical overthrow of the government. You have to really stretch to believe his story that he was living in New York City. He was earning 50,000 to 60,000 a year. And he left this to come to Chicago, to a city where he knew no one, to suddenly start, quote, "organizing," unquote, people.
In my opinion, Barack Obama had already been influenced by his radical ideology and philosophy, probably had met William Ayers in New York and was coming here to lay the foundations for what he thought would be some sort of a political movement that he would be a part of.
My view is that the community organizing was actually kind of sham event that really Bill Ayers was testing him. Because the way these radicals work, they don't give you a big project until you pass muster with a small project. And so they sent him out to Chicago to see what he would do. He passed the test.
OBAMA: And I decided to become a community organizer. I organized black folks at the grassroots. It was in these neighborhoods I received the best education that I ever had.
MARTIN: He had virtually no impact in his so-called community organizing career except to lay the foundation for his future radical associations. It was then also I believe that he was exposed perhaps by Louis Farrakhan to Kahlid al-Mansour. Because while he was a community organizer that Khalid al-Mansour starts raising money to promote Obama to Harvard Law School.
So obviously, in Ayers' mind and al-Mansour's mind, Obama had proven his reliability. He was somebody that could be trusted to do what he was told. And all of a sudden, they now are going to take him to the next level. All that comes out of the years in Chicago. Obama wasn't organizing a community. He was organizing his career and organizing his life's step to the next level. That's all he did in Chicago."
I see. Obama "probably" met William Ayers in New York, and followed him to Chicago, where he could be groomed for higher things, and subjected to "tests". That makes perfect sense. Also, someone with an Arab name starts "raising money to promote Obama to Harvard Law School", apparently under the misapprehension that you can buy your way in. It's all a very clever ploy, because somehow -- via communications from the spirit plane? a Ouija board? -- Ayers et at knew that Obama would end up running for high office, and winning.
Right.
Sometimes people describe Fox News as a sort of antidote to more liberal news stations. That's not true. When CNN airs a "documentary" that presents, unchallenged, claims that John McCain is running a child porn ring from one of his seven houses, we can talk about equivalence. Until then, we have several news networks, but Fox is not among them.
As noted above, I put excerpts from some of Martin's filings below the fold. I thought it might be a good idea to provide some context that would allow you to assess his credibility. If crazed and ugly anti-Semitic ravings upset you, do not read them.
From one of Anthony Martin's complaints, included as Appendix A here:
"4. This is a civil rights law suit against a group of Jews who have acted, combined and conspired to violate the laws of the United States and to (a) deprive plaintiff of due process of law and (b) to steal plaintiff's property through the manipulation of this court and other instrumentalities of the federal government, all in violation of the laws and Constitution of the United States.
5. In 1980, plaintiff was kidnapped on void legal process, and held incommunicado, and was not released from kidnapping until April, 1982.
6. While plaintiff was absent from his property, this property was seized by the defendant Jews.
7. Substantially all of the "bankruptcy judges" who have had connection with plaintiff's property have been Jews.
8. All of the trustees appointed by said judges have been Jews.
9. All of the counsel for said trustees have been Jews.
10. The Jews speak and intrigue among themselves, but refuse to talk with plaintiff, except when they have him in chains Messiah-style.
11. Defendant Lavien has flatly asserted it is permissible for him to meet in secret with Jewish lawyers to determine how to loot plaintiff's property.
12. Substantially the entire bankruptcy court system in the entire United States is manipulated and controlled by Jewish judges and Jewish lawyers.
13. Although Jews constitute about 3% of the national population, they constitute almost 100% of the bankruptcy court judges and lawyers.
14. In almost 100% of the cases filed in Connecticut, Jewish bankruptcy judges appoint Jewish bankruptcy trustees who choose Jewish lawyers to represent them.
15. The court may take judicial notice of the fact--exemplified in this case--that Jews, historically and in daily living, acted through clans and in wolf pack syndrome to exclude all goyim from their circles.
16. Whatever they may say publically, in private Jews hate Christians, and have paranoid delusions about themselves and Christians. Jews think of themselves as a master race, or "chosen people," and hate Christians for worshiping a man whom Jews assassinated and regard as a poseur.
17. Jews work through a national network. For example, when defendant Coan wanted "help" in New York, he chose to call another Jew. When the defendants have sought help, it is always from within the closed system of bankruptcy Jews or its appurtenances.
18. Non-Jewish lawyers in Connecticut refer to the Jewish cabal, euphemistacally, as "Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves," chosing a non-Jewish, but semitic, parallel.
19. The existence of the Jewish bankruptcy clan discourages Christian lawyers from participating in the bankruptcy court process and bringing Christian concepts, values and moral standards to the administration of bankruptcy justice.
20. No sociological evidence exists that Jews have superior intelligence or any other special characteristics, other than the herd instinct, which would make them a master race or natural leaders absent their ability to combine and operate in concert.
21. The plaintiff is an honest man, who has worked hard for his property and, in the style of a Palestinian, is beset by a horde of bankruptcy Jews who are trying to steal his property, and destroy what they cannot steal.
22. The actions of the defendant Bankruptcy Jews affect interstate commerce, both generally and specifically in plaintiff's case, where FCC radio licenses, operating in interstate commerce, have been seized by the defendants or their agents.
23. The conduct of the defendants amounts to a combination and conspiracy in violation of the Antitrust laws, 15 USCA Sec. 1 et seq.
WHEREFORE, Plaintiff sues and demands judgment for damages sustained by plaintiff in violation of the antitrust laws."
Later in the same complaint:
"28. Because the defendants are all Jewish, they do not think that the American laws apply to them. Therefore, for example, defendants have schemed to deny plaintiff his constitutional right to counsel. Defendants have refused to obey rules and regulations which require full monthly disclosure of all financial transactions in which they have engaged. Defendants have only exchanged this secret information with other Jews, or tried to enter into manipulative "settlements" to steal plaintiff's property, all in violation of both the letter and spirit of the Justice Department regulation."
From an affadavit submitted by Martin, at the same link:
"2. It is obvious that since September, 1980, my property has been subjected to a massive, continuing Holocaust by Jew judges and Jew lawyers. One cannot ram a never-ending stream of Jews down a man's throat for years, and expect a person to take it. Just as the Jews claim they have a right to "fight" to avoid a Holocaust, so too a Christian has a right to "fight" (in this case through invocation of the judicial power) to protect himself from a Jewish inspired and Jewish engineered Holocaust which has sought to steal my property and to have me killed by agents of Jewish thieve squads.
3. The Jews have been running roughshod over me for literally years, since 1980, seeking to destroy and steal my property. Although I was not a Jew hater when these cases began, any love for the Jews I may have had has been dissipated by barbaric tortures inflicted on me by the Jews. I can see now that anti-semitism has a real root in the ageless manipulation, chicanery and murder by the Jews.
4. Jews killed the son of God, and seek to deny the fact, and seek to murder and loot and steal from anyone who opposes their efforts at world domination and efforts at overcoming the curse flowing from the assassination of the Son of Yahweh. There is no question that, in biblical times, Jews were the "chosen people," chosen by Yahweh to fulfill the coming of his son, the Messiah, and that Jews blew it, and killed the son of their God, and are suffering for it. They continue to delude themselves that they are "chosen people," even though that role ended 2,000 years ago in assassination, and they continue to sin, steal and blaspheme in the same way that brought about the destruction of the kingdom, and the First Holocaust. As part of their greedy, unsavory efforts, Jews have been conducting a war against me and my property for over two, and nearly three years.
5. In the war against me generated by Jew greed, Jew judges have played a leading role. They act supine in favor of Jew lawyers, enter fictitious findings of fact, seize my property and purport to permit its liquidation, jail me illegally, and seek to harass me and prevent me from exercising my constitutional right of access to the courts.
6. Like the man in the movie Network, I have had it "up to here" with lying, cheating, thieving Jews who are harassing me. I intend, and have begun, a counterattack within the law, by seeking to change the law, and seeking to have a constitutional amendment adopted which would restrict the rights of Jews to act as they do. I am a man of peace, not violence, and would never take a step of personal violence against anyone, even a Jew. But I believe the state, under the law, has the right to engage in state-sanctioned violence where appropriate to protect the state from lawless conduct. This is why I propose a constitutional amendment to seize the property of the Jews, under due process and democracy, and to distribute obscene Jew wealth to feed the hungry, house the homeless and clothe the needy.* I do not seek money for myself. I did not initiate this war, but I will complete it. I do not seek to steal the property of the Jews, as they seek to steal mine. They began the matter by seeking to loot my life's work and hard earned money, and will be called to answer under the law, as amended. Of course, history teaches that laws can be changed, and what is law today is not necessary law tomorrow. Given one more cyclical, Jewish-inspired recession, or depression, late in this decade, the climate will be more favorable for my proposed amendment to pass. Already there are stirrings in the government that the American people, and government, are fed up with Jew harassment, repeated daily on a national scale, of the same kind I have experienced since 1980.
7. I do not believe I can receive Justice from a pack of Jew thives, judges and lawyers. I have a right under my constitution (i.e. that of the United States) to a "neutral and detached" judge. "Judge" Krechevsky is not neutral or detached. He is part of a Jew conspiracy to steal my property. And I don't like it. The Jews have spat upon me, lied against me, defrauded the courts of my country, and denounced me falsely. These are known Jew tactics to loot and steal, are used by Jews worldwide, and most often result in the murder and expulsion of Jews when governments change hands (i.e. Iran). I repeat that despite the violations of my rights, I believe the rights of Jews should only be abridged peacefully, by constitutional amendment, thereby legitimizing, peacefully, the relief I seek in the long run for the hatred and abuse I have suffered since 1980 from the bankruptcy court system."
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This is the person Fox used as one of the main sources for its "documentary", without challenge or rebuttal. Does he sound even remotely trustworthy to you? We report; you decide.
—Hilzoy 2:47 AM
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I think the guy should be involuntarily committed. But then, I'm a Jew, so I'm probably part of the conspiracy.
Posted by: brooksfoe on October 13, 2008 at 3:28 AM | PERMALINK
After watching the videos of people in line for a Mccain rally, I figure there are a certain number of folks in the US who will believe Andy Martin because they are anxious to buttress a bad decision they have already made. However, I don't think this kind of stuff will sway many undecided voters. They have watched the debates, and saw no fire-breathing radical. They have seen the ads that stay on the high road despite the McCain spots. They know it is the GOP that has presided over their economic discomfiture. To decide, they have to turn on their brains a little, and Martin's rants fall flat at the slightest hint of thought.
Posted by: Richard Greenslade on October 13, 2008 at 3:40 AM | PERMALINK
Well I'm a Christian and bearing false witness is just wrong.
The same goes for Sarah Palin as well.
Posted by: david on October 13, 2008 at 3:43 AM | PERMALINK
BTW: why doesn't Obama sue the SOB and Fox?
Posted by: Richard Greenslade on October 13, 2008 at 3:44 AM | PERMALINK
If you look at the detail, and then compare, say, the Zack Ecksley story from last week, it's pretty clear that he's trying to define any kind of political organising as "terrorism".
Posted by: Alex on October 13, 2008 at 5:02 AM | PERMALINK
Giving air time to anti-Semites making un-verified and slanderous assertions about prominent African Americans, especially during an economic crisis like this, deserves investigations by the FCC.
This is not journalism, it is incitement to hatred. Incredibly irresponsible. Fox "News" has become a National Socialist Workers Party version of the National Inquirer.
Posted by: pj in jesusland on October 13, 2008 at 5:55 AM | PERMALINK
At some point, it becomes necessary to sue against this type of libel. Saying something to a group of people is one thing...broadcasting it to the world, a world inhabited by people who are already on the precipice of violence, is a crime. Is Fox trying to incite violence? Are they trying to get us to turn against each other so that there is justification for martial law?
This has to stop. Look at what happened when McCain tried to soothe the savage beasts at his own rallies...they booed at him...repeatedly.
Bad things will come from this and it has to be stopped. Period.
Posted by: MsJoanne on October 13, 2008 at 5:59 AM | PERMALINK
Everybpdy needs to send Hannity and Co. the websites www.factcheck.org and www.politifact.com
Posted by: rememberNovember on October 13, 2008 at 6:40 AM | PERMALINK
One must always remember that, in order so insult someone by way of their racial/ethnic background, that someone must possess a racial/ethnic background. However, as with most of Herr Hannity's "sources"---and I apply the italicized word in the loosest of terms imaginable, even for the fairy-tale fiction writers at FOXnoise who dare the audacity to declare themselves "fair and balanced" purveyors of journalism---the inexplicable existence of one Andy Martin can be compared in value to that of a thimble's-worth of dehydrated pigeon excrement on a Central Park sidewalk. The solution-event to Herr Martin's meaningless, vile existence upon the history of the human race, if I might be so bold as to suggest a spontaneous course of action with a guaranteed result that will eradicate the unsightly splotch of bird dung from the walkway, consists merely of a scrub-brush. a fire-hose, and a sewer-grate in near proximity....
Posted by: Steve W. on October 13, 2008 at 6:54 AM | PERMALINK
I'm sorry, I had to stop reading the transcript. I think we're on the cusp of something extremely dangerous here in the US. We've got at least a portion of a political party that is focusing not on ANY of the issues of the day, but instead on shocking the weak-minded into a hate-fueled frenzy.
We've got an economic collapse and the prospect of an environmental catastrophe around the corner. Should things get bad enough, what these people are doing is attempting to separate the easily led from the intelligent and they're making sure these "followers" are mad enough and suspicious enough and scared enough to be violent.
They are carefully and quickly making broad connections between liberals and terrorists, immigrants and thieves, and non-Christians and Satan. They are positioning dissenters as un-American, and anti-consumerism as un-patriotic. They're hitting every punch-word: socialist, communist, terrorist, dangerous, risky. Not to mention the calculated use of "Joe Six-Pack" and its echoing the Beer Hall Putsch.
I am not a conspiracy theory wacko [at least as far as I know]. But, when I see these idiots screaming their shit it scares me.
Posted by: chrenson on October 13, 2008 at 6:55 AM | PERMALINK
MsJ: McCain tried to soothe the savage beasts at his own rallies...
When I saw that video, my first reaction was to laugh at how far the man has fallen, that his own fans would "boo" something he said.
Then I started to think about it. Those people are on the edge. It will not take much to tip them. Not much at all.
Posted by: chrenson on October 13, 2008 at 7:04 AM | PERMALINK
Those people are on the edge. It will not take much to tip them. Not much at all.
I'm already seeing signs of this at the office. I have co-workers with whom I dare not discuss politics or the economy. They are literally frothing mad and ready to lay the blame for all their problems on anyone who leans even slightly left of center. Screw free speech, I'm going to keep my liberal mouth shut and just quietly pull a lever in November.
Posted by: e. nonee moose on October 13, 2008 at 7:14 AM | PERMALINK
That there are people like Andy Martin in the world is no surprise. But any news outlet that treats the Andy Martins of the world as legitimate sources should be treated as illegitimate, and should be reminded of why at every possible opportunity.
No Dem politician - and no remaining not-insane GOP politician - should go on Fox until they've apologized, in full grovel mode, for treating Martin as an authority. If asked publicly whether they're afraid to go on Fox, they should simply say, "I don't appear on networks that give anti-Semitic nutcases a platform." Period, full stop.
Posted by: low-tech cyclist on October 13, 2008 at 7:24 AM | PERMALINK
Its a damned wonder that Martin and Hannity didn't accuse Obama of being the Monster of Florence.
Posted by: lou on October 13, 2008 at 8:39 AM | PERMALINK
One of the commenters remarked "It's pretty clear he's trying to define any type of political organizing as `terrorism.'"
That's correct. Unfortunately, the United States Government also defines any kind of political organizing as terrorism -- as proven by the indictments under the Patriot Act of the non-violent protesters at the St. Paul Minnesota Republican National Convention. 8 non-violent protesters are currently under indictment as terrorists.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/rnc-protesters.html
The government of the United States of America now defines speaking out against the political status quo as terrorism. Obama as spoken out against the status quo.
Q.E.D.
Posted by: mclaren on October 13, 2008 at 8:47 AM | PERMALINK
Now the NY Times is — however tardily — giving some attention to this Martin cockroach.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html
Posted by: bluestatedon on October 13, 2008 at 8:54 AM | PERMALINK
What does Fox News use in its reference library -- "The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion"?
Posted by: Vincent on October 13, 2008 at 9:06 AM | PERMALINK
So as long as you predicate every accusation with "I believe..." or "probably" or "I think..." you can say anything you want on Fox without providing anything like evidence?
Cool. They must save a fortune in research and fact checking costs.
Posted by: martin on October 13, 2008 at 9:18 AM | PERMALINK
Fox "News" is grooming a new generation of New Authoritarians who a) do not know what the First Amendment to the Constitution is and b) if they have heard of it they cannot conceive that it protects Americans who dissent.
It is becoming increasingly clear that that Americans only think we are free. Just last month it was disclosed that years Quakers (!) in Maryland have been infiltrated and put on terrorist watch lists by state police and the FBI. The same terrorist watch lists as al Qaeda. The current governor of Maryland has issued an apology to his constituents. But the same thing was done to Quakers in Colorado and Florida.
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out
-- We must not remain silent in the face of Fox "News" and the ignorant bigots they give voice to. We must not forget what happened to the Weimar Republic.
Posted by: pj in jesusland on October 13, 2008 at 10:06 AM | PERMALINK
Another member of Hannity's "brain trust", along with Ollie North, Dick Morris, and Newt Gingrich.
Posted by: 2Manchu on October 13, 2008 at 10:16 AM | PERMALINK
At some point, it becomes necessary to sue against this type of libel.
Posted by: MsJoanne on October 13, 2008 at 5:59 AM
It's extraordinarily difficult for a public figure to sue for libel--and it's an automatic loser in the PR war, even before the public figure loses the legal case because it's so hard for a public figure to prove libel. Once they lose the case, hey, the accusations must have been true, right?
So, no, Obsms should not sue for libel, nor should the Democratic Party. McCain suing for libel, now, that's an idea I can get behind.
Posted by: on October 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM | PERMALINK
At some point, it becomes necessary to sue against this type of libel.
Posted by: MsJoanne on October 13, 2008 at 5:59 AM
It's extraordinarily difficult for a public figure to sue for libel--and it's an automatic loser in the PR war, even before the public figure loses the legal case because it's so hard for a public figure to prove libel. Once they lose the case, hey, the accusations must have been true, right?
So, no, Obsms should not sue for libel, nor should the Democratic Party. McCain suing for libel, now, that's an idea I can get behind.
Posted by: Lis on October 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM | PERMALINK
I think the guy should be involuntarily committed. But then, I'm a Jew, so I'm probably part of the conspiracy.
Apparently, I am too, and I'm not even Jewish. :)
Posted by: DH Walker on October 13, 2008 at 11:40 AM | PERMALINK
So, when does the episode of Monster Quest, starring Barack Obama, premiere on The History Channel ?
Muslim-baiting is the new red-baiting. Notice how they throw in the Muslim names to really make it juicy.
Posted by: OhNoNotAgain on October 13, 2008 at 12:25 PM | PERMALINK
I'm as frustrated as Ms. Joanne. Surely there must be something we can do to put the squeeze on the RW smear echo chambers. Fox News has to go. It will take a concerted effort. But we have to do soemthing...think people!
Posted by: Always Hopeful on October 13, 2008 at 12:44 PM | PERMALINK
Two things about this creature that crawled out of a sewage treatment plant in the middle of a moonless night:
1. With him backing McCain, there is no way that Obama will not get the Jewish vote.
2. Hannity was trying to defend his interview with this creep by saying that he often interviews people with whom he disagrees. However, when Hannity interviews people with whom he disagrees, he makes it plain by talking about all the things they've done that he disapproves of. He never mentioned any disapproval of any kind of this jerk so from that we can conclude that Hannity approves and supports these attitudes, that he regards them as normal, sort of like brushing your teeth in the morning, not worth mentioning. Someone needs to talk seriously with Sean-boy about his bigotry.
Posted by: Texas Aggie on October 13, 2008 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK
Thing is there IS na big perventage of evil Jews, about the same percentage as evil Christians, Hindus, Moslems, Athiests,and Scientologists. Anyone who thinks evil is beyond their own is insain, this guy is in fact a NATZI for real, he fits every definition. He is extremely dangerouse and I gareentee if given the rope he will hang his enemies...who are the evil ones in this world? Invariably they are the ones too loudly claiming to stand against evil.
Posted by: bill wesley on October 14, 2008 at 4:48 AM | PERMALINK
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