October 14, 2008
PALIN TO LIMBAUGH: 'I'VE GOT NOTHING TO LOSE'.... When extremist politicians with no decency feel like they have "nothing to lose," it's a scary scenario.
In an interview with conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin explained her reasoning in going on the attack against Barack Obama. Asked why she was more "forceful" than her running mate, she said: "Rush, I've got nothing to lose in this and I think America's got everything to gain by understanding the differences, the contrasts here between Obama and McCain."
She added:
"Speaking of some of those associations...let's talk quickly about ACORN and the unconscionable situation that we are facing right now with voter fraud, given the ties between Obama and ACORN and the money his campaign has sent them...Obama has a responsibility to reign in ACORN and prove that he is willing to fight voter fraud....for shame if the mainstream media were to cover this one up."
First, Sarah Palin doesn't know what voter fraud is. It's seems odd that someone could seek national office without knowing what voter fraud is, but she doesn't. (It seems even stranger than someone would talk to a national audience about voter fraud without knowing what it is, but that's Palin for you.)
Second, have you noticed that Palin has made the transition from Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric to Hugh Hewitt and Rush Limbaugh? No one even asks anymore whether Palin may someday host a press conference or appear on one of the Sunday morning shows. It's clear the McCain campaign just doesn't trust her to talk to anyone but sycophantic conservatives. It's kind of sad, really.
And third, in a way, Palin is right about not having anything to lose. If McCain comes up short in three weeks, she returns to her day job in Alaska, and she remains the darling of unhinged right-wing activists everywhere. She can say literally anything between now and Election Day, and it would likely have no bearing on her future, win or lose. The incentive for restraint simply doesn't exist.
It's tempting to think the governor does have something to lose -- her credibility, her dignity, her sense of decency, her honor -- but we are talking about Sarah Palin. After watching her conduct over the course of this campaign, serious observers know she lost these qualities a while ago.
—Steve Benen 5:00 PM
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The voter fraud line--is it either 1.) the denial stage of anger; or 2.) laying the groundwork for Republican obstructionism after the election; 3.) moonbat crazy shit?
Posted by: Danton on October 14, 2008 at 5:05 PM | PERMALINK
Palin "lost" those qualities? We have zero evidence that she ever had those qualities. Her entire career is based on vicious campaigning, stabbing allies in the back, and abusing whatever power she has for her own financial gain and petty grievances. She has shown zero interest in governing effectively.
What exactly has she lost? She's been like this since before her political career began.
Posted by: skeptic on October 14, 2008 at 5:06 PM | PERMALINK
To all you wingnuts.. here's a website that
can't be missed!
http://www.dontvoteobama.net/
Rush Limpbag is a con artist and may also happen to be the LOUDEST voice of unreason in the country.
Sarah ain't scared, but the rest of us oughta be!
Posted by: on October 14, 2008 at 5:08 PM | PERMALINK
My hope now is that Palin is coming off like such a douchebag up in Alaska that she won't win reelection in two years. So much of the junk that's come out about her is actually new that a tough Democratic challenger may be able to unseat her. There's a pretty good argument to be made that her behavior on the national stage has been an embarrassment to Alaska. Fingers crossed, maybe she'll be unemployed before too long.
Posted by: NHCt on October 14, 2008 at 5:09 PM | PERMALINK
have you noticed that Palin has made the transition from Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric to Hugh Hewitt and Rush Limbaugh?
So now she's Cheney in a dress?
...excuse me while I go bleach my eyeballs....
Posted by: Gregory on October 14, 2008 at 5:11 PM | PERMALINK
While it is already certainly in jeopardy, I believe any political future ambitions are there for her to lose if she continues to 'pit-bull' some of the nonsensical attacks she has as well as expose her lack of understanding. Switching to right-wing outlets protects her interests as such. She can be a wing-nut on Limbaugh, the audience has already been lobotomized.
Posted by: psiniq on October 14, 2008 at 5:13 PM | PERMALINK
Give me a break.
IF, and I pray that it happens, McCain loses then Palin goes back to Alaska and is defeated in the Republican primary in two years.
The only way she could ever run office again is to face the press and pay attention to issues. She doesn't have the desire to work that hard.
I don't think we will every hear from her after November 5.
Posted by: neil wilson on October 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM | PERMALINK
NHCt - I think the Anchorage Daily News agrees with you, given their editorial today. The only recent comparison to her is Alan Keyes.
Posted by: Scott F. on October 14, 2008 at 5:15 PM | PERMALINK
First, Sarah Palin doesn't know what voter fraud isAnd your evidence for this assertion is???
Posted by: John Hansen on October 14, 2008 at 5:15 PM | PERMALINK
"Sarah Palin, your conservative drive-time host from the Alaskan coast."
She's got nothing to lose, right. Since her political career may soon come to an end, why not make the transition to full-on right wing media darling and host a radio call-in show? She's got that winking, folksy charm that should work well in the 9 to noon slot.
Posted by: thepixelsuite on October 14, 2008 at 5:17 PM | PERMALINK
I think she has worked to be ignorant; but I'm not sure she's not an idiot. "Unconscionable" is a $2 word.
At the very least, she's extremely quick at learning lines and adept at using them authoritatively.
Posted by: larry birnbaum on October 14, 2008 at 5:17 PM | PERMALINK
She doesn't give a damn. And she's stupid enough to admit it. What about what McCain has to lose? What about what we ALL have to lose when you keep choosing to visit those dark places? No matter at all to Sarah Palin. No matter at all.
Posted by: iseerussiafromyhouse on October 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM | PERMALINK
John Hansen -
I believe Steve's point is that Ms. Palin is discussing *registration fraud* and using the term *voter fraud*.
These are two different things.
Posted by: Old School on October 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK
The only way she could ever run office again is to face the press and pay attention to issues. She doesn't have the desire to work that hard.
Now that she's seen Paree, I don't know how much interest she's really going to have in going back to the farm. She's been in The Show, heard the roar of the crowds, felt the excitement, and no one's gonna yank her off it and make her go back to the moosefuckers, no one!
Come 2010, I expect her to move from Alaska to New York to host "The Sarah Palin Show" on Fox.
Posted by: Stefan on October 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK
Sarah Palin is scum. Period.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on October 14, 2008 at 5:25 PM | PERMALINK
Yeah, Palin is basically in it for Palin at this point. Sure, McCain / Palin could pull off a come from behind victory, but odds are, she is starting to juice up the crazies for her inevitable 2012 run.
I hope she wins in 2012, because she will get crushed then too.
Posted by: BombIranForChrist on October 14, 2008 at 5:27 PM | PERMALINK
"First, Sarah Palin doesn't know what voter fraud is"
And your evidence for this assertion is???
Um....practically all the bilge fulminating from her mouth?
As soon as she says "ACORN" and "voter fraud" in the same sentence, that's pretty much evidence right there that she is totally clueless.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw on October 14, 2008 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK
She can say literally anything between now and Election Day, and it would likely have no bearing on her future.
Not so. She is now owned by the far right. If she were to express contrition or in any other way show a reluctance to prostitute herself for the cause, she would need to use that passport of hers to escape their fury.
The people with the most to fear from terrorists are those most closely related to them.
Posted by: Jassalasca Jape on October 14, 2008 at 5:29 PM | PERMALINK
I think the more correct statement would be that she has nothing "left" to lose.
Posted by: George on October 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM | PERMALINK
Unconscionable" is a $2 word. At the very least, she's extremely quick at learning lines and adept at using them authoritatively. Posted by: larry birnbaum
Larry, she's not an idiot in the sense that she can't find her way home at the end of the day. She's being coached and she doesn't speak to anyone but friendlies. But she's most certainly an idiot about the world at large, how the economy works, etc.
Posted by: Jeff II on October 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM | PERMALINK
"Nothing to lose?"
Well...maybe her re-election to AK-GOV.
I am SOOOOOOOOOOO looking forward to sending $$$ to whomever runs against her, in 2010.
She snuck in the first time.
The 2nd time she's coming through the front door, and I think quite a few people are going to be blocking it.
Posted by: Aynsley on October 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM | PERMALINK
"Nothing to lose?"
Well...maybe her re-election to AK-GOV.
I am SOOOOOOOOOOO looking forward to sending $$$ to whomever runs against her, in 2010.
She snuck in the first time.
The 2nd time she's coming through the front door, and I think quite a few people are going to be blocking it.
Posted by: Aynsley on October 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM | PERMALINK
"Nothing to lose?"
Well...maybe her re-election to AK-GOV.
I am SOOOOOOOOOOO looking forward to sending $$$ to whomever runs against her, in 2010.
She snuck in the first time.
The 2nd time she's coming through the front door, and I think quite a few people are going to be blocking it.
Posted by: Aynsley on October 14, 2008 at 5:36 PM | PERMALINK
Homeless people are citizens and there should be a way for them to register to vote.
Posted by: Brojo on October 14, 2008 at 5:37 PM | PERMALINK
I strongly disagree with your assertion that she has nothing to lose.
Alaska has been allowed to look behind the curtain, and the more radical she becomes the more I see people from Alaska winching at what they elected.
She has destroyed any chance she had for higher office, US Senator. She has destroyed her reputation and quickly destroying Alaska's. At the rate she is going, someone will start the process for removing her from office Nov 6th if they haven't started already. She will get ousted and be lucky to escape w/o a jail sentence.
Where to after that, Fox News ? Please, republicans are holding their tongues, but once she is gone, she will be forgotten like Dan Quayle. Her name will forever be associated with ridiculously stupid political jokes. By the time the public has forgotten her, Fox News will pass because her only attribute was some vague idea that she is pretty and that will fade like Gonzo's memory.
I predict she will do some sort of Religious TV show and eventually get wrapped up in some pathetic love/sex scandal giving the world the ultimate political punchline.
Posted by: ScottW on October 14, 2008 at 5:37 PM | PERMALINK
agreeing with scottw: think the enemies she's made back home will not be wasting this time while she's away.
Posted by: paper on October 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM | PERMALINK
I'm beginning to think that Sarah Palin is not only a very ignorant right-winger, but a very dangerous one. She's like a wind-up doll. The GOP uploads whatever bilge they want her to say and off she goes on her rounds regardless of the ramifications. I don't think she recognizes America as a democracy.
Posted by: ckelly on October 14, 2008 at 5:47 PM | PERMALINK
I'm going to enjoy seeing the GOP establishment and Palin go after each other after November. What a freak show!
Posted by: anon on October 14, 2008 at 5:47 PM | PERMALINK
agreeing with scottw: think the enemies she's made back home will not be wasting this time while she's away. Posted by: paper
Yep. Once she slinks back to Wasilla after November 4, she still has to face down a Rethug majority legislature that just found her guilty of an ethics violation. I doubt she'll try for a second term as governor.
Posted by: Jeff II on October 14, 2008 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK
First, Sarah Palin doesn't know what voter fraud is
And your evidence for this assertion is???
Posted by: John Hansen.
Clearly, neither does John Hansen.
Posted by: ckelly on October 14, 2008 at 5:50 PM | PERMALINK
"First, Sarah Palin doesn't know what voter fraud is
And your evidence for this assertion is???"
Posted by: John Hansen.
__________________
John, explain it to me and then explain how it relates to ACORN and Palin. I think you will find the assertion floating right in the middle.
HINT: The election is in November.
Posted by: ScottW on October 14, 2008 at 6:02 PM | PERMALINK
This is such a revealing assessment of her inner self-worth. This is the kind of thinking which usually leads to digging yourself an even deeper hole. Right now, her supporters may irrationally believe that she can win. But after Nov. 4, these guys will be looking for a scapegoat, and she isn't going to have a microphone to blame the Democrats.
Posted by: tomj on October 14, 2008 at 6:06 PM | PERMALINK
Personal predictions:
She either A) believes her own hype and decides to make a run at 2012, where she gets stomped by the real players and ends in Katherine Harris style trainwreck that destroys her career forever.
or B) is smart enough to see that she's toast in politics and follows her first love, the siren-song of the camera, to a Fox commentator spot.
I kind-of lean towards B because Palin hasn't shown any clear love of politics - her first love is for attention.
Posted by: Art Eclectic on October 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM | PERMALINK
She'll have a job on reality tv within a year.
Posted by: amy on October 14, 2008 at 6:17 PM | PERMALINK
It does kind of makes you wonder if Alaska's constitution allows recall elections, though.
Posted by: Randy on October 14, 2008 at 6:20 PM | PERMALINK
I think she also got a free Rush 24/7 subscription, so she's got that going for her.
Posted by: pourmecoffee on October 14, 2008 at 6:30 PM | PERMALINK
"No one even asks anymore whether Palin may someday host a press conference or appear on one of the Sunday morning shows."
Sure, I'm relieved that she and McCain are going down to defeat. But even so, the fact that the VP candidate on a major party ticket can successfully dodge a press conference is itself an outrage. It's an assault on an open, transparent political system. And no doubt we will see it tried again.
Posted by: Chris on October 14, 2008 at 6:44 PM | PERMALINK
"...a responsibility to reign in ACORN..."
That would be, to rein in -- it's a horsey metaphor.
Posted by: Mr. Ed on October 14, 2008 at 6:53 PM | PERMALINK
Palin's evangelical fervor for spreading division
in this country is both problematic and offensive.
She emulates Rove/Bush/Cheney/Steve Schmidt
and the convoluted John McCain--
who acts above-board, but who is just like them...
and has himself in some kind of straight jacket-- full of guilt, mixed feelings, regret/remorse, resentment and post traumatic stress syndrome.
However, reasonable persons know the conservative philosophy is a failed one, its economic consequences simply horrific!
Palin's ignorance and bizzare psychological need and penchant for lying
on even trivial issues has compromised any credibility. She's the BIG LIE.
That McCain and the Republicans would select her at this critical time proves similarly bankrupt.
George Bush scurries in and out of the White House with economic messages,
ensuring our feelings of gloom and doom, incapable of supportive or meaningful encouragement.
It is all clearly broken.
The only saneness comes from Obama and Biden.
Posted by: consider wisely always on October 14, 2008 at 6:54 PM | PERMALINK
She'll have a job on reality tv within a year.
Posted by: amy
The Palins would make the Osbornes look normal.
Posted by: Jeff II on October 14, 2008 at 6:57 PM | PERMALINK
The important part of that statement is the pronoun she chose:
"I" have nothing to lose.
Think about that.
Posted by: iseerussiafromyhouse on October 14, 2008 at 7:15 PM | PERMALINK
Nothing to lose? Good for you, Sarah. I am glad you are so secure. But there is a nation full of people who DO have a lot to loose, and many who have already lost more than you dare count.
After Obama wins (I pray) will you, Sarah get onboard with the work that has to be done to redirect this country back to its once-noble place as a sane and honorable leader of nations?
Will you help with all that "change" of yours?
And Sarah, thanks for adding additional irrelevance to McCain's campaign of irrelevance. You have squandered this brilliant opportunity, your tenacity, your brains, for what; to make yourself just as irrelevant. McCain doesn't even hear the sharpening undercurrent of this country today. He simply skates over us without ever touching us. You might have done better. People would have followed you. But you skated over us too, on your way up.
Of everything you don't understand, Sarah, there is one really big problem. You refuse to understand that "freedom" includes everyone, not just those you agree with, or go to church with, or vote like.
Has living so close to Russia made you forget, Sarah, which nation you really live in?
Posted by: Zli on October 14, 2008 at 7:43 PM | PERMALINK
What some defenders might say to the criticism to this is that Palin tacked on: "and the American people have everything to gain.."
But here again, this is clearly yet another example of her aggressive attempt to create an artificial
'Us Vs. Them' Scenario (American Republicans versus Un-American Dems)
She now speaks for all the American People it seems.
Posted by: iseerussiafromyhouse on October 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM | PERMALINK
What does Palin expect Obama to do about the allegations against ACORN?
Tell ACORN to cooperate with Justice Department investigations? Isn't ACORN already cooperating?
Maybe Joe Biden can say the Obama administration will fully prosecute violations of federal law. And then he can challenge McCain to say whether he will prosecute the illegal ways the Bush administration has politicized the Justice Department.
Posted by: Carl Nyberg on October 14, 2008 at 9:01 PM | PERMALINK
Sarah Palin will be reelected Governor in a landslide. Alaskans love her. Even after all this. Remember, they've kept "Uncle Ted" Stevens in the Senate for 40 years, and Congressman "Bridge to Nowhere" Don Young for nearly as long. Even when Governor Murkowski appointed his own daughter to serve out his term in the Senate, Alaskans (although pissed off at dad) still re-elected the daughter.
Part of the reason Sarah Palin is so bizarre is because Alaska is a very different and strange place. She might spend a couple of years in the media spotlight if she thought she really needed the money (which she doesn't, really), but most Alaskans are truly miserable outside the state. It is a point of honor among Alaskans to openly despise the East Coast. So I would expect her to return eventually.
Posted by: kk on October 15, 2008 at 1:27 AM | PERMALINK
Yes, the unhinged may keep her molding on the shelf. But isn't party machinery going to blame her for sinking the boat they've been happily crashing for eight years? No way she gets off scott-free here.
Oh, and what happens when she loses her looks. She could have four more "babies" by 2012.
Posted by: Kenji on October 15, 2008 at 4:16 AM | PERMALINK
Sarah Palin is a disgusting excuse for a human. She spews hatred and blatant lies. Then to say she was absolved of any legal or ethical violations? Does she think we are stupid? That's OK,keep up your disgraceful ways,then you and McCain can sit on the sidelines with your fingers up your ass wondering what went wrong.
Posted by: walkman56 on October 15, 2008 at 5:45 AM | PERMALINK
In 2006 Minnesota DFLers nominated Mike Hatch for governor because they said he was a "bulldog." The trouble is, when you're a bulldog there's always a bigger bulldog and meaner bulldog and richer bulldog ready to take you down. And that's what happened at the eleventh hour, giving us Gunga Tim Pawlenty, the water carrier for John McCain.
The same holds true for pit bulls. I cannot wait until the bigger, meaner, richer Republican pit bulls circle Palin in 2012. I might even watch a Republican debate for once.
Posted by: mumrock on October 15, 2008 at 6:01 AM | PERMALINK
"Nothing left to lose" She's lost all credibility, all prospect for a political career.
She doesn't care that McCain is ruined.
She's a "me first" not a "country first" personality. Selfish woman. Shame on her! If there was anything at all to her, she would step down and let McCain pick another VP.
Posted by: jj on October 15, 2008 at 10:34 AM | PERMALINK
Sarah Palin will be reelected Governor in a landslide. Alaskans love her. Even after all this. Remember, they've kept "Uncle Ted" Stevens in the Senate for 40 years, and Congressman "Bridge to Nowhere" Don Young for nearly as long. Posted by: kk
As governor, Sarah Palin is not in a position to do the things that the state's Congressional delegation can do. However, after November, they won't be able to do anything special for Alaska for the foreseeable future because neither one is going to have any power (they really don't have any now). Furthermore, both are under investigations/trials that they may not "survive."
Also, I think you underestimate what will happen to Palin after she's done playing VP candidate. She's a national embarrassment that make Alaska look stupid for electing her, and she's already been censured by the Republican majority legislature. They may not be done with her yet.
Posted by: Jeff II on October 15, 2008 at 11:45 AM | PERMALINK