Oh, I don't know, I found John to be warm, engaging, hard, decidedly turgid if you will......ooohhh.....damn, somebody get me a warm towel......

And, now, ladies and gentlemen for your entertainment picture McShame AND Scarah at a cabinet meeting - dare we guess who the rest of this administration would be...let's begin a fill the room contest thinking of the nuttiest most erratic advisers they could choose...might be more fun than slogging through these next days of polls up/polls down...will the BLACK matter...what's the next surprise? YEGODS...no wonder we're sleep deprived...

"Hey, Joe, you're rich, congratulations."

Yeah, what was that about? And McCain said health insurance costs an average of $5800. He might have been thinking of singles, but he combined it with his tax credit of $5000, which is for families.

Maybe by "focused" they mean "truculent".

"Hey Joe, you're rich."

McCain forgot where he was. His mind had drifted off to his moment of grandeur at Saddleback. McCain assumes that everyone is in on his dream world of scattered recollections.

McCain's perfomance was eerily reminiscent of Palin's. It seemed as if he had rehearsed certain talking points and was scared he wouldn't get a chance to use them all, so he threw them in anywhere he could, whether they were topically appropriate or not. Maybe he really has been turning to Palin for advice.

the conversations between mccain and palin must be rubbing off. he not only struggled to put sentences together, but words stuck in his mouth like a man who'd replaced his false teeth with lemon wedges.

the word that came to mind last night was 'doddering'.

"Message: I'm focused."

Rope-a-Dope. Ali's strategy worked to a tee during this, happily, last of the three debates where all saw the dismantling of a once proud, and feisty, moderate senator who signed a Faustian document to gain power he does not deserve, or could possibly manage to bring to fruition.

Obama positioned himself against the ropes and let McAce flail away with confusing rhetoric and angry ideas that have become the mainstay of his (hopefully) last campaign. Methinks, for all intents, he's put himself out of his own misery.

Oh, don't be deluded that he and the Wicked Witch from the North won't be out on the trail lambasting Obama and his surreal past ties to terrorists and college professors. No, they'll use what's left of their time in this campaign screaming hate and fear as they fearfully cling to the deck chairs as the Titanic slowly but predictably corkscrews to the bottom crashing as it hits like one of those jets McAce erratically piloted to it's own ironic version of doom.

Pathetic comes to mind. Sympathy? Not so much given the hate spewing from the collective mouths of McAce and his underwhelming VP candidate. Good riddance.

Yes, I was thinking that uncommitted voters must be assumed to be people who don't follow politics and when he brought up ACORN the first time there would have been no way to follow that without having a prior understanding of what it was.

That entire backstory of "Joe the Plumber" came out of nowhere for me and I consider myself to be reasonably well informed. It looks suspicious -- in large part because Obama's conversation happened with "Joe" Tuesday afternoon and McCain, who seems to be perpetually several days behind the news cycle, brought it up the next evening.

But if I understand McCain's main point -- that "Joe the Plumber", with his small plumbing business, will have an income of a quarter million dollars per year and so will see his taxes raised under Obama's proposals -- then "Joe" is a moron who deserves to pay higher taxes. If a small business owner shows an annual personal income of $250K, then his business isn't structured properly and he's putting both his business, his employees jobs and his family's future at risk unnecessarily.

Hey "Joe", you probably believe plumbing work should be left to professionals. So why do you think you're qualified to act as a professional business accountant?

2 most often uttered words to my wife last night in reference to Mr. McCain: "incoherent & incomprehensible.

I think McCain is getting hyper because of that energy supplement they have been feeding him!

He was medicated. heavily. my guess was Provigil and probably Klonopin-kind of like what they give Bush before his pressers.

unfortunately, nobody'll really talk about this, but is that what we really want of the person "in charge"?

Let me see if I have this right -- we should continue to run half trillion dollar deficits and make no investments in energy, education and health care because Joe the Plumber wants to buy a business, hire a bunch of employees, and make a bunch more money while not paying any more taxes, or providing health insurance for the people he hires?

Good thing Joe the Plumber is a white guy, otherwise, we might think he was some sort of scam artist trying to get over on our dime.

If a company only makes 250,000 per annum, then the salary that said plumber is taking may not be as high as that. Fuzzy math. So Joe, even though he owns a company that takes in 250k draws a salary of 50-75k based on expenditures so he does get a tax break. Unless he's hogging all the cash in which case that company won't last long.

It is hard to believe this is the same John McCain from the version in 2000. Time is a bitch and McCain demonstrated tonight that he is just too old to play at this level. He was almost out of energy by the end of the debate. I was shocked when so many pundits said it was his best performance. I thought it was by far his worst. His aggression caused my wife to go to bed early. She couldn't even look at him. He looked like a punch drunk boxer. It was embarrassing at points, almost to the level of Palin level embarrassment. We should move the election up to today, and put McCain out of his misery.

You know of course that MSM are under pressure to be deferential to McCain regardless.

Apparently America's karma hasn't reached rock bottom because if it had McBush would be leading. The guy is a crappy old fool who would be the equivalent of the U.S. tying an anvil to it's ankle and throwing it off the continental shelf. Sink, baby, sink.

McBush is everything bad that Shruby is but right up front. Before any election McBush is a completely known and frightening quantity. It ain't over yet but a glimmer of consciousness among the electorate which I had thought was lost seems to be glowing yet. Certainly generated by a profound focus on self interest but I'll take it.

The alternative is really too grim to contemplate.

McCain looked like he had slammed one to many Red Bulls before the debate. At the beginning, he looked positively wired for sound!

And his weird facial gestures at the beginning. Notes say smile - weird Joker grin. Notes say look at camera - weird wide-eyed stare. Etc. Usually in rapid succession.

John, dude, lay off the caffeine!

I still can't believe McCain had the audacity to keep whining about Obama not repudiating the Lewis comment and that he actually went on to

DEFEND comments like "Kill Him"!

First he asserts nasty things have been said to him and then he attempted to
change the criticism into something else entirely by doing the whole speil: "I stand by the folks that come to my rallies" (he's done that before--as though Obama said 'All of your supporters are losers'). And he just shrugged the comments off as being par for the course: "There's always going to be some fringe element there.."

Oh yeah? Well, he left out a tiny detail there-- interestingly enough, there didn't seem to be this 'fringe problem' until Palin and McCain comments began inciting the crowd to hate--and McCain allowed it to thrive unchecked several times in several different ways.

I think

"Hey, Joe, you're rich, congratulations"

was supposed to be something like,

"Hey, Joe, Sen. Obama thinks you're 'rich.' Congratulations, huh? He's gonna treat you like you're rich and he's gonna tax you like you're rich. But I bet you don't feel too rich when you're working 7-10 hours a day..," etc.

But instead McCain came across as _actually_ congratulating Joe for being rich, rather than sarcastically mock-congratulating him. It was a sloppy culmination of an overworked point.

I have found many Republicans to have a sense of humor that borders on meanness in that it manages to put someone else down in the process of making the "joke". They just can't help it.