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October 17, 2008

SNOB.... The Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin reported earlier on a fundraiser Sarah Palin attended in North Carolina last night. Palin, the item explained, "made a point of mentioning that she loved to visit the 'pro-America' areas of the country, of which North Carolina is one. No word on which states she views as unpatriotic."

This, not surprisingly, raised a few eyebrows. Palin thinks some parts of America aren't "pro-America"? The Post report was a paraphrase, though, and folks wanted to get the whole context.

In order to clarify comments GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin made last night at a Greensboro, N.C., fundraiser about it being in a "pro-America" area, the campaign issued a slightly more detailed version of the pool report that came out yesterday.

The upshot? Washington, D.C., is neither "real America" nor "pro-America." Other parts of the nation? It's unclear, but if you live in a small town, you're probably patriotic from Palin's point of view.

"We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. We believe" -- here the audience interrupted Palin with applause and cheers -- "We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation."

She continued: "This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans. Those who are running our factories and teaching our kids and growing our food and are fighting our wars for us. Those who are protecting us in uniform. Those who are protecting the virtues of freedom."

I don't think the context helps.

Palin seems to believe there are "pro-America areas of this great nation," but if you live in a city -- including the nation's capital -- you're not in one of those areas.

From my personal perspective, I've lived in big cities and small towns. And if Palin really believes there are two countries -- one with "real" Americans, and one with Americans who don't measure up -- Palin really needs to get out more.

Let's be clear: Sarah Palin looks down on millions of Americans who don't meet her vision of what "real" Americans look like. As far as she's concerned, these millions of Americans are to be tolerated, but they're not as "good" or as "kind" or as "patriotic" as Palin and her allies.

This is, for lack of a better word, snobbery. She think she's better than the millions of Americans who live in cities. That's not only wrong, it's un-American.

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I look down on all people like Palin who think they are better Americans than any other Americans.

And by the way, I live in a town with a population of 400 - about one-twentieth the size of Wasilla.

Enough with the big-city wingnut freakazoid snobs.

Posted by: Yellow Dog on October 17, 2008 at 2:55 PM | PERMALINK

This has been the GOP position in election years since Goldwater. Sarah just doesn't articulate it as well (or maybe she articulates it too well).

Posted by: howie on October 17, 2008 at 2:58 PM | PERMALINK

I haven't really heard this talked about, but do smart people think that this whole "real america" v. cities concept is just veiled racism? There aren't too many black people in rural pennsylvania, right?

Posted by: alex on October 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK

Let's be clear: Sarah Palin looks down on millions of Americans who don't meet her vision of what "real" Americans look like. As far as she's concerned, these millions of Americans are to be tolerated, but they're not as "good" or as "kind" or as "patriotic" as Palin and her allies. —Steve Benen

Steve, you're over thinking this. Even an ignaroid like Palin knows that their campaign is doomed. At this point, she's saying whatever the hell she thinks will resonate with the group she's in front on at the time. If a bunch of neo-Nazis came up to her, she'd probably salute them with smart "Sieg heil!" She probably wouldn't bat an eye (though she'd surely wink) if a bunch of guys in white robes came up to her and said she has their undying support.

Sarah Palin has no soul and she is the perfect Rovian tool - an intellectually empty head with plenty of perceived grievances.

Posted by: Jeff II on October 17, 2008 at 3:02 PM | PERMALINK

Um... so, isn't that elitist?

Posted by: jck on October 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK

At least she didn't say she was proud of America, like Michelle. *That* would have gotten coverage!

What? IOKIYAR??

Posted by: John McCain: Worse than Bush on October 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK

Sarah Vowell, when visiting Jon Stewart's "The Daily Show" pointed out that the East Coast - New York and Washington - were American enough for Al Queda to attack.

Posted by: KevinMc on October 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe she was just happy to be out of Alaska, among people who don't want to secede from the US.

Well, not for the last 100 years, at least.

Posted by: DH Walker on October 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

I have wondered why it's okay to malign the people who live in urban areas, especially since most of us do. Steve Chapman had a decent column about this earlier in October:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-oped1002chapmanoct02,0,556795.column

Posted by: Teresa Anderson on October 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

Quite a campaign tactic. Dissing the anti-American portions of the country when, being behind in polling, Palin should be trying to pull in BOTH the traitor and the patriot vote.

Posted by: FooBar on October 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

So true Americans with true American values can only be found in the rural heartland, while the cities are full of godless cosmopolitans. For anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of 20th century Germany, such attitudes are deeply creepy.

Posted by: davidp on October 17, 2008 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

I'm pretty sure by American, they mean Chevy Truck commercial America.

Posted by: dk on October 17, 2008 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

... do smart people think that this whole "real america" v. cities concept is just veiled racism?

I don't know - but then, I tend to think that differentiating different types of idiotic bigotry has limited usefulness.

Posted by: DH Walker on October 17, 2008 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

Seems to me that it might be worth some kind of ad campaign in the following cities:

Miami, Jacksonville, Ft. Lauderdale FLA
Atlanta, GA
Birmingham, AL
DFW, San Antonio, Houston TX
Cincinnati, Cleveland OH
Indianapolis, IN
Kansas City, St. Louis MO
(You get the idea)

basically stating: "Sarah Palin thinks you're not patriotic, just because you live in ."

Such a campaign would be no sillier than the GOP robocalls, and would have the added advantage of being true.

Posted by: David Bailey on October 17, 2008 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

Steve Benen wrote: "Let's be clear: Sarah Palin looks down on millions of Americans who don't meet her vision of what 'real' Americans look like."

Are you seriously suggesting that Sarah Palin has a "vision"? Give me a break.

Sarah Palin is a vicious, lying, power-hungry little thug who is mindlessly repeating whatever scripted bullshit the Rove Gang tells her to say.

A parrot trained to say "polly wanna cracker" to be rewarded with a treat has more of an idea of what its words mean than does Sarah Palin.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on October 17, 2008 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

I've lived in Chicago, Atlanta, and Rolla. Believe me, there's nothing magical about small town people or their values. She does need to get out more.

Posted by: RollaMO on October 17, 2008 at 3:11 PM | PERMALINK

She's not at all an a-typical Republican for thinking this.

I was wondering, though, how would you know an area that wasn't part of the "pro-America" America? Perhaps it might have a lively secession movement? One that was not shunned by its major politicians? Just thinking out loud . . .

Posted by: Jon on October 17, 2008 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK

Palin lives in a suburb of Anchorage, a city that dominates Alaska about the way Vancouver does British Columbia. By Alaska standards, Palin's very much a city dweller.

Her rhetoric sounds a bit like a Portlander praising the simple life in Klamath Falls.

Posted by: David Martin on October 17, 2008 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

This is eerily reminiscent of James Watt's comment that the electorate was composed of "liberals and Americans".

Little new under the sun.

Posted by: backrowbass on October 17, 2008 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

Think it through... when she talks about the 'best of America', she's thinking of those poor dumb slobs who still use the N-bomb to describe Obama, and those poor dumb slobs who still believe that Bush is an honorable person of faith. A new logical fallacy, the appeal to insanity.

Posted by: Maigre on October 17, 2008 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

She's divider, not a uniter. Thankfully, it appears that she is speaking to a diminishing audience. But, then that's how division works.

Posted by: AK Liberal on October 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM | PERMALINK

Since I don't meet her criteria, I guess she and her soulmate really don't want my vote.

Posted by: AJB on October 17, 2008 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

LOL, Steve. Politicians, mostly Republican politicians, although not exclusively so, have felt comfortable making this assessment of evil city dwellers for as long as I have been alive. As someone who has always lived in big cities, I have always found it annoying but it is really just a baseline assumption in American politics. The funny thing is that this sort of thing is often brought up in the context of us big city types looking down on country folk. I imagine some of that goes on but the fact is that anti-city sentiment coming from folksy politicians seems much more ubiquitous to me than any similar sentiment toward small towns by urbanites. Indeed, I suspect that the time most city people spend thinking or caring at all about the lifestyles of our small town cousins is pretty close to zero.

Posted by: brent on October 17, 2008 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

Pro-America = Pro-Republican. You know that. It was considered gospel by the MSM back in 2002.

The same as "Support the troops" really means "don't question President Bush".

However, I think it is a good campaign issue to raise -- Palin is a wingnut, and wingnuts believe that anyone who doesn't agree with them is not pro-America. I'm sure that will win over swing voters in, say, Colorado. You betcha.

Posted by: Anonny on October 17, 2008 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

Think it through... when she talks about the 'best of America', she's thinking of those poor dumb slobs who still use the N-bomb to describe Obama, and those poor dumb slobs who still believe that Bush is an honorable person of faith. A new logical fallacy, the appeal to insanity. Posted by: Maigre

They were interviewing undecided Rethugs from the St. Louis area this AM on NPR. Frustrating doesn't begin to describe it. One woman voted for Bush both times, and can't bring herself to vote for Obama simply because he's pro-choice. Yep. All America's problems boil down to that. Fucking morons.

Posted by: Jeff II on October 17, 2008 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

I view her comments as blatantly racist: minorities live in the cities (the inner cities) while real Americans (the whites) live in the countryside and suburbia. I know that is a very incorrect view of America (though small towns are far more likely to be lilly-white than larger cities) but it feeds her base.

Posted by: (((Billy))) The Atheist on October 17, 2008 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK

i think she meant "white"

Posted by: jw on October 17, 2008 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK

there's nothing magical about small town people or their values. RollaMO

I wouldn't use the word magical, but I do think there is a very distinct difference in values. In urban areas tolerance if far more important. In rural areas, there is more of a desire for everyone to share beliefs. It's as if in rural people are always in that dark alley and if you run into someone you don't know, you want to believe he/she is pretty similar. In urban areas, you find safety in crowds. It's a much more complex morality.

Posted by: Danp on October 17, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, this is typical Republican scumbaggery. Get the people in the sticks angry at the intellectualz in them big cities.

*yawn*

If this worked, McCain would be ahead. He ain't.

Posted by: BombIranForChrist on October 17, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

Have I wandered into the Onion? Seriously. Reading the Onion and then cruising into the Washington Monthly, I can't tell the difference.

Oh, sure. The straight guy for the Onion's article on the need for a new economic bubble has a more deadpan delivery. (If Benen worked on his delivery, I'm sure he could get a gig on the Onion.) But the Sarah Palin passage totally belongs next to "Man Dives Haphazardly into Conversation like a Wounded Osprey."

See Steve? Context does help.

Posted by: Karen from Albany on October 17, 2008 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

Have I wandered into the Onion? Seriously. Reading the Onion and then cruising into the Washington Monthly, I can't tell the difference.

Oh, sure. The straight guy for the Onion's article on the need for a new economic bubble has a more deadpan delivery. (If Benen worked on his delivery, I'm sure he could get a gig on the Onion.) But the Sarah Palin passage totally belongs next to "Man Dives Haphazardly into Conversation like a Wounded Osprey."

See Steve? Context does help.

Posted by: Karen from Albany on October 17, 2008 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK

Oh yeah, North Carolina is pro-American, alright. So pro-American that it raised and funded an army to make war on the United States of America and attacked soldiers fighting under the Stars and Stripes, and to this day still celebrates its treason.

Posted by: Stefan on October 17, 2008 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK

I thought that type of garbage that Palin is spewing died after 9-11 when New Yorkers proved what they were made of. Shame on her.

Posted by: g. powell on October 17, 2008 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK

Quayle spelled "potato" with a "e;" Palin wants to spell "America" with a "k."

Posted by: Steve W. on October 17, 2008 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK

In fact, since the US flag contains many stars representing such states as New York, California, and Illinois, "real america" will be adopting a new flag. They're thinking 13 stars and 2 stripes - maybe arranged as intersecting diagonals.

Posted by: apm on October 17, 2008 at 3:36 PM | PERMALINK

Dear Governor Palin,
We are sorry to hear the capital of the United States of America doesn't meet your standards for being sufficiently pro-American. Therefore, I am sure you will be relieved to hear that many people who live in and around our nation's capital are working hard to make sure you don't have to move here.

Regards,

The anti-American residents of anti-American capital of the United States of America

Posted by: tAwO 4 That 1 on October 17, 2008 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

I seem to recall that a few years ago data were circulated that showed that most of rural, wingnuttia America was the recipient of a disproportionate amount pork barrel aid and highly subsidized by urban regions of this country.
Considering how much money is sent to the noble, god-fearun' "real Americuns" livig in these regions perhaps they should secede.
I dare 'em.

Posted by: -jlinge- on October 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

Divide and conquer.
Divide and conquer.
Divide and conquer.

That's why Barack coming full circle to his origins, both genetic and political, is so critical right now: Not a red America. Not a blue America. Not a black America. Not a white America. But one America.

Eyes on the prize please...

Posted by: koreyel on October 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK
"We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America..."
When I lived in Greensboro in the 1960s, its population was over 100,000. Today, according to the city's Web site, it's 240,955. I suspect that makes it big enough not to fit Palin's criteria for "pro-American". Maybe she thought she was in Mayberry. Posted by: Cap'n Chucky on October 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

Sounds kinda "elitist" to me.
So she wants to be elected, sent to Washington to become part of the non pro-America portion of the country?

Posted by: ckelly on October 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

Most cities contain more liberals. It's hard to be a xenophobic douche nozzle when you live in an apartment building with Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, bohemians, gays, Asians, blacks, etc. etc (not to mention all that awful awful cross-breeding when those people get together and realize their differences aren't so vast that they can't f***)

Whereas so many small towns are filled with people who loathe those who'd think differently, which is why so often, the different-thinkers move to urban areas.

So in Sarah's razor-thin worldview, if you live in a small town, you're probably OK. If you live in a city, you're probably not OK, or else you'd move.

Conservatives, white and blue-collar, who live in cities don't perceive it as a bias; it's a whatever-works mentality. "Sure, wink wink, cities are awful, just turn out the vote, li'l lady."

Posted by: slappy magoo on October 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

Did anyone see that horrifying clip of Palin yesterday (or the day before) wherein she actually stopped in mid-speech and made a point to confront a protester. She suggested to her crowd (with a smile) the very sick and mean-spirited idea that perhaps security should simply leave the protester there (rather than remove him)-- in an effort to ensure that the others teach him a lesson, so that he could 'learn a thing or two' from the rest of them?!

I noted the crowd cheered and clapped at this sick suggestion.

I couldn't believe it--I was horrified.

I wouldn't be surprised if this style of sadistic, abusive shaming and humiliation that she does not hesitate to use and seems to rather enjoy is really what she habitually and routinely does when someone angers her in any fashion, any sphere-- professionally or personally.

I shudder to imagine how this carries over to her parenting skills.

Posted by: iseerussiafromyhouse on October 17, 2008 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

There is nothing "veiled" about this. "Silent Majority" bullshit only they are now the "Loud mouth asshole lying scumbag minority".

As a post 60s child it's strange to see this stuff coming up to the surface. I'm no neophyte when it comes to race in America and I've been exposed to plenty of it throughout my life. To see it trumpeted so loudly and proudly is a bit of a shock. Usually it hides sports talk and pop culture.

I've said repeatedly that this group is a quickly dying breed. The number point this out as does they rage they exhibit which is like a cornered animal.

I've been doing a bit of research about he "authoritarian mindset" of late and that there were a bunch of psychiatrists that came to America in the 30s and 40s that were shocked in the early 50s to find that what they had seen in Germany and Europe was now being echoed in the U.S. In an attempt to combat this they thought it would be a good idea to somehow seed the population with a tool that would allow people to escape the tribal/authoritarian patterns they were exhibiting. This election looks like a battle between the authoritarian mindset and those that see a greater good in large grassroots orginization and connectivity.

It's no coincidence that Obama's main tool is the internet.

In my anger and aggravation I put some hope in the idea that the McCain/Palin types are the last of a dying breed. The march of history will leave them behind and they'll be a sidebar that people snicker at.

Posted by: grinning cat on October 17, 2008 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK

I'm so confused! I live in a small town, but it's in Massachusetts. On the one hand, my small-town makes me pro-American, but being in Massachusetts makes me at least anti-American, if not outright French!

I love my country, I hate my country, I love my country, I....

Posted by: Chesire11 on October 17, 2008 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

Populist type snobbery is actually worse than that from "the elites" - it's meaner, less accommodating, and so on.

Posted by: Neil B on October 17, 2008 at 3:56 PM | PERMALINK

This just a big load of the republican "you're with us or your against America" bullshit. I just got home from Obama's rally here in Roanoke, VA. He never once mentioned an "us against them" battle. He doesn't see republicans as the enemy. Just the ones currently running things.

That's a huge difference. Obama is saying "let's work together." Palin/MaCain are saying "if you're not one of us, we don't need you."

That is why they will lose.

Posted by: chrenson on October 17, 2008 at 3:59 PM | PERMALINK

From what I have read, Wasilla ain't even that great of a place to be... an eyesore with big box stores along a main drag, with two dead lakes (thanks to Palin letting companies pollute them), neck deep in debt, etc.

Doesn't the Bible say some stuff about casting the first stone?

I thought that type of garbage that Palin is spewing died after 9-11 when New Yorkers proved what they were made of. Shame on her.

Hell no! It's been intensified since 9-11! I'm sick of it.

Posted by: Joshua on October 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM | PERMALINK

So why are we in Iraq? Osama bin Laden didnt kill any "real" Americans.

Posted by: John Henry on October 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM | PERMALINK

Palin..."made a point of mentioning that she loved to visit the 'pro-America' areas of the country..."

Sure, it must be good to get away from the secessionist crowd she 'pals around with' back home...and Greensboro isn't a 'small town'.

Jeezus, I'm sick of the fetishization of the rural life. BFE can be a great place to visit, but I didn't and still don't want to live there.

Posted by: grape_crush on October 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINK

If Palin was holding forth before an audience of flies, she would claim to be fond of the taste of shit. She tailors her appeal to the audience in the broadest and most obvious sense - Y'all are smart and strong, hold your likker like real men and are funny as hell, and y'all are gonna vote Republican, right (wink)?

Posted by: Mark on October 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINK

Palin really needs to get out more

Yeah, like out of the country with her secessionist husband, or out of the race for the Republican ticket!

Posted by: The Galloping Trollop on October 17, 2008 at 4:13 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, we know some of the parts of this country Sarah Palin considers anti-American. Didn't Joe McCain just call northern Virginia "Communist Country?"

Sarah and John can write off Arlington and Alexandria. Fairfax County, too. Rep. Frank Wolf and all those Pentagon employees in Arlington are still gagging on that one.

When these people go off script you see what incredibly dumb things they say. Problem is, most of leadership, if not most of life, isn't scripted.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on October 17, 2008 at 4:19 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, but Steve, don't you know that it's the liberals who look down their noses at the rednecks... We've had 8 years of a President who doesn't even pretend to represent me (even though you'd think after winning less than 50% of the popular vote he might reach across the aisle), and now we need Palin? Obama has shown that he is willing to listen to everybody and do what he thinks is right by the country as a whole. That is so clearly the difference between the parties right now. Democrats are trying to do what's right for the whole country. Republicans are trying to do what's right for Republicans. Here's a quote from a Wall Street Journal article the other day, describing how John Faso, a major McCain fundraiser convinced Wall Street executives to pay $ to attend a McCain fundraiser: "Several executives resisted the fund-raiser because of their own financial pain. But Mr. Fasso didn't let up, telling them, 'Obama will be a disaster for you.'" Note -- "disaster for you", not "disaster for the country." 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Alex on October 17, 2008 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK

I'd like to ask her specifically which states and which cities are: "Pro-American"-- and which ones aren't.
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She seems to be the expert, after all-- so I'd really want to know.
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Perhaps while she is at it, she can enlighten as to which race, which religion and which creed is "Pro-American".
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Inquiring minds want to know
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What a preposterous, presumptuous and inane comment.

Posted by: iseerussiafromyhouse on October 17, 2008 at 4:22 PM | PERMALINK

"A parrot trained to say "polly wanna cracker" to be rewarded with a treat has more of an idea of what its words mean than does Sarah Palin."

I have two macaws. I have never trained them to say anything, and I have never offered treats when they say something. They've learned to talk simply by listening to me. When they talk they always use their speech in correct context. Please do not malign these magnificent creatures by likening them to an intellect as limited as Sarah Palin's...and they don't drop their "g's".

I live in Chicago. I live in a wonderfully diverse neighborhood where gay, straight, white, black, young old, various other races and religions live together in a densely populated area beautifully.

My own personal experience in going to small towns, real "pro-American areas", hasn't been so welcoming. One one occassion, I was told not to bring a certain friend who was black (my white friend was ok). None of us went. On another occassion was asked to change clothes before going out to dinner. "people don't dress like that here." Apparently Saks isn't a pro-American store. When I went to visit my older sister in her small Tennessee town for her 25th wedding anniversary, the priest delivered a very toxic, anti-gay rant as his special anniversary sermon. On that same trip, I drove down with my younger sister and her family. We stopped in a restaurant on our way and they wouldn't wait on us. We sat there, ignored, and just left. We were treated with open hostility when we stopped for gas, and were warned to pass through one certain small town without stopping.

I'll keep my slice of America, thank you.

Posted by: Saint Zak on October 17, 2008 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

Palin doesn't need to get out more. She just needs to get out.

Posted by: Helena Montana on October 17, 2008 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

As someone who grew up in a fairly large city (Tulsa) with hardworking parents who taught me moral values, I am SICK of being put down by Sarah Palin.

Palin’s repeated glorification of ‘real’ Americans in small towns, and distinguishing between ‘pro-America’ parts of the country and others, is insulting and offensive. Here’s one big-city conservative who has had enough, and won’t be voting for McCain.

John McCain’s pick of Palin was a catastrophic error. Surely he wasn’t aware that Palin had such contempt for large numbers of Americans. His hasty choice has ended any chance for a McCain presidency.

Posted by: CitySlicker on October 17, 2008 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

She may be trying for Joe Sixpack, but she sure sounds to me a lot more like Joe McCarthy!
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Yikes!

Posted by: i on October 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM | PERMALINK

Palin's statements are nonsensical, but following a Bush/Cheney administration that has put on the books laws to apprehend,incarcerate, and disappear such presumed anti-Americans, I think this is one more reason that she should not be allowed near the White House-- perhaps even as a visitor.

Posted by: springfielder on October 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM | PERMALINK

The McSnobs are the worst offenders of the American spirit. They are not tolerant, they are condecending, have colorful pasts, believe in discrimination, are pro-war (anytime), etc.. Ues, they are snobs and did not get my vote......I voted yesterdau and feel great about making my voice heard. I love that I did NOT vote for her as I am a very modern woman with very traditional views with a very middle class, small town life. So go suck it McSnobs.

Posted by: wom45 on October 17, 2008 at 4:41 PM | PERMALINK

What Palin really is saying is that "you people are easier to manipulate. When we want you to vote for the rich to not pay taxes...you do...when we want someone to fight illegal wars...you send your children to die for us (not the country...just us)...when we want you to work for nothing wages in our friends factories without protective unions, you do...we can count on you to remain ignorant. with prejudice toward whoever we claim the "enemy" is, and to make sure the schools remain baby sitting institutions to keep your children no better than you. Yes I'm proud to manipulate your fears and biases and take advantage of your ignorance...hell, I'm a millionaire now from doing it with more to come...so thank you MY America."-Palin

Posted by: bjobotts on October 17, 2008 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK

Well said.

What Palin really is saying is that "you people are easier to manipulate. When we want you to vote for the rich to not pay taxes...you do...when we want someone to fight illegal wars...you send your children to die for us (not the country...just us)...when we want you to work for nothing wages in our friends factories without protective unions, you do...we can count on you to remain ignorant. with prejudice toward whoever we claim the "enemy" is, and to make sure the schools remain baby sitting institutions to keep your children no better than you. Yes I'm proud to manipulate your fears and biases and take advantage of your ignorance...hell, I'm a millionaire now from doing it with more to come...so thank you MY America."-Palin Posted by: bjobotts

Posted by: Jeff II on October 17, 2008 at 4:49 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, so it's because I'm NOT an American that foreign terrorists attacked my home on September 11?

And is that why George Bush let Osama bin Laden get away? Because if you attack New York City, you're not really attacking America? Because we're not real Americans?

Maybe she'd like to tell me which of the 341 firefighters and 23 cops who rushed into that building and died isn't the best of America. Maybe Father Mychal Judge who died giving last rites, maybe he's not the best of America. Maybe Michael Curci, who along with 10 others took turns carrying a parapalegic co-worker down 69 flights of stairs? Maybe they're not the best of America. Maybe Stephen Siller, an off-duty fireman who saw the smoke and ran 3 miles in full gear through the Brooklyn Battery tunnel to the World Trade Center, where he perished--maybe he's not the best of America? The thousands of un-named New Yorkers who handed out water, and gave people decent shoes to walk home in, and let strangers make free phone calls to tell their families they were OK, and drove strangers home as tens of thousands of New Yorkers covered in dust evacuated the city? Maybe they're not real Americans.

God, I hate this. I really, really, really hate this.

Posted by: anonymiss on October 17, 2008 at 4:59 PM | PERMALINK

I haven't really heard this talked about, but do smart people think that this whole "real america" v. cities concept is just veiled racism? There aren't too many black people in rural pennsylvania, right?

There are a lot of black people in rural, well, North Carolina for one. And throughout the South. And there's a lot of Hispanic people in rural California, and many other rural areas. Whether any of them are pro-American remains to be seen, though.

Really, though, what "pro-American" means is "votes for Republicans."

Posted by: John on October 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM | PERMALINK

I actually don't think she would tolerate the "unpatriotic" parts. That's the scary part.

Posted by: Scott F. on October 17, 2008 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK

Once this presidential campaign is over and the finger pointing ensues you're going to see a whole lot of Republicans saying for the record what a total disaster John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin has been for the Republican ticket. A number of people are saying so already.

She's just awful as a campaigner for national office. She makes one ignorant, polarizing statement after another, like a smoker who uses the butt of his cigarette to light the next one.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on October 17, 2008 at 5:42 PM | PERMALINK

It should be noted that she made these comments in Greensboro, which is in the top 5 of North Carolina's largest cities (and a part of the wider Triad metro area consisting of Winston-Salem, Greensboro and High Point). I realize by point of comparison Greensboro might seem like a "small" town, but it is by no means Wasilla or some country bumpkin town.

It is also an area Obama can expect to score many votes and will need to really win in a lopsided fashion if he can pull off the NC upset.

Posted by: in nc on October 17, 2008 at 6:43 PM | PERMALINK

To Davidp: Not just Nazi Germany, remember that Mao pitted the honest, hard working rural peasants against the corrupt, urbane, city intellectuals. Palin is such a political animal that she polarizes without (I'm guessing) really understanding what she's doing. I would be surprised if Palin could even find Germany on a map.
I live in a rural area and am aware that there is a small part of the population that shares her small minded mentality. Fortunately, most people aren't like this.

Posted by: Diane Gordon on October 17, 2008 at 7:04 PM | PERMALINK

If big cities aren't really part of America, why has the right made such a fetish over the heinous attacks that took place in DC and NYC 7 years ago?

Posted by: bucky on October 17, 2008 at 8:20 PM | PERMALINK
Palin thinks some parts of America aren't "pro-America"?

Hell, so do I. I mean, there are parts of America that elect people closely tied to pro-secessionist groups that say, literally, "God Damn America", to public office: those parts of America are, it would seem, pretty anti-America, or, at best, just plain indifferent to America.

North Carolina, not (this century, at any rate) being one of those places is, as Palin describes, one of the pro-America parts of America (which, really, describes most of the country).

Posted by: cmdicely on October 17, 2008 at 9:31 PM | PERMALINK

Wow. Is Palin attacking Dick Davis and the 20 or so senior staff of the McCain/Palin campaign who have worked for a long time lobbying in D.C.? Maybe after spending 1-2 months with them she just figured out they were anti-American and unreal they really are. And maybe she has some doubts about that old white haired guy at the head of the McCain/Palin ticket. He has worked in D.C. since the late 1970's which can't be good since that's more than enough time catch that non-pro-American and non-real stuff that people D.C. have. Just boggles the mind.

Posted by: brookside on October 17, 2008 at 9:55 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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