If McCain wins then the fact he was denounced by the press and his own party won't really matter. It will be a sad day, but there you go.

"We're now at the point where John McCain has been reduced to distorting his own distortions -- he's not only running a robo-slime campaign that is totally at odds with his previously claimed principles, but he's now lying about it, too."

Every word out his mouth is a lie, including "and" and "the."

How low can he go? It boggles the mind.

A bit OT, but there is a very strong piece by McClatchy on Hon. Sen. McCain's miltary philosophy and history.

And to think I felt sorry for him in 2000 when the slimemaster did his magic on McCAin.

Now, it's just pity for what he has become.

The asshole is terrorizing people for their votes.

Doesn't that make McCain the terrorist?

One nitpick about Chris Wallace's characterization of Bill Ayers. Bill Ayers never killed anyone. In fact, the Weather Underground never deliberately attempted to kill anyone. The only casualties of their bombing campaign were three of their own people, when a bomb factory exploded in New York and effectively ended the bombing phase of the organization.

That justifies nothing about what Ayers did. But the Ayers brand of terrorism always targeted property, not people. It was quaint in comparison to the vicious mass murder that characterizes the version of terrorism we enjoy today.

McCain had the nerve this am to insist on some twisted logic--that the 'difference' between the robocalls then is they were reprehensible in that that they were attacks on his family.

But that's not true. They were about him --they were attacks to his character and about his associations--just as the smear robocalls on Obama presently are.

BTW, I never imagined a few months ago I'd be using the word robocalls in my posts.

What's next?

I suppose that on some level of "intelligence", i.e., the folks attending McSame rallies, [who can be seen and heard on the youtube video mouthing the most incredible nonsense], you can understand the value and focus of the robo calls.

The calls seem to work on a few life forms; pond scum, rocks, and the fear based evangelicals.

Karl Rove must be sooo proud.

The most loathsome thing about McCain is his failure to denounce The New York Post for trolling schoolchildren on Facebook to dig up dirt on "what kind of mother" Michelle Obama is. The practice quite nearly borders on pedophilia. You would think McCain would take a strong stand against this sort of perversion, the stalking of the Obama's children's classmates to interrogate them about Michelle's child-raising skills. I was leaning towards McCain until now, but his silence in the face of this outrage has tipped me in the other direction.

The most loathsome thing about McCain is his failure to denounce The New York Post for trolling schoolchildren on Facebook to dig up dirt on "what kind of mother" Michelle Obama is. The practice quite nearly borders on pedophilia. You would think McCain would take a strong stand against this sort of perversion, the stalking of the Obama's children's classmates to interrogate them about Michelle's child-raising skills. I was leaning towards McCain until now, but his silence in the face of this outrage has tipped me in the other direction.

The most loathsome thing about McCain is his failure to denounce The New York Post for trolling schoolchildren on Facebook to dig up dirt on "what kind of mother" Michelle Obama is. The practice quite nearly borders on pedophilia. You would think McCain would take a strong stand against this sort of perversion, the stalking of the Obama's children's classmates to interrogate them about Michelle's child-raising skills. I was leaning towards McCain until now, but his silence in the face of this outrage has tipped me in the other direction.

The most loathsome thing about McCain is his failure to denounce The New York Post for trolling schoolchildren on Facebook to dig up dirt on "what kind of mother" Michelle Obama is. The practice quite nearly borders on pedophilia. You would think McCain would take a strong stand against this sort of perversion, the stalking of the Obama's children's classmates to interrogate them about Michelle's child-raising skills. I was leaning towards McCain until now, but his silence in the face of this outrage has tipped me in the other direction.

I would anticipate, in the event of a McCain win, the phrase 'E pluribus unum' being removed from our coinage. First, it's in Latin, which is clearly elitist, and second, the GOP clearly is out of sympathy with the sentiment expressed.

I propose Al Davis' immortal "Just win, baby!" as a suitable replacement. It takes up the same amount of room, making a complete redesign of our coinage unnecessary -- except for the Reagan dime, of course.

Of course, "In God We Trust" would be in no danger. I'm sure a movement to insert a footnote clarifying exactly which God we're trusting in would have its adherents, but there's really no room for one.

Welcome aboard, Henrietta. Sad to say, I doubt that'll be the worst of it. Still 2 weeks to go.

Thanks, M. Mudd -- my eyes have been opened. Can you imagine how the McCain people would have reacted if a New York Times reporter had contacted the classmates of one of Cindy McCain's girls to question her motherhood? Unthinkable. Yet McCain just sits back and smirks in the face of that sort of obscenity. The man has lost all sense of shame.

I don't think McCain knows the contents of the robocalls.

This doesn't absolve him of responsibility. It does show you what kinda leader he is.

McCain limits himself to working on the stuff he's thinks he's good at and finds interesting.

He delegates the rest to people who he picks. And the people he picks are unethical.

I'm so glad we're seeing this "American Hero" for what he truly is: a man so bent on power he no longer has principles to compromise. The Rolling Stone article makes the definitive case on this. Now, he's just cementing his own loss and hurting the chances of other Repubs.

Margin of victory for Obama: 20 points

converger, as I understand it, the Weather Underground was preparing its first bombing that targeted people when the bomb exploded killing three members of the Weather Underground.

At that point the group decided it would only target infrastructure and would avoid attacking humans.

From that point forward the group had a perfect record of issuing sufficient warning during bombings so that there were no casualties.

McCain has no sense of shame; he tried to sell it on eBay---along with Sarah Palin's plane. But by the time the bidding started, it had gone the way of Bear Stearns, and no longer existed.

He will die most deservedly with his honor broken, his legacy a putrefied mass of diseased excrement, and his cowardice renowned the world over.

McCain's Ayers robo-slime is not about Obama's honesty at all. Rather, it's all about Ayers' domestic terrorism, and it's all about the false insinuation that Obama has "worked closely" with Ayers in his capacity as a terrorist and killer of Americans.

" in his capacity as a terrorist and killer of Americans"? I think not.

It's about (a) that Obama did not have the sense to dissociate himself from a man with a terrorist past and a continuation of anti-American and anti-capitalist rhetoric;

(b) that Obama worked with Ayers on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and other projects that avoided funding efforts that work and instead funded "racial pride" [my words, the actual programs varied somewhat, but all avoided programs that are known to work], funded an avowed Marxist, funded some shameless pocket-lining by friends of Rezko, and achieved no net improvement in education;

(c) Obama is lying about how closely he worked with Ayers for 2 decades, which fits with Obama's lying about his close working relationships with Wright and Plfelger, and with ACORN, and his previous strong support for the Palestinians.

Obama is trying to hide the fact that his sincerest political beliefs are the farthest left of any major presidential candidate since Henry Wallace [or possibly Huey Long], that his "spread the wealth around" comment to Joe Wurzelbacker is the closest he has come to enunciating his true beliefs in this election season.

Obama's FISA vote, his adoption of an Iraq policy indistinguishable from McCain's, the endorsement by Powell, and Obama's militarily aggressive rhetoric toward Pakistan and Iran may indicate a change in his thinking/policies, but his denials of his strong leftist collaborations of the last 25 years are dishonest. As was written elsewhere, someone is being "duped" by Obama: is it his original far leftist backers, or the people who think he's close to the middle?

These Robo-Calls are typical of the free market style of the so called Republican form of the free market system. The whole business climate, war effort, disaster recovery, basics in American cultural living and delivery of services is terrorism instilled in to the electorate.

Strikingly, dazzling, and most of a calamity beyond depression or recession are taking shape; the media is embedded in this calamity complicit with this misinformation for decades are central core to the problem. The media has that capability to switch sides faster than a variable in an Arabic equation. That implies the media’s long standing cover up with the Arabs relation to Bush and Company is going to be glaring, with huge implications. Obama has not been in politics long enough to have the deep seated entrenchment Prescott Bush handed down the Bush family and it's coroporate supporters. Such as those first line Journalist like Andrea Mitchell closely tied to trillion dollar insider deals yet openly stirring conversations in the public electro magnetic spectrum contrary to the constitutional goals.

For me this is a good example of this new age in open sedition. Andrea Mitchell and Palin makes Limbaugh look like a rum dumb. But, Limbaugh has been getting away with this sort bull roar for decades. Hannity and Fox news are the primer examples of out right hate mongering with deep methodical rhetorical treachery especially when one listens to Dick Morris and Karol Rove. Those that support this menacing form of great American free speech are at the of the core problem.

America is way beyond recession, or a depression, America with the Obama Presidency, America is in “RESET ECONOMICS”. Which spells good news for the electorate, here, the fat cats stop getting the free money from our Jekyll Island born Federal Reserve System?

Poor Mathew, flailing much? Fortunately, Colin Powell already addressed you:

"We have two wars. We have economic problems. We have health problems. We have education problems. We have infrastructure problems. We have problems around the world with our allies. And so those are the problems the American people want to hear about, not about Mr. Ayers, not about who is a Muslim and who is not a Muslim"

And, if you want to keep on about Ayers, don't forget to mention that by your reasoning, Mrs. Annenberg, a major McCain contributor is not only "palling around" with terrorists, but funding them as well.

It's about (a) that Obama did not have the sense to dissociate himself from a man with a terrorist past and a continuation of anti-American and anti-capitalist rhetoric;
No, it's about not being able to prove a negative. No matter how much Obama disavows Ayers actions, it will be impossible to prove to jackanapes and concern trolls that he doesn't embrace them.
...that Obama worked with Ayers on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Walter Annenberg, a close friend of Ronald Reagan, a known communist and anti-American.and other projects that avoided funding efforts that work and instead funded "racial pride" [my words straight from the mouths of racists ...funded an avowed Marxist, funded some shameless pocket-lining by friends of Rezko but mention Charles Keating to a concern troll and they'll call it "ancient history"
Obama is lying about how closely he worked with Ayers for 2 decades, offer any proof, if you have it which fits with Obama's lying about his close working relationships with Wright and John Hagee? Rod parsley anyone?Plfelger, not sure who this is, perhaps you need to learn how to spell and with ACORN, and his previous strong support for the Palestinians. You mean the victims of the UN resolution violating Israeli apartheid state?
his "spread the wealth around" comment to Joe Wurzelbacker a line taken out of context spoken to a McCain campaign plant.

If McCain still has the capacity to feel shame Neither the candidate nor his supporters feel any shame for lies, half-truths, racist remarks, and distortions they spread. They don't even care that if they win it will be a hollow victory. They just need to win (It's a self-esteem thing)

I see MathewMarler took his head out of his ass long enough to make a statement. Unfortunately the only thing that came out of his mouth is the same fecal matter that exist where his head is.

It's about (a) that Obama did not have the sense to dissociate himself from a man with a terrorist past and a continuation of anti-American and anti-capitalist rhetoric;

And got millions from a Republican donor.

Well, I guess there's another person who doesn't have an IQ above room temperature.

If you're gonna flail about like this, can you at least use charges that aren't so mind numbingly stupid?

Trolls are abject losers -- on a par with spammers -- so there is no need to give them the "win" of provoking a response.

I doubt that McCain ever had the capacity to feel shame. I think he is, and always has been, a irredeemable sociopath with an excellent PR operation.

But the story the NYT and WaPost missed is that they work. Or, they work more than they backfire, at least.

And, to get past the uninformed mid-20th century thought of a political scientist the Post quoted, they can be targeted by ZIP code and more to focus the “work” portion and lessen the “backfire” portion.

People who decry such negativity are like those who want all “clean” news on the local news broadcast, then don’t watch as its ratings tank.

Mr. Marler, as a left-liberal who never drank Obama's Kool-Aid, I can assure you he's much more likely to be Bill Clinton redivivus on his policies (sadly) than the caricature you describe.

Irony is best brought off, Henrietta, by a light touch (admittedly not something that comes naturally to trolls of the Right). A trowel was the wrong tool for the job you attempted, and four consecutive identical posts...!

Of course, this could be some triple-fake meta-irony that I'm missing here.

Does McCain have the capacity to feel shame? Clearly, no. But does he have the capacity to feel desperation? Clearly, yes.

-Z

It sickens me. It puts him in league with the Bushies when they robo-called McCain about having an illegitimate daughter, and his mental health being iffy.

His mental health does appear to be iffy.

If McCain still has the capacity to feel shame, now would be a very good time for it.

McCain has gone far beyond the point where he would even dare to feel shame for what he has done.

He has had to self-justify his behavior for so long that there is no likelihood that he will ever face reality. The justifications have by now replaced any honor he may have ever had.

It's also ironic that MRM and the Republicans in general keep emphasizing their beleif that none of the educational initiatives funded when Obama and Ayers were at the Annenberg Foundation worked.

Given their own decades long devotion to school vouchers and the dismal overall record of such programs, this is an argument that they want to have.

Correction:

In a comment above, I criticized the New York Post for trolling schoolchildren on Facebook to dig up dirt on "what kind of mother" Michelle Obama is. In fact, it was a New York Times reporter who e-mail a 16 year old friend of Cindy McCain's daughter to determine what sort of mother Mrs. McCain was. Mea culpa.

Correction:

In a comment above, I faulted the New York Post for engaging in neo-pedophilia by trolling schoolchildren on Facebook to determine what sort of mother Michelle Obama is. In fact, it was a New York Times reporter who sent an e-mail through Facebook to contact a 16 year old friend of Cindy McCain's daughter regarding what sort of mother Mrs. McCain is. Mea culpa. However, unlike McCain, I'm sure that Obama will be classy enough to public condemn the practice of covertly contacting children to dig up information on a candidate's wife.

Btw, with respect to my last post, I have no idea how effective the programs were that the Annenberg Foundation funded in Chicago. It is my understanding that the intent of the foundation was to fund untried programs to see how well they did work with the idea that successful programs could get normal funding later.

This is a suitable practice for a privately funded foundation. School voucher programs on the other hand, have not only given equal or worse results than the public schools, they have done so at a huge expense to the public.