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October 22, 2008

MCCAIN AND HIS PLATFORM.... One more thought on Sarah Palin's interview with James Dobson. This exchange about the Republican Party platform, which includes some very conservative measures and Palin boasted about today, is important:

DOBSON: In your private conversations with Senator McCain is it your impression that he also strongly supports those views? I know that he did not oppose that platform when it was written. Do you think he will implement it?

PALIN: I do, from the bottom of my heart. I am such a strong believer that McCain believes in those strong planks and we do have good conversations about some of the details too, about the different planks and what they represent.

Some of the "different planks" in this year's Republican Party platform include a constitutional amendment to ban on all abortions, including in cases of rape or incest, and opposition to taxpayer-financed embryonic stem-cell research.

The problem is, McCain says he opposes a constitutional amendment to ban all abortions and supports taxpayer-financed embryonic stem-cell research. And yet, Palin assured Dobson that McCain is on board with "the different planks." Indeed, she's a "strong believer" that McCain "believes in those strong planks."

That raises a few possibilities:

* McCain's real positions are different from his stated positions.

* Palin doesn't know what McCain's real positions are.

* Palin was deliberately misleading Dobson.

Dobson explained how thrilled he is at the right-wing positions in the Republican platform, which he noted are even more conservative than "during the campaigns of Ronald Reagan.... There are principles there that just, I've been fighting for 30-40 years."

Dobson wants to know if McCain really believes in his platform and if Palin's right about McCain's positions.

Here's a wacky idea: maybe the McCain campaign can clarify.

Steve Benen 3:20 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (26)
 
Comments

Here's a wacky idea: maybe the McCain campaign can clarify.

I can say, a hint of sarcasm or irony, that such questioning would immediately be labeled "gotcha" journalism.

Posted by: phleabo on October 22, 2008 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK

Palin probably hasn't read the platform and therefore doesn't know what is in it.

Posted by: Johnny Canuck on October 22, 2008 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK

She's 'been doing this for what, like eight weeks?' She is on record that she doesn't answer question they way, I'd like to talk about energy - because this is important, also...

Posted by: ThatGuy on October 22, 2008 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

A Republican I'm very close to, from NY, insists that Roe v. Wade is perfectly safe, partly on stare decisis grounds, but partly on her belief that nobody really wants it overturned except a few Southern nutjobs. Palin has shown us that Alaska is actually a Southern state, with plenty of nutjobs, but McCain probably does really support Roe.

I vote for Steve's first option.

Posted by: on October 22, 2008 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

you left out a fourth possibility: mcsame doesn't know what mcsame's real positions are.

Posted by: mellowjohn on October 22, 2008 at 3:31 PM | PERMALINK

If she says those things hard enough and often enough and with sufficient fervor, God will reward her with victory this November.

Posted by: Adam on October 22, 2008 at 3:33 PM | PERMALINK

Steve's first option MAY be correct; however, we have no way of know which of McCain's many conflicting positions are his real ones.

I personally believe that the moderate, maverick McCain was the phony one. The current incarnation rings true to me.

Posted by: howie on October 22, 2008 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK

As with your previous post about McCain saying on the Imus radio show that Palin is "the most qualified of anyone recently who has run for vice president", both McCain and Palin are confident that they can say whatever they want, to whomever they want, no matter how brazenly, preposterously false it is, and no one is going to call them on it.

And the fact is that, comments on liberal blogs notwithstanding, the corporate-owned mass media is pretty much proving them correct by not calling them out on any of their blatant lies and preposterous BS -- except perhaps in brief, buried "fact checks" which suggest that "both sides stretch the truth."

Posted by: SecularAnimist on October 22, 2008 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

Steve,

The new AP poll shows things tightening significantly in the presidential race. The difference in the spread with likely voters is only 1%. Has the race suddenly tightened that much or do you think the AP poll is an outlier? TIA.

Posted by: ted on October 22, 2008 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

Which plank is the Missionary Position?

Posted by: st john on October 22, 2008 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK

"To me, it motivates us, makes us work that much harder," she told the influential Christian leader, whose radio show reaches tens of millions of listeners daily. "And it also strengthens my faith because I know at the end of the day putting this in God's hands, the right thing for America will be done, at the end of the day on Nov. 4."


----So, I guess it means that on November 5th she and her friends will wholeheartedly support Obama------

Posted by: on October 22, 2008 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

Outlier poll. Look at the state-by-state race and tell me how McCain gets to 270 electoral votes. Look at a few key Red states: Indiana (McCain has a tiny lead), Virginia (Obama has a small lead), North Carolina (Obama has a tiny lead). This would be like Obama still struggling to hold on to California, New York and Massachusetts. If you're in that position two weeks before the election, your campaign is in trouble.

Posted by: Speed on October 22, 2008 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

This is the party of message discipline?

Posted by: short fuse on October 22, 2008 at 3:49 PM | PERMALINK

That raises a few possibilities:
* McCain's real positions are different from his stated positions.
* Palin doesn't know what McCain's real positions are.
* Palin was deliberately misleading Dobson.

All of the above.

Posted by: Tomeck on October 22, 2008 at 3:54 PM | PERMALINK

Does Dobson not realize what a stroke job is ?

It's getting fairly obvious that Palin will say anything, and I mean anything to get whomever she is speaking with or at to love Sarah Palin.

Posted by: ScottW on October 22, 2008 at 3:54 PM | PERMALINK

"Clarity" on these issues is the last thing McCain wants. He needs to be able to say one thing to one group, and another to a different group. He just hopes that the media won't call him on it, which is a pretty reasonable hope.

Posted by: Glenn on October 22, 2008 at 3:55 PM | PERMALINK

At TPM in the comments about that AP poll, it says that 1/3 of the respondents were from the South. Also that Obama had a 10 point lead among registered voters, 1 point lead among likely voters.

I think it's unlikely that 1/3 of the voters will be from the South.

Posted by: tomeck on October 22, 2008 at 3:56 PM | PERMALINK

An aside: I think it's weird that Palin regularly refers to her running mate as "McCain."

Posted by: Brian on October 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM | PERMALINK

So, should the woman who has an abortion be charged with a capital crime? Should she be executed, or given life in prison? Is this mentioned on one of those planks? How come they're planks and not tablets, like what Moses got? Does God like Moses better than she likes the GOP?

Posted by: josef on October 22, 2008 at 4:03 PM | PERMALINK

@ SecularAnimist You said it "My Friend" Like that powder puff special on CNN. Anyone who lets that bitch say one more time "well they found I didn't do anything illeagle in troopergate " pass one more time without "Oh really? why are you lying to my face?" does not not get to call themselves a journalist. There is no news anymore with the exception of a few (Stewart, Colbert , Letterman ) who are not afraid to speak truth to power

Posted by: John R on October 22, 2008 at 4:06 PM | PERMALINK

Here's an even wackier idea... maybe some reporter could ask John McCain to clarify where he stands today with respect to the GOP platform in light of Sarah Palin's comments to Dr. Dobson...

Why freakin' wait for the McCain campaign to clarify? Why not just freakin' ask them while the tape is rolling?

Posted by: s9 on October 22, 2008 at 4:19 PM | PERMALINK

That raises a few possibilities:

* McCain's real positions are different from his stated positions.

* Palin doesn't know what McCain's real positions are.

* Palin was deliberately misleading Dobson.

Another possibility: Palin and Dobson are jointly misleading the fundamentalist Christian base to get them to fall in line one more time. Dobson for all intents and purposes is a part of the GOP leadership team, and no doubt knew what Palin was going to say before she said it; indeed, Dobson and his people may be among those writing her scripts.

Palin may or may not know John McCain's positions, but sometimes I think that she knows more Leo Strauss than she lets on. The Republicans have perfected the art of playing stupid as a Machiavellian tactic. Sarah Palin is next in line.

Posted by: dr sardonicus on October 22, 2008 at 4:56 PM | PERMALINK

John R--you can also tune into MSNBC and watch Maddow and Olbermann.

Posted by: Frak on October 22, 2008 at 5:40 PM | PERMALINK

John McCain has a platform?

Posted by: noonski on October 22, 2008 at 11:12 PM | PERMALINK

Reluctant as I am to give conservative columnist Peggy Noonan any credit, I must confess she said it best. Her column a few days ago infers that Palin "just....says things".

Posted by: Mark on October 23, 2008 at 1:12 AM | PERMALINK

Further to S9 above, why (AFAIK) has it taken until now for someone to press the Republican candidates on whether they support the party's extremist loony nutjob platform? And why did that someone have to be James Dobson?

Jim Lehrer didn't do it. Nor Gwen Ifill, Tom Brokaw, Bob Schieffer. And why not any of the Democrats?

Posted by: Basilisc on October 23, 2008 at 3:43 AM | PERMALINK




 

 
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