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October 22, 2008

RUDY ROBOCALLS.... Convinced that Republican robocalls can't get sleazier? You haven't heard Rudy Giuliani's contribution to the medium.

"Hi, this is Rudy Giuliani and I'm calling for John McCain and the Republican National Committee, because you need to know that Barack Obama opposes mandatory prison sentences for sex offenders, drug dealers, and murderers.

"It's true, I read Obama's words myself. And recently, congressional liberals introduced a bill to eliminate mandatory prison sentences for violent criminals -- trying to give liberal judges the power to decide whether criminals are sent to jail or set free. With priorities like these, we just can't trust the inexperience and judgment of Barack Obama and his liberal allies. This call was paid for by the Republican National Committee and McCain-Palin 2008."

The phrase "eliminate mandatory prison sentences" is missing a pesky detail. As Greg Sargent, who posted the audio, explained, "Note that Rudy claims Obama 'opposes mandatory prison sentences' for rapists and murders, Rudy is actually referring to Obama's opposition to specific mandatory minimum sentences. By dropping the word 'minimum,' he's insinuating that Obama opposes mandatory prison sentences in general."

Even by the standards of the McCain campaign and the RNC, this is insane. And given the fact that crime is not one of the key issues of the campaign, maybe Republicans can explain why it's suddenly the basis for direct-mail pieces in Florida and robocalls in, among other places, Ohio, North Carolina, Colorado, Wisconsin, Virginia, and Maine.

For what it's worth, Sen. Gordon Smith, an Oregon Republican, became the fourth Republican senator to denounce McCain's robocalls today, joining Collins, Coleman, and Snowe.

Steve Benen 3:56 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (26)
 
Comments

Honestly,

Why on earth does the McCain campaign insist on campaigning like it's 1988 and not 2008??

(not that I'm complaining or nuthin'...it's clearly going over like gangbusters...NOT! ;)

Posted by: neilt on October 22, 2008 at 4:00 PM | PERMALINK

Phoning it in...

For what it's worth, Sen. Gordon Smith, an Oregon Republican, became the fourth Republican senator to denounce McCain's robocalls today, joining Collins, Coleman, and Snowe.

My bet:

Only because they are getting email/phone call heat from their home folks.

Posted by: koreyel on October 22, 2008 at 4:00 PM | PERMALINK

Can these people be sued? Isn't this libel? Are there any lawyers out there who could answer this question? Why are these wackos allowed to just tell bald-faced lies and get away with it? I wouldn't think it would be prudent to pursue right now, but after the election, a big deal could be made of this. Hopefully, this might slow down the slime in future elections. just sayin'

Posted by: dannyshenanigan on October 22, 2008 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINK

For what it's worth, Sen. Gordon Smith, an Oregon Republican, became the fourth Republican senator to denounce McCain's robocalls today, joining Collins, Coleman, and Snowe.

Can anyone imagine anything that would simply be too shameful for the entire Republican House and Senate? Something so awful that they would all denounce it?

That a Republican candidate could do, I mean. These folks denounce Democratic candidates for breathing ... but something that would get them all huffy about a McCain? A Palin?

Because I can't.

Posted by: on October 22, 2008 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK

Where can I reach Ghoul-ianni to tell him how rotten and evil he and other republican leaders are??

Lindy

Posted by: Don Lowell on October 22, 2008 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK

Believe it or not, McCain now has a robocall out that condemns, as an infringement on free speech, Obama's robocall condemning McCain's robocalls.

I think this calls for a robocall.

Posted by: Econobuzz on October 22, 2008 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK

What are the phone numbers that are included with the robocalls? Isn't that a requirement? Does it go to a live person, or a voicemail menu? I think the people who are volunteering for the campaign need to be harrassed until they remove themselves from the mccain campaign. Slander them and force them to hire lawyers to defend themselves. Will the RNC pay for legal defense of these ignoramuses? They paid for Palin's wardrobe, but she will donate it to charity so the homeless women have something to wear them to the soup kitchens and prayer meetings and AA meetings.
peace,
st john

Posted by: st john on October 22, 2008 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

So, what does this mean? Rudy can't read?

Posted by: chrenson on October 22, 2008 at 4:30 PM | PERMALINK

As it happens, Rudy called here about an hour ago, to a mixed D-R household.

We're getting a lot of RNC robocalls, and I always hang up after I detect the robocall sound. But I wanted to hear how scurrilous Rudy would be and held on. He didn't disappoint. Word for word what Steve reports, above, with a nastily-inflected delivery, as though Giuliani were enjoying himself.

Posted by: paxr55 on October 22, 2008 at 4:30 PM | PERMALINK

I'm sorry Steve, I'm just not with you on this one. My reading of what Mr. Giuliani said was precisely what it was: an opposition to minimum sentences; a position with which I happen to agree.

Posted by: jhm on October 22, 2008 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

Imagine, you've had a long tiring day, you get home, the phone rings, you answer and you hear that whiney cross-dresser's voice on the other end. Damn effective.

What never ceases to amaze me is how the McCain campaign is targeting only the lowest of the fringe of the Republican base.

Posted by: Saint Zak on October 22, 2008 at 4:34 PM | PERMALINK

For what it's worth, Sen. Gordon Smith, an Oregon Republican, became the fourth Republican senator to denounce McCain's robocalls today, joining Collins, Coleman, and Snowe.

Note they are all from the north. Where are the southern GOP senators condemning such sleaze? After all, isn't the south supposed to be full of gentlemanly civility?

Posted by: Vincent on October 22, 2008 at 4:38 PM | PERMALINK

Was this evil secretion out of Lucifer's asshole DRESSED IN DRAG WHEN HE/ SHE MADE THE CALLS ? just wondering ..........

Posted by: stormskies on October 22, 2008 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK

Imagine, you've had a long tiring day, you get home, the phone rings, you answer and you hear that whiney cross-dresser's voice on the other end.

Need I remind you that this is a family-oriented blog?

Posted by: Econobuzz on October 22, 2008 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK

Why is crime suddenly an issue? Rudy is trying to play the "in cahoots" card. Hey, Obama is a black man, and criminals are black, right? Obama sympathizes with them, and wants their sentences reduced.

I mean if the Repubs can associate an upstanding African-American Powell with Obama only through race, why not the stereotypical 'black criminal.'

Willy Horton anyone?

Posted by: JWK on October 22, 2008 at 4:57 PM | PERMALINK


First Gov. Palin and now Gov. Rudi....
What am I? Chopped liver?

Posted by: Joey Lieberman on October 22, 2008 at 5:07 PM | PERMALINK

There is nothing unusual in this. Republicans are just fishing around for something to hook...

Look, no one really knew at the time that the swiftboat fairy tales would work. I'd guess the they might have even worried initially about a possible backlash from demeaning the heroic actions of a true war hero.

But, they took a chance because they were kind of desperate, and boy did it work.

They're just looking for another swiftboat.

Posted by: Jim G on October 22, 2008 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK

The really stupid thing is the Supreme Court says that mandatory minimum sentences (at least in many cases) are unconstitutional: The Constitution (you know, that thing conservatives/libertarian types like Giuliani claim to love) requires sentencing discretion by judges and juries to accommodate factual circumstances.

Posted by: MLE on October 22, 2008 at 5:32 PM | PERMALINK

It's the Fear and Smear Campaign -- why is anybody surprised by these tactics. Senator McCain - for whom I actually had some respect as recently as a year ago -- will do and say anything to get elected.

Now everybody, let's all get off our computers and get out there and work for Obama-Biden as much as well can through Nov. 4!

Posted by: Daniel Lauber on October 22, 2008 at 5:44 PM | PERMALINK

It's the Fear and Smear Campaign -- why is anybody surprised by these tactics. Senator McCain - for whom I actually had some respect as recently as a year ago -- will do and say anything to get elected.

Now everybody, let's all get off our computers and get out there and work for Obama-Biden as much as we can through Nov. 4!

Posted by: Daniel Lauber on October 22, 2008 at 5:45 PM | PERMALINK

The National Association of Police Associations endorsed Barack Obama and Joe Biden on September 22, 2008.

"We know [that] crime is not a local problem like the other campaign has identified,” said Thomas J. Nee, the group's president, who also heads the Boston Police Patrolmen's Association.

"It’s time to mow the lawn again, it’s time to get back to dealing with homeland security because it all begins at home," Nee said on a conference call with reporters.

Posted by: eric on October 22, 2008 at 5:54 PM | PERMALINK

Um, I'm with jhm on this. Is there any other kind of mandatory sentencing besides minimum? I don't think this one was sleaze. And I'm against mandatory sentencing.

Posted by: Joe on October 22, 2008 at 6:14 PM | PERMALINK

Keep America riled up and angry.

Inflame! Inflame! Inflame!

America is dying from right-wing inflamation.

Posted by: Zli on October 22, 2008 at 7:30 PM | PERMALINK

I hate to break it to you, Steve, but Rudy's interpretation is accurate. If mandatory minimum sentences are eliminated, then judges would be free under the federal sentencing guidelines to impose non-incarceratory sentences on any offender. Having spent two years working for one of those "liberal" judges, I tend to think that greater sentencing flexibility is a good idea, but Giuliani's characterization really is not misleading.

Posted by: JRD on October 23, 2008 at 12:44 AM | PERMALINK

Yeah, but I could sort of see how much fun Rudi had with that. Just today there was a headline in my local paper that said, "Condoleezza Rice Goes to Mexico for Conference on Drugs", but if you fold the paper just so, it says, "Condoleezza Rice On Drugs". Come on, live a little.

Posted by: Mark on October 23, 2008 at 1:06 AM | PERMALINK

Rush Limbaugh and Cindy McCain both got caught doing drugs, and both got off with no jail time. Funny how mandatory sentencing doesn't apply to rich.

Posted by: fafner1 on October 23, 2008 at 1:36 AM | PERMALINK




 

 
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