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October 24, 2008

MCCAIN'S ELITE SUPPORT IN UNREAL AMERICA.... A closer look at the most common zip codes for McCain campaign contributors leads to an interesting result. (tip of the hat to Pushback).

1.10021 - New York, N.Y.

2. 85253 - Paradise Valley, Ariz.

3. 10022 - New York, N.Y.

4. 06830 - Greenwich, Conn.

5. 92660 - Newport Beach, Calif.

6. 22101 - McLean, Va.

7. 75205 - Dallas, Texas

8. 77024 - Houston, Texas

9. 78209 - San Antonio, Texas

10. 63124 - St. Louis, Mo.

I suppose St. Louis and those cities in Texas probably qualify as "real America" by McCain campagn standards, but New York, Greenwich, McLean (a wealthy D.C. suburb), and Newport Beach sound like the kind of places where we might find some rascally elitists who aren't sufficiently "pro-America."

Steve Benen 11:45 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (36)
 
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Did someone say, "class warfare"?

Posted by: grape_crush on October 24, 2008 at 11:52 AM | PERMALINK

John McCain is human sewage.

Posted by: The Realist on October 24, 2008 at 11:52 AM | PERMALINK

63124 St. Louis is Ladue, a suburb with a median home price of about 700K: http://www.city-data.com/zips/63124.html

Posted by: Dave X on October 24, 2008 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK

Those NYC zip codes (Central Park South to north Midtown area east of 5th Ave) as well as the one for Greenwich represent a lot of wealthy, mostly older people. They've probably been life-long Rethugs but, still, it's hard to imagine even those people supporting the McCain-Palin ticket.

Posted by: Jeff II on October 24, 2008 at 11:55 AM | PERMALINK

Let me guess... these donors to "Country First" are really just looking out for number one.

Posted by: idlemind on October 24, 2008 at 11:57 AM | PERMALINK

The Texas zip codes listed are extremely wealthy subdivisions. 77024 is home to George HW Bush.

Posted by: Erica on October 24, 2008 at 11:57 AM | PERMALINK

The 77024 ZIP code belongs to the Memorial area in Houston. This one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the 713 near the Galleria and River Oaks. 41 is a resident in this area as other notable figures.

Posted by: David Ortez on October 24, 2008 at 12:00 PM | PERMALINK

And let's not forget Tora Bora, Afghanistan.

Posted by: Chris on October 24, 2008 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK

>>McLean (a wealthy D.C. suburb)

I thought those people were communists!?!

Posted by: lutton on October 24, 2008 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK

78209 is the "Old Money" neighborhood in San Antonio. The stereotypical "0-Niner" in San Antonio is an affluent high-society person who makes a lot of money and consumes fancy wines and cheeses, i.e., an elitist. Of course, at Fiesta time we're all equals.

Posted by: Bassfish on October 24, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK

10021 - NYC is Midtown Manhattan, mostly big corpoations NY Headquarters really. Most workers, including myself work in this zipcode, or close to it. So there has to be a high concentration if people claim their work address rather than home address here. Not a lot of people actually live in this address, and if you do, you're paying $4,000+ a month on average a month on rent/lease or you own the building. Just wanted to throw that piece of information out there for further analysis.

Posted by: Mick on October 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM | PERMALINK

How many of these rich donors mind that $150,000 was spent on clothes for Sarah Palin?

Or, do you think they care?

Posted by: phoebes in santa fe on October 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM | PERMALINK

And he flew to that interview on his "private " jet. But it was just an average private jet.

Posted by: John R on October 24, 2008 at 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

Jeff and Mick are a bit off on the Manhattan zip codes. They don't include the Village or Central Park South. They cover the east side (east of Fifth Avenue) from 50th Street to 80th Street, so parts of midtown and the Upper East Side, but 10021 is actually the further north of the two. They'd simply include a lot a wealth, such as the brownstones and mansions off Fifth and apartments along Park Avenue. It's the neighborhood running past Bloomingdales and the Frick Collection up to within a block or two of the Met. Toward the north end, as you go further east, less accessible to the park and the subway, there is a higher concentration of young people, but even there rising prices have forced what might be called a Wall Street type's bar crowd down south of Murray Hill recently. Anyhow, basically it's just, as someone said, class war: money talks.

Posted by: JohnH on October 24, 2008 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK

Paradise Valley is without a doubt the wealthiest part of Phoenix. Which means it's the wealthiest part of Arizona. _Huge_ homes.

Posted by: Gold Star for Robot Boy on October 24, 2008 at 12:14 PM | PERMALINK

newport beach is incredibly wealthy as well, with a community of millionaires living around the harbor and on the hills overlooking the beach.

Posted by: dave fouser on October 24, 2008 at 12:24 PM | PERMALINK

It shouldn't be too surprising that the top donors are from places with lots of people and lots of money. Of course, this money from donors in New York, Connecticut, and California goes to paying for ads in Indiana, Missouri, and North Carolina. Sounds like creeping socialism to me.

Posted by: lylebot on October 24, 2008 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK

7. 75205 - Dallas, Texas

75205 is actually Highland Park/University Park, Texas (although a tiny sliver of Dallas is in that zipcode). I quote:

Highland Park is a town in central Dallas County, Texas, United States. The population was 8,842 at the 2000 census. Located between the Dallas North Tollway and U.S. Route 75 (North Central Expressway), four miles north of downtown Dallas.
It is the 41st wealthiest city in the United States and the 19th wealthiest city with a population of over 1,000. Highland Park is the 3rd wealthiest location in Texas by per capita income.
Highland Park is bordered on the south, east and west by Dallas and on the north by University Park. Highland Park and University Park together comprise the Park Cities.
Addresses in Highland Park use "Dallas, Texas" as the city designation; addresses do not have "Highland Park, Texas" designations [1].
It's where all the rich people who shop at Nieman's live!

max
['Talk about you're concentration of wealth. Sheesh.']

Posted by: max on October 24, 2008 at 12:32 PM | PERMALINK

"sante fe: How many of these rich donors mind that $150,000 was spent on clothes for Sarah Palin?

Or, do you think they care?"

It's all relative, to me it's a crazy amount of money to spend, to others it could be chump change, 'so what's the big fuss?'

Real life scenario that I know of:

You are the Director of a hedge fund. Your net worth is just over a billion. Your admin assitant is qualified to run her own company; she takes care of all the details for you so you aren't bothered by the small details. You don't even know how to operate half the technology in your office because her staff does it for you. You can't remember the last time you had to actually dial a number, and when you're forced to take your own calls you get really upset.

You send a car to pick up your wife so she can take the kids shopping, she charges it all to an American Express Black card.

The budget that you approved for lunch for an office of 50 people is 2,000+ per day.

When your company is down 10% for Q1, it's quite possible that 10% is equal to the GDP for some countries.

So when someone in this position sees the 150,000 number on clothes, they would see it as an investment. If McCain wins, it was a good investment, if not, it was very foolish. Money is just a means to an end, not a matter of daily living. And 150,000? Your budget on lunch for your office of 50 poeple per year is 280,000. Chump change.

The last thing private equity firms would want are regulations in a system that has next to zero regulations. Of course you're donating to McCain.

Posted by: Mick on October 24, 2008 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

63124 St. Louis is Ladue, a suburb with a median home price of about 700K: http://www.city-data.com/zips/63124.html
Posted by: Dave X

I currently live in St.Louis and Ladue is the posh ultra-elite part of the city. It's also the only place in St.Louis where you'll find the Saks Fifth Ave. store where the RNC supposedly got got Palins clothes from. Driving around the area you'll find loads of McCain/Palin bumper stickers (many on Hummers and Benzes)and yard signs. The elites know Palin is dumber than a load of bricks and could care less. The wealthy are only too happy to be branded so long as they get to continue using the culture war to get the poor rednecks' vote...and later what's left of the rednecks' money.

Posted by: on October 24, 2008 at 12:39 PM | PERMALINK

77024 - This seems bogus, the place is hardly populated and is only 2 square miles. It is not the home of GH Bush. There is some money, but not even close to the top Houston money. It's a fricken village.
________________________________

Population in July 2007: 4,539

Estimated median household income in 2007:
Hunters Creek Village $200,800
Texas: $47,548

Estimated median house/condo value in 2007:
Hunters Creek Village $887,300
Texas: $120,900

Races in Hunters Creek Village:
* White Non-Hispanic (90.3%)
* Hispanic (3.6%)
* Chinese (1.6%)
* Asian Indian (1.6%)
* Two or more races (0.9%)
* Korean (0.8%)

Land area: 1.94 square miles.

Source: http://www.city-data.com/city/Hunters-Creek-Village-Texas.html

Posted by: ScottW on October 24, 2008 at 12:42 PM | PERMALINK

I used to teach in McLean and there's nothing "real" about the people in that community. :-) Certainly can't live there on a teacher's salary.

And Paradise Valley is where people in Arizona move to when they get too rich and "elite" to live in Scottsdale.

Posted by: Tim on October 24, 2008 at 12:44 PM | PERMALINK

"from 50th Street to 80th Street, so parts of midtown and the Upper East Side, but 10021 is actually the further north of the two."

I didn't realize 10021 went that far up. If that's the case it's a lot of old money in this zip code.

Posted by: Mick on October 24, 2008 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK

How embarrassed am I!

Posted by: Duke a' South Texas on October 24, 2008 at 12:50 PM | PERMALINK

Another thing about Ladue: you've got to figure that some Anheuser-Busch execs live there, who have connections to the McCains thanks to Cindy's beer distributorship.

Posted by: Patience on October 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM | PERMALINK

I grew up in 10021. My parents still live there, but their zipcode is now 10075. 10021 was broken up into three zipcodes last year. The northern part of 10021 became 10075, and the southern part became 10065, while the middle remained 10021.

10021 (and 10065 + 10075) is the old "Silk Stocking District" and one of the last GOP strongholds in Manhattan. From the late 1970s, when Ed Koch gave up the House seat to become Mayor of NY, the area was represented in Congress by Bill Green, one of the last Rockefeller republicans. He was voted out in 1992 during the Clinton wave, and replaced by Democrat Caroline Maloney. For a few more cycles, the state senator was Roy M. Goodman, the real last of the Rockefeller Republicans. Goodman left his seat after a series of elections with diminishing margins of victory, and he became New York City's United Nations commisioner under Bloomberg. The area is now represented in the New York Senate by the progressive Liz Kruger.

Posted by: Jules on October 24, 2008 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK

Newport Beach is no surprise. Extremely conservative.

A funny tidbit--they have an outdoor shopping mall called "Fashion Island" that's beautiful but full of so many expensive trendy boutiques frequented by many botox pumped folks adorned in Gucci and Valentino who proudly showcase their pedigree pets as they stroll the promenade.

As such, it's jokingly referred to by progressive locals (such as those in Laguna Beach) as: "Fascist Island".

Posted by: on October 24, 2008 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK

They don't include the Village or Central Park South. Posted by: JohnH

John, that's Greenwich as in Connecticut (look at the list), not the Village. I lived on W.95th, just off CPW, 10025.

Posted by: Jeff II on October 24, 2008 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

If you don't see 45243 on the list it means that the Bush folks aren't doing much for Mac. That part of Cinti. was a key zip for W in 00 and 08. I'm a 10022 for Obama.

Posted by: wren on October 24, 2008 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, I live in Newport Beach and we have more than "rascally elitists" here.

Unfortunately, we also have a smattering of "racially elitists."

Posted by: Curtis E. Mayle on October 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM | PERMALINK

I live in 22101. It used to be the GOP stronghold of NoVA. But, as NoVa turns more blue, even McLean is turning purple. My block has three Obama signs and one McCain and Gillmore sigh (the ridiculous one that says "Drill Here, Drill Now"... Am I allowed to auger his lawn by following the order to "drill here"?) A check of contributions shows an even split in number of McCain and Obama contributors, but more money for McCain. (To be fair the block has a number of registered lobbyists who can't don't donate to Obama, so that skews things.

McLean is still red, but its not what it used to be. McCain is in trouble.

Posted by: do on October 24, 2008 at 2:08 PM | PERMALINK

I live in 10021. It is a rich zip. I think the richest in the US. It goes from the park to the river so not everyone is wealthy.

Not surprised it is #1 for McCain. I'ma sure it is the same or close for Obama.

Posted by: on October 24, 2008 at 2:20 PM | PERMALINK

Oh yeah, those real American's living in Highland Park in Dallas and the Alamo Heights area of San Antonio are truly down to earth plain folk. Texas Favorite Son, W., just bought a $15,000,000 dollar home in Highland Park. I'm sure it's next to a trailer park. Elitist is a term that really doesn't quite describe the arrogance of McCain and his "friends."

Posted by: Paul on October 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, there are only five Democrats in Greenwich, CT, and there are none in Newport Beach, capitol of Orangutang County, CA. But, having been to both places, I can assure anyone who hasn't that they are very, very, "unreal."

Posted by: TCinLA on October 24, 2008 at 3:43 PM | PERMALINK

Just echoing max on the 75205 zip in Dallas. HP is both one of the richest areas of Dallas (and for damned sure, the whitest)and one of the most conservative. Most of the Hunt family lives in it (the others are mostly in 75225 (University Park), Perot's family, the Crows, Jerry Jones, and on and on. As an aside, it's mildly interesting that they're almost all members of the same church (HP Presbyterian.)

I was just back in Dallas for my brother's funeral, and hung out with his friends. They are mostly in the financial, real estate, and 'awl bidness' sectors and rabidly conservative. Rabidly libertarian wtih a touch of racism thrown in might better describe it (but then it pretty well describes the Repugs as well....) Not much of a surprise that it's a big McCain money pump.

The interesting thing was seeing a poll several weeks ago that indicated growing support in North Dallas (incl the Park Cities) for Obama and Dems in general. Obviously, given my experience, it's not affecting everyone, but does show the blue-ing of Texas is, indeed, proceeding.

Posted by: Reddragyn on October 24, 2008 at 5:49 PM | PERMALINK

Regarding Houston, the ZIP code 77024 incorporates most of what is known as the "Memorial area" (after Memorial Drive, which runs through it) or the "Villages." Four villages - Bunker Hill Village, Hedwig Village, Hunters Creek Village, and Piney Point Village - are located in 77024. (Two more Villages, Hilshire Village and Spring Valley Village, are mostly in the adjoining ZIP code, 77055). The Villages are small incorporated cities that are completely surrounded by the City of Houston.

Along with River Oaks (77019), the Memorial area is one of the wealthiest areas in Texas. In particular, the four Villages in 77024 are all in the top 20 places in Texas for per capita income. This area may or may not be "real America," but it certainly isn't "typical America."

(By the way, George H.W. Bush does not live in the Memorial area; he lives in River Oaks.)

Posted by: Kenneth Fair on October 24, 2008 at 6:14 PM | PERMALINK




 

 
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