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October 24, 2008

DUMBEST. CAMPAIGN OBSERVATION. EVER.... I've been reluctant to comment on the incident regarding Ashley Todd, because it seems there are a variety of unanswered questions about what, exactly, transpired. Todd, as you may have heard, is a McCain campaign volunteer who claims to have been robbed and beaten in Pittsburgh by a large black man, in part because of her McCain campaign bumper sticker.

The best round-up I've seen on the story and what we know so far comes from my friend Alex Koppelman at Salon, who summarizes why Todd's story has drawn scrutiny, why political observers on the left and right are suspicious about the veracity of her claims, and highlights the fact that local police officials have noted "inconsistencies" and "changes" in Todd's version of events.

I'll withhold judgment on this until more information is available. I won't, however, withhold judgment on this breathtaking piece from John Moody, Fox News' executive vice president, who described the alleged Ashley Todd crime as a "moment of truth."

Part of the appeal of, and the unspoken tension behind, Senator Obama's campaign is his transformational status as the first African-American to win a major party's presidential nomination. That does not mean that he has erased the mutual distrust between black and white Americans, and this incident could become a watershed event in the 11 days before the election.

If Ms. Todd's allegations are proven accurate, some voters may revisit their support for Senator Obama, not because they are racists (with due respect to Rep. John Murtha), but because they suddenly feel they do not know enough about the Democratic nominee.

If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting.

I haven't the foggiest idea what this man is talking about.

To hear the executive vice president of Fox News tell it, if a young white woman was beaten by a black man, voters will revisit whether they know Obama well. If the young woman's story is a hoax, voters will reject McCain. This is the most blisteringly stupid political analysis I've seen in quite a while. There's no coherence here whatsoever. What does the incident have to do with getting to know Obama? What does McCain have to do with Todd's story? Moody doesn't say.

Keep in mind, John Moody's job at Fox News includes sending daily memos to the network's staff and on-air personalities, explaining how to cover the day's news.

It tells us quite a bit about the network.

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he's a fox executive. so, by definition, he's utterly clueless. all he has is propaganda fed to him by roger ailes, er, the rnc lies machine.

Posted by: linda on October 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM | PERMALINK

In any case, lets all realize this: with a considerable number of campaign workers all over the US (thousands?) it is statistically likely that one or more of them will get hit by a mugger, rapist, some other kind of trouble etc. just for being "a person", even if nothing to do with their campaign activities or support of candidates - right? Just something to remember.

But look for this to be used politically. Again, I can't say it enough: this election, like any other, must be considered vulnerable no matter how high Obama polls in most cases.

Posted by: Neil B on October 24, 2008 at 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

1. If Ms. Todd's allegations are proven accurate
2. some voters may revisit their support for Senator Obama
3. because they suddenly feel they do not know enough about the Democratic nominee.

Profit!
.

Posted by: Grand Moff Texan on October 24, 2008 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK

it does seem a bit "Morton Downey Jr." esq...

Posted by: survivin in tejas on October 24, 2008 at 12:35 PM | PERMALINK

Changes her story. No camera evidence at ATM.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6076307.html#

Posted by: SG on October 24, 2008 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

Also: John Moody's comments are grotesquely irrational and divisive. The very idea that voters should judge candidates on what someone did in an isolated incident (not even the potentially viable question, multiple incidents at campaign rallies where "influence" is at least concurrent) is moronic, it is obscene. This tells us yet again what we need to know, that "Fox News" has no business being considered a legitimate, good-faith media news outlet at all.

Posted by: Neil B ☺ on October 24, 2008 at 12:37 PM | PERMALINK

I'd agree Steve, this commentary is, well, as you said, dumb, stupid.

BUT, I wouldn't consider it the dumbest or stupidest ever; don't forget Fux's own E.D. Hill, and her infamous "terrorist fist-jab" comment.

That HAS to be the most moronic statement to ever come out of some newsy's pie hole.

Posted by: citizen_pain on October 24, 2008 at 12:37 PM | PERMALINK

steve: This is the most blisteringly stupid political analysis I've seen in quite a while.

are you saying fox doesn't know its target audience?

Posted by: mr. irony on October 24, 2008 at 12:37 PM | PERMALINK

Um, I think you could type "WTF?" about 200 times and still not convey the "WTF?" quotient for Moody's rant. WTF?

Posted by: steve duncan on October 24, 2008 at 12:38 PM | PERMALINK

Moody is incoherently trying to serve his corporate master, which has argued that distorting the news is its right, and he is looking for an excuse, any excuse, to explain why his sucky team is getting its ass kicked. The resultant blithering reminds me of the scene in "2001" where Hal 9000 sings "Daisy" after it is unplugged by Dave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xOEJ-VuvLM

There will be more and more incoherent noise coming from the right wing and its propaganda arms for awhile, we might as well start the file now so we can keep track of the spewage which can be used to show once and for all that the right wing noise machine is chock full of garbage and can safely be ignored by anyone with a shred of intelligence.

Posted by: Racer X on October 24, 2008 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK

I have heard about many Obama signs and cars bearing Obama signs being vandalized. I just presume it's maladjusted boys, not a McCain campaign strategy.

Posted by: jen f on October 24, 2008 at 12:42 PM | PERMALINK

PITTSBURGH (AP) — Pittsburgh police say a McCain campaign volunteer who said she was held down by a black man who cut the letter "B" in her face has changed her story.

Police spokeswoman Diane Richard says investigators gave the 20-year-old woman a lie-detector test and are "looking at some inconsistencies" in her story.

The student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, initially said a black man robbed her at knifepoint Wednesday night and then cut her cheek after seeing a McCain sticker on her car.

Police say bank surveillance footage doesn't show her at an ATM where she says she was attacked.

Todd, who is white, now says she was knocked unconscious and doesn't remember being cut. She now says she only discovered the wound later.

No arrests have been made.

Posted by: Rapid Eddie on October 24, 2008 at 12:44 PM | PERMALINK

Whenever I watch an excerpt from Fox News, I hear the anguished cry from my brain cells. That network is a shameful, embarrassment dragging us towards Idiocracy.

Posted by: ckelly on October 24, 2008 at 12:44 PM | PERMALINK

Fake. The blacker a "black-eye" is, the more swollen it should be. Otherwise it would be reddish-purple. And even then there would be more evident swelling.

Posted by: TNeedle on October 24, 2008 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

This analysis sounds totally incoherent.

The only sense I can make of it is: if this was a black-on-white crime linked to a political disagreement, then it will be seen as a step backwards in race relations. People will then begin to lose hope that this is the time to move towards racial reconciliation in our politics, and they will also realize that blacks may be less ready for reconciliation than whites had thought. Whites will also begin to see blacks as less like them, as acting in a less comprehensible way. They will generalize this to Obama and begin to lower their certainty that they understand who Obama is and how he would act as president.

However, if this was a hoax, then McCain's attempt to play the "who is Obama?" card will have been a mismatch for this historical moment, at a time when people are willing to turn away from their fears and towards racial reconciliation. In this societal context McCain is seen to be a "race-baiter."


If the above is actually what this guy meant, I think that's a little worrying. As you mentioned, this man is partly in charge of Fox programming. If we believe there is some editorial slant to these pronouncements (because we might think there is such a slant to their coverage in general), it seems like Moody is describing his aspiration to see increased racial mistrust. Of course, he only wants it so Obama loses, but to want it at all (if these hypotheticals are correct) is crazy.

Posted by: mk on October 24, 2008 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

I was reading a commenter at RedState yesterday who repeatedly referred to Obama as having done the actual deeds that some of his supporters have been accused of. I'm not sure if that was meant as an odd rhetorical flourish, or if it was meant to suggest that Obama personally ordered these things to happen (the specific wording made it sound as if Obama did it himself, though I'm assuming the commenter knew better).

One of his examples was the story of some mentally-challenged patient in a mental hospital being forced by his handlers to vote for Obama against his will, with this guy writing as if Obama did this personally. And he wrote it very matter of factly, as if it was commonly understood that Obama did this. It's all very weird.

Perhaps that was the thinking Moody was using, assuming that either Obama did the attack or McCain told her to stage it. Even as it is, conservatives insist that any attacks are Obama's fault, because he told us to "get in their faces." The RedStaters are all convinced that this meant violent attacks.

Posted by: Doctor Biobrain on October 24, 2008 at 12:50 PM | PERMALINK

I suggest you dig a little deeper here. He's revealing more than you realize.

John Moody, as with Fox, provides a very accurate picture of the current beliefs and attitudes held in the alternate reality world known as the Republican base.

He is correct that the "base" believes that this kind of event, if true, would bring voters over to Obama. He's wrong, of course -- the base also believed that 24x7 coverage of Ayers/Acorn would give the election to McCain -- but that's what they believe.

And that is why this almost certainly is a hoax. The person or persons who set this up did so because they think like John Moody.

More revealing, though, is his second comment about "if proven wrong, this will help Obama". Now, in reality world, where we are, that makes no sense. To us it is *obvious* that this will be interpreted as an isolated incident and that the McCain campaign should not be blamed. But in Moody's thinking, he believes this to be true because he believes that McCain is indeed responsible for the actions of his volunteers and campaign workers.

Now, normally you'd expect him to spin it the other way, even if McCain did have some indirect responsibility, because that's what Fox does -- deny responsibility for Republicans. But in this case, he doesn't.

I suspect that's because Moody had some inside info in advance of the "attack", getting ready to prepare the propoganda organ, and is subconsciously revealing that this wasn't an isolated prank from a "bad apple", but instead was planned at a much higher level in the campaign.

That is, like people who lie for a living often do, Moody has accidentally revealed more information than he intended.

Posted by: Anonny on October 24, 2008 at 12:51 PM | PERMALINK

"looking at some inconsistencies"

Like the fact that the letter B is very neatly carved, excuse me, scratched into her face backwards, as would happen if, oh, you were looking in a mirror. Hmm.

This is plainly a disturbed young woman in need of counseling.

Posted by: apostropher on October 24, 2008 at 12:51 PM | PERMALINK

If Ms. Todd's allegations are proven accurate, some voters may revisit their support for Senator Obama...because they suddenly feel they do not know enough about the Democratic nominee.

Isn't it obvious? Obama was the attacker!!

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on October 24, 2008 at 12:52 PM | PERMALINK

Of course, if it turns out that a black guy confesses to beating up Todd, or if Todd confesses to self mutilation, the media will report that everybody does it. Right?

Posted by: Danp on October 24, 2008 at 12:52 PM | PERMALINK

Well it is a hoax. And McCain's campaign is over. Though Ms. Todd surely got just what she wanted, a shout-out from fellow 15-minute of famer Sarah Palin and McCranky. Huzzah.

Maybe Ms. Todd and Gov. Palin will have fun at the election night party in Phoenix while McCain stands outside the hotel on the lawn.

Posted by: kidkostar on October 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK

Wow, what an erroneous-- and dangerously provocative leap in logic to make --especially for a man in his position.

Posted by: iseerussiafromyhouse on October 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK

To be fair, I can see what Moody is getting at. I for one took a long second look at McCain's candidacy after Christian Karl Gerhartsreiter, a self-identified white man, was accused of kidnapping a 7-year-old.

Posted by: Nick on October 24, 2008 at 12:55 PM | PERMALINK

Steve,

This analysis is not political, it is meant to drive a media narrative over the next two weeks.

Connect these dots:

1) A week ago McCain's campaign announces, for reasons that confuse even GOP strategists, that they're giving up on Colordado, New Mexico and Iowa, and that their knew plan is to pursue a map that includes flipping Pennsylvania from blue to red.

2) The only place where McCain seems to have held off an Obama rally in the polls in the past two months is West Virginia, made famous during the primaries by Hillary Clinton and her rallying cry about 'white people'. In the past two weeks, Obama's number went up in WV, then fell back, in large part because WV voters were given a taste of racial politics.

3) Race-baiting won't move the needle in western states or Iowa, but it might work in the extended Appalachian country, which includes western Pennsylvania. Attacking Obama on race is all that McCain has left, so if he's going to do it he'll do it where it might actually trigger historical resentments, etc.

4) McCain tried to kick this off himself a few days ago, but he blew the moment. Instead of castigating Murtha for Murtha's racist remarks, he screwed up and agreed with Murtha, making himself look like an idiot.

5) Now, a day or two later, this woman shows up with a story about being assaulted in racially-tinged, politically motivated beating. Her story is tailor-made for this moment: innocent white girl, huge angry black man, sexual molestation, political torture, you name it, it somehow happened to her.

Again: it doesn't matter if she's telling the truth or not, because this is not about what happened to her. If it happened it's awful. If it didn't happen, she's awful.

The real importance of the event is how it neatly fits into the frame the McCain capaign is trying to build at this very moment, and the FOX 'analyst' is giving credence to that frame.

Even assuming this woman is lying/faking some part of her story, all she has to do is stick to her story for two weeks and McCain can continue to push the racial narrative in PA. The Republicans are trying to move past ideological positions on race and make racial tensions real. They are hoping that some blacks will react/overreact in a way that offends or angers or accuses whites of something, so the fire starts to burn.

DON'T TAKE YOUR EYE OFF THE BALL HERE. MCCAIN'S CAMP WANTS TO STOKE AND FAN RACIAL TENSIONS IN PENNSYLVANIA. FOX NEWS IS SIGNALLING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO LEAD ON THIS FRONT UNTIL SOMEONE PROVES THAT THE GIRL IS LYING, AT WHICH POINT THEY WILL CUT MCCAIN LOOSE AND BURY HIM.

Posted by: The Phantom on October 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM | PERMALINK

Hell, even Michelle Malkin doesn't believer her. This Fox guy is a dolt.

Posted by: Scott M on October 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM | PERMALINK

Anonny has very shrewd observation.

Posted by: on October 24, 2008 at 1:02 PM | PERMALINK

From the perspective of a Pittsburgh local, this looks like more race-baiting from the GOP:

Read About It.

Posted by: merge divide on October 24, 2008 at 1:02 PM | PERMALINK

Regarding the AP article quoted above by Rapid Eddie:

This woman is from College Station, Texas. Why should that matter?

Well, here's a reader on Andrew Sullivan's blog responding to the fact that the College Station Eagle endorsed Obama --

"For your edification and that of your readers, College Station is the home to Texas A&M, founded as an agricultural college and still reveling in its ag tradition. Its student body population is 95 percent white and more than that conservative. We in the rest of Texas refer to College Station as "Berlin on the Brazos." A&M is still home of the corps of cadets, an ROTC program on steroids that still sends young men and women into the active armed services with commissions."

More here:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/the-college-sta.html

Again, she deserves a fair hearing. But the fact that this out-of-state political worker hails from one of the most conservative of places and somehow stumbles into what can only be described as a stereotypical black-on-white crime seems to stretch credulity.

Posted by: The Phantom on October 24, 2008 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

I'm pretty sure, given the backwards B, the fake black eye, and multiple amendments and adjustments to her story, that Ms. Todd's 15 minutes ends with a filing a false report charge.

Are *all* of McCain's supporters this ignorant?

Posted by: doubtful on October 24, 2008 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

She probably has 'Birth of a Nation' on continuous loop on her Netflix account.

Posted by: Curmudgeon on October 24, 2008 at 1:08 PM | PERMALINK

Those ignorant fucks a Faux are going to be really sorry when their base falls apart and the ratings start to fall. They will be singing a different tune as advertising revenues drop and they don't have White house talking points with which to structure their daily newscast around. John Moody eat shit and die

Posted by: John R on October 24, 2008 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

Not one troll with a comment, I guess they have yet to get their marching orders on how to blame BHO for this

Posted by: nuttylittlenutnut on October 24, 2008 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK

She's as authentic as Joe the Plumber.

Posted by: Saint Zak on October 24, 2008 at 1:13 PM | PERMALINK

Another incompetent rising to the level of VP.

Posted by: lou on October 24, 2008 at 1:14 PM | PERMALINK

'I haven't the foggiest idea what this man is talking about.' - an unnamed blogger, leading with his chin

He is talking about possible emotional responses to this incident. Logic has nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Michael7843853 on October 24, 2008 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

Another sign of librulization.

Posted by: Newt on October 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK

Hear two right wingers on the radio this morning still trying to pin this collapse on Fannie and Freddie and they were trying to throw Greenspan a lifeline. "The economic collapse has nothing to do with the Republican philosophy of deregulation..."

People are really still believing this shit?

Posted by: grinning cat on October 24, 2008 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK

It's like blaming Jody Foster for John Hinckley shooting Reagan. Or perhaps they've already done that.

Posted by: idlemind on October 24, 2008 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK

I haven't the foggiest idea what this man is talking about.

Oh, I'm sure Juan Williams can explain it to him.

Posted by: Jeff II on October 24, 2008 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK

http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html

Well, the race is apparently over. Fox should be leading with this soon.

Posted by: jayackroyd on October 24, 2008 at 1:31 PM | PERMALINK

Aaaaaaaaaaaand now she's admitted to making it up.

Aaaaaaaaaaaand the police are filing charges, so it's not going away.

Pop fucking corn.
.

Posted by: Grand Moff Texan on October 24, 2008 at 1:37 PM | PERMALINK

As a local there is one major reason this seems fishy- the location.

Liberty ave in !loomsfield is a main street- well lit, lots of foot and car traffic with many open businesses around. As an outsider she might be assuming that it is an inner city (black) neighborhood.it's an italian neighborhood!oops!

If this is true then it is frightening and inexplicable. If she's lying as a proud pittsburgher I am pissed and a woman I am outraged.

Posted by: zoe in pittsburgh on October 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM | PERMALINK

Even assuming this woman is lying/faking some part of her story, all she has to do is stick to her story for two weeks and McCain can continue to push the racial narrative in PA.

She wasn't even able to stick to her story for 24 hours. The ATM where she said it happened doesn't have any video showing any robberies, and now she's changing her story again.

I think she planned it, but I don't think she expected to actually have to file a police report or have the incident investigated. She thought her story was so believable that no one would bother to check into it.

The people I really feel sorry for are her friends. They took her seriously and insisted that she report it to the police, and now it turns out their friend is an attention-seeking liar. That's never fun.

Posted by: Mnemosyne on October 24, 2008 at 1:39 PM | PERMALINK

Sher lied and they are reporting that she has confessed.

Would you expect anything less from a Palin supporter ? Racial lies and pure stupidity.

Good news for us:
"If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting."

Posted by: on October 24, 2008 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

...just read bulletin on 'Wonkette' that she has confessed to making up story.

Posted by: juan arturo on October 24, 2008 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK

"Senator McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting."

Guess we'll be seeing that sentiment on Fox later tonight. Not.

Posted by: Chris on October 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM | PERMALINK

What are the facts, as of this minute? I see posts stating she has "confessed" to making it up. If so, the only question that needs to be asked of McCain is: When do you announce your resignation from the Senate and the Campaign? When does the Fox Exec announce his resignation. And, when does Obama file Slander charges against Fox and News Corp?
peace,
st john

Posted by: st john on October 24, 2008 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK

God damn, this pisses me off. When will people stop using the "big black man" bogey man to excuse their pathetic intrigues?

Posted by: HeidiPDX on October 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

Given this:

http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html

I think John Moody, by saying "If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting," just sounded the abandon-ship klaxon, thus proverbially covering the network's ass when they do a polar about-face and try to get into the good graces of an Obama presidency.

It is now "unofficially permissible" for Republicans to put on the life-jackets and report to their designated life-boat stations. Officially, though, it's just a drill. Pay no attention to how much of the boat is under water, by the way. All is well (as the band strikes up Nearer My God to Thee, and the elephant in the room weeps violently at the specter of Death)....

Posted by: Steve W. on October 24, 2008 at 1:53 PM | PERMALINK

It is being reported right now that Ashley Todd made the entire thing up:

http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloo

Posted by: myrtle parker on October 24, 2008 at 1:55 PM | PERMALINK

I hope it's true as just commented, this story was made up and girl confessed. She must have been stupid, not just dishonest, since as noted at http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/10/24/attack/index.html?source=refresh:

Based on that image, some people on the Internet have been asking why the "B" on Todd's cheek is reversed, as if she did it to herself using a mirror. Others have brought up an incident from the late 1980s, when Morton Downey Jr. claimed skinheads had painted a swastika on his face. His story was similarly questioned because the swastika was reversed.
[Heh, & Moron J. Downer Jr! - failed the IQ test like so many dextromoronicons]

The photo also shows Todd with a black eye. Salon showed it to Jennifer Province, an emergency room nurse, who says she believes the black eye was faked. The color of it is wrong, Province said, and there's less swelling than typically seen.

Both the mirror image and the black eye have been noted by posters and/or commenters here and elsewhere. So, now we get to find out the story behind this little escapade, and it will make McCain, Faux, etc. look even worse than before.

Posted by: Neil B on October 24, 2008 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK

I see this as a serious hit on Fox and News Corp. How do they spin out of this one? Has O'Hannity Limbaugh stepped in, yet? Too bad the story did not last longer so all the cretins could get filthy.
peace,
st john

Posted by: st john on October 24, 2008 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK

Sheer ecstacy: Drudge now headlining, "SHE MADE IT UP!" I sent him a hint about it some minutes ago, maybe not first but I wanted him to see it as much as possible to participate in his and the Republicans' disappointment.

Yesssss! Now we can watch the discomfiture of John Moody, Faux *Executive Vice President* unfold - have his comments repeated everywhere, blab them over and over again to conservatives, on their talk shows, in their comment boxes, anywhere and everywhere!

Posted by: Neil B on October 24, 2008 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK

What does McCain have to do with Todd's story? Moody doesn't say.

Simple. there are a plethora of stories in the news of McCain supporters going bonkers; trashing cars with Obama stickers, hurling racial slurs at black reporters, and so on. So some wiseacre decides there's needs to be a little 'Obama-on-McCain' violence to balance it out and creates their own. So in theory the MSM can point to this story for one of their 'they all do it' phony 'balance' stories.

No, McCain didn't say 'fake an attack on yourself so we can blame it on Obama'. But it's a logical outgrowth of his whole hatefilled divisive campaign.

Posted by: Arachnae on October 24, 2008 at 2:08 PM | PERMALINK

To me it is sad that this woman is an issue. My guess would Liberal blogs are getting rat fucked and Rathered by talking about this incident.

Concentrate on the issues that are challenging this country and put proposals for fixing the future at the forefront and leave McCain alone in the mud.

Posted by: grinning cat on October 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK

Look, I know how to makә thә lәttәя B...

Votә Яәpublican!

Posted by: Ashlәy To dd on October 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM | PERMALINK

She has admitted that she made it up.

http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html

Wow.

Posted by: LemonyFresh on October 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM | PERMALINK

Concentrate on the issues that are challenging this country and put proposals for fixing the future at the forefront and leave McCain alone in the mud. Posted by: grinning cat

However, this is part and parcel of what is leaving McCain in the mud.

Posted by: Jeff II on October 24, 2008 at 2:37 PM | PERMALINK

Well, I was wrong but my first point still stands. This is stupid and lame. Economy please. Why are Bernake's efforts failing, what is going on on the ground in Pakistan, etc. etc. Shouldn't now be the time where we are concentrating our efforts to ensure our stand on the issues is heard and talked about going forward. If I want drudge I'd go to drudge.

I hope I don't read like a wet blanket and I love reading this site and the collection of commentors but a bit less pop culture-ization of the election would be appreciated.

Posted by: grinning cat on October 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM | PERMALINK

I hope and pray that at least one of John R on October 24, 2008 at 1:09 ("Faux['s] ratings start to fall... advertising revenues drop") or Steve W. on October 24, 2008 at 1:53 PM (Fox will "do a polar about-face and try to get into the good graces of an Obama presidency") is right.
But I suspect we'll see exactly the opposite. Many bloggers, pundits, etc, have noted that the reichwing is far more effective as an opposition than they are at governance (not surprising, as their ideology esssentially demands that).
I fear we're in for a long and tough 8 years, and what they throw at Obama, Congressional Dems, the media (and of course all of us) will make what they threw at the Clintons pale in comparison. There's going to be a lot of rage out there, fueled further by the very tough times we're all going to be facing.

Posted by: smartalek on October 24, 2008 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK

Not very long ago, in fact probably even now in some areas of the country, a claim like this made by a white woman about a black man would result in a lynching with no questions asked.

Posted by: Diane on October 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK

This post is a great example of dog whistle racism in today's politics. And there are so many more!


We're tracking political race baiting at www.stopdogwhistleracism.com. We find the good, bad and ugly from the right, left and center about race in the race. Visit us today for a non-partisan take on the race card, and the race card card, in today's politics.


Hope to see you at StopDog!

Posted by: lyndat on October 24, 2008 at 4:57 PM | PERMALINK

"It tells us quite a bit about the network."

Nothing that we didnt already suspect.

Posted by: John Henry on October 24, 2008 at 5:52 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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