October 31, 2008
TALKING TO OUR ENEMIES.... Gen. David Petraeus has been cautious about the presidential election, but he's come close to all-but endorsing Barack Obama's position on negotiating with U.S. rivals. A few weeks ago, a day after a presidential debate, Petraeus said, "I do think you have to talk to enemies.... I mean what we did do in Iraq ultimately was sit down with some of those that were shooting at us."
The Centcom commander has been following through on this quite a bit. Petraeus has already endorsed talking to the Taliban in Afghanistan, and reportedly wants to engage Syria, as well. What's the hitch? The Bush administration apparently won't let him.
ABC News has learned, Petraeus proposed visiting Syria shortly after taking over as the top U.S. commander for the Middle East. The idea was swiftly rejected by Bush administration officials at the White House, State Department and the Pentagon.
Petraeus, who becomes the commander of U.S. Central Command (Centcom) Friday, had hoped to meet in Damascus with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Petraeus proposed the trip, and senior officials objected, before the covert U.S. strike earlier this week on a target inside Syria's border with Iraq.
Officials familiar with Petraeus' thinking on the subject say he wants to engage Syria in part because he believes that U.S. diplomacy can be used to drive a wedge between Syria and Iran. He plans to continue pushing the idea.
"When the timing is right, we ought to go in there and have a good discussion with the Syrians," said a Defense Department official close to Petraeus. "It's a meaningful dialogue to have."
It's probably a mistake to view everything through the lens of the presidential campaign, but this ABC News report is one of the day's most fascinating items. Not only is Petraeus at odds with Bush, but people close to him are leaking this information just a few days before the presidential election.
What's more, it reinforces the dynamic that's been apparent for a while -- when it comes to a national security strategy predicated on diplomacy, Obama and Petraeus are on one side, while McCain and Bush are on the other.
—Steve Benen 9:52 AM
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So he's authorized to militarily strike Syria, but not to negotiate with them. I see.
(Actually, both of those seem like authorities that should be in the civilian sphere.)
Posted by: Morfydd on October 31, 2008 at 9:58 AM | PERMALINK
The leaking also means he's out to curry favor with his new boss. He's a very political general.
Posted by: Steve LaBonne on October 31, 2008 at 9:58 AM | PERMALINK
I got the sense that Petraeus and Obama clicked when Obama visited the Middle East this past summer.
I think it's always good when a potential president and military leader are on the same page.
Posted by: Allan Snyder on October 31, 2008 at 9:59 AM | PERMALINK
Admiral Fallon was saying the same thing early last Spring (and is 'quoted' as being even more direct in Woodward's "The War Within")and we know what happened to him.
Posted by: robert on October 31, 2008 at 10:00 AM | PERMALINK
http://joshualandis.com/blog/
Lots of material at (actual Syria expert) Professor Landis's "Syria Comment" blog on how the decider's (the Vice President's) decision is having disastrous consquences for the USA . . . and not so good for Israel either.
http://joshualandis.com/blog/
Posted by: sysprog on October 31, 2008 at 10:03 AM | PERMALINK
Lots of material at (actual Syria expert) Professor Landis's "Syria Comment" blog on how the decider's (the Vice President's) decision is having disastrous consquences for the USA . . . and not so good for Israel either.
http://joshualandis.com/blog/
Posted by: sysprog on October 31, 2008 at 10:05 AM | PERMALINK
I got the sense that Petraeus and Obama clicked - Allan Snyder
There was a Senate hearing a while back where Clinton, McCain and Obama each got to ask questions of Petraeus. McCain's questions all sounded like, "Tell me I'm right." Clinton's sounded like, "Why should anyone ever believe you?" And Obama's sounded like, "If this is the goal, how do we get there?" Imagine you're applying for a job. Which would you want to work for?
Posted by: Danp on October 31, 2008 at 10:09 AM | PERMALINK
It's no wonder Bush wouldn't authorize Petraeus to talk with our enemies. That's a surefire way to end a perfectly decent war.
Posted by: chrenson on October 31, 2008 at 10:17 AM | PERMALINK
Theres nothing scarier to me than four more years of similar disorganized and irattic responses. Ive sent this link to everyone I know urging them to stand up and not vote for Mad McCain.
This is a concrete way to show all those people still on the fence that McCain is Mad and you would be nuts to vote for him.
http://tv1.com/playlists/show/11
Its more than worth sending and viewing!
cheers,
Posted by: Enlighten on October 31, 2008 at 10:23 AM | PERMALINK
I have to wait until I get my policy decision from Joe the Plumber
Posted by: Im John McCain and I approved this message on October 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM | PERMALINK
BWahhahahahahaha!
And to think just a few months ago the neocons were drumming hard on the "unpatriotic" liberals for suggesting Patraeus was betray-ing-us for painting a rosy picture of conditions in Iraq.
Now that their new chat will be "General- you betrayed us", can we finally call rethugs unpatriotic assholes?
Posted by: on October 31, 2008 at 10:46 AM | PERMALINK
Doesn't this seem like a proposal for the Sec of State? Where is Rice anyway?
It seems like he new W would shoot down the idea but Petraeus wanted to promote his willingness to take a different route. He knows which way the wind is blowing.
Posted by: CJ_n_PA on October 31, 2008 at 10:56 AM | PERMALINK
In a Newsweek article Oct. 25, a former state department official said this: "To illustrate how far we have isolated ourselves, think about this: I served as the Bush administration's point person on Iran for three years but was never permitted to meet an Iranian."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/165650/page/1
How far did that get us?
Posted by: QuantumV1 on October 31, 2008 at 11:31 AM | PERMALINK
It's also "interesting" because not even six months ago, many Dem bloggers and a few national Dems were claiming Petraeus was intensely, Bush-fawningly political.
Hmm, is that crow I smell cooking on the barbie? Time to eat up!
I'll bet if I searched through the archives here, its former host would need to be at the table. And, if I searched through another blog, the present host of this one would be joining him.
Posted by: SocraticGadfly on October 31, 2008 at 11:55 AM | PERMALINK
Yes, the beloved Global Citizen kept drumming how political anyone above the grade of Colonel or Captain has to be. And, yes, that smell does have a touch of crow attached.
Posted by: berttheclock on October 31, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK
Bush won't go for it because it would be a tacit endorsement of Obama's ideas/views/foreign policy and he can't do that the week before the election. He has to support McCain. Remember nothing is more important than Republican power.
Posted by: Always Hopeful on October 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM | PERMALINK