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November 1, 2008

EAGLEBURGER IS SO VERY SORRY.... The McCain campaign sent Lawrence Eagleburger, deputy secretary of State under Bush I, to NPR on Thursday as part of a segment on "making the case" for a McCain presidency. Eagleburger, instead, made national news by blasting Sarah Palin's readiness for national office, arguing that the Alaska governor isn't capable of stepping in during a time of crisis.

It appears the McCain campaign was less than pleased with Eagleburger's response. Yesterday afternoon, he was rushed onto Fox News to apologize and take it all back. Josh Marshall noted that Eagleburger's appearance "had something of the feel of one of the Maoist self-criticism sessions or perhaps one of the public apologies during the Moscow show trials."

It was rather embarrassing to watch. Eagleburger, a once proud man, said he "made a serious mistake," adding, "I wasn’t thinking when I said it.... I was just plain stupid.... I made a terrible mistake."

Still straying from campaign talking points, Eagleburger said we "can't expect" Palin to be prepared to lead on Day One, but voters shouldn't worry, because she'll learn "quickly" under John McCain's tutelage. (Eagleburger said this would take months.)

Hoping to regain credibility in the campaign's eyes, Eagleburger also did his best to sound like a partisan hack, insisting that Barack Obama's remarks on foreign policy over the course of the campaign have been "stupid and contradictory."

Um, Lawrence? McCain thinks the recent conflict between Russia and Georgia was "the first probably serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War." He thinks Iraq and Pakistan share a border. He believes Czechoslovakia is still a country. He's been confused about the difference between Sudan and Somalia. He's been confused about whether he wants more U.S. troops in Afghanistan, more NATO troops in Afghanistan, or both. He's been confused about how many U.S. troops are in Iraq. He's been confused about whether the U.S. can maintain a long-term presence in Iraq. He's been confused about Iran's relationship with al Qaeda. He's been confused about the difference between Sunni and Shi'ia. McCain, following a recent trip to Germany, even referred to "President Putin of Germany." McCain isn't even sure if he wants to maintain friendly relations with Spain.

Remind me. Who's remarks on foreign policy have been "stupid and contradictory"?

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Too late, Eagleburger said what he really meant the first time...

Posted by: Jet on November 1, 2008 at 9:48 AM | PERMALINK

Eagleburger was a victim of gotcha journalism of the worst kind. NPR should be ashamed.

Posted by: Al on November 1, 2008 at 9:50 AM | PERMALINK

Remind me. Who's remarks on foreign policy have been "stupid and contradictory"?

Eagleburger's comments on Palin were stupid and contradictory. But how incredibly pathetic is it for a man of this stature to suggest that Palin could ever be adequate. What has she ever done to suggest any level of serious competence? After eight years of Bush, that should be a disqualifying fault.

Posted by: Danp on November 1, 2008 at 9:55 AM | PERMALINK

Steve Benen, the guy standing at the bottom of the memory hole with a big ol' net.

Posted by: MarkC on November 1, 2008 at 10:00 AM | PERMALINK

Occam's Razor

They waterboarded him with Kool-Aid...

Posted by: koreyel on November 1, 2008 at 10:16 AM | PERMALINK

That was honestly sad to watch. Whatever self respect the man once had appears to be gone. All I could think about was as a kid being told by my parents to go apologize to another kid who I'd called a name.

It looked more like groveling than apologizing. What possibly could the McCain campaign have over this guy?

Posted by: Jasper on November 1, 2008 at 10:18 AM | PERMALINK

"had something of the feel of one of the Maoist self-criticism sessions or perhaps one of the public apologies during the Moscow show trials."

Makes me wonder if the fascist impulse is predominantly a conservative trait. I think the left is every bit as capable (and will be) of being corrupted by power, but it doesn't seem to manifest in the same way.

Posted by: Del Capslock on November 1, 2008 at 10:19 AM | PERMALINK

I just have to wonder what kind of threats they leveled at him to make him acquiesce so sheepishly like that.

The McCain camp must have some very compromising photos.

In any case, how sad is it, especially with his 'so sorry, so sorry' mea culpa, that the McCain campaign still is pointing to Eagleburger as an example of a noteworthy endorsement? Dog bites man. It's like McCain is bragging that "not all former Republican Sec's of State have endorsed Obama! See, we've kept at least some of them in line."

Posted by: Bob Loblaw on November 1, 2008 at 10:20 AM | PERMALINK

Al said:
Eagleburger was a victim of gotcha journalism of the worst kind. NPR should be ashamed.

And, I still can't figure out whether or not this is satire...

Posted by: Jim H on November 1, 2008 at 10:21 AM | PERMALINK

I'm sorry! I thought you were asking a question of me as a world-famous foreign policy expert, not as a political hack! Because as a world-famous policy expert my ego demands that I point out that Sarah Palin isn't qualified to lick my shoes, no matter how much money Rich Lowry would pay to see that happen!

Again, my bad! This one's one me -- not the McCain campaign! It's all me! So vote McCain/Palin, because then I'll be back in the loop!

Posted by: Larry Eagleburger on November 1, 2008 at 10:30 AM | PERMALINK

"Makes me wonder if the fascist impulse is predominantly a conservative trait."

Not much wondering about that. Google on 'RWA Personality' and read up a bit.

Posted by: Buford on November 1, 2008 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK

Note that CNN headlines a big splashy photo of McCain this morning... previous headline was also McCain.

The game is rigged.

Posted by: Buford on November 1, 2008 at 10:40 AM | PERMALINK

It's a shame. The NRA's wonder woman has taken such a beating. Don't we need a VP who can shoot straight?

With the world' economy tanking, shouldn't we look forward to a runway gal, showing off the latest duds that money can buy?

Last time I checked, Todd still would like Alaska to become a foreign country just like neighboring Russia.

Yes, it's a shame that Lawrence had to rescind his scathing assessment of John's gal!

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on November 1, 2008 at 10:41 AM | PERMALINK

Forgive me, it's the editor in me: In the start of the last sentence of your post, the word in italics should be "Whose" remarks...

Is Eagleburger aware that Palin has been doing nothing but "boning up" and "prepping" for months, to absolutely no avail? How are months spent studying in the White House going to help? Are we back to the old "osmosis" argument again?

Posted by: eparker on November 1, 2008 at 10:41 AM | PERMALINK

Thanks Jasper & Bob-- I too am wondering why in the world Eagleburger didn't just give the McCain campaign the middle finger salute and stick to his guns. Either they convinced him they have a really good plan to steal the election, or they have Fluffy, and if he didn't take it back, Fluffy was gonna get it.

Alternately, are all of the Eagleburger grandchildren accounted for?

Posted by: bluewave on November 1, 2008 at 10:44 AM | PERMALINK

Buford: thanks, I didn't know there as actually a psychological disorder associated with political leanings. Surely there's a left-wing equivalent?

Posted by: Del Capslock on November 1, 2008 at 10:47 AM | PERMALINK

I still like Palin, I dunno, is it a man thing?

I see her an independent, I applaud her effort to make Alaska independent, I applaud her getting as much money from Washington as she can. I do not care about the contradiction.

I would prefer a real maverick in the White House, like her, before I would prefer McCain. And it is not just latent conservatism in me, it is the sense that we have to try new things over and over until we all learn, very fast, what works and what doesn't.

The uncertainty of the times demands more experiments.


Posted by: matt on November 1, 2008 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK

I still like Palin, I dunno, is it a man thing?

Yes. You are thinkin' with the wrong head, sportsfan.

Posted by: on November 1, 2008 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK

Del Capslock: There is no 'left'; not in the US. It was lopped off years ago. What you have is extreme intolerant proto-fascist ideologues calling progressive centrists 'socialist'. Look up 'Overton Window'.

Buford: The game is rigged, indeed. Still, Obama is prevailing.

Posted by: henry lewis on November 1, 2008 at 11:22 AM | PERMALINK

"The uncertainty of the times demands more experiments."

I don't need to do the experiment to know that we don't need a third-rate intellect and corrupt governor of a backwater state to be next in line as leader of the worlds greatest military power.

Posted by: Joel on November 1, 2008 at 11:22 AM | PERMALINK

I still like Palin, I dunno, is it a man thing?

No, it's a boy thang.

Posted by: Dr. Ruth on November 1, 2008 at 11:23 AM | PERMALINK

"I would prefer a real maverick in the White House, like her, before I would prefer McCain."

So Matt likes mavericks, eh? Hey, Matt, you think a black man running a serious campaign for president in the most racist Western nation isn't a maverick? You think all of those died-in-the-wool Republicans crossing party lines to support the guy aren't Mavericks?

You've got an odd definition of "maverick," Matt. Fortunately, it looks as if sufficient numbers of American men don't have your "man thing" and are able to think with their brains rather than with other parts of their anatomy.

Posted by: Nixon Did It on November 1, 2008 at 11:28 AM | PERMALINK

Not "Who's."

"Whose" remarks.

Grrr.

Posted by: Repack Rider on November 1, 2008 at 11:32 AM | PERMALINK

Eagleburger's mea culpa reminds me an awful lot of the guy Cheney shot in the face who then apologized to CHENEY for all the trouble he'd caused him by being shot in the face. You couldn't make this stuff up!

Posted by: impeachcheneythenbush on November 1, 2008 at 11:36 AM | PERMALINK

The more amazing thing is that Biden with his 30 years of experience can't open his mouth without something stupid leaking out. Just google Biden+gaffes and see for yourself. At least Palin is new to politics and can learn. Joe is the proverbial old dog without the ability to learn new tricks.

Posted by: manapp99 on November 1, 2008 at 11:43 AM | PERMALINK

This writer represents the epitome of the "Main Stream Media" lies... Will the Tank Media EVER stop lying?

Eagleburger said, in so many words, "all VP candidates were not ready for the presidency..." And the MSM only reports it as "Sara palin".

Just think; if Obama did not have the Tank Media running interference for him, and throwing nothing but lob-pass questions, where would this election be now?

Posted by: Bill Sanford on November 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK

How about the subtle non-verbal message he's sending.

At first I was thrown off by the Michael Jackson fingerless glove, but I figured it out:

"Who's (been) Bad?"

You know he's bad, he's bad; dogonit he's bad!

Shamone!

Posted by: TBone on November 1, 2008 at 12:07 PM | PERMALINK

Joe Biden isn't stupid, he's a character.

And frankly, I think we can use a few more non-ideological characters in politics. It's so bland these days you need a scorecard to tell the haircuts apart.

Let Biden be Biden. It's not like he started a war we didn't need to fight.

Posted by: The Phantom on November 1, 2008 at 12:08 PM | PERMALINK

Bwahhhahhhhhaaahhaahhaaa.... baahhhhaaaaaa!!

This shit just keeps getting better.

"Oh, I'm just soooo terribly sorry to the McCain campaign. Obama is stupid. Obama knows less than Palin. McCain is the master of the universe. BLahblahablalablaaalbal grovel grovel."

Holy shit I'd have loved to hear the conversations between the McCain camp and Eagleburger following that first interview.

Posted by: on November 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM | PERMALINK

@manapp99

Biden occasionally "gaffes" (if you want to call it that) because he is capable of those things... what are they called again........oh,ya...thoughts and ideas. He speaks freely and honestly which is a rarity in a politician.
Palin is just an old dog and a political savant. She hasn't yet learned all the talking points given her by the McCain staff. When she does she'll be completely free of the burden of thought.

Posted by: Jim on November 1, 2008 at 12:32 PM | PERMALINK

Who's remarks on foreign policy have been "stupid and contradictory"?

Joe Biden's, and he's been carrying on for decades without learning anything. He's never going to be ready.

Sarah Palin is not yet as accomplished as Margaret Thatcher or Harry Truman, but she has talent, intelligence and energy. She has more actual public governance accomplishments than Barack Obama, and he also has made remarks on foreign policy that are "stupid and contradictory".

Posted by: MatthewRMarler on November 1, 2008 at 12:38 PM | PERMALINK

Mattyboy,

Palin - Truman Really?

Palin intelligent? - she can't even speak English.

Palin talent? - I shot my first moose at the age of 14, but that's not a skill for governing the most powerful nation on earth.

Palin energy? - How many interviews has she done over the past two months.

Posted by: Jim on November 1, 2008 at 12:57 PM | PERMALINK

"but she has talent, intelligence and energy. "

And you know she must prize those qualities because of the way she rations them.

Posted by: Joel on November 1, 2008 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

he calls himself Eagleburger? Should be Chickenburger.

Posted by: James Wimberley on November 1, 2008 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK

"Sarah Palin is not yet as accomplished as Margaret Thatcher"

Please... I see this longing comparison to Thatcher appearing frequently in the talking points of the wingers. Thatcher studied chemistry at Somerville College, Oxford. Chemistry! A tough subject that requires factual knowledge and complex thinking. It is science. Poor Palin, on the otherhand, has zero appreciation for science. Afterall she famously made fun of fruit fly research while simultaneously calling for more money to be spent for special needs kids. In fact Drosophila are used precisely for the study of genetics and the causes of "defects" that create special needs children.
Palin is Ignorant. Nothing like Margaret Thatcher. Today's republican party takes its cue from Billy Crystal on SNL, "It's better to look good than to think good."

Posted by: granite_countertops on November 1, 2008 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK

Fascinating, everyone trashes Palin for "lack of experince" for the VP slot, yet she has 100Xs the experience,in all categories, of Obama who is running for President!!!!

Egad, America, this man is a hubris, idiot --an empty suit that will destroy America, her values, the economy and our rights.

The MSM has drunk the koolaid, and is in the tank for "The One". Remember this when you lose your job, your taxes increase substantially and your life savings are gone! Wall Street has spoken....Obama will wreck our economic system.

Posted by: The Wizard on November 1, 2008 at 1:39 PM | PERMALINK

Overdose on your Halloween candy, Wizard? You should know better than to eat the colorful sugary stuff and the gooey brown stuff at the same time. That's essentially how they make LSD, if you must know.

In your childish rant I think you missed the part the economic system began melting down in the early 2000's with the advent of credit default swaps and the unleashing of unbelievably high leveraged ratios in investment banks. Of course the groundwork was laid in 2000 by Phil Gramm with the CFMA that took down the regulatory firewall between insurance, investment banking, and mortgages.

I don't expect you to know that, or to know that Obama has been involved in crafting hundreds of pieces of legislation about issues that will probably remain out of your ability to understand at least until you get to high school.

Posted by: trex on November 1, 2008 at 1:55 PM | PERMALINK

"yet she has 100Xs the experience,in all categories, of Obama who is running for President!!!!"

Yet, because she's such a bimbo, her "experience" seems to have left absolutely no impression. She has the grasp of international affairs, science and Constitutional law of a 5th grader.

"Remember this when you lose your job, your taxes increase substantially and your life savings are gone!"

Since I belong to the 98% of Americans who won't see a tax increase under Obama, I'm not worried. The loss of jobs and savings has occurred under the Bush administration, and McCain promises more of the same.

"Wall Street has spoken....Obama will wreck our economic system."

Hilarious parody! Thanks!

Posted by: Joel on November 1, 2008 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

I think all those years working for Henry the K have taught Eagleburger something about the importance of cynicism and self-preservation.

Posted by: George W. on November 1, 2008 at 2:32 PM | PERMALINK

I've only seen a clip of his "Recantation." It was pathetic. What did he think he was doing. I used to have quite a lot of respect for Eagleburger as I'm sure many middle of the road people not to mention professionals in Washington. By cloaking himself in sack cloth and ashes for a public abasement on Fox News he's just destroyed hig good name. This is what he's going to be remembered for behaving like a pratt.

Posted by: John on November 1, 2008 at 2:53 PM | PERMALINK

Josh : Eagleburger's appearance "had something of the feel of one of the Maoist self-criticism sessions or perhaps one of the public apologies during the Moscow show trials."

exactly, the result of a wee bit of "reeducation."
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the wizard :"yet she has 100Xs the experience,in all categories, of Obama who is running for President!!!!"

really??... i'll just point out their educational "experience." obama has a degree from Harvard F@cking Law, where he studied the constitution..... when bible spice can put an equally impressive sheepskin up on the wall next to her moosehead, then we'll talk....

mo' wiz: "Remember this when your taxes increase substantially and your life savings are gone!"

ha ha... i'm like everybody who makes under $250k...MY taxes arn't going up...and the only way i could lose my life savings is if i have an unforseen medical emergency that i can't pay for....something MUCH move likely to happen under Prez McCain....

Posted by: dj spellchecka on November 1, 2008 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

Matthew wrote about Palin being intelligent...

No. Not even close. No-one who seriously thinks that dinosaurs roamed the earth with humans, that the universe is only 6,000 years old, and wants to teach creationism as a science class can lay claim to the term "intelligent".
She's just another bible-thumpin', tobaccy-chewin', dumb-as-nails antiintellectual from the hinterland, and the notion of having her a heartbeat away from being Commander-in-Chief in charge of the nuclear football should scare any rational person to death!

Posted by: Robert Reppy on November 1, 2008 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

Matthew wrote about Palin being intelligent...

No. Not even close. No-one who seriously thinks that dinosaurs roamed the earth with humans, that the universe is only 6,000 years old, and wants to teach creationism as a science class can lay claim to the term "intelligent".
She's just another bible-thumpin', tobaccy-chewin', dumb-as-nails antiintellectual from the hinterland, and the notion of having her a heartbeat away from being Commander-in-Chief in charge of the nuclear football should scare any rational person to death!

Posted by: Robert Reppy on November 1, 2008 at 3:48 PM | PERMALINK

Eagleburger is a partisan hack. All he gives as his "excuses" are standard GOP talking points without any substance.

Posted by: Corntrollio on November 1, 2008 at 7:12 PM | PERMALINK

Boy does the ReThuglican Polit Bureau act quickly!

What, did they take away his donuts? Threaten his cushy think tank posts? Tell him they'd kick him off some corporate boards that pay $90,000 a meeting?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Posted by: Cal Gal on November 1, 2008 at 7:51 PM | PERMALINK

"I still like Palin, I dunno, is it a man thing?"

Yep. Just that. See Kristol, Bill.

She's a Barbie, a Miss Alaska, put her in a bunny suit in your mind.

It is DEFINITELY a man thing. And not a gay man thing, either. A breeder man thing. Thinking with the little head and all that.

Posted by: Cal Gal on November 1, 2008 at 7:54 PM | PERMALINK

"Remember this when you lose your job, your taxes increase substantially and your life savings are gone!"

HahahahahahahaHAHAHAHA!!! Whoa, are these wingnuts dim bulbs, or what?

When you got no income, you got no income to tax, doofus, even if you believe that crapola about Obama's tax plan. How clear does he have to make it? Once your income drops below 250K, no tax increase AT ALL.

Plus, the ReThugs made sure our life savings are ALREADY gone by giving them to the Fat Cats on Wall Street who are the ReThuglican Base.

Go away, boy, you bother me.

Posted by: Cal Gal on November 1, 2008 at 8:00 PM | PERMALINK

Since there appear to be some McCain supporters here, if you want to see the real McCain in Vietnam, visit www.tinyurl.com/McCainTalks

Posted by: No way, no how, no McCain on November 1, 2008 at 8:02 PM | PERMALINK

When did asking a straightforward question become "gotcha" journalism? Seems it's only gotcha journalism when someone says something the McCain campaign doesn't agree with. Nobody's falling for it. Eagleburger forgot his talking points and gave his honest opinion.

Posted by: M Baker on November 1, 2008 at 9:15 PM | PERMALINK

I think the most compelling criticism of Sarah Palin is that she doesn't read.

Come to think of it (and in light of what the main article pointed out regarding geographical confusion), I am beginning to believe you can apply the same argument to John McCain as well.

This is not good; you can't depend on other people for all your information, especially given the profound vetting of such that goes in circles of power. Sometimes you need to read, and I suspect the evidence is that neither one is overly familiar with the printed page.

And sometimes you just can't teach a young dog new tricks, either. You can't run a country of one third of a billion people with a least-common-denominator intellect.

Check Sarah's scholastic record. I remember someone posted her transcripts under a FOI inquiry, including her GPA and IQ test* results, which (although normally not something one would do) I think is a fair to apply for discovery given the gravity of the position Sarah is applying for.

(High school transcripts under her maiden name, *2.2 and 83, respectively, with photo ID. The FOI report was a PDF of old scanned documents and did not appear to be photoshopped. If further corroboration is needed I'd prefer you used your own sources or a third-party independent.)

Posted by: Nefarious Wheel on November 1, 2008 at 9:34 PM | PERMALINK

How did they get fatso to crawl like that? The totalitarian security panopticon must have caught him with a bignosed Jersey whore like Spitzer's. Wearing a diaper or something. Holy shit.

Posted by: blackmail on November 1, 2008 at 9:52 PM | PERMALINK

Where is Obam's GPA information from the esteemed "Harvard Law"? It's interesting that Palin gets drummed for lack of experience and Obama gets a pass because of his supposed greater education yet we don't have all the info on that education. Let's see a real comparison:

Obama- Community Organizer and Harvard Law School
Palin- PTA President and Mayor of Smail town

Obama- State Senator from Chicago- Murder captial of the Usa, I guess he wants to do for us what he did for Chicago, I guess crime-fighting is above his paygrade. US Senator for 18 months before he began campaigning for Presidentential nomination

Palin- Governor of largest state by Square miles, New York may have more people, but has less area and more local governments, Illinois is smaller still in size, Obama was state Senator, not an executive position. Palin was governor, executive (CEO) of Alaska

But and what's really funny is we are comparing the Dem's nominee for President and the Repub nominee for Vice- President.

Oh, did i mention that our nominee for President served his country in the US Navy for 20 years, was a Navy Academy graduate (a much bigger accomplishment than Harvard Law) and also a graduate of the Hanoi Hilton, Obama wouldn't have lasted a week in the Hanoi Hilton before he would have sold out his country and his unit.

Oh, and to top it off McCain has been in the US House of Representatives and the US Senate for over 20 years. Experience is actually a good thing at times.

Sorry, just on military service alone McCain stands head and shoulders above Obama. McCain has lived a life of service and sacrifice for his country, Obama has lived the life of a leech off of his and wants to create more Leeches so the Democratic party stays in power.

Posted by: rich on November 2, 2008 at 1:08 AM | PERMALINK

I was surprised that Eagleburger didnt regurgitate his testicles while apologizing.

Oh and by the way Rich, you forgot to mention that Obama is an uppity n----r while you were at it.

Posted by: rick on November 2, 2008 at 2:14 AM | PERMALINK

rich, rich, rich - you fucking douchenozzle, you make this too easy:

Obama- Community Organizer and Harvard Law School
Palin- PTA President and Mayor of Smail town

You have a point here? Palin wasn't up to the job of mayor of a town of 6000, and a city manager had to be hired to do the actual job. And still she left the town millions in debt, and the hockey arena she's so proud of cost an extra mil in legal wrangling because she jumped the gun.

Obama- State Senator from Chicago- Murder captial of the Usa, I guess he wants to do for us what he did for Chicago, I guess crime-fighting is above his paygrade. US Senator for 18 months before he began campaigning for Presidentential nomination

What the fuck does a state senator have to do with crime rates? Not a god damned thing, you say? Then what the fuck are you on about?

Palin- Governor of largest state by Square miles, New York may have more people, but has less area and more local governments, Illinois is smaller still in size, Obama was state Senator, not an executive position. Palin was governor, executive (CEO) of Alaska

What are you blathering about? Alaska is a welfare state of less than 700,000 people. She has never had to make any tough decisions to balance a budget, she just seizes assets of oil companies and rents popularity.

But and what's really funny is we are comparing the Dem's nominee for President and the Repub nominee for Vice- President.

You are. We aren't. We see her for the lightweight idiot she is.

Oh, did i mention that our nominee for President served his country in the US Navy for 20 years, was a Navy Academy graduate (a much bigger accomplishment than Harvard Law) and also a graduate of the Hanoi Hilton, Obama wouldn't have lasted a week in the Hanoi Hilton before he would have sold out his country and his unit.

Oh, did you forget that your guy graduated at the bottom of his class, was such a fuckup he would have washed out his plebe summer if his name wasn't "John Sidney McCain" and he was a lousy pilot who lost five planes and had he not been a lousy pilot might have missed the defining moment of his bio?

Oh, and to top it off McCain has been in the US House of Representatives and the US Senate for over 20 years. Experience is actually a good thing at times.

So he has been in a position of power for the entire time our nation has been in decline. Thanks for the reminder!

Sorry, just on military service alone McCain stands head and shoulders above Obama. McCain has lived a life of service and sacrifice for his country, Obama has lived the life of a leech off of his and wants to create more Leeches so the Democratic party stays in power.

Let me say this as a veteran: Bullshit. Military service doesn't equate to qualification for office or a free pass for any damned thing. But wingnuts who don't serve lionize service, and it's frankly damned insulting. Leeched off the country? No way. That would be your guy who has literally been on the government tit since the day he was born. And stayed there because he was a legacy when someone with a different last name would have been a wash out in short order.

So off your knees and wipe your chin, boy. You can vote for your loser candidate and be in a constant state of pissed off for the next 4-8 years. After the last eight years, I consider your discomfort and aggravation a feature, not a bug, so piss off now, would you?

Posted by: Blue Girl on November 2, 2008 at 3:44 AM | PERMALINK

Truth is that the Republicans? who are defecting are not and were not really Conservative Republicans anyway, all they are is Subversives who became Republicans in order to lead the Conservative Movement Astray. A good Indication of this is that the most of them are Bushies and all the Bushes are is World Government Hacks,the latest in this string of Defections is of course Cheny who gave his supposed Endorsement in order to Submarine McCain since it is close to the Election and McCains numbers were rising. If you look back at each of the times someone either has Defected or Endorsed McCain it was the correct one who Defected in order to negatively affect McCain and also the ones who Endorsed were the appropriate ones to negatively affect his Campaign, the most of the problems in the McCain Campaign also were closely related to Bush.

Posted by: john smith on November 2, 2008 at 9:29 AM | PERMALINK

Those problems in the McCain Campaign were due in large part to the Campaign Staffers from the Bushies who were helping to run the McCain Campaign.

Posted by: john smith on November 2, 2008 at 9:33 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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