November 3, 2008
GOOD SEATS ARE STILL AVAILABLE.... Here's what John McCain had to say this morning in Tampa:
"The pundits may not know it and the Democrats may not know it, but the Mac is back! We're going to win this election."
Perhaps the more notable development, though, was the audience for McCain's message. (via Ben Smith)
About 30 minutes before John McCain is scheduled to lead a rally outside Raymond James Stadium, looks like maybe 1,000 people here. What's up with that? On the day before the election? Bush drew at least 15,000 people to a rally just across the street on the Sunday before the 04 election.
"We are the quiet majority that goes out and gets things done. I smell victory,'' said state Rep. Kevin Ambler. Good thing he smells it, because it's hard to see it with this crowd.
Republican consultant Chris Ingram of Tampa added, "If you can't round up 1,500 people the day before the election, you've got a serious problem. From an organizational standpoint, they've done a terrible job."
—Steve Benen 10:30 AM
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I guess this means McCain needs to start each sentence in his speeches today with:
"My friend,..."
Posted by: chrenson on November 3, 2008 at 10:31 AM | PERMALINK
Paris Hilton beats that at a Neiman-Marcus perfume rollout party.
Posted by: steve duncan on November 3, 2008 at 10:32 AM | PERMALINK
Maybe everyone was 'Early Voting?'
No?
Posted by: ThatGuy on November 3, 2008 at 10:32 AM | PERMALINK
"The pundits may not know it and the Democrats may not know it, but the Mac is back!"
Huh? Where has the Mac been?
He doesn't mean he's going to crash a sixth plane, does he?
Posted by: on November 3, 2008 at 10:32 AM | PERMALINK
The hordes were probably at the Joe the Plumber's rally outside of Davis Plumbing Supply in Buffalo New York. Or maybe at Palinaroundwithterrorists rally outside of Gitmo where the neo nazis are planning the takeover of the prison so they can torture legally....
Posted by: stevio on November 3, 2008 at 10:33 AM | PERMALINK
reminds me of Mccain's first speech after he won the nomination... talking to a few hundred people in front of that hideous green screen. way to come full circle, MAC
Posted by: John on November 3, 2008 at 10:33 AM | PERMALINK
Even though they can't even get a decent crowd of Republicans together to root for McCain, I'm sure they'll be able to muster up plenty of outrage about the election having been "stolen" by ACORN.
Thinking just isn't the Republican thing to do.
Posted by: Racer X on November 3, 2008 at 10:33 AM | PERMALINK
It's not over yet. All polls have MOEs, and we simply don't know which way the undecided will fall.
It looks fairly good right now, but we keep fighting until it's official (including handling any legal challenges).
Posted by: Franklin on November 3, 2008 at 10:34 AM | PERMALINK
"The pundits may not know it and the Democrats may not know it, but the Mac is back!"
Actually, this was a misquote. McCain actually said, "the McRib is back!"
Oh, how Johnny loves the McRib.
Posted by: chrenson on November 3, 2008 at 10:34 AM | PERMALINK
There's a very obvious typo in the articlke from the TampaBay.com site that was the source of the Republican consultant Chris Ingram quote:
"From every conceivable standpoint, they've done a terrible job."
That should fix it.
Posted by: smartalek on November 3, 2008 at 10:35 AM | PERMALINK
The money that could have built the field organization he'd need for bigger crowds was spent on attack ads instead. You know, the ads that pushed Obama down to a mere 62% positive rating.
Epic. Fail.
Posted by: jimBOB on November 3, 2008 at 10:36 AM | PERMALINK
From an organizational standpoint, they've done a terrible job."
So why should today be any different from the rest of the campaign? Maybe Mr. Ingram hasn't been paying attention.
Posted by: tomeck on November 3, 2008 at 10:39 AM | PERMALINK
Yeah, it's an organizational problem.
It's not a message problem.
Or a competence problem.
Or a liar-liar-pants-on-fire problem.
It's an organizational problem.
(My theory about all this is that Cindy McCain misplaced the campaign blueprint in one of their 7 houses or 13 cars. Years from now a servant will find it, bring it to her, and she'll weep.)
Posted by: The Phantom on November 3, 2008 at 10:40 AM | PERMALINK
"We are the quiet majority that goes out and gets things done. I smell victory,'' said state Rep. Kevin Ambler. Good thing he smells it, because it's hard to see it with this crowd.
Snap!
Posted by: Monty on November 3, 2008 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK
Did this knucklehead construction worker not realize that he was making phone calls from a screened list of likely conservative voters?
Posted by: jonas on November 3, 2008 at 10:54 AM | PERMALINK
It's the incompetence, stupid.
It's the incompetents, stupid.
It's the stupid incompetents.
Posted by: Baldrick on November 3, 2008 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK
"From an organizational standpoint, they've done a terrible job."
Understatement of the campaign, innit?
Posted by: Kenji on November 3, 2008 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK
I'm not havin' any trouble packin' 'em in there!
Winky-winky!!!
Posted by: Sarah Palin on November 3, 2008 at 11:05 AM | PERMALINK
Let's vote and put the McCain campaign out of its misery already. I think this is going to be something like Dole in 1996.
"Old man yells at cloud, goes down in flames"
Posted by: Allan Snyder on November 3, 2008 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK
If nothing else, it's the supposed strength of Obama's organization that is making me sleep at night. I don't know if McCain's is as bad as I suspect, but even if it's strong, I'd bet Obama's is stronger. Fivethirtyeight.com has shown numerous offices closed, open a lot less frequently than Obama's, and sparsely populated when they are open. Whether you take the underwhelming rally in Tampa as a separate but equal sign of lack of support or as a symptom of a poor organization, it doesn't look good for McCain. I don't expect Obama to win by double digit margins in Ohio or Florida--in Iowa and Minnesota, maybe, but not the toss ups--unless McCain's organization in the state is much, much worse than expected, but I do expect a sweep of many of the hotly contested states because of Obama's ground game.
Posted by: Brian J on November 3, 2008 at 11:10 AM | PERMALINK
Speaking of good seats, a lot of my friends are reporting to me that they got tickets for tomorrow's Rally in Grant Park!
It pains me to be 35 miles away and not attending, but the circumstances of life being what they are, it was simply not possible.
Anyone else get tickets? Have a great time celebrating the Obama victory!
Posted by: doubtful on November 3, 2008 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK
What? The school bus drivers go on strike or sumpin'?
Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on November 3, 2008 at 11:22 AM | PERMALINK
Hey if all they are going to hear about is what "Obama says .." they might as well go to his rallies and hear it first hand, instead of listening to professional bull shitters. [left eye wink right hand finger gun simultaneously]
Posted by: John Henry on November 3, 2008 at 11:29 AM | PERMALINK
Let's hope that dispirited republican are legion and take a pass on voting. It seems there are significant numbers of republicans who don't like McCain, significant numbers of other who don't like Palin, and hopefully a whole lot who will conclude their cause is lost.
It could turn into a blowout.
Posted by: Chris Brown on November 3, 2008 at 11:35 AM | PERMALINK
Chris Brown:
I think your point about disaffected Republicans passing on the election is a very good one. I've been arguing for the past few months that this year may feel to Republicans like 1994 did to me: I hated the Dixiecrat-dominated Congress so much, that for the first time in my life I didn't vote in a national election. The result? Newt Gingrich and the Republicans take the House (and go on to embarrass themselves, but that's another story).
I'm just not convinced that Republican voters -- moderates, as opposed to the evangelicals -- have any reason to show up tomorrow. If they don't (meaning a percent or two abstains), that could be a big deal for Obama.
On a related point: watch for a reverse Bradley effect in the South, where white voters refuse to acnowledge that they're going to vote for Obama to friends, family and pollsters, but do so anyway once they get in the voting booth.
Posted by: The Phantom on November 3, 2008 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK
You used to get more people than that at raves in the 90s, organized at a moment's notice, advertised surreptitiously and held in the middle of nowhere.
Posted by: Rapid Eddie on November 3, 2008 at 12:01 PM | PERMALINK
McCain needed to unite the various groups at war in the Republican Party. Instead, he's given every one of them reason not to trust him. They might vote for him, but they aren't enthusiastic enough to do the neighbor-to-neighbor GOTV that the Republicans were so good at. And this time, it is the Republicans more likely to be discouraged by long lines at the polls, not the Democrats who have that enthusiasm.
And yet, McCain was -- and still is -- the best of the candidates who were running. Remember, the others were Mitt "Empty Suit" Romney, Rudy "Noun-Verb-9/11" Giuliani, "Good Heart, No Brains" Huckabee, Fred "Sleepy" Thompson, "Blame everything on illegal aliens" Tancredo, Ron "I didn't write the racism, just printed it" Paul, and "Duncan the Obscure" Hunter. And that was the best the Republicans could do.
Posted by: Prup (aka Jim Benton) on November 3, 2008 at 12:17 PM | PERMALINK
Each new humiliation is sweeter than the last.
Posted by: shortstop on November 3, 2008 at 2:55 PM | PERMALINK
I live in Berkeley, CA, and if McCain showed up here on any random
afternoon I'll bet we could round up fifteen hundred people to
come downtown to the park to see him. Not a one of us would vote
for him, but heck, a famous person a big crowd news cameras
and stuff, it would be a fun time.
If he can't get that to happen in the heart of dixie he doesn't have
the organizational skills to be the head of the PTA, never mind president.
Posted by: Alphonse on November 3, 2008 at 3:56 PM | PERMALINK
Conservative neighbor, wife of a developer who has been spending a lot of time at home lately, said she couldn't vote for Obama because he's too liberal on social issues (abortion, I guess), but that she can't vote for McCain either.
That may be who many of the still 'undecided' are.
I suggested she vote for Bob Barr if she really couldn't vote for Obama.
Posted by: Two little words: also and even on November 3, 2008 at 6:21 PM | PERMALINK