November 5, 2008
CNN FORGETS THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION.... Remember, these folks get paid to provide expert political analysis.
For those of you who can't watch videos from your work computers, the clip is from CNN's election coverage last night. Campbell Brown asks John King, "For those people who have been worried about the possibility of one party controlling Congress and the White House, the last president to do that, of course, was..." King responds, "Ah, that was Bill Clinton."
Brown interrupts to correct King's error. "Jimmy Carter!" Brown said. "Bill Clinton had Democrats in the House and in the Senate?" King replied, "Very briefly." Brown added, "Didn't go so well." King agreed, adding, "No, it didn't."
Putting aside the successes of the first fourth of Bill Clinton's presidency, it's not at all comforting that Campbell Brown and John King seem to have forgotten that the current president worked with a Congress led by his own party just two years ago. And that didn't "go so well."
As Atrios asked, "Jeebus, people, did you not live through the first part of this century?"
—Steve Benen 11:00 AM
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Ah, the beginning of media amnesia--so soon! Bush was a great president, wasn't he? Yeah, and the Rethugs are a reputable party and McCain an honorable man.
Posted by: Frak on November 5, 2008 at 11:04 AM | PERMALINK
Honestly, I think we caught an early lucky break here. John King is a proud reporter, and Campbell Brown is dialing it up for a run at actual TV-personalityhood.
That these two 'professionals' made complete fucking idiots out of themselves on national (cable) TV at the very moment when the entire planet flipped on its axis is going to send a blackberry-fed shockwave through the media.
And no, I'm not joking.
The did Barack Obama a huge, huge favor.
Posted by: The Phantom on November 5, 2008 at 11:06 AM | PERMALINK
Brainwashed.
The press really needs to be deprogrammed.
I think this mistake was completely unconscious, which is quite disturbing but perhaps understandable given how the GOP "frame" has dominated our thinking about our government since Nixon.
Posted by: lobbygow on November 5, 2008 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK
I find this especially weird given that her husband worked for the Bush administration (though she was not married to him at the time). Wouldn't this have given her some clue?
Posted by: John S. on November 5, 2008 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK
it's not at all comforting that Campbell Brown and John King seem to have forgotten that the current president worked with a Congress led by his own party just two years ago.
Isn't stuff like that why they have declining respect and influence? It's not just left or right, liberal or conservative, Democratic or Republican, but lots of the "main stream" news media seem kind of dumb and ignorant -- don't they?
Posted by: MatthewRMarler on November 5, 2008 at 11:10 AM | PERMALINK
John King is the dumbest man on TV, and Campbell Brown is no star in the brains department either.
Posted by: shortstop on November 5, 2008 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK
Clearly they meant "the last Democrat president". After all, they're not just dumb, they're also Republicans. To them, anything a Republican president did was, by definition, successful.
Posted by: J Bean on November 5, 2008 at 11:17 AM | PERMALINK
Can't wait for Jon Stewart to sink his teeth into this one....
Posted by: lydabeth on November 5, 2008 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK
Best Political Team on Television!
Posted by: Lifelong Dem on November 5, 2008 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK
Down the Memory Hooooooooollllleeeee.....
Posted by: ckelly on November 5, 2008 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK
Um, guys. The whole Dick Cheney Ministry of History thing where you pretend history can be altered just through the force of will...
It kind of ended two years ago. Last night should have been a big ol' hint.
You may want to try somethign ELSE now. Or don't. Maybe a 60 seat Democratic Senate might be a sufficient wake up call.
Reality USED TO BE palatable to you guys. Why not take a taste now and then. The bitter flavor, like arugula, is an acquired taste that should be cultivated.
Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on November 5, 2008 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK
Blinders, these hand puppets see the repubs as our inherent leaders, so they easily skip right over the Bushco years to find all the "disastrous" examples of unified Dem rule.
Posted by: dontcallmefrancis on November 5, 2008 at 11:20 AM | PERMALINK
So are the dumbdits just stupid/clumsy, or nefarious? I just can't make up my mind.
A quibble, but it could matter someday: On the electoral vote maps, I don't see evidence of taking those offbeat states into account that either provide for proportional electoral votes, or special trick like giving their votes to the popular vote winner. It just seems to be run like every state has WTA n electoral votes. Am I missing something?
BTW, how cool if Al Franken can pull it off, but recounts rarely change outcomes - unless the Repugs suppressed votes or cheated, then we can pull some from that!
Posted by: Neil B on November 5, 2008 at 11:23 AM | PERMALINK
Perhaps someone can find the transcript, but I thought King made a telling comment in speaking about the need for the Repulicans to regroup.
He used the word "we" and not "they", when he spoke of the Republicans reviewing the campaign and, then saying, what "we" need to do.
Throughout the campaign, he was in the tank for McCain. How about his saying the Personnel Board Palin appointees had "over turned" the report of the Independent Counsel without noticing the difference in the two panels. He is, also, another "journalist" who arrogantly dismisses the intelligence and influence of the political bloggers of the left. They helped win the election; all he was left to do, was report. And, his "influence" helped McCain, how?
Posted by: berttheclock on November 5, 2008 at 11:34 AM | PERMALINK
It's all a part of their attempt to overtake Fox as "the best Republican PR team on television."
Posted by: John on November 5, 2008 at 11:39 AM | PERMALINK
I love the media insisting that Bush was what sank John McCain's vessel. He just couldn't get over that hurdle.
John McCain was not Bush, but he supported everything Bush did, acting as head cheerleader for some of the worst calamities; and when it was his turn, he ran on the exact same platform. The platform of hate and intolerance, greed and warmongering for a profit is the problem. The republican party didn't offer an alternative in this election period (exclamation point)!
Now, I pray conservatives keep this platform in conjunction with their vow to purge the ranks. It only means my family is safe for generations.
Posted by: ThatGuy on November 5, 2008 at 11:46 AM | PERMALINK
J Bean is surely right. After all, the lead in was about people being "worried" about one party controlling the White House and Congress. It might not occur to King & Browm that anyone would worry about Republicans being in that position - unless perhaps you are Jim Jeffords and are so worried about it that you leave the Republican party to undo such control. Amazing.
Posted by: Nick Nayme on November 5, 2008 at 11:49 AM | PERMALINK
The vapid "on-air personalities" and vacuous "pundits" of the corporate "news" media are very well paid to be propagandists for the interests and agenda of their employers -- America's Ultra-Rich Ruling Class, Inc. -- and that's not about to change as a result of this election.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on November 5, 2008 at 11:49 AM | PERMALINK
Irony alert: MatthewRMarler wrote: Isn't stuff like that why they have declining respect and influence?
You ought to know, Marler. Shame on you.
Posted by: Gregory on November 5, 2008 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK
CNN FORGETS THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION....
Oh that we all had that luxury. . .
Posted by: zeitgeist on November 5, 2008 at 11:57 AM | PERMALINK
Amen, zeitgeist, amen. We should all be so lucky.
Posted by: Piper on November 5, 2008 at 12:07 PM | PERMALINK
Send the cuddly f#$ks to Gitmo, where the Dark Lord Cheney can school them in his avocation, genital mutilation. That way when a cool breeze blows through their empty crotches, they will never forget the name of Bush.
Wow, this election has me feeling my oats.
Posted by: Michael7843853 on November 5, 2008 at 12:28 PM | PERMALINK
CNN isn't the only "bubble of forgetfulness" today. Not ten minutes ago, I heard Kelly O'Donnell (MSNBC) refer to McCain being "24/7 for the past two years."
WTF? She can't remember Mr. "Nowhere-on-the-weekends" until the last few weeks of the campaign? She can't remember all the Senate votes that McCain couldn't show up for? She can't remember the BirthDay Cake Snapshot with Dead-Duck George while NOLA drowned under the inundations of Katrina?
Posted by: Steve W. on November 5, 2008 at 12:35 PM | PERMALINK
The House leadership was reluctant to pursue impeachment of Bush and Cheney for fear of jeopardizing the Democrats' chances in the election.
Well, Madam Speaker -- what's our excuse now?
Posted by: chowderhead on November 5, 2008 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK
In response to Steve W. above...
One thing I havent seen in the McCain campaign post-mortems is his virtual disappearance in the spring. While Obama and Clinton were duking it out, McCain seemed content to lay back and watch.
I imagine he wanted them to bloody each other up without having to lift a finger, but if he had put on more of a public face, he could have looked like he was above the fray - the calm, steady hand navigating through the storm. (note: I dont actually view McCain that way - I'm just saying he could have positioned himself in that role)
I dont know what he was doing during that period (obviously he wasnt spending much time thinking about his VP selection or constructing a coherent campaign narrative). But it seemed like a lost opportunity for him. I'm glad he missed the boat!
Posted by: TG Chicago on November 5, 2008 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK
". . . what's our excuse now?"
Two holiday recesses out of the two months left to do so and the fact that this was not the only reason, at least one other being that a wholly insufficient number of members of the GOP will vote to convict. Not to mention the stalling tactics that a bitter GOP can impose with no threat from the electorate at all at this point, even if that had been a possibility previously.
Such proceedings would also be a distraction from the Obama victory, cut into the theory that Obama represents a new type of politics, and would inevitably undermine the Democratic agenda by suggesting to the public that the party is more interested in revenge than it is in addressing the future of the country.
Let it go. Ain't gonna happen.
Simply luxuriate in the fact that the Wicked Witches of the Southwest and West are politically dead for all practical purposes and headed to the dustbins of history (even though the mess they have created is not).
Now, investigation and prosecution of crimes against humanity by the new administration AFTER the first 100 days wouldn't be a bad idea, but the focus now must be on the future and on the Obama victory.
Posted by: Yobama on November 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM | PERMALINK
One might also point out that it would be difficult for a smooth transition to a Democratic presidency to occur in the midst of a last-ditch effort by congressional Democrats to unseat both the P and the VP for the mere show of it.
Why do you want to make it even more difficult for Obama who will face huge issues to solve upon taking office?
Posted by: Yobama on November 5, 2008 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK
If this is the meme that the MSM is already allowing to be pushed out into the public consciousness, you can bet the dishonored and discredited Republicans will be claiming that all the nation's ills in the last eight years were caused solely by Democrats any minute now.
Actually they've been doing that all along but you'd think even they would be a teensy bit embarassed about it by now. But sadly, no.
Posted by: Curmudgeon on November 5, 2008 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK
For all this talk of bipartisanship (allowing the very ones who created our current disaster to continue to obstruct the progress to end it for solely political reasons) I only hope Obama reaches across the isle to the Green party. If Obama is truly serious about wanting to hear opposing viewpoints and honest opinons besides those who would just agree with him then let him appoint RALPH NADER as head of the EPA. There is no better candidate for that position. Then Obama would get opinions he may not want to hear but would be based on honest and caring motivations.
Republicans have not offered one single policy that was good for America in the last 8yrs...not one. We need dem partisanship and unified democratic government like never before to save our democracy, our economy, and the planet's environment. We need unity and not more republican obstructionism (like the record setting senate filibusters) to accomplish the mandates of the majority of Americans that have been ignored over the last 8yrs. Boehner, Bond, Graham, McConnell, Lieberman, McCain, etc. have all stood in the way of any progress for the good of the people and will continue to do so all for the sake of party, not country.
Never forget that what these republican conservatives really want is government FOR the people and not BY the people. They really want a wealthy ruling elite (the king and his court and all the knights) which the majority of wealthy republicans feeling they deserve to be a part of the "Court". Our founding fathers would have been opposed to the entire republican party as it stands today. Besides we have enough republicans posing as dems in the democratic party already but they forget the get their just powers to govern from the people. They are not separate from us as some foreign entity sent to rule the masses. They are the ones we approve to take up our national business and report back to us to hear our thoughts on how they should proceed.
When bipartisanship is used only in terms of obstructionism for political gain then it negates its intended purpose...compromising for the good of the nation. Otherwise...screw bipartisanship. The people either want to move in one direction or another not be stalled or blocked for political gain.
Posted by: bjobotts on November 5, 2008 at 2:55 PM | PERMALINK
EVERYBODY is eager to forget the Bush Administration.
Just wipe it out of their minds and get on with the business of cleaning up the mess that SOMEONE left on the floor of the Oval Office.
LOL. I guess DeLay and Frist were Democrats. Who Knew?
Posted by: Cal Gal on November 5, 2008 at 5:26 PM | PERMALINK
Speaking of Campbell Brown and CNN, I saw today on my teevee that she was promising to hold Obama to ALL of his campaign promises. She was ominous in sounding like she was going to be all over Obama like a bad suit. Funny thing is, I don't recall any of the news readers on CNN promising to be all over George W. Bush after his election victories. CNN and its news readers are such Republican tools! We should expect the Obama administration to be taking fire from these fools from Day One.
Posted by: Taobhan on November 5, 2008 at 5:33 PM | PERMALINK
I was watching CNN when they asked this question and I instantly thought G.W.B. I was speechless to hear them say Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. I was literally yelling WTF! at my TV. What about 2002-2006! Dumb asses!
Posted by: k2readone on November 5, 2008 at 9:17 PM | PERMALINK
Campbell Brown was on the Daily Show last week. I thought she was going to break her arm by patting herself on the back so hard. She asked actual questions of Tucker Bounds and tried to make him answer. What a gal! She was so proud of her new show on CNN where she holds everyone accountable. She seemed to be on TDS for the sole reason of announcing to the world that NOW she was a serious journalist.
Too bad this toughness was absent from her and her colleagues when it really mattered, when we really needed them, before good men and women were sent to die for a lie about Iraq. Brown wasn't serious then, and we can't take her seriously now. You don't get to suddenly declare "I'm a serious journalist now."
She and her colleagues cashed in their credibility cheerleading for the build-up to the Iraq war. It's too late for them. We yawn at their doggerel and await a new generation of uncompromised, serious journalists.
Posted by: David H. on November 6, 2008 at 5:10 AM | PERMALINK