Awesome!

This is going to be litigated until hell freezes over. I can just hear the wingnuts crying foul if somehow Dems get to a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and Coleman's loss is what cinched it. Life is going to be miserable if Obama has to kiss Lieberman's ass for that 60th vote

Hey, sorry for the off-topic, but--

Did anyone catch Keith Olbermann on "The View" today? I missed it, but heard that Hasselbeck had the audacity to shame Keith for telling the "I can see Russia from my house" joke while commenting on a football game...He felt it had become such a mainstream/cultural joke (thanks to SNL and others) that it aptly applied to the analysis he was giving. Good for you Kieth--I agree.

But here's the thing--What nerve of her--she actually brazenly adorned a custom made tee on The View show only about ten days ago that actually read: "Great AmeriCAIN Hero".

So that's okay and the joke Keith made wasn't?
I don't think so, Miss Ditzhead...

Talk about unprofessional and conflict of interest!

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Gawd, I hate Hasselbeck. She gets away with aggressively spewing out all kinds of untruths in a real Bill O'Reilly fashion..I can see why she loved Palin so much--they had a lot of Pit-Bull in common.

Go tell her Keith!

I wonder what the odds are of Nate Silver becoming the next Alan Greenspan - in a good way, I mean.

And thinking people give a shit about Hasselbeck's opinion...why? Before the McCain campaign, I'd never heard of either Sarah Palin or Elizabeth Hasselbeck, and now that it's over I really wish both of those dumbasses would shut up and go away.

I'm glad Steve brought attention to the fact that our Secretary of State is a DFLer. This will be a primary determinant of the wingnut reaction to the recount, in either outcome scenario. If Franken is deemed the winner, it's because Mark Ritchie is an evil socialist election-stealing lib'rul thief. And if Coleman wins, then the election is obviously a mandate for the MN GOP because even the evil socialist election-stealing lib'rul thief Mark Ritchie wasn't able to steal it from him.

While I'm relieved to hear that, despite having a GOP governor, Minnesota has a DFL SOS, I still find it rather disturbing that the job of SOS is a partisan position in the first place. If there's any position which begs to be filled on a professiona, non-partisan basis, it's SOS.

I know that, due to the Federal nature of our system, a change like the above would require 50 separate changes to state laws, but that's an effort well worth making if we want to ensure that elections aren't likely to be stolen as they were in '00 and '04, where the SOS in Florida + Ohio was, in each case, the GOP chairman of GWB's electoral committee.

-Z

Midwest Product, the other option is that your SOS runs a recount that's above reproach and completely transparent. When Franken wins, we claim victory and say, "Hey you Republican douches, just 'cuz you had some corrupt, painted clown of a SOS in Florida steal an election in 2000 doesn't mean that the Democratic party can't do it right. We're the party of fair and open procedures, and Franken is ours. Nyah, nyah, nyah. Now suck it!"

Or something like that...

If and when Coleman goes down, he's gonna whine like he invented the word. Like many of the GOP responses over the years, it won't have a thing to do with facts or reality.

steve duncan, even if the D's get to 59, it's a fantasy to think that Lieberman will be 60 whether or not he keeps his chairmanship anyway. Which is why it's a risk-free strategy to boot him, call the GOP on their filibuster bluffs and constantly tell the American people that a small band of GOP extremists are thwarting the public will.

Joe Lie votes with the dems over 90% of the time. Carrying on about booting him will only ensure that he votes against us more often. I know, I would like to see someone spare me breathing the same air as that clown, but I would rather have his vote 90% of the time than 0%

Carrying on about booting him will only ensure that he votes against us more often.

Why?

And he really doesn't vote with Democrats 90% of the time.

Off topic, but Senate-related: 168,785 more people cast votes for President in Georgia than Senator: that's 4.35 of the total vote.
I have two possible explanations: trickery with Diebold machines (unprovable if true), or a large number of Georgia Voters were so turned off by the Senate campaign and wall to wall commercials toward the end, they chose none of the above.
From the ATL Journal-Constitution:

"In North Carolina, the Senate undervote was 1.1 percent of the presidential total. In Oregon it was 3.3 percent, and 2.3 percent in New Hampshire. The only state where the total approached Georgia’s was Louisiana, at 4.0 percent.

So who were these people? Were they Obama voters who just cast their ballots for their favorite and walked out? The evidence for that is weak. In Fulton County, which went for Obama by more than 2-1, the undervote was 2.85 percent, lower than the undervote rate in McCain counties such as Cobb (3.4 percent) and Cherokee (3.1 percent). In DeKalb County the rate was 4.4 percent, about the state average.

So what’s YOUR explanation? "

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/11/10/168785_missing_voters_in_senat.html
I think this means that Georgia is still viable for Martin, especially if his ads can differentiate him from Chambliss, and effectively answer the "Fair Tax" idiocy Chambliss has made an issue. It is, as has been repeatedly said, all about turnout....

Wonder what the undervote was state-by-state where someone voted in the Senate and/or Congressional race, but failed to vote in the Presidential race?

No agenda, just seriously wondering if it happens.

I can just hear the wingnuts crying foul if somehow Dems get to a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and Coleman's loss is what cinched it.

but wingnut whining will be drowned out by the joy of liberals cheering Coleman's getting the boot.

Steve, what does ", but even if he's given up on avoiding a recount." mean?

Steve, what does ", but even if he's given up on avoiding a recount." mean?

It means Steve forgot to take the word "if" out of that sentence.

We love you, Steve, but your proofreading of late...dood.

My money's on Franken.

If Franken wins Bill O'Reilly will have a heart attack. Let's all keep hoping.

Good thing Franken didn't have to rely on the grandiose likes of Olbermann non-voters who arrogantly imagine they are above the fray and justify such refusal to vote as "SYMBOLIC".