November 11, 2008
RANDOM THOUGHT.... I was just wondering how this guy in Tennessee is doing right now.
A new father has secretly named his baby girl Sarah McCain Palin after the Republican ticket for president and vice president.
Mark Ciptak of Elizabethton put that name on the documents for the girl's birth certificate, ignoring the name Ava Grace, which he and his wife had picked earlier.
"I don't think she believes me yet," he told the Kingsport Times-News for a story to be published Tuesday. "It's going to take some more convincing."
Ciptak, a blood bank employee for the American Red Cross, said he named his third child after John McCain and Sarah Palin to "to get the word out" about the campaign. "I took one for the cause," he said.
Just to be clear, this guy named his daughter Sarah McCain Palin without telling his wife first. He told reporters, "I sort of secretively went behind her back and changed the paperwork."
I thought of this because of the speculation about "Barack" possibly becoming a more common first name. I suspect, though, that the number of children named after failed presidential tickets is still extremely small.
At least, I hope it is.
—Steve Benen 3:15 PM
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To hell with that guy. I'm wondering how his daughter is doing. I hope her mother was able to file for the name change and the divorce without having to make more than one trip to the courthouse.
Posted by: Kevin on November 11, 2008 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK
Be nice.
Posted by: Adlai Dukakis on November 11, 2008 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK
Sorta reminds you of Major Major Major doesn't it?
You sure he's not an alfalfa farmer who gets paid to not grow alfalfa?
Posted by: neilt on November 11, 2008 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK
She's already been given a nickname: Loser
Posted by: ew on November 11, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK
Wow. First he disrespects his wife's wishes on something that she will not be able to ignore and will be reminded of every day for the rest of her life. Second, he's that committed to that ticket? Both things speak volumes.
Posted by: nerd on November 11, 2008 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK
Wow II. A professional vampire. What are the odds he'd be attracted to a professional bloodsucker and a guy who appears to have no blood at all?
Posted by: ericfree on November 11, 2008 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK
I'm pretty sure his wife gave him a couple of new names--and didn't give him in say in the process.
Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on November 11, 2008 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK
I'm pretty sure his life isn't worth living right now. . .
Posted by: Michigoose on November 11, 2008 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK
In a just world, he'd be forced to change his name to Adlai Kefauver.
Posted by: scott_m on November 11, 2008 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK
Family values in action.
Posted by: SteveB on November 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM | PERMALINK
Sarah McCain Palin has been given her own show on Fox News. Although the first few episodes consisted of nothing more than gurgling and whimpers, critics are comparing her insights favorably with those of her namesake.
Posted by: Chris S. on November 11, 2008 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK
Dishonest: They name is Republican. Faced with the truth, he lies, anyway, to his wife! OTH, she may be a perfect match for him and go along, like a good Christian woman.
peace,
st john
Posted by: st john on November 11, 2008 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK
Clearly, news don't travel fast in Elizabethton, Tenn. Maybe they haven't heard of the loss yet, could be one of those places where Obama's win wasn't featured in the local newspaper.
Mark Ciptak, the proud father, probably also got a lot of back slaps and free shots of bourbon upon the announcement, and will have a hard time walking it back.
Maybe he can check with Sarah P if she's got any free names he can use, like slapshot or hockey-puck. Good substitutes.
Posted by: SteinL on November 11, 2008 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK
"I sort of secretively went behind her back and changed the paperwork."
"Sort of?" Sort of the kind of weasel words and weasel behavior I would expect from a Republican family values voter.
Posted by: St George on November 11, 2008 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK
Cool!
Maybe someday his little girl can date my newborn son: George Eagleton McGovern!
Posted by: devil dog dem on November 11, 2008 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK
Clearly the pot calling the kettle black, here - I know for a fact that you're planning on naming your son Barack O. Benen.
Posted by: colin on November 11, 2008 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK
What a loser! He could have easily worked Spiro Milhouse Dornan in there.
Posted by: JoeW on November 11, 2008 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINK
Astonishingly foolish, and trendy to a fault. What a glimpse into insanity--or inanity?
Posted by: consider wisely always on November 11, 2008 at 3:49 PM | PERMALINK
At least "Sarah M. Palin" isn't a completely ridiculous name on its face, and will probably (hopefully) go largely unnoticed in ten or fifteen years. Could be worse -- I know a couple named Musick who named their new daughter "Sweetly Humming."
http://galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=91d3118ff074b815
Seriously.
Posted by: Andy on November 11, 2008 at 3:50 PM | PERMALINK
I work in the mental health field, and it is classical tragedy that a weird name
haunts some of these people. It's a cruel, poor destiny-- a rather determinative role for some...
Posted by: consider wisely always on November 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM | PERMALINK
Must be a lovely marriage.
Good luck apologizing for that bout of stupidity.
Posted by: jonno on November 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM | PERMALINK
In a just world, he'd be forced to change his name to Adlai Kefauver.
Posted by: scott_m on November 11, 2008 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK
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no, in a just world his name would become SARA PALLIN'S PERSONAL BUTT PLUG ..
Posted by: stormskies on November 11, 2008 at 4:02 PM | PERMALINK
Makes you wonder where the wingnuts get the idea that Obama is "concealing the truth" about his birth certificate.
If Caribou Barbie plows through the door of national politics and demonstrates once and for all that she is the "Tom Tancredo of the North", Sarah McCain Palin may be in court at her earliest legal opportunity changing her name to Ava Grace.
Posted by: bcinaz on November 11, 2008 at 4:05 PM | PERMALINK
All things considered... Sarah McCain Palin Ciptak is no worse than Ava Grace Ciptak, "ciptak" being the sticking point. All words beginning with "cip" (in several Slavic languages) refer to "new-hatched chicken" but, in popular parlance (at least in Polish), refer to the c-word (though nicely meant. "cunny", maybe?).
I remember being in a Warsaw electronics shop years ago, looking for an answering machine for my father and discussing the various ways the machines recorded the outgoing and the incoming messages. One of them recorded the outgoing message on a "chip". There was no Polish word for it and the young man had to say "nagrywaja na cipe". I thought he'd die of embarrassment, having to use the word to a middle-aged woman.
No wonder the mother wanted to offset it with Ava Grace...
Posted by: exlibra on November 11, 2008 at 4:21 PM | PERMALINK
If you looked at a list of all fervent male Palin supporters, and another list of Darwin Award nominees, I believe you'd see a significant amount of overlap.
Posted by: bluestatedon on November 11, 2008 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK
Gee, a marriage made in heaven. That's what I call good communication. Hey, but wait--at least the guy voted, right? That's one over the utter arrogance of Keith Olbermann.
Gee--good thing Prop. 8 special commenter who loves the idea fo talking about the importance of love, but otherwise refuses to vote is not a resident of CA wherein he would have helped bring down the very proposition he claims is so critical to uphold.
Posted by: at least the guy voted on November 11, 2008 at 4:52 PM | PERMALINK
Clearly, news don't travel fast in Elizabethton, Tenn. Maybe they haven't heard of the loss yet, could be one of those places where Obama's win wasn't featured in the local newspaper.
Steve's post wasn't clear -- this happened BEFORE the election. Which is why it's funny that he's now stuck with a daily reminder that his ticket lost.
Posted by: Mnemosyne on November 11, 2008 at 5:10 PM | PERMALINK
She'll be nicknamed Vlad. As in "Vlad the M. Palin"
This is like the guy in the UK who, on hearing that his favourite club had just signed their new hope, got a picture of the player tattooed on his chest. Needless to say, the player was traded after one season.
Posted by: royalblue_tom on November 11, 2008 at 5:18 PM | PERMALINK
This guy and his actions are a complete FAIL. Only a completely self-absorbed asshole would brand a helpless infant with the twin burdens of failed politics and flawed intelligence just to "take one for the team".
Hey jackass, you're little stunt won't turn you into Joe the Plumber™ and besides, the election is over. Your "team" got its ass kicked.
Love,
BfD
Posted by: Bedtime for Democracy on November 11, 2008 at 5:31 PM | PERMALINK
But remember, he took one for the cause. Not his hapless daughter or his luckless wife. No, he took the hit by sneaking behind his spouse's back to brand his child with a loser name. Brave fellow.
Posted by: shortstop on November 11, 2008 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK
To scott_m:
Good one! Best laugh I've had today.
Posted by: PS, St. Paul on November 11, 2008 at 6:20 PM | PERMALINK
This goes back to my conspiracy theory that rednecks oppose gay marriage because they might last longer.
Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on November 11, 2008 at 6:32 PM | PERMALINK
At least he told her. When my farther was born September 11, 1919, his father wanted to name him Benjamin Franklin, his mother wanted to name Art. He went to school as Art, was drafted as Art, got married as Art and had a social security number issued to Art. He never needed a birth certificate until it became time for him to draw social security payment—long after both parents were dead. That’s when he found out. There was no birth certificate for Art born on September 11, 1919 but there was one for Benjamin Franklin. It took a lawyer and the better part of a year to straighten that out.
Posted by: mike on November 11, 2008 at 7:20 PM | PERMALINK
I haven't heard what Mrs. Ciptak's response was, but I suspect Ciptak has his work cut out for him. If he had to sneak behind her back while she was busy with labor and delivery, that doesn't speak well for his backbone. And let's face it: "If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy."
Posted by: damselfly1213 on November 11, 2008 at 7:51 PM | PERMALINK
As Stephen Colbert said, "good luck ever having sex with your wife again." He(or Stewart) also said the line about filing for divorce and the name change in 1 trip.
Posted by: psychobroad on November 11, 2008 at 8:57 PM | PERMALINK
As for the Obama babynaming trend, I know a gay couple who are in the process of adopting 2 little boys from the state. One of their little darlings is biracial and they're thinking of giving him the middle name Barack or Obama when the adoption & naming process if finalized.
Posted by: zoe kentucky on November 11, 2008 at 9:51 PM | PERMALINK
I remember hearing of a baby born in the mid 80's named Reagan Bush. I can still taste the vomit in the back of my throat.
Posted by: scooter on November 11, 2008 at 9:53 PM | PERMALINK
mike, @19:20,
Yeah, fathers can get pretty secretive, when it comes to naming their kids...
My parents agreed on Tamara (after my Mother's Mother, Tamar, who was Jewish; just add the -a ending, for Slavic feminine) and that's what my Father was supposed to register (I was a C-section in the days it took 3 weeks before you were discharged from the hospital, so it was his job, not my Mother's, to do the duty). *Months* later, my Mother discovered I was registered as "Tamara Irena". When confronted, my Father had several excuses:
1) "Tamara" is an odd name in Poland, let's give her another chance before the other kids make her life a misery.
2) We're both atheists, we won't have her baptized or confirmed, so she'll never get a second name and it'll look odd, compared to everyone else. Besides, my family (deeply Catholic) will be happy.
3) "Irena" is the saint of the day she was born on (he had not been *born* an atheist and could reel off his saints calendar without a problem). Besides, it means "peace", so maybe she won't cry too much.
4) I did put "Tamara" *first*; what are you bitchin' about?
Posted by: exlibra on November 11, 2008 at 11:05 PM | PERMALINK
Good thing I was born too soon to be named Adlai.
Posted by: BroD on November 11, 2008 at 11:21 PM | PERMALINK
Sarah Palin will someday go down in history as the mother of President Bristol Palin, first single mom to attain the title. So Sarah will be the First Mother, and Ciptak will be the one laughing then.
Posted by: kth on November 12, 2008 at 9:43 AM | PERMALINK