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November 13, 2008

SOLIDARITY.... This week, highlighting her sophisticated understanding of modern media, Sarah Palin lashed out at her critics, blaming "some blogger" sitting "in their parents' basement." To drive the point home, Palin, in the same Fox News interview, referred to bloggers as "kids in pajamas sitting in the basement of their parents' homes"

Last night, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow noted Palin's bizarre criticism -- and did the show in her pajamas. (via Ali Frick)

I realize that blogging is one of the many subjects Palin doesn't understand. I also realize she's inclined to criticize subjects that confuse her. But this talk about pajamas and basements is getting pretty tiresome.

What's more, it speaks to a certain technological curve that Republicans are far behind on. Frank Luntz, speaking at a panel discussion at the Republican Governors Association yesterday, noted Barack Obama's enormous email list. "He's got 10 million names and our candidate doesn't know how to use this," Luntz said, holding up a BlackBerry. "There is a problem there."

Yes, and his running mate is so far behind, she thinks bloggers are pajama-clad basement-dwellers.

Isn't it about time the Republican Party catch up with contemporary trends?

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Michelle Malkin blogs in her pyjamas from her parents' basement? John Hindraker blogs from his parents' basement in his pyjamas?

Who knew?

Posted by: Joel on November 13, 2008 at 10:16 AM | PERMALINK

Steve, the answer to your question is an emphatic NO!.

Keep the troglodytes in the Dark Ages.

Posted by: wvng on November 13, 2008 at 10:18 AM | PERMALINK

Quote: 'Isn't it about time the Republican Party catch up with contemporary trends?'

For our sake, let them remain ignorant.

Posted by: Bill D. on November 13, 2008 at 10:19 AM | PERMALINK

Palin is now confusing bloggers with gamers.

Amusing......

Posted by: ArtEclectic on November 13, 2008 at 10:19 AM | PERMALINK

The fissure in the GOP gets wider and wider. Speaking recently with long time MA GOP loyalists (who would qualify as socialists in True Wingnut Land), they can't stomach her drivel.

When I mention things like, 'Yeah, teaching Creationism as science isn't going to help our kids compete', the look on their faces says it all.

Posted by: mojo on November 13, 2008 at 10:20 AM | PERMALINK

I know why TV shows want video of Palin.

They are all hoping to be the ones that catch her saying something so egregiously stupid that the show can claim to be the one who ended the career of Sarah Palin (governor and former VP candidate).

Other politicians just don't have the potential for the big disaster footage.

Posted by: Carl Nyberg on November 13, 2008 at 10:20 AM | PERMALINK

The GOP doesn't need to catch up -- it sets contemporary trends.

First they looted Baghdad, then they looted Wall Street, now they're looting Washington.

Posted by: skimble on November 13, 2008 at 10:22 AM | PERMALINK

World's worst science teacher?

Someone needs to investigate the claim that her father was a science teacher.
He must have been a complete blank to raise a zero like Sarah.

God knows what he was teaching kids in his charge.
Critical thinking skills? Apparently not.

Posted by: koreyel on November 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM | PERMALINK

"she thinks bloggers are pajama-clad basement-dwellers"

This coming from an elected Governor from Alaska who "receives" guests from the Mccain campaign while wrapped in a towel. Class act that Palinaroundwithterrorists, class act...

Posted by: stevio on November 13, 2008 at 10:24 AM | PERMALINK

Liberals wish they could have a spokestress as eloquent and hot as Governess Palin.That's why they obsess about her so much, whether they are wearing pajamas or not.

Posted by: Al on November 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM | PERMALINK

Gov Pawlenty(sp) when asked about Palin put Palin in the National Republican perspective this AM on NPR. He Noted the Republican party needs to return to it's roots ,attract Americans of all types ( not very Republican right now) and is not about one persons personality.Hopefully these words will take hold. This whole thing is tiresome, (yawn) Guess I'll go and get into my pj's.

Rachel Maddow is so heartening with her wonderful sense of humor. what a Joy!

Posted by: MLJohnston on November 13, 2008 at 10:27 AM | PERMALINK

It could be that she's dumb--okay, just messin' witcha; of course she's dumb--but she's also targeting and reinforcing the prejudices, bewilderment and fears of the most ignorant segments of the GOP base. In other words, she could be totally up to date on this stuff and she'd still say this stupid shit.

She's not talking to us and she's decidedly not talking to Republicans who might push back against the lunatics now running their party. She is rallying her own troops.

Posted by: shortstop on November 13, 2008 at 10:28 AM | PERMALINK

Okay, by far the best Al in a long while, whoever did it.

Posted by: shortstop on November 13, 2008 at 10:29 AM | PERMALINK

Has anyone noticed/commented that the only times Palin is coherent is when she's repeating some catchphrase, rehearsed meme, or cliche? Otherwise, she doesn't seem able on her own to string five words together to make a comprehensible complete sentence.

Posted by: Greg Worley on November 13, 2008 at 10:29 AM | PERMALINK

Typically after a presidential election, the VP of the losing party usually falls into obscurity. Why has this not happened in Palin's case? Why is she getting more face time (than ever) after the election? Does she not know that she is to politics what Brittney Spears is to celebrity? Oh that's right, Brittney still gets a lot of face time(for being Brittney), years later...

Posted by: Mick on November 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM | PERMALINK

She's speaking now, of, shit, Joe the fuckin' Plumber! Somebody please pull the plug! And the old farts are digging it.

And the big hair.

She's Sigourney Weaver in "Working Girls"!

GAH!

Posted by: MissMudd on November 13, 2008 at 10:31 AM | PERMALINK

For the record, I blog naked.

Posted by: Doctor Biobrain on November 13, 2008 at 10:34 AM | PERMALINK

Brian Williams of NBC was one of the first to raise this last year, lamenting, on The Daily Show I think, that "some kid who lives with his mother is now placed on the same level as me," or words to that effect. A real touch of the Marie Antoinette imagery that's plagued the Republican Party since Taft and Coolidge: "How dare these little people criticize me! How dare they raise themselves up to stand as tall as I! It's taking the aristocracy out of our democracy!" That Palin should be doing this before she returns to her doublewide is deeply funny, but a lot of people cleave to the Republicans just for the aspiration to a class they'll never achieve, either in society or character.

Of course, the word "blog" doesn't help establish credibility. What a regurgitation.

Posted by: ericfree on November 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM | PERMALINK

Well, to be fair, there is this consortium of mostly right-wing bloggers called Pajamas Media. So maybe that's where Palin is getting it from.

But yeah, I'm sick of Palin. If McCain aides were still spreading rumors about her to torpedo her future, I'd be interested. But since it seems they're not, why does anyone care what Sarah Palin thinks about anything these days?

Posted by: David Bailey on November 13, 2008 at 10:39 AM | PERMALINK

'Isn't it about time the Republican Party catch up with contemporary trends?' - Mr. Benen

Only if they have some ideas with some sort of contemporary relevance. Which they don't. And if they did they would be Democrats. They haven't been wandering the desert near long enough to have gotten any sense of why they are there. They want their old lives back today. Without doin' nuthin'.

And by the way, the election was nice but Democrats are nowhere near out of the woods at indicating we can do more than win elections at this point. Now it's time to make something happen and when I watch the crap going on with Lieberman and his protectors, I am glad to see RepubCo blasting away at it's own feet and will be happy for that to continue 'til I don't know when.

The Democratic machine ain't fixed just because RepubCo is so screwed.

Posted by: burro on November 13, 2008 at 10:39 AM | PERMALINK

"Pajama-clad blogger" is so 1998, so dial-up. Surely today's blog luser is loitering in Barnes and Noble or Panera Bread, leeching the free wi-fi.

Posted by: kth on November 13, 2008 at 10:40 AM | PERMALINK

This is all very interesting, I'm sure.

But can anyone tell me where I can get footie pajamas that don't itch?

Posted by: Homer on November 13, 2008 at 10:41 AM | PERMALINK

Wow -- the patron saint of right-wing crazies doesn't take Pajamas Media seriously. Glenn Reynolds will now shift all his attention to becoming a robot (before this, it was only 90 percent).

Posted by: Brian on November 13, 2008 at 10:44 AM | PERMALINK

My 5th-grade son does his 7th-grade pre-Algebra lessons downstairs in his jammies, sometimes as early as 3 AM if he wakes up early. Wouldn't that mean that my 10-year-old is better equipped to take one of those "3 AM calls" than Sarah Palin?

By the way---he knows that Africa is a continent; he knows that Alaska doesn't share a border with Russia; he thinks that the name "Palin" traces back to the Ostrogoths---so it's probably safe to say that Sarah Palin's ancestors were just as good at destroying civilizations then (hint: think Roman Empire here) as she would have been to the United States as VP....

Posted by: Steve W. on November 13, 2008 at 10:45 AM | PERMALINK

So nice to see the republicans twist in the wind.

And Palin is great. She is a one woman freak show. She has the ability to single handedly reduce the republican brand into a univerally understood object of ridicule.

She is truning the republican party into a punch line. And she doesn't see it.

Posted by: Northern Observer on November 13, 2008 at 10:45 AM | PERMALINK

What about the Cheetos?

Posted by: Brojo on November 13, 2008 at 10:46 AM | PERMALINK

Well, David Lat has bragged on occasion about working in his pajamas, but he's probably an exception.

Posted by: JRD on November 13, 2008 at 10:50 AM | PERMALINK

Speaking of Brian Williams, if he were more of a reporter (think Cronkite) rather than a blow-dried talking head schill for a major Defense Department contractor, maybe he could distinguish himself from the bloggers.

Posted by: BuzzMon on November 13, 2008 at 10:51 AM | PERMALINK

"'He's got 10 million names and our candidate doesn't know how to use this,' Luntz said, holding up a BlackBerry. 'There is a problem there.'

Especially problematic when the campaign is claiming that their candidate invented the Blackberry.

Posted by: Nothing but the Ruth on November 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK

They don't believe in evolution, so they have no clue that they're on the losing end of it.

Posted by: Saint Zak on November 13, 2008 at 10:53 AM | PERMALINK

Michelle Malkin blogs in her pyjamas from her parents' basement?
At least the GOP bloggers get their pajamas from Neiman Marcus.

Posted by: AJB on November 13, 2008 at 10:53 AM | PERMALINK

Slightly off the subject of blogging but on the subject of what a ninnyhammer she is, but the other day I saw an interview with Palin reported in an Alaskan newspaper where she was going on about how in Alaska men and women are equal, not like in the lower 48 where sexism in the media was responsible for her downfall.

It occurred to me that Alaska leads the US in rapes by a large margin. Now either half of those rapes are women attacking men (hardly likely) or rape is considered normal in Alaska (more likely, given that there is such a large contingent of rightwing religionists there who moved in from OK and TX to work the oil fields.)

Posted by: Texas Aggie on November 13, 2008 at 10:56 AM | PERMALINK

Heh, the Pajamahideen! Well, are the right-wing blogger assholes "too" then? BTW we already shot down Luntz's mispprehension about McCain, who apparently does BB. As a clever commenter said before ~ "They don't even know what's wrong with their candidate."

Another interesting Sarahtwist was the "hoax" story about Palin's "Africa confusion" source. The source turned out to be a hoax, but as the story at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081113/ap_en_tv/palin_hoax_1 admitted,

The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin — not the Fox News story itself. While Palin has denied that she mistook Africa for a country, the veracity of that report was not put in question by the revelation that Eisenstadt is a phony.

That is about as perfectly parsed and well put as journalism can make the point. (BTW I am doubtful anyway since I don't think she's *that* dumb.) But skimmers and LIVs will see the headline "MSNBC retracts false Palin story; others duped" or Drudge's liner "MSNBC, Bloggers Duped Into Palin Hoax..." and figure the whole story is fake. It reminds me of the theory that the initial claim of Palin pretending to be the mother of Bristol's baby, was just a bait-and-spoil to stave off critique that Bristol really was pregnant (with another baby) after all.

Also, Google for "wasilla town hall meeting minutes" and have fun, for my "there you go again" moment.

Posted by: Neil B on November 13, 2008 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK

I thought the essence of conservatism was that it was behind the times.

Posted by: The Critic on November 13, 2008 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK

Speaking of Al!: I and others have imagined - now that the "real Al" is supposedly gone - just what is behind the continued appearance of this mythic character. "Al"s pronouncements are so perfectly, archetypally put, it is as if they come from a Platonic world and not any real person/s. He is more like "the men in black" or "Springheel Jack" and sightings of the BVM (see Jacques Vallée) than anything human I can imagine. It is like seeing crop circles and thinking: Oh yeah, "hoaxers" do this, ... but my God, all those many and very round circles in one short Northern night? How did they do the Mandelbrot outline, those elaborate designs etc - and you get this creepy feeling it just can't be from any bunch of normal people, if people, at all. As I once suggested, is "Al" an Al-ien, in some sense?

Well, I'll risk giving you a hint: I've had "something to do with" that, but not enough ...

Posted by: Neil B on November 13, 2008 at 11:10 AM | PERMALINK

Ahem.

How quickly Palin forgets who brought her to the nation’s attention. It was a conservative blogger who lived in his parents’ basement.

University of Colorado-Colorado Springs student and right wing blogger Adam Brickley was given credit for being the first to envision Palin as a Republican vice-presidential candidate via his website: http://www.palinforvp.blogspot.com/.

Sarah and Todd Palin personally called to thank Brickley after she was selected as McCain’s running mate. Brickley gained national media attention for his successful Palin VP lobbying and here is his appearance on the Colbert Report. The interview starts around 6:00 minute mark of the video.

This REALLY should get circulated more.

Posted by: gwangung on November 13, 2008 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK

I blog from my mom's basement, in pajamas.

And I vote.

Posted by: Jack Keefe on November 13, 2008 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK

Palin billed Alaska while working from home. Maybe Wolf should have asked if she ever worked in her pj's.

Posted by: Th on November 13, 2008 at 11:21 AM | PERMALINK

Scarah should note the nearly 1 million raised for Michelle Bachmans opponent after all those pyjama clad bloggers were outraged. Kind of like a community organization ...except with serious financial power. The kind of power you hapless idiot that will enable "our" base to fund any opponent of yours , if and when you choose to run. Eat shit and die

Posted by: John R on November 13, 2008 at 11:22 AM | PERMALINK

I wonder what it's like to live inside that brain of hers...maybe ignorance truly is bliss?

Posted by: maybe ignorance is bliss for Palin on November 13, 2008 at 11:26 AM | PERMALINK

Please, Sarah Bimbo, continue to publicly celebrate your ignorance. As the representative of the Budweister Booboisie, you even managed to lose some folks on election day who I thought beforehand were charter members of that group. If you run in 2012, you'll guarantee that I will be Republican-free for the remainder of what four generations of males in my family says is my expected lifespan. Please please please, keep on keepin' on.

Of course, if Ted continues to loose the vote count, we may not have Sarah to laugh at much longer.

Posted by: TCinLA on November 13, 2008 at 11:30 AM | PERMALINK

And who really wears pajamas anyhow? I haven't had them since I was a teenager in the '60s, since by then it had become a sure indication of nerdiness and douchenozzlery.

Posted by: bluestatedon on November 13, 2008 at 11:32 AM | PERMALINK

Spokestress? Governess???

Al, you old troglodyte you! Thanks ever so much for demonstrating so clearly that wingnuts lacking frontal lobes and opposable thumbs can use computers while wearing their bathrobe, just like real human beings.

Posted by: TCinLA on November 13, 2008 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK

Sarah Palin is mocking those who blog in their pajamas because she blogs in the nude.

Posted by: Of Course on November 13, 2008 at 11:34 AM | PERMALINK

The guy who started the movement to draft Sarah Palin for the Republican ticket did it on a blog that he literally ran from his mother's house. He said so himself when Colbert interviewed him.

Posted by: MillionthMonkey on November 13, 2008 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

"Liberals wish they could have a spokestress as eloquent and hot as Governess Palin.That's why they obsess about her so much, whether they are wearing pajamas or not."

I think Obama is way hotter and way more eloquent than Sarah Palin.

Posted by: kgb on November 13, 2008 at 11:56 AM | PERMALINK

Miss Palin is mocking bloggers because she attempted to take-on main stream media with failure (funny how you need those folks went your running a self-enlisted campaign) and now she must change the appearance of her statements. I say, wear those pajama bottoms with pride. In fact, let all go buy a few extra pair, bloggers, and readers alike. Lets keep her in political darkest where her foolishness belongs.

Posted by: tinkeroom on November 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK

Adam Brickley, the pajama-clad-parental-basement dweller who takes credit for having invented Sarah Palin also blogs and snarks as "Elephantman." For those still sticking in with Salon, he used to appear in their letter pages frequently, and probably still does. A real fresh wind of rightwing bile. Ah, the past, replicated in the future.

And on a not-unrelated note, Media Matters' "County Fair" (a WM advertiser) ran a story the other day lamenting the passing of small and medium size print newspapers. Like the MSM they ape, if the papers hadn't hewed so faithfully to the Right portion of the CenterRight meme, choosing to hire there, print rightwing stories while ignoring the progressive viewpoint and running Jurassic losers like Cal Thomas over and over, they might still be around. Guess they didn't get the message ten years ago about the dawn of an information ownership society. We can mourn the idea of their passing, but the reality was something awful.

Posted by: ericfree on November 13, 2008 at 12:05 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't it about time the Republican Party catch up with contemporary trends?

Speaking of which, Andrew Sullivan liked this PJ O'Rourke piece even though it suffers from some of the same problems:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=15791&R=13CD722B2E

"Sensible adults are conservative in most aspects of their private lives. If this weren't so, imagine driving on I-95: The majority of drivers are drunk, stoned, making out, or watching TV, while the rest are trying to calculate the size of their carbon footprints on the backs of Whole Foods receipts while negotiating lane changes."

"Nobody with kids is a liberal, except maybe one pothead in Marin County."

"Few practicing Catholics vote Democratic anymore except in Massachusetts where they put something in the communion wafers."

O'Rourke also describes a "full-on" liberal as being a "hemp-wearing, kelp-eating, mandala-tatted, fool-coifed" person with "socks in sandals".

If the right thinks that they can cling to these outdated caricatures of the left, then they'll keep losing at the polls.

Posted by: TG Chicago on November 13, 2008 at 12:09 PM | PERMALINK

I think Obama is way hotter and way more eloquent than Sarah Palin.

No kidding. Finally a PILF.

Posted by: not about to sign this on November 13, 2008 at 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, I'm blogging skyclad now (but not from Barnes & Noble, and sadly, not at my mother's). The laptop keeps my lap warm. Pajamas? How Republican is that?

Posted by: ericfree on November 13, 2008 at 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

Jane Hamsher at firedoglake posted bios of some of the top liberal bloggers the other day (alas, not of our own Steve Benen). All of them had advanced degrees and/or law degrees (from schools far more prestigious than the University of Idaho) and impressive career resumes. And I'm sure if she added to the list of liberal bloggers, we would find the same to be true.

More and more, every day, Palin reminds me of someone I used to work with. Amazing chutzpah and self confidence when it is not warranted by the facts.

Posted by: Hannah on November 13, 2008 at 12:12 PM | PERMALINK

How times change - In the '50s, it was the pajama-clad Chinese hordes crossing the Yalu.

Today, it is all of the pajama-clad blogging hordes crossing the Yukon as a family of five flees south on a dog sled.

Posted by: berttheclock on November 13, 2008 at 12:16 PM | PERMALINK

Frank Luntz said "OUR CANDIDATE"? Political polster and GOP cajones massager Frank has dropped all pretense of being a paid hooker? That Frank Luntz?

Posted by: Foobar on November 13, 2008 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

It's a well-known fact that it is right-wing bloggers (and commenters) who operate from their parents' basements.

But I resemble the remark about pajamas. (Hey, it's hard to be current from the West Coast -- you gotta get up early!)

Posted by: Cal Gal on November 13, 2008 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK

Some smart entrepreneurial type needs to manufacture Blogger Pajamas in time for Christmas.

Posted by: Karen on November 13, 2008 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK

Thursday, Nov. 13, 2008, CNN/TIME Website

"Anybody here tonight that has thought about the 2012 presidential election needs to keep their eye on the ball."

HALEY BARBOUR,
Mississippi governor, suggesting that his peers at the Republican governor's conference focus on the 38 gubernatorial seats up for election in 2010

Posted by: tinkeroom on November 13, 2008 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

You people wear clothes while they are blogging? Who knew.....


Isn't it about time the Republican Party catch up with contemporary trends?

The GOP is aware of all Internet traditions!

Posted by: Tiparillo on November 13, 2008 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

Palin ... is so far behind, she thinks bloggers are pajama-clad basement-dwellers.

Coming from the towel-clad hotel-room dweller, it was probably a compliment.

Isn't it about time the Republican Party catch up with contemporary trends?

As demonstrated by the naked-blogger contingent here. (Penthouses optional.)

Posted by: Pyre on November 13, 2008 at 4:06 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't it about time the Republican Party catch up with contemporary trends?

You mean, like not caring about the color of peoples' skin, their sexual orientation, what God they worship, and so on? Like acknowledging that science provides a sensible framework for policy decisions? Acknowledging that human sexuality is a real and normal and natural thing? That the vast majority of people are not superlatively rich, but still deserve to be represented?

The Republican Party can't catch up with modern trends. They're still demonizing them. Email, the internet, Blackberries, all of these are both symbols and mechanisms of the things Republicans hate most: increasing communication, acceptance of diversity, and the democratization of society.

It may be that the party eventually changes, but if so, it will be just as dramatic of a change is it took to go from the party of Lincoln to the backwards, theocratic, demagogic mob they've got now.

Posted by: Brooks on November 13, 2008 at 6:19 PM | PERMALINK

You're right, Steve, now get dressed.

Posted by: SteveB on November 13, 2008 at 6:45 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter Al: Word salad = eloquent

Posted by: Kevin Carson on November 14, 2008 at 3:38 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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