November 17, 2008
NATIONAL REVIEW'S SHAKE-UPS CONTINUE.... Christopher Buckley was pushed out for praising Barack Obama; Kathleen Parker is persona non grata for failing to praise Sarah Palin, and the shake-ups at the National Review continue with David Frum's resignation.
...David Frum, a prominent conservative writer who enmeshed himself in a minor dustup during the campaign by turning negative on Governor Palin, is leaving, too. In an interview, he said he planned to leave the magazine, where he writes a popular blog, to strike out on his own on the Web. [...]
Mr. Frum said deciding to leave was amicable, but distancing himself from the magazine founded by his idol, Mr. Buckley, was not a hard decision. He said the controversy over Governor Palin's nomination for vice president was "symbolic of a lot of differences" between his views and those of National Review's.
"I am really and truly frightened by the collapse of support for the Republican Party by the young and the educated," he said.
I can't honestly say I've found Frum's perspective compelling, but I can acknowledge that he's been one of the magazine's better writers, and has been willing to at least question the party line from time to time.
Noting the recent departures, Andrew Sullivan added:
"[W]e are left with adolescent bilge from Kathryn-Jean Lopez and spittle-flecked postings from Mark Levin and Andy McCarthy and Mark Krikorian and Mark Steyn, it may indeed be time to call the era of National Review as a repository for intellectual debate over."
This has almost certainly been the case for quite a while, but if one were inclined to note the day and time the notion of intellectual debate at the National Review ended, I'd say it was around noon on Oct. 3, when Rich Lowry, an NR editor, explained that he sat "a little straighter" when Sarah Palin winked at the camera during a nationally televised debate, because it was "so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing." Lowry concluded, "It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America."
I'd stopped taking the magazine seriously long before then, but this was the proverbial nail in the coffin.
The New York Times noted the magazine "may" have lost its "reputation as the cradle for conservative intellectuals." You don't say.
—Steve Benen 3:50 PM
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I'd stopped taking the magazine seriously long before then, but this was the proverbial nail in the coffin.
Nails in the coffin are more of a gradual process.
I think we're looking at "jumping the shark" on this one. No?
Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on November 17, 2008 at 3:55 PM | PERMALINK
Is there a worse pundit than Kathryn Jean Lopez? She's a joke. What serious organization would have her on their rolls?
Posted by: g. powell on November 17, 2008 at 3:58 PM | PERMALINK
Worse yet, it may actually BE the cradle for conservative intellectuals.
Posted by: martin on November 17, 2008 at 4:00 PM | PERMALINK
I still think that Sarah Palin was speaking to me directly that night, which is why I can't wait for that cache of semi-automatics to arrive, as well as the manual I ordered for how to turn them into full Palinomatics.
This election has just begun, people!!
Posted by: Doctor Biobrain on November 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM | PERMALINK
Conservative Intellectual is an oxymoron on the order of military justice or jumbo shrimp.
Posted by: Cap'n Chucky on November 17, 2008 at 4:12 PM | PERMALINK
Worse yet, it may actually BE the cradle for conservative intellectuals.
Sadly, I think this is closer to the truth. Which is another way of saying that 'conservative intellectual' has become an oxymoron.
As Kung Fu Monkey said: "Modern American Conservatives have sunk to the intellectual and emotional level of the guy who thinks the stripper really likes him."
Posted by: Tom Hilton on November 17, 2008 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK
Cross-posted with Cap'n Chucky, obviously.
Posted by: Tom Hilton on November 17, 2008 at 4:15 PM | PERMALINK
"I am really and truly frightened by the collapse of support for the Republican Party by the young and the educated," he said.
Adding, "I thought they would have been totally into the War and Fear platform Richard Perle and I brought to the table."
Posted by: Jay B. on November 17, 2008 at 4:30 PM | PERMALINK
To my dying day I'll never understand the American Conservative's fascination with Canadian Tory Stooges like Frum and Steyn...
that being said, anybody else get the feeling that Frum is trying to position himself as the new Buckley?
Posted by: neilt on November 17, 2008 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK
I love the smell of wingnut purges in the morning.
Or at any other time of day, for that matter.
Posted by: low-tech cyclist on November 17, 2008 at 4:36 PM | PERMALINK
I am loath to argue, having been attacked in Limbaugh-ish manner too many times during and post Ray-gun but I DO want to ask some of my co-workers and one friend (an eye surgeon who volunteers in poor communities his skills for at least two weeks of every year) how they can possibly live with themselves. That any sentient being could have taken Palin or McCain seriously just defies all logic.
Posted by: Donna on November 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM | PERMALINK
"Conservative intellectuals"
There is no such beast or it is some kind of Yeti; mythical and mysterious and extremely camera shy. The National Review is (and in my opinion has always been) nothing but a culture war conduit high on itself.
Posted by: The Galloping Trollop on November 17, 2008 at 4:40 PM | PERMALINK
"Conservative intellectuals." Aren't they the ones who went right along with vilifying academics, scholars, experts, scientists, and "the elites"? Aren't they the same bunch who cheered at every one of G.W. Bush's hare-brained schemes and then doubled-down by clapping their flippers in antic delight at every stupid thing mouthed by the astonishingly ignorant Sarah Palin?
Intellectuals: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Posted by: Dennis-SGMM on November 17, 2008 at 4:44 PM | PERMALINK
Lowry caught one of those little starbursts and keeps it safe in his pocket.
Posted by: castanea on November 17, 2008 at 4:54 PM | PERMALINK
Buckley was such a dick. I once saw Buckley laughing on his TV show at a civil rights leader who talked about rats at night in poor kids' rooms in Harlem. It did not send little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the my living room.
Posted by: Bob M on November 17, 2008 at 5:05 PM | PERMALINK
My only prolonged exposure to David Frum was his appearance on Rachel Maddow's show last month, wherein he made a complete ass of himself trying to compare the tone of Maddow's show to the hateful anti-Obama outbursts that were being heard at Palin and McCain rallies. (!!!)
MADDOW: Do you think that my tone on this show is equivalent to people calling Barack Obama somebody who pals around with terrorists, people yelling from the audience at McCain-Palin rallies, Bomb Obama. Kill him. Off with his head. Traitor. Are you accusing me of an equivalence in tone?
FRUM: I don’t think that’s an important question. I think the question is, given the small plate of responsibility that you personally have, how do you manage that responsibility? The fact that other people fail in other ways is not an excuse for you failing in your way.
I have no idea where on the internet this clown will wind up at but I wouldn't even waste a mouse click on him or anything he writes.
Posted by: 3reddogs on November 17, 2008 at 5:05 PM | PERMALINK
Worse yet, it may actually BE the cradle for conservative intellectuals.
Posted by: martin on November 17, 2008 at 4:00 PM
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Worse for who ? Palin energized the people who were already on her side and were going to vote. The republican party is finally exposed for being the party of race baiters whose base consists of racists and religious zealots who want the government run by religion.
The backlash from Prop 8 has been unheard of and the backlash of minority bashing won this election. Not that the inequalities are not disgusting, but the fact that they can't keep their agendas hidden to me is cause for celebration.
Hip Hip Hurray... I hope Mad Dog Santorum becomes their national spokesman and leader.
Posted by: ScottW on November 17, 2008 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK
I agree. Lowry jumped the shark, big time.
Will he ever be taken seriously again? I sure hope not.
Posted by: Sarah Barracuda on November 17, 2008 at 5:45 PM | PERMALINK
Conservative Intellectual is an oxymoron
Jonah Goldberg is considered a conservative intellectual. QED.
Posted by: Gregory on November 17, 2008 at 5:50 PM | PERMALINK
i give them credit for adding a new term to the discussion: "k-lo's house of crazy." gets me every time...[starbursts, even....]
Posted by: dj spellchecka on November 17, 2008 at 5:56 PM | PERMALINK
"I am really and truly frightened by the collapse of support for the Republican Party by the young and the educated,"
and by railing against education and intelligence, and idolizing vacuous dolts for a generation, as well as abusing the young with senseless wars and manipulation of people's private lives Frum expected republicans to win support from exactly whom other than the demented sickos of the far out right wing whack pack extremists?
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Posted by: pluege on November 17, 2008 at 7:41 PM | PERMALINK
Remember why the National Review was started--Buckley did not want to give equal rights to blacks. That would, somehow take away rights from hin abd other extremely rich white people.
Yes, you can look it up.
And one only need to look at their terror about gays being able to enter into a contract called marriage to see that their bigotry and fear continue.
The national review and the conservative "movement" have always been contemptible.
Posted by: Mark on November 18, 2008 at 12:53 AM | PERMALINK