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December 7, 2008

A RETURN TO INSTITUTIONAL NORMALCY.... This might look like Senate Democrats snubbing Joe Biden, but it's really just a sensible return to what used to be a healthy respect for separation of powers.

In a move to reassert Congressional independence at the start of the new presidential administration, the vice president will be barred from joining weekly internal Senate deliberations, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said in an interview with the Las Vegas Sun.

Reid's decision to exclude Vice President-elect Joe Biden from the Senate arena where he spent most of his adult life is intended to restore constitutional checks and balances that tilted heavily toward the executive branch during the Bush presidency. [...]

"[Biden] can come by once and a while, but he's not going to sit in on our lunches," Reid said. "He's not a senator. He's the vice president."

As it turns out, Reid and the Democratic caucus are not at all at odds with Biden over the decision. A spokesperson for the vice president-elect said, "Vice President-elect Biden had no intention of continuing the practice started by Vice President Cheney of regularly attending internal legislative branch meetings -- he firmly believes in restoring the Office of the Vice President to its historical role. He and Senator Reid see eye to eye on this."

Were it not for the last eight years, this wouldn't be newsworthy at all. Indeed, it'd be entirely normal. For generations, administrations have tried to exert influence over the Senate by inserting the Vice President into his caucus' affairs, ostensibly as a de facto member of the chamber. And for generations, senators have pushed back, citing the separation of powers and the need for checks and balances.

Over the last eight years, the model has been turned on its head. Whereas every V.P. has tried to exert undue influence over the Senate, the Republicans of the Bush era are the first to actually accede to an administration's demands. Cheney attended the weekly Senate Republican strategy luncheons, and effectively issued marching orders to members. Lacking institutional independence, a sense of pride, and respect for our constitutional traditions, the GOP caucus, with no obvious debate, effectively let Cheney become part of the Senate Republican leadership.

Rutgers University Professor Ross Baker, an expert on Congress, said, "Cheney would come in there and try to force discipline on the Republican senators.... He was the Bigfoot that came into those meetings. If someone got out of line, he would put a thumb in their eyes. It's something I think people will puzzle over for a long time -- how passive the Republicans were, and how easily led they were by the Republican White House."

It's unlikely to happen again.

Steve Benen 9:30 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (16)
 
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"...the Republicans of the Bush era are the first to actually accede to an administration's demands..." Fixed.
So why did the current Democrats, including Reid, Biden and Obama allow it to happen the last two years? What am I missing?

Posted by: Wayne on December 7, 2008 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK

"...the Republicans (and the Democrats) of the Bush era are the first to actually accede to an administration's demands..." Now Fixed.

Posted by: Wayne on December 7, 2008 at 10:03 AM | PERMALINK

What are you two talking about? Cheney met with the REPUBLICAN caucus. How were the Democrats supposed to stop that?

Posted by: bk on December 7, 2008 at 10:31 AM | PERMALINK

"It's something I think people will puzzle over for a long time -- how passive the Republicans were, and how easily led they were by the Republican White House."

If you consider that these "Republicans" consider themselves part of a "movement" and worship atthe same Church of the Dear Leader that their German forbears did, it makes perfect sense that they would see their job as carrying out The Leader's orders. Which is what they did.

Posted by: TCinLA on December 7, 2008 at 10:45 AM | PERMALINK

but i thought the vp – like a quantum particle – existed somewhere between executive and legislative, while existing in both simultaneously.

seriously, i was rather pissed off at the way this was covered: as a slap at joe biden himself, rather than a slap at the cheney view of vice presidential powers.

Posted by: mellowjohn on December 7, 2008 at 10:48 AM | PERMALINK

I agree with MellowJohn. This has been described as some sort of pre-administration struggle with Biden, when it's actually the way things were in the real world pre-Bush 43.

Posted by: Charity on December 7, 2008 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK

Well, it is unlikely to happen again under Democratic leadership. The GOP hasn't exactly been able to learn lessons of history--they just associate being in power as something to try again, thus the love for Newt lately.

Another GOP legislature and GOP presidency would probably have the leadership begging the VP to come to their lunches and keep them in line. Just like the good old days!

Posted by: tess on December 7, 2008 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

Even though I completely agree with the decision, it's interesting that Reid took very quick action here, even before Biden has been sworn in as VP. When it came to quickly doing something about a Senator caucusing with the Democrats who openly campaigned for the Republicans while denigrating the patriotism of the President-elect, Reid just sat there with his thumbs up his ass, mustering no more than a feeble "tut-tut."

Posted by: bluestatedon on December 7, 2008 at 11:16 AM | PERMALINK

"It's unlikely to happen again."

Whew! That's a relief!

Posted by: joey giraud on December 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM | PERMALINK

"Rutgers University Professor Ross Baker, an expert on Congress, said, "Cheney would come in there and try to force discipline on the Republican senators.... He was the Bigfoot that came into those meetings. If someone got out of line, he would put a thumb in their eyes. It's something I think people will puzzle over for a long time -- how passive the Republicans were, and how easily led they were by the Republican White House."

No puzzle. This is exactly how sheep behave. What a surprise!

Posted by: impeachcheneythenbush on December 7, 2008 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK

"...It's something I think people will puzzle over for a long time -- how passive the Republicans were, and how easily led they were by the Republican White House."

Nah, I understand Republicans are easily led by someone in power - a Decider as it were. It is their nature, they are authoritarians.

I puzzle over why the Democrats were passive and easily led by a Republican White House.

Posted by: Wapiti on December 7, 2008 at 11:56 AM | PERMALINK

"Vice President-elect Biden had no intention of continuing the practice started by Vice President Cheney ... he firmly believes in restoring the Office of the Vice President to its historical role. He and Senator Reid see eye to eye on this."

Like rubbing sleep out of your eyes after an 8 year nightmare.

Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on December 7, 2008 at 12:25 PM | PERMALINK

The last chapter of Robert Caro's Master of the Senate describes LBJ's attempt in 1960 to lead the Democratic Senate Caucus as Vice President and how he was rebuffed by the Democratic senators, including Al Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd.

Posted by: hudibrastic on December 7, 2008 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK

Wait I'm confused. I thought the Vice President is in charge of the U.S. Senate so if Biden wanted to he could really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes?

Posted by: Jacob on December 7, 2008 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

It's unlikely to happen again.

. . .assuming we never elect another Republican president.

Posted by: EarBucket on December 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM | PERMALINK

The Veep is not over the senate, however, the Veep can come in as a tie-breaker

Posted by: annjell on December 8, 2008 at 3:02 AM | PERMALINK




 

 
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