January 8, 2009
WHAT CHENEY CONSIDERS AN 'URBAN LEGEND'.... After spectacular mendacity for eight years, it stands to reason that Dick Cheney would want to go out on a ridiculous note.
Vice President Dick Cheney said Wednesday that his image has gotten a bad rap in the press and that he is in fact "a warm, lovable sort."
Cheney conceded in an interview with CBS radio that he sometimes expresses himself "rather forcefully toward some of my compatriots, like Pat Leahy from Vermont" but dismissed as a caricature the idea that he is a "Darth Vader-type personality."
"I think all of that's been pretty dramatically overdone," the vice president said. "I'm actually a warm, lovable sort."
Cheney also insisted that his influence within the Bush administration was overstated throughout the past eight years. "The notion that somehow I was pulling strings or making presidential-level decisions. I was not," he said.
"There was never any question about who was in charge. It was George Bush. And that's the way we operated. This whole notion that somehow I exceeded my authority here, was usurping his authority, is simply not true. It's an urban legend, never happened."
I suppose the standards for a "warm, lovable sort" are inherently subjective. I find Cheney's slow, mechanical breathing kind of creepy, and his ability to crush tracheas with his mind unsettling, but that's me.
But the notion of Cheney exceeding his authority as vice president is less open to debate. Satyam Khanna runs down some of The Angler's more obvious abuse-of-power examples.
—Steve Benen 4:50 PM
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Vlad the Impaler is a national hero in Romania, so what do we really know?
Posted by: Speed on January 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK
I suppose we could cite everything from his scribbled Valerie Plame "fair game" notes to his utterly insane assertion he wouldn't be governed by any law because he wasn't actually part of the executive branch.
But really, isn't shooting a man in the face and then making his victim apologize for the subsequent bad press all you need to know?
Posted by: anonymiss on January 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM | PERMALINK
The Daily Show tonight - must see TV!
Posted by: Salt Water Sound on January 8, 2009 at 4:54 PM | PERMALINK
I find Cheney's slow, mechanical breathing kind of creepy, and his ability to crush tracheas with his mind unsettling, but that's me.
Well, yeah...but it was the stuff about not casting a shadow in full daylight and not having a reflection when he walks in front of a mirror that weirded me out the most.
Posted by: Jennifer on January 8, 2009 at 4:57 PM | PERMALINK
The Daily Show tonight - must see TV!
Why, is it Dana Perino tonight?
"There was never any question about who was in charge. - Cheney
You know he looks just like an old stockbroker I had, and he used to say the same thing everytime an investment tanked. What a coincidence.
Posted by: Danp on January 8, 2009 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK
Mr Cheney is delusional to the value of infinity, and has been expecting a spectacular, last minute Hail Mary Pass save for the Bush/Cheney presidency.
Now that even he must concede it's been a failure that will resound through history, he's busy dialing back on his responsibility.
Let's help him. Ages ago, before he decided to invade Iraq and helped Bicycle Boy go along with that plan, Cheney invited Victor Davis Hanson, another delusionist of the first order, for a dinner together with the VP and the VP's aides.
The theme of the dinner, was to "investigate" how unpopular decisions had been vindicated by history -- and Hanson got to expound forcefully to an eager eared Cheney.
Remember Bicycle Boy's many references to how "history would look differently upon his accomplishments"? That's the doggie-bag take-out from the Cheney/Hanson last supper.
Cheney should be behind bars, in an undisclosed location. No enemy of the US has ever caused greater damage to US interests, inside and outside the nation.
Posted by: SteinL on January 8, 2009 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK
Dart Vader wasn't really in control either. He took orders from the Emperor and Admiral Tarkin.
He may have a point about the comparison being inapt, though, since in the end, Vader was compassionate.
But for funsies, I can imagine this as a conversation with Dick Cheney:
COMMANDER: She'll die before she tells you anything.
VADER: Leave that to me. Send a distress signal and then inform the senate that all aboard were killed!
Nerds!
Posted by: doubtful on January 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM | PERMALINK
"There was never any question about who was in charge. It was George Bush."
Even Cheney's pointing fingers.
Posted by: wishIwuz2 on January 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM | PERMALINK
Give me a fucking break. That's all I have to say about this bullshit. What a joke.
Posted by: KevoTron on January 8, 2009 at 5:05 PM | PERMALINK
Sociopaths lie with ease.
Posted by: hells littlest angel on January 8, 2009 at 5:06 PM | PERMALINK
"It's an urban legend..."
I heard that if you are in a candle-lit room and say his name thirteen times into a mirror, Dick Cheney will appear in the mirror and claw your eyes out.
Posted by: grape_crush on January 8, 2009 at 5:15 PM | PERMALINK
Yeah, a warm lovable sort who said "Fuck yourself" to Senator Leahy. Then dextronuts rallied to Cheney's defense despite their posturing on clean living and Christian sobriety. But what maybe takes the cake is the oft forgotten way his office weaseled around whether he actually said it, combined with previous hypocritical jabs at Kerry for using the same word.
From http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3699-2004Jun24.html:
Cheney's office did not deny that the phrase was uttered. His spokesman, Kevin S. Kellems, would say only that this language is not typical of the vice presidential vocabulary. "Reserving the right to revise and extend my remarks, that doesn't sound like language the vice president would use," Kellems said, "but there was a frank exchange of views."
Gleeful Democrats pointed out that the White House has not always been so forgiving of obscenity. In December, Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry was quoted using the same word in describing Bush's Iraq policy as botched. The president's chief of staff reacted with indignation.
"That's beneath John Kerry," Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. said. "I'm very disappointed that he would use that kind of language. I'm hoping that he's apologizing at least to himself, because that's not the John Kerry that I know."
Posted by: Neil B (B for "Baal"!) on January 8, 2009 at 5:18 PM | PERMALINK
Cheney wasnt a strong Veep, Bush was a weak president!
Posted by: Akinola on January 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM | PERMALINK
Dick Cheney is an old legend, unless we can come up with some indictments, hopefully followed by conviction, confiscation of the fortune he stole from us (taxpayers that is, the ones who really comprise the U.S. Government), and, in the best world, execution as a traitor.
As the DLCers say, let's concentrate on the future. None of these guys are too bright or very creative; they take the past and reapply it. Cheney merely used what he learned as an office boy in the Nixon administration.
How's this: Rahm Emmanuel, Dick Cheney wannabe for the new regime?
Posted by: ericfree on January 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM | PERMALINK
Hmmm - ericfree, is Rahm really that awful (not counting "temperament" but more objective issue.)?
Posted by: Neil B ☼ on January 8, 2009 at 5:35 PM | PERMALINK
Come on! Cheney was the worst VP in the history of the US.
He tried to create a completely new and unconstitutional office for himself...and he pretty much succeeded! http://tv1.com/playlists/116
Posted by: Nick P on January 8, 2009 at 5:36 PM | PERMALINK
Cheney said: "I'm actually a warm, lovable sort."
Perhaps so. Hitler was said to be a very charming fellow. And a great dancer.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on January 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM | PERMALINK
This would be a lot more believable if he hadn't been eating a puppy at the time.
Posted by: Dan on January 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM | PERMALINK
Am I the only one who thinks Cheney's smile makes him look a lot like Dr. Strangelove?
Posted by: RKL on January 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM | PERMALINK
Dick Cheney, as warm and cuddly as a porcupine. Well, maybe that's not true. Porcupines are warm blooded.
Posted by: fostert on January 8, 2009 at 6:47 PM | PERMALINK
@ Akinola
To execute Cheney is to become Cheney. Ghandi said it best: "Be the change you want to see in the world."
Posted by: Latitude on January 8, 2009 at 7:26 PM | PERMALINK
Ooops. That last comment should have been directed to ericfree.
Posted by: Latitude on January 8, 2009 at 7:32 PM | PERMALINK
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the incident where Cheney shot a friend in the face with a shotgun, then made him apologize for being in the way.
Those dark Sith powers . . . .
Posted by: Daniel Kim on January 8, 2009 at 10:29 PM | PERMALINK
Cheney thinks he has "plausible deniability" -- looks like all his secretive behavior is paying off.
Now that Bush is toast, might as well give him credit for all the great stuff he's done. Makes him look good to the right wingnuts. It doesn't matter what 'thinking' people's impression of him is.
We see 'finger pointing', and wing nuts see 'giving credit' Everybody is happy.
Posted by: bruno on January 8, 2009 at 10:35 PM | PERMALINK
The whole point of pulling the strings is that you avoid taking responsibility for the results. Why would Cheney suddenly confess? It'd be like a magician showing you how a trick is done.
Posted by: chrenson on January 9, 2009 at 8:08 AM | PERMALINK
This person is symbolic of what is so wrong with this thing we call a democracy. People of wealth and influence pay very good money to other people to make sure he is in the White House in positions of influence. Those people also pay for the privilege of keeping the MSM away from him so he is never questioned on his intentions or even his qualifications. He destroys our country, our security, and our integrity for the highest bidder who happens to be oil interests and war profiteers. He is still smiling so somehow he or his kind will still be the White House still raping and pillaging this country. De-centralize this beast we call America and maybe with the big prize gone, we may get back our democracy.
Posted by: SteveA on January 9, 2009 at 9:32 AM | PERMALINK
"Vice President Dick Cheney said Wednesday that his image has gotten a bad rap in the press and that he is in fact "a warm, lovable sort." "
Just don't feed him after midnight, or expose him to water.
Posted by: 2Manchu on January 9, 2009 at 9:33 AM | PERMALINK